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Title: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: Vamps on 24 November 2014, 19:24:39
I understand this can be done, anyone advise on an app or whatever that I can use, please.

Any responses need to be clear and not Geeky thanks....... ;) ;) :D
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 November 2014, 19:28:43
iPhone is built in to iCloud.

Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: Vamps on 24 November 2014, 19:31:31
iPhone is built in to iCloud.


And.....??? ::)  Oh and my phone is an htc miss vamps has iphone.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: The Sheriff on 24 November 2014, 19:36:54
Why don't you just say that you want to track someone else's mobile phone? It's clearer that way.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 November 2014, 19:38:57
iPhone is built in to iCloud.


And.....??? ::)  Oh and my phone is an htc miss vamps has iphone.
Android will have its own apps.

iPhone, under settings, iCloud is a Find my Phone setting.  To "find" it, log into iCloud via a browser, and pick the Find My Phone, and it will show you where the phone is, and allow you to make it make a noise (to help to locate a misplaced phone) or wipe it (to protect data from a stolen handset).
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: Vamps on 24 November 2014, 19:39:10
Why don't you just say that you want to track someone else's mobile phone? It's clearer that way.

OK, what he said.......... :D :D

Someone did tell me a few weeks ago but I understood very little, just nodded agreement in what seemed the right moments.............. :D :D
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: The Sheriff on 24 November 2014, 19:39:59
iPhone is built in to iCloud.


And.....??? ::)  Oh and my phone is an htc miss vamps has iphone.
Android will have its own apps.

iPhone, under settings, iCloud is a Find my Phone setting.  To "find" it, log into iCloud via a browser, and pick the Find My Phone, and it will show you where the phone is, and allow you to make it make a noise (to help to locate a misplaced phone) or wipe it (to protect data from a stolen handset).
Nah. He wants to stalk check his little girl is ok. ;D
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 November 2014, 19:41:49
iPhone is built in to iCloud.


And.....??? ::)  Oh and my phone is an htc miss vamps has iphone.
Android will have its own apps.

iPhone, under settings, iCloud is a Find my Phone setting.  To "find" it, log into iCloud via a browser, and pick the Find My Phone, and it will show you where the phone is, and allow you to make it make a noise (to help to locate a misplaced phone) or wipe it (to protect data from a stolen handset).
Nah. He wants to stalk check his little girl is ok. ;D
I use Find My Phone to track Mrs TB's progress coming home on a Friday lunchtime so I can kick the milkmaid out and look busy get the oven preheated for lunch.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: The Sheriff on 24 November 2014, 19:43:28
I have lookout, which will tell me the location of my device. If I were to log in to my wifes account, I guess it would tell me where her phone is  :-\
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: Vamps on 24 November 2014, 20:20:49
I have lookout, which will tell me the location of my device. If I were to log in to my wifes account, I guess it would tell me where her phone is  :-\

Excellent Steve...... :y :y Downloaded and onto my phone, protects all sorts, just logged on with my lap top and it found my phone for me........... :y :y

Can also lock and Screa, should be good if its stolen or lost.... :D :D

Now, how do I set this up on Miss Vamps Iphone without her knowing?......... :-X :-X
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: The Sheriff on 24 November 2014, 20:24:45
I have lookout, which will tell me the location of my device. If I were to log in to my wifes account, I guess it would tell me where her phone is  :-\

Excellent Steve...... :y :y Downloaded and onto my phone, protects all sorts, just logged on with my lap top and it found my phone for me........... :y :y

Can also lock and Screa, should be good if its stolen or lost.... :D :D

Now, how do I set this up on Miss Vamps Iphone without her knowing?......... :-X :-X
Easy. Drug her, download it on to her iphone and then log in on your phone with her account details. If you're gonna be a stalker, might as well do it properly.  ;D
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: Vamps on 24 November 2014, 20:41:19
I have lookout, which will tell me the location of my device. If I were to log in to my wifes account, I guess it would tell me where her phone is  :-\

Excellent Steve...... :y :y Downloaded and onto my phone, protects all sorts, just logged on with my lap top and it found my phone for me........... :y :y

Can also lock and Screa, should be good if its stolen or lost.... :D :D

Now, how do I set this up on Miss Vamps Iphone without her knowing?......... :-X :-X
Easy. Drug her, download it on to her iphone and then log in on your phone with her account details. If you're gonna be a stalker, might as well do it properly.  ;D

You are a card Steve............. :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 November 2014, 20:47:16
I have lookout, which will tell me the location of my device. If I were to log in to my wifes account, I guess it would tell me where her phone is  :-\

Excellent Steve...... :y :y Downloaded and onto my phone, protects all sorts, just logged on with my lap top and it found my phone for me........... :y :y

Can also lock and Screa, should be good if its stolen or lost.... :D :D

Now, how do I set this up on Miss Vamps Iphone without her knowing?......... :-X :-X
She's a teenager, of course she'll be smarter than you.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: Vamps on 24 November 2014, 20:59:33
I have lookout, which will tell me the location of my device. If I were to log in to my wifes account, I guess it would tell me where her phone is  :-\

Excellent Steve...... :y :y Downloaded and onto my phone, protects all sorts, just logged on with my lap top and it found my phone for me........... :y :y

Can also lock and Screa, should be good if its stolen or lost.... :D :D

Now, how do I set this up on Miss Vamps Iphone without her knowing?......... :-X :-X
She's a teenager, of course she'll be smarter than you.

Absolutely, particularly when it comes to new technology.......... ::) ::) :-[
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: henryd on 24 November 2014, 22:44:22
I have lookout, which will tell me the location of my device. If I were to log in to my wifes account, I guess it would tell me where her phone is  :-\

Excellent Steve...... :y :y Downloaded and onto my phone, protects all sorts, just logged on with my lap top and it found my phone for me........... :y :y

Can also lock and Screa, should be good if its stolen or lost.... :D :D

Now, how do I set this up on Miss Vamps Iphone without her knowing?......... :-X :-X
She's a teenager, of course she'll be smarter than you.

Absolutely, particularly when it comes to new technology.......... ::) ::) :-[

If she gets wise and turns the phone off you are fooked ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: Vamps on 24 November 2014, 23:02:21
I have lookout, which will tell me the location of my device. If I were to log in to my wifes account, I guess it would tell me where her phone is  :-\

Excellent Steve...... :y :y Downloaded and onto my phone, protects all sorts, just logged on with my lap top and it found my phone for me........... :y :y

Can also lock and Screa, should be good if its stolen or lost.... :D :D

Now, how do I set this up on Miss Vamps Iphone without her knowing?......... :-X :-X
She's a teenager, of course she'll be smarter than you.

Absolutely, particularly when it comes to new technology.......... ::) ::) :-[

If she gets wise and turns the phone off you are fooked ;)

Oh she is wise, seems her GPRS is switched off, as is her boyfriends, she has her phone locked and it never leaves her side......... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: aaronjb on 25 November 2014, 09:53:34
Ankle monitor?

(http://img.koreatimes.co.kr/upload/news/brace_200.jpg)

Might as well go the whole hog ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 25 November 2014, 12:39:12
You'll be asking about chastity belts next!  :o  ;D   You could get yourself a shotgun....  ;)  ::)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: chrisgixer on 25 November 2014, 12:47:28
Didn't think it worked across platforms?
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 25 November 2014, 14:20:54
The question you should be asking is do you really want to know where she is, and why?

I ask, because if you're trying to justify it as a personal safety issue, then you really shouldn't be tracking her. If you know where she is, then you'll next want to know who she was with and what she's doing.

The fact that her phone is 'hidden' speaks volumes imho...

If you're genuinely concerned, you need to simply trust her until demonstrated otherwise...
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: Gaffers on 25 November 2014, 15:43:54
If you know where to look you can see exactly where the phone has been, updated every few seconds, including details of local WiFi networks.

The data is collected and harvested by Apple usually without the user's direct knowledge (hidden in the T's and C's)

Any half decent forensic tool can extract the info and display it on google maps :y
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 25 November 2014, 15:52:48
Tell her the truth, you worry about her and in an emergency it would help locate her, also if her phone gets stolen then it may help retrieve it.  Works both ways if you took ill wouldn't she want to locate you asap.  :y
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: Gaffers on 25 November 2014, 15:56:31
Just reading in to the detail of the requirements, without her permission you would be in breach of the Misuse of Computers Act and probably the Communciations Act too.

However, if you were to give her a new phone with something installed on it to monitor her you would only be breaking the latter law  ;D

A 4 number pin takes just a few minutes to brute force using the right tools if you were to ever get your hands on it, but then you are in breach of the former law again  ::)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 25 November 2014, 16:47:13
Just reading in to the detail of the requirements, without her permission you would be in breach of the Misuse of Computers Act and probably the Communciations Act too.

However, if you were to give her a new phone with something installed on it to monitor her you would only be breaking the latter law  ;D

A 4 number pin takes just a few minutes to brute force using the right tools if you were to ever get your hands on it, but then you are in breach of the former law again  ::)
Which given the OPs field of work, he should be only too well aware of :-\
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 November 2014, 18:35:34
If you know where to look you can see exactly where the phone has been, updated every few seconds, including details of local WiFi networks.

The data is collected and harvested by Apple usually without the user's direct knowledge (hidden in the T's and C's)

Any half decent forensic tool can extract the info and display it on google maps :y
Only with physical access to the device, so can't use as a "where is it now", only a "where has it been". Not sure what Vamps is after, but I suspect something more real time...  ...but as chrisgixer suggests, this may cause more issues than it solves, and you can bet she is more astute than that if she doesn't want to be tracked.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: The Sheriff on 25 November 2014, 18:59:01
http://www.parents.com/parenting/technology/best-apps-for-paranoid-parents/
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: chrisgixer on 25 November 2014, 21:21:13
If you know where to look you can see exactly where the phone has been, updated every few seconds, including details of local WiFi networks.

The data is collected and harvested by Apple usually without the user's direct knowledge (hidden in the T's and C's)

Any half decent forensic tool can extract the info and display it on google maps :y
Tap Settings/privacy(no really)/location services/(scroll down to bottom)system services/(scroll down to before product improvement)frequent locations /scroll down to history. All recent locations are there.

Gives last month or so. But needs hands on access. Settings are on by default.


Nothing to hide me. ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: Vamps on 25 November 2014, 23:18:45
You'll be asking about chastity belts next!  :o  ;D   You could get yourself a shotgun....  ;)  ::)

No need, he is a canny lad really, he, his mother and I have an 'understanding' and I do trust her, was just wondering, as I played with my new phone that has 'apps' on it........ :D :D :D
Title: Re: Mobile Phone tracking?
Post by: Gaffers on 26 November 2014, 15:49:50
If you know where to look you can see exactly where the phone has been, updated every few seconds, including details of local WiFi networks.

The data is collected and harvested by Apple usually without the user's direct knowledge (hidden in the T's and C's)

Any half decent forensic tool can extract the info and display it on google maps :y
Tap Settings/privacy(no really)/location services/(scroll down to bottom)system services/(scroll down to before product improvement)frequent locations /scroll down to history. All recent locations are there.

Gives last month or so. But needs hands on access. Settings are on by default.


Nothing to hide me. ;)

There is a CSV file, only accessible on the local filesystem with much more than that.  In effect, every iPhone 3S and older is a WiFi pineapple.  A fact which helps me justify to any over enthusiastic copper using a real one purposefully at home:

Mr Plod: You have a WiFi pineapple?
Me: Yes
Mr Plod: Do you know that it is illegal?
Me: It isn't.
Mr Plod: According to the Communications Act...blah blah blah
Me: Do you own an iPhone?
Mr Plod: Yes
Me: in which case you are breaking the law too

IIRC, the file keeps several months worth of data until it gets too big and then it overwrites itself :y