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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #300 on: 02 September 2015, 19:16:23 »

Haha!!! bog standard ditch finders, Tig  :y

Fair enough re the weight opti..... as andy says I can takeit and get it weighed.

no tow bar. just wondering off the top of my head what ''options'' would add weight  :-\
Does extra weight include the welding you had done last year ......
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #301 on: 02 September 2015, 19:18:06 »

Haha!!! bog standard ditch finders, Tig  :y

Fair enough re the weight opti..... as andy says I can takeit and get it weighed.

no tow bar. just wondering off the top of my head what ''options'' would add weight  :-\
Does extra weight include the welding you had done last year ......

Shit......that's 300 KG Mr Bear hasn't accounted for. ;D
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #302 on: 02 September 2015, 19:20:02 »

Talking of shit......  Make sure you have one before the test!  ;)   That should lighten the load somewhat!!  :P  ;D
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #303 on: 02 September 2015, 19:20:28 »

And a piss  ;D
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #304 on: 02 September 2015, 20:06:06 »

And make sure its a good downhill road with tailwind, and a lighter driver,  I vote TMF to do the test. :y
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #305 on: 02 September 2015, 20:06:52 »

Silly boys  ::) ;D

My car doesn't have towing equipment. It doesn't have a sun roof. It does have a/c though. so my car SHOULD weigh around the base kerb weight (no options). Though obviously I wont know that until I get it weighed. which, as ive come thisfar, I may aswell go and do  ;D ;D ;D

Are car weights and option weights ALL in the manual then? I must give it a read.  :y
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« Reply #306 on: 02 September 2015, 21:12:35 »

And make sure its a good downhill road with tailwind, and a lighter driver,  I vote TMF to do the test. :y
I cant,it doesnt have decent mud tyres and it certainly wouldnt make it round yarwell off road course and its wading depth isnt very deep,so may drown. ;D
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #307 on: 02 September 2015, 21:23:44 »

Ok so needing a bit of help here.

Manual says its kerb weight is 1718. This includes assumed weight for driver of 68 kilos, luggage of 7 kilos, and all fluids (inc. 90% tank full).

SO based on what Vauxhall have said am I to remove the driver weight, fuel weight and luggage weight and then add on 200 kilos and compare that to my actual weight from the weigh bridge and add and subtract weight if necessary.

Your help would be really appreciated as I'm no good at maths. Bit of a stupid bear lol
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« Reply #308 on: 02 September 2015, 22:44:08 »

Dont forget to put correct pressure in tyres aswell,as that will make it heavier or lighter than what it should be  :y
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #309 on: 03 September 2015, 03:42:18 »

Please read the manual ::)

It lists the base weight plus the weights for different models... GLS,CD,CDX etc and supplementally the weights of heavy options such as tow bar and sunroof :y

All facelifts have AC/Climate... so you wont see it listed ::)
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« Reply #310 on: 03 September 2015, 07:47:05 »

Thanks boys. Martin, already asked him that in my reply  :y

Taxi, I literally have the manual in front of me  and have been reading it :P ;D

I don't think I've explained my question very well. I'll rephrase. . .

We can ignore the extra weight for heavy items cos I don't have a tow bar and I don't have a sun roof and if they all have a/c then that's another variable removed so that's great.

However. In the notes it states that the kerb weight of 1718kg includes 68kg for an average sized driver, 7kg for luggage, all fluids (engine oil, auto box fluid etc) and a 90% full tank.

SO. As Vauxhall in their performance testing procedures ADD a further 200kg on to the kerb weight for driver and luggage, surely I need to subtract 68 and 7 from the original kerb weight of 1718 to arrive at the correct kerb weight prior to testing and then ensure I have 200kg on top including myself (the driver)?

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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #311 on: 03 September 2015, 11:18:21 »

Thanks boys. Martin, already asked him that in my reply  :y

Taxi, I literally have the manual in front of me  and have been reading it :P ;D

I don't think I've explained my question very well. I'll rephrase. . .

We can ignore the extra weight for heavy items cos I don't have a tow bar and I don't have a sun roof and if they all have a/c then that's another variable removed so that's great.

However. In the notes it states that the kerb weight of 1718kg includes 68kg for an average sized driver, 7kg for luggage, all fluids (engine oil, auto box fluid etc) and a 90% full tank.

SO. As Vauxhall in their performance testing procedures ADD a further 200kg on to the kerb weight for driver and luggage, surely I need to subtract 68 and 7 from the original kerb weight of 1718 to arrive at the correct kerb weight prior to testing and then ensure I have 200kg on top including myself (the driver)?

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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #312 on: 03 September 2015, 18:28:46 »

Thanks opti. So at a guess do you reckon mine will exceed 1643 kg? That's with full tank
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #313 on: 03 September 2015, 19:17:20 »

Thanks opti. So at a guess do you reckon mine will exceed 1643 kg? That's with full tank
young Mr bear your trying to go fast, so less weight, not a full tank.
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #314 on: 03 September 2015, 19:20:03 »

I know what you mean bg but actually I'm just trying to replicate the original test conditions
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