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Title: Drink driving
Post by: LFF64 on 04 March 2016, 12:06:59
Swmbo works with at mates house with her and the neighbour there drink drives he has already been done in the past for it by the way a couple of weeks back they reported him to the police to say he was driving his car , basically he was caught driving and he and the car were taken home so all good there but since then he has been seen driving while drunk so they reported him again only to be told unless he has been seen drinking they can not do anything more until he goes to court
So does that mean he can carry on driving until he has the licence taken away ??
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 04 March 2016, 13:10:41
Dangleberrys!!!!!  >:( >:( >:(

He's still allowed to drive until his court hearing in which he'll get banned, but there is nothing stopping plod pulling him again in the mean time if he's still driving whilst P1$$ed.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: STEMO on 04 March 2016, 15:21:32
I believe, if he pleads not guilty at his first court appearance, his licence will be suspended until the case is heard.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 March 2016, 16:22:35
I believe, if he pleads not guilty at his first court appearance, his licence will be suspended until the case is heard.

How does this work if he is four times over the drink drive limit?
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 04 March 2016, 16:33:10
I believe, if he pleads not guilty at his first court appearance, his licence will be suspended until the case is heard.

How does this work if he is four times over the drink drive limit?

Depends what mood the judge is in  ::) ::) ::) however in the cases I've had they will get an intrim ban.

BUT one female who I stopped at 3.30pm picking her 5yr old daughter up from school, blew 130, was bailed from when I stopped her Sept 2014 to Jan 2016 when her case was heard. Banned from driving for 2 1/2 years and has to go on a rehabilitation programme.  ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: LFF64 on 04 March 2016, 20:10:10
Seems a crazy system surely if he has been caught he shouldn't be allowed to drive again until he has been to court and only allowed to drive if for some reason the court let him off the bloke is apparently an alcoholic he drives to the shop parks up in lay-bys drinks in the car and then drives home he lives out in the middle of nowhere which is probably why he gets away with it seems totally wrong to me to let him drive if he has been caught  >:(
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: LFF64 on 04 March 2016, 20:13:39
I just read my first post it should have read he was caught drink driving  not just driving his car
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 04 March 2016, 20:24:27
LFF64, Your right, however until they've been to court innocent until proven guilty.

Depending on the specific details of the case representations can be made by the prosecution and intrim bans put in place i.e. previous convictions for such, rtc's resulting in death / life changing circs, medical reports.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 04 March 2016, 20:27:43
The girl i was on about before STILL drives & is a raging alcoholic, been trying to  catch her at it for the past 2 months since the trial but due to numbers I'm never on the same beat. She'll come again, hopefully before she causes damage to someone else  ::)
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 04 March 2016, 20:54:12
The girl i was on about before STILL drives & is a raging alcoholic, been trying to  catch her at it for the past 2 months since the trial but due to numbers I'm never on the same beat. She'll come again, hopefully before she causes damage to someone else  ::)
As frustrating as I am sure that is, what would catching her again do? Especially if you're specifically targeting them as an individual :-\

Not condoning her behaviour in any shape, but legally, is it better for her to be caught bang to rights following a serious rtc than risk CPS throwing it out and a misconduct charge for victimisation :-\
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 04 March 2016, 21:05:26
Of course we target them just as we target any disqual driver / non insured etc...

If they're actually doing it still (and my homework tells me this) how can it be seen as victimisation. I've stopped people for no insurance, seized their car, gave them the ticket. Few weeks later same fellow driving about still no insurance I pulls him and he played the 'you've just got it in for me' card. 'Yes' says I 'and until you get  insured I'll keep pulling you'.

He then complained & my Inspector laughed  ;D ;D ;D

With her she (could) loosely put  ::) end up inside. I have no qualms about stopping her, (she was that bladdered she wouldn't recognise me anyway  ;D ;D ;D ) and we are lucky to have new supervision who WILL back us up.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: STEMO on 04 March 2016, 21:11:43
I've seen TVs programmes where cops actively go out to sit and wait for a banned driver to get in their car. It's called proactive policing.
If they were to wait until he killed someone before nicking him, I don't think the family of the victim would be too impressed.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 04 March 2016, 21:23:24
I've seen TVs programmes where cops actively go out to sit and wait for a banned driver to get in their car. It's called proactive policing.
If they were to wait until he killed someone before nicking him, I don't think the family of the victim would be too impressed.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: STEMO on 04 March 2016, 21:58:59
I've seen TVs programmes where cops actively go out to sit and wait for a banned driver to get in their car. It's called proactive policing.
If they were to wait until he killed someone before nicking him, I don't think the family of the victim would be too impressed.
Cat got yer tongue, lad?  ;D
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: hercules on 04 March 2016, 22:10:42
I've seen TVs programmes where cops actively go out to sit and wait for a banned driver to get in their car. It's called proactive policing.
If they were to wait until he killed someone before nicking him, I don't think the family of the victim would be too impressed.
Cat got yer tongue, lad?  ;D
hahaha il take it as  he took it the same as me and agreed with your proactive policing  :y
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 04 March 2016, 22:12:14
I've seen TVs programmes where cops actively go out to sit and wait for a banned driver to get in their car. It's called proactive policing.
If they were to wait until he killed someone before nicking him, I don't think the family of the victim would be too impressed.
Cat got yer tongue, lad?  ;D
Nah, obviously pressed enter rather than back :D

Targeted patrols/operations are one thing, (and effective too), just suggesting that it's a fine line.
The victim perspective is irrelevant,  as a pound bets ten that if the shoe were on the other foot then they would be playing the 'picking on me/haven't you got criminals to catch' approach...
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: STEMO on 04 March 2016, 22:15:24
I've seen TVs programmes where cops actively go out to sit and wait for a banned driver to get in their car. It's called proactive policing.
If they were to wait until he killed someone before nicking him, I don't think the family of the victim would be too impressed.
Cat got yer tongue, lad?  ;D
Nah, obviously pressed enter rather than back :D

Targeted patrols/operations are one thing, (and effective too), just suggesting that it's a fine line.
The victim perspective is irrelevant,  as a pound bets ten that if the shoe were on the other foot then they would be playing the 'picking on me/haven't you got criminals to catch' approach...
They are criminals.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: dbug on 04 March 2016, 23:36:38
The girl i was on about before STILL drives & is a raging alcoholic, been trying to  catch her at it for the past 2 months since the trial but due to numbers I'm never on the same beat. She'll come again, hopefully before she causes damage to someone else  ::)
As frustrating as I am sure that is, what would catching her again do? Especially if you're specifically targeting them as an individual :-\

Not condoning her behaviour in any shape, but legally, is it better for her to be caught bang to rights following a serious rtc than risk CPS throwing it out and a misconduct charge for victimisation :-\

Thats surely a bit of a stupid viewpoint - how would you feel if you or yours were the victims of a serious rtc in those circumstances?  Probably blame the police for not being proactive.  ::)


They are criminals.

Exactly  :y
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 04 March 2016, 23:44:05
I've seen TVs programmes where cops actively go out to sit and wait for a banned driver to get in their car. It's called proactive policing.
If they were to wait until he killed someone before nicking him, I don't think the family of the victim would be too impressed.
Cat got yer tongue, lad?  ;D
Nah, obviously pressed enter rather than back :D

Targeted patrols/operations are one thing, (and effective too), just suggesting that it's a fine line.
The victim perspective is irrelevant,  as a pound bets ten that if the shoe were on the other foot then they would be playing the 'picking on me/haven't you got criminals to catch' approach...
They are criminals.
That they are, but good luck telling them that...
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 04 March 2016, 23:57:01
The girl i was on about before STILL drives & is a raging alcoholic, been trying to  catch her at it for the past 2 months since the trial but due to numbers I'm never on the same beat. She'll come again, hopefully before she causes damage to someone else  ::)
As frustrating as I am sure that is, what would catching her again do? Especially if you're specifically targeting them as an individual :-\

Not condoning her behaviour in any shape, but legally, is it better for her to be caught bang to rights following a serious rtc than risk CPS throwing it out and a misconduct charge for victimisation :-\

Thats surely a bit of a stupid viewpoint - how would you feel if you or yours were the victims of a serious rtc in those circumstances?  Probably blame the police for not being proactive.  ::)
Not at all. Shit happens and life goes on... You either accept that or you don't. But why let that get in the way of a good argument ;D
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: Broomies Mate on 09 March 2016, 01:40:41
To Jason.

I take it you have had a marker placed on this prolific drink-drivers car, so any patrol will tug them?

Are you allowed to do that? and if so, I hope you have!  :y
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: biggriffin on 09 March 2016, 11:51:15
To Jason.

I take it you have had a marker placed on this prolific drink-drivers car, so any patrol will tug them?

Are you allowed to do that? and if so, I hope you have!  :y

Use to be called covert marks. A post it note with the reg no, etc on the wall in the crew room. It's now called targeted policing.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: LFF64 on 25 April 2016, 22:52:11
Oh well latest update on this is the bloke this was about has died , apparently the alcohol finished him off he was taken to hospital after I last posted about him .
 He was told he had major problems caused by the drinking and no way should he have been driving the hospital contacted dvla and he had his license revoked .
The police dropped the drink driving charges too a couple of weeks back
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: STEMO on 26 April 2016, 14:23:08
Oh well latest update on this is the bloke this was about has died , apparently the alcohol finished him off he was taken to hospital after I last posted about him .
 He was told he had major problems caused by the drinking and no way should he have been driving the hospital contacted dvla and he had his license revoked .
The police dropped the drink driving charges too a couple of weeks back
That was mighty large of the old bill, dropping the charges due to him dying.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 26 April 2016, 14:26:20
Pissed drivers should be banned for life.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: STEMO on 26 April 2016, 14:27:06
Pissed drivers should be banned for life.
I guess he was, technically.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 26 April 2016, 14:28:51
Pissed drivers should be banned for life.
I guess he was, technically.
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Even better , if they pop their clogs.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: ronnyd on 26 April 2016, 23:53:06
The roads are now a bit safer anyway. :y
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 27 April 2016, 09:09:10
The roads are now a bit safer anyway. :y
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Yes my sentiments entirely, at least they won't take some innocent law abiding  person's life.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: ronnyd on 27 April 2016, 20:48:21
Some ar*e got into the wrong lane at jct44 of A14 this afternoon, realised he wanted to go to Cambridge, (westbound). Came right across to inside lane in front of me, scared SWMBO sh*tless. Must have missed me by a foot, if that. >:(
Was a big BMW 4x4, was so shocked i didn,t get the number. Probably trying to go round the bus that was behind me and the didn,t fancy going all the way round the junction, inc 4 sets of lights, so carved me up instead. Tosser! and relax aahhh.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: STEMO on 27 April 2016, 20:54:37
Some ar*e got into the wrong lane at jct44 of A14 this afternoon, realised he wanted to go to Cambridge, (westbound). Came right across to inside lane in front of me, scared SWMBO sh*tless. Must have missed me by a foot, if that. >:(
Was a big BMW 4x4, was so shocked i didn,t get the number. Probably trying to go round the bus that was behind me and the didn,t fancy going all the way round the junction, inc 4 sets of lights, so carved me up instead. Tosser! and relax aahhh.
What good is 'getting the number'?
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: biggriffin on 27 April 2016, 21:01:51
Some ar*e got into the wrong lane at jct44 of A14 this afternoon, realised he wanted to go to Cambridge, (westbound). Came right across to inside lane in front of me, scared SWMBO sh*tless. Must have missed me by a foot, if that. >:(
Was a big BMW 4x4, was so shocked i didn,t get the number. Probably trying to go round the bus that was behind me and the didn,t fancy going all the way round the junction, inc 4 sets of lights, so carved me up instead. Tosser! and relax aahhh.

A normal everyday occurrence, I see every day. Most common is lane 3 to the slip road, when they look up from there phone, as sat nav says to them "exit 100m"  :P.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: STEMO on 27 April 2016, 22:13:12
The 'laws of the road' have changed somewhat over the years, it's more like 'every man for himself' now. And cameras won't stop it.
Title: Re: Drink driving
Post by: BazaJT on 27 April 2016, 22:25:00
Have to agree cameras won't stop anything of the sort as they can't detect such behaviour.Sadly there are nowhere near enough police patrols to act as a deterrent anymore.