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[Sir Tigger KC]

So it's the big decision today on whether the government will allow Huawei to be involved in Britain's 5G network! 

Will they or won't they?       

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

They probably will, but they probably shouldn't.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Yes it seems a bit like buying a cheap car with known issues that you know could be costly, but just how costly you don't really know. 

I read that one of the reasons the US is piling on the pressure is that other countries have the same dilemma and are waiting to see what the UK does. 

[Varche]

It isn't a dilemma. Better phrase is hard choice.

How about a compromise. Just use the Huawei for the non important bits of the network and use the US spying capability stuff for the core. Plus a briefing to all spies to only use 4G in future. 5G is just for gamers

[STEMO]

The girl in our local Chinese chippy says it will be fine, and I've known her for years so she wouldn't lie. 

[STEMO]

Boris believed her too, he's letting huawei in, a little bit.

[STEMO]

I can just see it now:
Donald "You don't know what you're doing you fat, blonde prick"
Boris    "Pot, kettle, black"
 

[scimmy_man]

well they have gone for it, only 35%?

US guy wailing about 35% secure

[Lizzie Zoom]

So the tech guys can guarantee that a provider of a percentage of the 5G system can be stopped from gaining highly sensitive UK security information from the rest of the hardware on behalf of the Chinese State ?

I expect they cannot judging by all the high level hacking that has gone on in recent times! 

We TOTALLY rely on the USA for our security in terms of the military and intelligence, but our government has decided to make this decision!
Utter madness!!

Start learning mandarin!

[STEMO]

I can't understand how we're so far behind in the development of our own equipment. Sack someone, that should placate the media.

[Lizzie Zoom]

I can't understand how we're so far behind in the development of our own equipment. Sack someone, that should placate the media.

Yes, 12-18 months apparently

[aaronjb]

I can't understand how we're so far behind in the development of our own equipment. Sack someone, that should placate the media.

Yes, 12-18 months apparently

Now ask yourself where the chips will be sourced for anything "we" "produce" "in the UK".

It'll probably be China. Same as anything "Made in America" (OK, there are chip fab plants in the US but most networking gear - Broadcom, et al - comes from Mao's Candyland)

[STEMO]

I can't understand how we're so far behind in the development of our own equipment. Sack someone, that should placate the media.

Yes, 12-18 months apparently

Now ask yourself where the chips will be sourced for anything "we" "produce" "in the UK".

It'll probably be China. Same as anything "Made in America" (OK, there are chip fab plants in the US but most networking gear - Broadcom, et al - comes from Mao's Candyland)

Put loads of dosh into Graphcore, get them 'up and running'........maybe? 

[aaronjb]

I can't understand how we're so far behind in the development of our own equipment. Sack someone, that should placate the media.

Yes, 12-18 months apparently

Now ask yourself where the chips will be sourced for anything "we" "produce" "in the UK".

It'll probably be China. Same as anything "Made in America" (OK, there are chip fab plants in the US but most networking gear - Broadcom, et al - comes from Mao's Candyland)

Put loads of dosh into Graphcore, get them 'up and running'........maybe? 

I believe their chip-fab is in Taiwan... we do however, have chip fab in Glenrothes and Newport (Wales), amazingly enough.. they could pile some money into those 

They being you and me, of course, because it'll be coming out of our taxes 

[STEMO]

This 'spying' lark. Surely state backed hackers could, more or less, get into any system they chose to? I'm not very techie but, as far as I can see, the only really secure system would be like an intranet thingy, totally independent of the www.