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[ngrainqey]

Hello,
has anybody thought about blanking off the engine oil cooler in the vee and using a gearbox oil cooler rad instead?
alex

[Andy B]

Hello,
has anybody thought about blanking off the engine oil cooler in the vee and using a gearbox oil cooler rad instead?
alex

A lot of effort for what gain? The 'cooler' is in effect a 2 way heat exchanger, it helps to raise coolant temp when the engine is cold as well as helping to cool the oil when the engine is hot. 

[cem_devecioglu]

if you are going to mod the engine, oil cooler location must be changed for better cooling .. but this brings another problem..
 
you need a new design .. 

[feeutfo]

Thought there was a cooler stat available?

[ngrainqey]

im not really suggesting it to do anything other than eliminate the risk of oil cooler failure and contamination of water in oil/ oil in water
alex

[feeutfo]

As said above, the engine oil warming the coolant is often ever looked. I know I didn't think of it either, until Master pointed it out.

I'm under the impression the optimum temp is 70 to 80 degrees for a tuned engine. Not sure if that's true or why. But if the omega ran that cold it would be a pita in winter.

Later models have a steal oil cooler, I thought these where more reliable?

[dbug]

Yep later ones and replacements are stainless steel

[cem_devecioglu]

imo, placing oil cooler in the middle of engine and immersing in coolant not a good design in the first place ..
 
never seen a japanese car having similiar design..

[ngrainqey]

imo, placing oil cooler in the middle of engine and immersing in coolant not a good design in the first place ..
 
never seen a japanese car having similiar design..

+1 CEM, on the volvos the number 1 failure is autoboxes where the engine coolant and gearbox oil contaminate eachother because the gearbox oil cooler runs inside the coolant rad
alex

[Andy B]

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on the volvos the number 1 failure is autoboxes where the engine coolant and gearbox oil contaminate eachother because the gearbox oil cooler runs inside the coolant rad
alex

ATF cooler is in the end of the main rad on MOST cars. But the original question was re engine oil coolers. 

[ngrainqey]

lol sorry andy...back on topic, thought seeing as i was converting the auto to manual, i'd swap the atf cooler to an engine oil cooler

[Andy B]

lol sorry andy...back on topic, thought seeing as i was converting the auto to manual, i'd swap the atf cooler to an engine oil cooler

You mean you're thinking of swapping from an oil/water cooler in the V to an oil/water cooler in the main radiator 

Samething then .................... 

[ngrainqey]

nooo lol.... blank the oil cooler off in the vee then have an external oil cooler like the atf cooler currently on it no contamination then mmmm

[aaronjb]

nooo lol.... blank the oil cooler off in the vee then have an external oil cooler like the atf cooler currently on it no contamination then mmmm

But - unless you've got an aftermarket ATF cooler in there, your ATF cooler is in your radiator? If you've got an aftermarket ATF cooler on there then yeah, you could do the same thing for the oil, though you'd want a thermostatic sandwich plate to avoid over-cooling.

imo, placing oil cooler in the middle of engine and immersing in coolant not a good design in the first place ..
 
never seen a japanese car having similiar design..

Toyota 1ZZ engines have an oil cooler that's surrounded by engine coolant.

[cem_devecioglu]

nooo lol.... blank the oil cooler off in the vee then have an external oil cooler like the atf cooler currently on it no contamination then mmmm

But - unless you've got an aftermarket ATF cooler in there, your ATF cooler is in your radiator? If you've got an aftermarket ATF cooler on there then yeah, you could do the same thing for the oil, though you'd want a thermostatic sandwich plate to avoid over-cooling.

imo, placing oil cooler in the middle of engine and immersing in coolant not a good design in the first place ..
 
never seen a japanese car having similiar design..

Toyota 1ZZ engines have an oil cooler that's surrounded by engine coolant.

first I need to buy from those engines to see.. second another bad design then