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Title: DIY fanatics
Post by: TheBoy on 21 February 2021, 12:50:08
Ideally, what I need is one of those plastic crates used a lot in warehousing etc.  But as I can't find one of a suitable size, looks like I need to make something.

Will probably use a wooden frame with hardboard sides, to try to keep the weight down, unless anybody has better ideas?


Now, because what it carries is liable to be very dirty and very wet, and it will get chucked on the back seat of the car or in the boot, I wanted to seal it, so was looking for a paint that wouldn't rub off too easily, and would hold make it completely waterproof and now able to leak.


Unless somebody knows where I can get a fairly sturdy plastic crate with internal dimensions of 620mm x 480mm and 220-250mm high ?  The dimensions can be slightly bigger, obviously, but would like to keep the size sensible.
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 February 2021, 13:09:15
Ask at Waitrose next time you're there... They might have a robust stacking crate going spare :-\
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 February 2021, 13:32:09
Ideally, what I need is one of those plastic crates used a lot in warehousing etc.  But as I can't find one of a suitable size, looks like I need to make something.

Will probably use a wooden frame with hardboard sides, to try to keep the weight down, unless anybody has better ideas?


Now, because what it carries is liable to be very dirty and very wet, and it will get chucked on the back seat of the car or in the boot, I wanted to seal it, so was looking for a paint that wouldn't rub off too easily, and would hold make it completely waterproof and now able to leak.


Unless somebody knows where I can get a fairly sturdy plastic crate with internal dimensions of 620mm x 480mm and 220-250mm high ?  The dimensions can be slightly bigger, obviously, but would like to keep the size sensible.

What?
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 21 February 2021, 13:38:47
If you make a wooden crate, line it with pond liner to make it waterproof. I did it with the Tortoise,s indoor home and its perfect.
Obviously waterproof but also  very tough. Not cheap though.
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: TheBoy on 21 February 2021, 14:15:36
If you make a wooden crate, line it with pond liner to make it waterproof. I did it with the Tortoise,s indoor home and its perfect.
Obviously waterproof but also  very tough. Not cheap though.
I was hoping to avoid lining, as I don't want to make it too heavy.
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: TheBoy on 21 February 2021, 14:15:53
What?
Stuff.
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: STEMO on 21 February 2021, 14:17:16
What?
Stuff.
Dirty and wet stuff.
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: STEMO on 21 February 2021, 14:21:58
Wickets have this one, or a bigger one:

https://www.wickes.co.uk/Really-Useful-Clear-Storage-Box---84L/p/143495#
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: Nick W on 21 February 2021, 14:26:39
As the size you want is slightly bigger than the readily available crates, I think you will have to build one.


Have you considered welding a frame out of small, thin angle and panelling in plastic? Sikflex the joints and you're done; no painting required. Lighter than wood, and not as critical for the joints. Which is a real plus if your woodwork is as bad as mine :y


The size angle to use will depend on the weight, but 1.5mm thick makes good car battery trays.
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: STEMO on 21 February 2021, 14:28:30
This one is very close to your size requirements

https://www.ryman.co.uk/really-useful-nestable-storage-box-62-litre-pack-of-3?istCompanyId=724692e0-2f99-4874-9565-6fc82074fe86&istFeedId=62fcf5e7-7380-40af-a2f8-d6441f27c300&istItemId=wrxarplar&istBid=tztx&gclid=Cj0KCQiApsiBBhCKARIsAN8o_4ibnXycW4XR1_EPO_mDYxbbuCcU96zmW2c8PKameK2LA84c5ke_r2waAgunEALw_wcB
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: dave the builder on 21 February 2021, 14:52:40
 polypropylene goes very brittle and splits
so don't put many body parts in them ,blood is hard to remove from car seats  :D
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: TheBoy on 21 February 2021, 15:53:14
I don't think the "Really Useful" ones are quite robust enough - she buys smaller ones for her craft shite, and after a short amount of time, they flex and split.  Hence I was looking at the Euro containers such as https://plasticboxwarehouse.co.uk/product/87l-euro-stacking-container-800l-x-600w-x-235h-mm/ but thats just a little too large, making in inconvenient and a bit bulky.

I do have one that is so close, marked as 700x500 (and way too tall, but I could cut that down), but that 500 isn't quite enough, as the internal size is about 475 :(


Hence the idea of making one.


Nick W, probably seems a daft question, but where would I get the plastic from?.  Weight wise, it needs to carry around 7-8kg, so a bit less than a battery.
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: TheBoy on 21 February 2021, 15:54:37
Another option considered was to buy 2 smaller euro type crates, and cut and join to make 2, but suspect I'll never get a good strong join between them.
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 February 2021, 16:03:51
Do you have a Scania service centre nearby?
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: Nick W on 21 February 2021, 16:19:17

Nick W, probably seems a daft question, but where would I get the plastic from?.  Weight wise, it needs to carry around 7-8kg, so a bit less than a battery.


A better question would be which plastic? Acrylic, polycarbonate, foamex, aluminium composite, there's loads. However, that's not much weight, so polycarbonate would be a reasonable choice; it's cheap, readily available, easily formed and glued(that's a problem with lots of plastics) and strong enough as it's used for shields, roof panels, glazing etc. You can buy it and acrylic sheet at B&Q, Wickes etc
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 21 February 2021, 16:38:17
https://www.homebase.co.uk/our-range/storage-and-home/home-storage-and-shelving/storage-containers/storage-boxes?facets=BrandName%3DReally%20Useful%20Storage
         
48L      600 x 400 x 350    530 x 325 x 330    
         
50L      710 x 440 x 230    605 x 370 x 200    
64L     710 x 440 x 310    605 x 370 x 280    
84L      710 x 440 x 380    605 x 370 x 355    

I have bought loads of these in the last 15 months, from 3 litres through 9. 12 and up to the ones listed, extremely strong. :y :y

Just seen TB early post about these not being strong enough..... sorry
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: Viral_Jim on 22 February 2021, 16:58:50
So are the supermarket delivery 'bail arm' crates too small as they seem perfect for your requirements? I had my parents obtain them at a rate of about one a week off their local delivery guy (arithmetic is not his strong suit.  :)).

One big home delivery order should mean you can retain one FOC  :y
Title: Re: DIY fanatics
Post by: TheBoy on 22 February 2021, 17:22:02
So are the supermarket delivery 'bail arm' crates too small as they seem perfect for your requirements? I had my parents obtain them at a rate of about one a week off their local delivery guy (arithmetic is not his strong suit.  :)).

One big home delivery order should mean you can retain one FOC  :y
I think they usually use 600x400x300 ones. No need to ask how I know :P