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[Dan282]

I'm going to get another omega tomorrow. Not sure what my plans are with it but most likely fix the niggles and pop it on ebay in the new year.

My lady thinks I'm mad but I'm taking a punt on it.

It's a w plate 2.2 cd in silver with 130k on although it had a replacement engine and gearbox in 2009. Needs glove box handle, possibly a new battery and a good valet but we will see. Looking forward to driving a 2.2 for the first time aswell.

[tunnie]

Is it a manual? 2.2's are so much easier to work on, they love fresh oil. Nice and easily to clean the breathers, worth popping off throttle body and giving them a damn good clean.

Also a good service (plugs, filters, oils) does wonders on them. 

[Dan282]

It's an auto mate. It's got a load of service history so hoping there's not much to do. Will change the oil for sure.

[2boxerdogs]

Yes they are a doddle to work on , but to drive I think they are gutless compared to the V6.

[tunnie]

It's an auto mate. It's got a load of service history so hoping there's not much to do. Will change the oil for sure.

Drop coolant too, if it's a keeper. Check for cam belt history too, also make sure it's got a geniune cat downpipe, the pattern ones are just utter shite.

Yes they are a doddle to work on , but to drive I think they are gutless compared to the V6.

Depends what you want, 2.2 will cruise quite happily at 80mph just like my 3.2. Wack on cruise, sits there all day, granted though the 3.2 gets there quicker and 80+ it just pulls and pulls.

[Dan282]

It's an auto mate. It's got a load of service history so hoping there's not much to do. Will change the oil for sure.

Drop coolant too, if it's a keeper. Check for cam belt history too, also make sure it's got a geniune cat downpipe, the pattern ones are just utter shite.

Yes they are a doddle to work on , but to drive I think they are gutless compared to the V6.

Depends what you want, 2.2 will cruise quite happily at 80mph just like my 3.2. Wack on cruise, sits there all day, granted though the 3.2 gets there quicker and 80+ it just pulls and pulls.

Will do. Sure it was cambelted when the new engine went it. Are the 2.2's still 40k or 4 years. It got a new full exhaust just fitted so I will check that. Getting it about 11am tomorrow.

[tunnie]

Sounds good, yes, 40k/4 years. Although with 2.2 it's also critical for water pump to be replaced too 

Have a nose around the exhaust flexi too, these can be cut out and welded in. Trouble is many 2.2's would have gone through one by now, so may have a pattern cat unless done right first time around.

If its worn/freyed, no bother, just £15 for a replacement. Then beer supplies to someone with a plasma cutter.

[RobG]

Yes they are a doddle to work on , but to drive I think they are gutless compared to the V6.

Bit of a pointless comment IMO. Bit like saying the V6 is gutless compared to V8/10/12

[Dan282]

Sounds good, yes, 40k/4 years. Although with 2.2 it's also critical for water pump to be replaced too 

Have a nose around the exhaust flexi too, these can be cut out and welded in. Trouble is many 2.2's would have gone through one by now, so may have a pattern cat unless done right first time around.

If its worn/freyed, no bother, just £15 for a replacement. Then beer supplies to someone with a plasma cutter.

Cheers will do. What about headgasket wise? The seller stated they had a new head gasket "a few years ago" and mentions often about the number of receipts so I'm fairly confident. For the price it is a bit of a punt.

[tunnie]

Sounds good, yes, 40k/4 years. Although with 2.2 it's also critical for water pump to be replaced too 

Have a nose around the exhaust flexi too, these can be cut out and welded in. Trouble is many 2.2's would have gone through one by now, so may have a pattern cat unless done right first time around.

If its worn/freyed, no bother, just £15 for a replacement. Then beer supplies to someone with a plasma cutter.

Cheers will do. What about headgasket wise? The seller stated they had a new head gasket "a few years ago" and mentions often about the number of receipts so I'm fairly confident. For the price it is a bit of a punt.

Be good to know what miles it had done on HG failure, points to abuse or dealer service intervals.

FatherT's 2.2 was Vx services (fleet car) - It's HG failed at ~95k

My 2.2, DIY service by me, is on 167k, on its original head gasket 

[Dan282]

Not sure but if it was a few years ago I'm guessing around the 120k mark.

[2boxerdogs]

Yes they are a doddle to work on , but to drive I think they are gutless compared to the V6.

Bit of a pointless comment IMO. Bit like saying the V6 is gutless compared to V8/10/12

Not pointless just my opinion having one of each, as for V6 against V8 etc the only thing really better would be the exhaust note,my 2.6 is also better on fuel than the 2.2 .The only reason I bought the 2.2 for my wife was the fact it was 1 owner minter , came with every piece of paper from new.She loves it & protests when I refer to it as the"gutless wonder".

[Vamps]

Yes they are a doddle to work on , but to drive I think they are gutless compared to the V6.

But quite capable of daily use, and hardly a slouch for such a big car, even in auto........

[Dan282]

It's about 100 miles back so I'm keen to find out after only having v6's

[2boxerdogs]

Yes they are a doddle to work on , but to drive I think they are gutless compared to the V6.

But quite capable of daily use, and hardly a slouch for such a big car, even in auto........

Yes quite capable, but not as enjoyable !!

[Dan282]

Well it made it back the 120 miles journey without any real problems.

The good:

Engine very smooth.
Cleaner than I thought it would be.
Everything works.
Replacement (70k)engine 18k miles ago with recon gearbox
Averaged 36mpg on the way back including traffic
4 excellent tyres/new exhaust and cambelt/tensioners done with new engine.
4 months mot and 6 months tax.


Not so good:

1 arch has some bubbling
Auto gearbox isn't particularly smooth
Glovebox lock broken.

So first job is to check the level and relavant mechanisms/switches for the gearbox.

[The Red Baron]

sounds a good buy Dan. 

[Dan282]

Here she is anyway. 2 omega family eh.

[tunnie]

For gearbox, look at dropping ATF 

Gearbox software update makes a big difference 

[Dan282]

Well it had ATF and filter change in 2010 at 112k so I'm hoping its a top up hobby.

[tunnie]

Or even easier, software 

[Dan282]

Or even easier, software 

Who's the best person to contact around the midlands? May as well get the v6 done aswell. 

[tunnie]

Or even easier, software 

Who's the best person to contact around the midlands? May as well get the v6 done aswell.

Mr MarksDTM or Fuse18 or what ever his ID is these days 

[Dan282]

That's it! Fuse18 . I did pm him. If it doesn't require any ATF fluid or it makes no different then il go down that route. Cheers tunnie. 

[tunnie]

No probs 

[Dan282]

Just been having a read. Is there a separate ecu for the autobox?

[tunnie]

Yup 

[Dan282]

Is it read separately? Where is it located?

[tunnie]

Is it read separately? Where is it located?

All done via Tech2, it's near drivers kick panel. You don't need to do anything physical with it, all software 

[Dan282]

Is it read separately? Where is it located?

All done via Tech2, it's near drivers kick panel. You don't need to do anything physical with it, all software 

Excellent. 

[PAULCDX]

Sounds like you've had a good buy Dan 

Are you keeping your CDX also ? 

[Dan282]

Yeah mate the Cdx ain't going anywhere. Just bought it to do a few odd jobs on the cheap and sell on. Didn't pay a lot for it so plans are to check and top up ATF, oil and filter changed, fix glovebox, full valet and see what I can get for her. 

[PAULCDX]

Lovely mate 

Hope to catch you at a meet or something in the new year, maybe at Jon's or Dave's ?   

[Dan282]

I'm up for that buddy.

[Webby the Bear]

Nice motor there Dan 

What, in your opinion, is the difference between the V6 and the 4 cylinder?

Tunnie said it's more than capable and as I imagine I drive like him I'm thinking this would be ok for me too (thinking about the future ). But would be excellent to get as many views on the difference from as many as poss.

[Dan282]

Nice motor there Dan 

What, in your opinion, is the difference between the V6 and the 4 cylinder?

Tunnie said it's more than capable and as I imagine I drive like him I'm thinking this would be ok for me too (thinking about the future ). But would be excellent to get as many views on the difference from as many as poss.

It's just adequate mate. It's cruises nicely but it didn't want to be rushed. Very quiet and good mpg on a run. I'd happily have one.

[2boxerdogs]

Nice motor there Dan 

What, in your opinion, is the difference between the V6 and the 4 cylinder?

Tunnie said it's more than capable and as I imagine I drive like him I'm thinking this would be ok for me too (thinking about the future ). But would be excellent to get as many views on the difference from as many as poss.

I think that after a V6 you would be disappointed with it, the fuel difference is hardly noticeable & the V6 even seems to handle better.I know I would miss the grunt of the V6, really depends what you are looking for if it  is better mpg don't bother..

[Dan282]

I would always look for a v6 first if I ever sold mine but if a mint hi spec 2.2 came up is certainly consider it. My 5000 miles a year doesn't really warrant the v6 but I do love it and the monthly journey to Dudley is always a pleasure. 

[Webby the Bear]

It's interesting how people's reports of them are that they're pretty slow compared to the V6. The stats suggest the 4 cylinders are only behind the V6 by a second

[Webby the Bear]

*Edit*

......on the 0-62 dash 

[tunnie]

I regularly switch between 3.2 and 2.2, never disappointed when I jump in my 2.2, smooth, comfy, excellent pence per mile thanks to LPG.

3.2 is a different beast though, it's so easy to be very quick and fully loaded 4 up, with full boot, just goes really really well. 2.2 will struggle there, but with just me in it, goes fine.

[PAULCDX]

Having owned the 2.2 and now 2.6 I have to be honest that I haven't noticed much difference in fuel economy 

I wouldn't hesitate in owning another 2.2 if I had to but I would miss the grunt and power of the V6 tho