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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Doctor Gollum on 21 November 2020, 11:17:51
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...and everything that has occurred this year was planned.
Discuss.
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By whom?
If you could call it planning, it has all the petulant, vicious, attention seeking attributes of the old testament god.
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Now that's a conspiracy theory and a half. Next you'll be telling us it's Dr Evils doings.
At the present time we need our resident conspiracy Member Rods2 taking on what's going on.
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By whom?
If you could call it planning, it has all the petulant, vicious, attention seeking attributes of the old testament god.
The same people who say the moon landings were faked and that the Roswell crash was an alien craft rather than a highly-classified high altitude balloon.
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I wonder....
There is so much about Covid that just doesn't add up. Every night the BBC solemnly tell us the daily Covid death toll, but there in the small print underneath the headline numbers are the words People who have died for any reason within 28 days of a positive Covid-19 test. ::)
There was a thread on Twitter yesterday started by a lady from Northern Ireland who said that her 90 something father had recently died in a care home and the death certificate recorded the cause of death as Covid. She said that he had had 3 negative Covid tests in the 2 weeks running up to his death and that no-one can give her an adequate explanation as to why his death has falsely been recorded as Covid. In the comments that followed her initial tweet there were several people saying the same had happened to them.
Why are they exaggerating the figures? ??? And how many have actually been killed by Covid-19?
Why are the media going along with this? Where is the hard hitting investigative journalism? ???
Love it or hate it the Daily Mail is often the place to go if you want to find out the nitty gritty of something and they kind of broke ranks yesterday.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8971669/What-DONT-tell-Covid-facts-twisted-strike-fear-hearts.html
Last month three scientists from the Universities of Harvard, Stanford and Oxford published an open letter calling on governments around the world to take a different approach to lockdowns and basically let people live their lives but shield the elderly and those vulnerable to Covid. The letter was signed by thousands of medical professionals worldwide. The Great Barrington Declaration was furiously attacked by the left and lockdown proponents and the authors, all eminent virologists/epidemiologists were even subjected to personal smears and attacks. As far as I could tell it was never seriously debated or considered by the goverment.
All that said if you do catch it, it can be a nasty experience. and reportedly Long Covid can be debilitating. I only know 2 people who have had it, one a fit and fairly healthy 55 year old builder who had it in February but thought it was just a nasty flu and carried on working, but later when more information came out got tested, which show he had anti-bodies, and an 85 year old friend who was in hospital for a minor unrelated condition, but caught it there. He survived but looked very frail when he got home. :-\
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There seems to be a sudden rush to accelerate environmental targets which were always just far enough away to seem optimistic but are suddenly five to ten years...
Biden said it himself that he wanted America to stop using oil by 2025 :o The US election is the perfect opportunity to get the largest economy in line, but again they haven't counted on Trumps support, (you'd have thought they would have learnt four years ago) and whether his legal challenges are successful or not, it should expose enough to make people stop and think.
And suddenly Boris wants local nuclear plants across the country and the end of new ICE cars has been bought forward to 2030. Our government started the year optimistically but have gradually become more socialist as the year has gone on... Nothing has really impacted the spread of Covid, yet here we are pretending the shutting everything down is a reasonable thing to do whilst draining the kitty. Boris looks like someone who has been coerced into towing the line of some New World Order and is trying to do so without letting on... You can see the strain in his face.
Cheaply available mass air travel has been decimated in the developed world.
And if you look at who has benefited, it's much the same people who have attended Bloombergs Economic Forum. Which looks alot like the financial wing of the World Economic Forum.
There's probably a couple of hundred people in charge of everything and most are run private corporations and they clearly own several government leaders.
That's not to say that governments knew ahead of time, as clearly the initial impact was devastating enough to catch everyone off guard, but as the year has gone on treatments have vastly improved and a selection of vaccines are imminent so whilst the cases keep increasing, the relative mortality rate is actually falling.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The sticky for jokes is at the top of the page
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The sticky for jokes is at the top of the page
I think it's time we had a tinfoil-hat smiley......
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I'd settle for a tinsel smiley given that it's almost that time of year :D
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What politician or government would bring this all about? For what logical gain?
The politicians are being hauled over the coals for their handling of the pandemic so is that what they had wanted?
If this was planned by someone or an organisation with evil intent to kill off a very large proportion of the World's population, then they have done a poor job. The Spanish Flue, or the early Black Death did a far better job and we know that was not planned by anyone and was just a result of how people lived at the time.
So is the current COVID 19. We are organic beings, living as and with nature so this type of 'plague' can be expected from time to time., The way we commute across the World and are so ignorant and arrogant (especially in the West) means we do not think we should be told what to do and take notice of 'expert instruction'. So we will continue to have health scares, some, like this one, bigger than others.
There is no conspiracy so normal living will mean we will lose our physical body eventually from one thing or another, and at the moment there is this pandemic but the the skill of scientists will help us overcome it like with many of the diseases of the physical form we are. :)
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I don't actually watch the news when anything about the pandemic is being spoken about now, it seemed obvious to me some time ago that nobody has a clue what they are doing or how to handle this situation, everyday there was different information from different " experts". So we are just being as careful as we can to hopefully avoid it but as I've said before you can't change your place in the queue when it's your time that's it I'm afraid.
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Who said anything about killing large numbers of population? Ok, the people who have died so far is nearly 1.4 million, but that's not a significant figure in the grand scheme of things yet it is enough to imply the narrative that we're all going to die if we go to work or socialise. This illusion simply isn't true, but because of the media bombardment of negative spin, we're all cowering in the corner afraid of our own shadows.
The orchestrators are, in no particular order, the Chinese leadership, media moguls such as Bloomberg and Murdoch, social media, particularly the big three, and other exceptionally powerful people/companies including Amazon and Microsoft.
Independent free enterprise is a threat to the global domination of the above, and what better way to kill small business than to shut down large swaithes of the global economies than to literally lock them down?
Poor countries aren't affected in the same way as they're already poor where as we take our freedoms for granted.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1151316535286953&id=232618967558718
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Hmmmmm.....tin foil hat, anyone? ;D
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Hmmmmm.....tin foil hat, anyone? ;D
Why have they exaggerated the death statistics then? ???
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Hmmmmm.....tin foil hat, anyone? ;D
Why have they exaggerated the death statistics then? ???
You say they have, I see no evidence. Neither am I going to look, because I have better things to worry about.
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Who said anything about killing large numbers of population? Ok, the people who have died so far is nearly 1.4 million, but that's not a significant figure in the grand scheme of things yet it is enough to imply the narrative that we're all going to die if we go to work or socialise. This illusion simply isn't true, but because of the media bombardment of negative spin, we're all cowering in the corner afraid of our own shadows.
The orchestrators are, in no particular order, the Chinese leadership, media moguls such as Bloomberg and Murdoch, social media, particularly the big three, and other exceptionally powerful people/companies including Amazon and Microsoft.
Independent free enterprise is a threat to the global domination of the above, and what better way to kill small business than to shut down large swaithes of the global economies than to literally lock them down?
Poor countries aren't affected in the same way as they're already poor where as we take our freedoms for granted.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1151316535286953&id=232618967558718
Yes, who has said that? ::) ::) ;)
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Hmmmmm.....tin foil hat, anyone? ;D
Why have they exaggerated the death statistics then? ???
I can't think of a single positive reason for it :-\
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Me neither, nor a negative one. But, then, I don't think about it, as long as they don't tell me my auntie has died when she's really alive and well living in Wigan. ;D
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Why don't you start an online petition? Surely 100,000 people would have noticed this, it can't be just you two. Then Boris will have to tell you.
Or maybe send an assassin around to your house. Oh...no.....leave it.
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Me neither, nor a negative one. But, then, I don't think about it, as long as they don't tell me my auntie has died when she's really alive and well living in Wigan. ;D
I can only imagine that Wigan is a form of living death. :)
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Me neither, nor a negative one. But, then, I don't think about it, as long as they don't tell me my auntie has died when she's really alive and well living in Wigan. ;D
I can only imagine that Wigan is a form of living death. :)
So...she might as well be dead? I'll tell Boris to add her to the figures :y
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If it is deliberate then the country that “ released” it benefits by a) getting its economy going again quicker ( it was on hold while Trump was in the towers) b) snapping up foundering West companies .
If it is a plot, how do you persuade more or less every country’s leader to go along with it.it would have been far far cheaper to protect the vulnerable.
Maybe it is just about approx £20 a pop vaccine shots multiplied by billions?.
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Hmmmmm.....tin foil hat, anyone? ;D
Why have they exaggerated the death statistics then? ???
You say they have, I see no evidence. Neither am I going to look, because I have better things to worry about.
OK it's just me that thinks it's odd that they are counting people who died of any reason as a Covid death if they had had a positive test at least 28 days before. :-X
But why are they doing this? ???
If you get diagnosed with cancer, but get run over by a bus a fortnight later I'm damned sure your death certificate wouldn't have cancer as the cause of death. ::)
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Hmmmmm.....tin foil hat, anyone? ;D
Why have they exaggerated the death statistics then? ???
You say they have, I see no evidence. Neither am I going to look, because I have better things to worry about.
OK it's just me that thinks it's odd that they are counting people who died of any reason as a Covid death if they had had a positive test at least 28 days before. :-X
But why are they doing this? ???
If you get diagnosed with cancer, but get run over by a bus a fortnight later I'm damned sure your death certificate wouldn't have cancer as the cause of death. ::)
I don't know, you're asking in the wrong place. But, in the end, what practical difference does it make? Dead people are dead people. If it's to scare people into following the lockdown rules, it's not working very well, is it?
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Simple explanation. The bigger/ better the headline figures the easier to get compliance from the populace.
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Simple explanation. The bigger/ better the headline figures the easier to get compliance from the populace.
That's exactly what I've just said. It's obviously not working, unless it's quiet where you are. It's certainly not here.
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You could have letters the size of the Hollywood sign and people would still say they haven't seen it. ???
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I can't see it as a conspiracy, only because I don't see the money in it. There's been a massive destruction of shareholder value, which presumably has also impacted the rich and powerful who allegedly run the world (with a small number of exceptions).
I also don't buy it being used to target small businesses, by definition the likes of Amazon and Microsoft have dominated those businesses for a number of years, hence why they are the size they are.
In all honesty I think conspiracy theories abound because people would like to believe that there is a guiding force, malevolent or otherwise, rather than us all just being an uncoordinated collective clinging to a spinning rock that's hurtling through space and no one has a clue what's going on, or how to fix it.
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I can't see it as a conspiracy, only because I don't see the money in it. There's been a massive destruction of shareholder value, which presumably has also impacted the rich and powerful who allegedly run the world (with a small number of exceptions).
I also don't buy it being used to target small businesses, by definition the likes of Amazon and Microsoft have dominated those businesses for a number of years, hence why they are the size they are.
In all honesty I think conspiracy theories abound because people would like to believe that there is a guiding force, malevolent or otherwise, rather than us all just being an uncoordinated collective clinging to a spinning rock that's hurtling through space and no one has a clue what's going on, or how to fix it.
What about god? ;D
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I can't see it as a conspiracy, only because I don't see the money in it. There's been a massive destruction of shareholder value, which presumably has also impacted the rich and powerful who allegedly run the world (with a small number of exceptions).
I also don't buy it being used to target small businesses, by definition the likes of Amazon and Microsoft have dominated those businesses for a number of years, hence why they are the size they are.
In all honesty I think conspiracy theories abound because people would like to believe that there is a guiding force, malevolent or otherwise, rather than us all just being an uncoordinated collective clinging to a spinning rock that's hurtling through space and no one has a clue what's going on, or how to fix it.
What about god? ;D
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Gave up on him years ago..😄
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If indeed he does exist, he'd better be on notice, cause I want a word when my time is up! ;D
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To answer the business point, closing non essential business and travel prevents those non essential business from functioning as they cannot turnover stock/cover costs. Borrowing to cover this is a bad idea in the short term, albeit accepted practice, and suicide as a long term solution. Also consider that people are basically forced to buy non essential items online whether they used to or not, and there is a very real possibility that the high street will be dead alot sooner than if we hadn't been locked down.
Also, most high street outlets are either chains and part of much larger companies or small independent businesses. The larger companies have the ability to centralise and go online permanently and use Amazon/Alibaba as their sole outlets. On the face of it, small businesses can also do this, but internet competition is significantly harder than on the high street, so eventually they can't bring in the revenue.
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To answer the business point, closing non essential business and travel prevents those non essential business from functioning as they cannot turnover stock/cover costs. Borrowing to cover this is a bad idea in the short term, albeit accepted practice, and suicide as a long term solution. Also consider that people are basically forced to buy non essential items online whether they used to or not, and there is a very real possibility that the high street will be dead alot sooner than if we hadn't been locked down.
Also, most high street outlets are either chains and part of much larger companies or small independent businesses. The larger companies have the ability to centralise and go online permanently and use Amazon/Alibaba as their sole outlets. On the face of it, small businesses can also do this, but internet competition is significantly harder than on the high street, so eventually they can't bring in the revenue.
Right. What was the question again? ;D
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If indeed he does exist, he'd better be on notice, cause I want a word when my time is up! ;D
What if you find yourself having a word with the other fella? :o ;D
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TBf, he's probably more up my particular straße. I always understood that you go to hell for the people and heaven for the weather ;)
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Hmmmmm.....tin foil hat, anyone? ;D
Why have they exaggerated the death statistics then? ???
You say they have, I see no evidence. Neither am I going to look, because I have better things to worry about.
OK it's just me that thinks it's odd that they are counting people who died of any reason as a Covid death if they had had a positive test at least 28 days before. :-X
But why are they doing this? ???
If you get diagnosed with cancer, but get run over by a bus a fortnight later I'm damned sure your death certificate wouldn't have cancer as the cause of death. ::)
You say they're exaggerating the figures - I think they're underestimates. The ONS has a whole slew of information, here :
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending6november2020
But this is the most convincing to me :
https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc1058/fig3/index.html?initialWidth=700&childId=57b-4dc0-9e9f-2b88f80cb6a0&parentTitle=Deaths%20registered%20weekly%20in%20England%20and%20Wales%2C%20provisional%20-%20Office%20for%20National%20Statistics&parentUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ons.gov.uk%2Fpeoplepopulationandcommunity%2Fbirthsdeathsandmarriages%2Fdeaths%2Fbulletins%2Fdeathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional%2Fweekending6november2020
Now obviously it's possible to be run over by a bus whilst failing a CV19 test 27 days ago, and you'll be counted in the 28 day stats. But the excess deaths figures so far this year are in the region of 70K, versus the current died within 28 days figure of 55K ish. So if anything the 'headline' figure is an underestimate, unless you have some other explanation for the excess deaths.
That's not to say I agree with lockdown, or throwing hundreds of billions at projects intended to defy Darwinism.
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FWIW my take -
1. Follow the money - who would gain (not themselves lose a huge amount from existing financial and social structures) by doing it? Particularly where there are less complex options available.
2. How many people would be needed to sustain it, and not expose it for their own benefit?
The same points could probably apply to the US election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
Entities should not be multiplied without necessity
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To try to better present my case for the economic theory, try this:
'The State' boils down to three significant parts: Government, Banks and Private global companies (Producers) that produce the bulk of our consumption (Amazon, Facebook, Unilever, Proctor and Gamble etc).
As George Orwell pointed out in Animal Farm, ignoring the addendum "But some are more equal than others" as it's an inconvenient truth to the Leftist elite, the foundation of a socialist system is that everyone is the same. This can be tailored to any given audience. For example, you might tell a subsistence farmer that they could learn to read so that they might get a better job so that they could buy their food instead of growing it; or you might tell a minority blue collar worker that they could easily obtain credit in order to buy that shiny car or SUV like their boss has or more fundamentally a nicer house; or the majority white collar worker that they could spend all their free cash buying stuff. Ultimately, wherever you are in the grand scheme of life you could always aspire to have more. What they don't tell you is the price of enslavement to the system.
On the face of it, this all sounds very Capitalist, and kind of where society is at currently. However the upper middle class and more frugal lower middle class and brighter blue collar people aren't necessarily swayed by things enough to borrow to get them as they tend to have relatively higher disposable incomes. live within their means and are sensible with their money. These people are a genuine threat to the socialist system as they cannot be bought and are therefore pretty much incorruptible. Those working for other people are generally less vulnerable than those who are self employed, but most people are only a couple of months pay away from being dependant on the state.
I previously linked to a video that formed a part o the Biden/Harris campaign about CRT and the levelling of opportunity for minorities... it depicted a brown person struggling to climb a rock to join the white person admiring the view and suggested raising the ground up so that the brown person could simply step onto the rock. (this is inherently racist as it suggests that minorities aren't motivated enough to achieve. In fact, I would go as far as to say that it implies that being dependant on the state is a good thing, especially as a minority >:( ).
A significant part of the World Economic Forums' premise is to equalise opportunities and life expectations, and going back to the fundamental Socialist principle of equality earlier, the easiest way to do this is to take from those who have and give it to those who don't. It is far more cost effective for governments to knock the middle classes down than to raise the poorer levels up.
By enforcing a global lockdown and paying non essential people to stay at home, you have instantly created a captive audience who suddenly start spending money buying things online having been bombarded by adverts for stuff wherever they look. This spending frenzy ultimately consumes all the disposable income and eats into the readily available lending. Eventually, the jobs cut back and the wages fall, and you end up with people who will take any minimum wage job in order to satisfy their credit commitments... "You will have less and you will be happy". The Banks will do two things from their credit incomes: firstly they will make a shit ton of money; secondly they will fund credit to the poorer people globally so that they can obtain more. In turn, this feeds the Producers. Those who still have financial freedom will find themselves heavily taxed to pay for the Government costs of a Socialist state providing for those who have dropped out of the financial cycle... "You will have less and you will be happy".
The easiest way to do this?
Release an airbourne virus just deadly enough to scare people into submission, the aim being to control consumers not eradicate them. And control the media to reinforce the message. There's a reason why Sky News Australia is so outspoken about everything outside of Australia. The basic premise being that they are the other side of the world, literally, and therefore their opinion doesn't matter.. Yet at the same time some Australian States have become Police dictatorships under the pretext of protecting public health.
As for the why? That's easy... follow the money. Who makes everything that we consume? Like I said above and previously almost everything is owned by a few individuals.
As an aside, the global shutdown of much of the aviation industry and reducing car travel has created a noticeable improvement in global air quality, which makes it easier to push a green agenda as part of the overall package... again, look who benefits financially from this. Hint, it's not the consumer. Some of the ideas promoted by the World Economic Forum seem quite reasonable in the way that they are presented, but don't be fooled by the corporate videos, the clue is in the name... it's not a campaign to save polar bears.
Fortunately, we're a resilient bunch and hopefully all Trumps yelling, whether he is re-elected or not, has raised enough attention despite of the medias best efforts of how the leftist elites try to gain political power (it legitamises what they do within the framework of democracy) that we might keep our own systems free from direct interference and thereby maintain a degree of input into how we are governed. This is also why Brexit is so important.
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Hmmmmm.....tin foil hat, anyone? ;D
Why have they exaggerated the death statistics then? ???
I can't think of a single positive reason for it :-\
stupidity, incomprehension, incompetence, misunderstanding of statistics, pessimism are all much more likely than some global conspiracy run by press barons, nerds and the inheritors of British Leyland and Triumph.
Then the politicians get involved, and show how professionals create opps ups.
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I'm on to Al's Modus Operandi. Post in the middle of the night when no one's about to disagree. Or, post such a long, rambling novel that no one can be bothered to read it. I certainly can't, anyway.
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This time next year it may all be over, enjoy each day & stay safe it's really as simple or as complicated as you want to make it.
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It didn't look that long on the laptop :-[
Did I mention that I am not a morning person...
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There can be legitimate reason to suspect that socialist(ic) forms of government have or acquire a tendency to control the market and money to their own benefit, even if that's an unintended effect. Hayek or Thomas Sowell explain why that is better than me. And that effect can help secure their voter base going forward.
BUT for Covid to be used (deliberately) to achieve that would need yuge assumptions and predictions about
- its spread and nature, which are still not clear
- the success or failure of medical treatments/vaccination, in the immediate and long term
- how disparate countries, regions and people within would respond, which have changed
- the exit strategy once the plan has succeeded
So as method to gain compliance, influence individual spending and the economy, and clean up the environment, I'm not seeing deploying Covid as the most obvious or 'easiest way to do it'.
But then I'm not a morning person either.
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The government seems pretty socialist at the moment. :)
Overwhelmingly so.
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The government seems pretty socialist at the moment. :)
Overwhelmingly so.
Well, apart from £16.5 billion extra for Defence............... 8) 8) :D :D ;)
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The government seems pretty socialist at the moment. :)
Overwhelmingly so.
Well, apart from £16.5 billion extra for Defence............... 8) 8) :D :D ;)
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Anybody would think that there is something brewing...
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The government seems pretty socialist at the moment. :)
Overwhelmingly so.
Well, apart from £16.5 billion extra for Defence............... 8) 8) :D :D ;)
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Anybody would think that there is something brewing...
If there is , by the time the new toys etc arrive, the party will be over .
probably just Tories handing big wads of cash to their mates and companies they have an interest in ;D
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The government seems pretty socialist at the moment. :)
Overwhelmingly so.
Well, apart from £16.5 billion extra for Defence............... 8) 8) :D :D ;)
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Anybody would think that there is something brewing...
I Like to think that it's a job creation scheme to stop clever people going off to get jobs with the enemy. When i worked at RR Nuclear there were alot of physics graduates, who were totally unemployable in a normal job.
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The government seems pretty socialist at the moment. :)
Overwhelmingly so.
Well, apart from £16.5 billion extra for Defence............... 8) 8) :D :D ;)
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Anybody would think that there is something brewing...
If there is , by the time the new toys etc arrive, the party will be over .
probably just Tories handing big wads of cash to their mates and companies they have an interest in ;D
New toys all available for immediate delivery if you know where to look.
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The government seems pretty socialist at the moment. :)
Overwhelmingly so.
Well, apart from £16.5 billion extra for Defence............... 8) 8) :D :D ;)
all of which is to be spent on toys that don't yet exist. Standard right-wing ideology, hand out government money to your sponsors/old boy network for little quantifiable return
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The government seems pretty socialist at the moment. :)
Overwhelmingly so.
Well, apart from £16.5 billion extra for Defence............... 8) 8) :D :D ;)
all of which is to be spent on toys that don't yet exist. Standard right-wing ideology, hand out government money to your sponsors/old boy network for little quantifiable return
Space wars, apparently. ;D
As someone once said, 'Enjoy yourselves, it's later than you think'
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surely the Aliens won't attack earth an time soon :-\
they'd have to quarantine for 2 weeks ;D
obviously "illegal aliens" don't follow the rules though ,but they use dinghies ,fishing boats etc .not space ships :P
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surely the Aliens won't attack earth an time soon :-\
they'd have to quarantine for 2 weeks ;D
obviously "illegal aliens" don't follow the rules though ,but they use dinghies ,fishing boats etc .not space ships :P
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Don't tell me you've never seen a flying saucer..😁
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surely the Aliens won't attack earth an time soon :-\
they'd have to quarantine for 2 weeks ;D
obviously "illegal aliens" don't follow the rules though ,but they use dinghies ,fishing boats etc .not space ships :P
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Don't tell me you've never seen a flying saucer..😁
We drink coffee from mugs here in middle earth ;) not cups and saucers
seen plenty of flying plates, ash trays, etc though ,been married 3 times :D
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surely the Aliens won't attack earth an time soon :-\
they'd have to quarantine for 2 weeks ;D
obviously "illegal aliens" don't follow the rules though ,but they use dinghies ,fishing boats etc .not space ships :P
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Don't tell me you've never seen a flying saucer..😁
We drink coffee from mugs here in middle earth ;) not cups and saucers
seen plenty of flying plates, ash trays, etc though ,been married 3 times :D
Me too! That wedding cake is firkin lovely, innit? ;D
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surely the Aliens won't attack earth an time soon :-\
they'd have to quarantine for 2 weeks ;D
obviously "illegal aliens" don't follow the rules though ,but they use dinghies ,fishing boats etc .not space ships :P
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Don't tell me you've never seen a flying saucer..😁
We drink coffee from mugs here in middle earth ;) not cups and saucers
seen plenty of flying plates, ash trays, etc though ,been married 3 times :D
Me too! That wedding cake is firkin lovely, innit? ;D
:D ;D
actually ... I've gone right off wedding cake these days :D
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surely the Aliens won't attack earth an time soon :-\
they'd have to quarantine for 2 weeks ;D
obviously "illegal aliens" don't follow the rules though ,but they use dinghies ,fishing boats etc .not space ships :P
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Don't tell me you've never seen a flying saucer..😁
We drink coffee from mugs here in middle earth ;) not cups and saucers
seen plenty of flying plates, ash trays, etc though ,been married 3 times :D
Me too! That wedding cake is firkin lovely, innit? ;D
:D ;D
actually ... I've gone right off wedding cake these days :D
I haven't if a gorgeous fit man comes with it!! ;D ;D ;D ;)
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The government seems pretty socialist at the moment. :)
Overwhelmingly so.
Well, apart from £16.5 billion extra for Defence............... 8) 8) :D :D ;)
all of which is to be spent on toys that don't yet exist. Standard right-wing ideology, hand out government money to your sponsors/old boy network for little quantifiable return
Thats nothing whatsoever to do with right or even left wing. Look back at Labours history of doing the same thing.
Anyone remember the new NHS computer system in the 90,s ?
It cost £12 billion of taxpayers money and was scrapped before it ever got anywhere near being up and running.
Countless more examples if you care to look for them.
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The government seems pretty socialist at the moment. :)
Overwhelmingly so.
Well, apart from £16.5 billion extra for Defence............... 8) 8) :D :D ;)
all of which is to be spent on toys that don't yet exist. Standard right-wing ideology, hand out government money to your sponsors/old boy network for little quantifiable return
Thats nothing whatsoever to do with right or even left wing. Look back at Labours history of doing the same thing.
Anyone remember the new NHS computer system in the 90,s ?
It cost £12 billion of taxpayers money and was scrapped before it ever got anywhere near being up and running.
Countless more examples if you care to look for them.
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It's only money 😄😄🚲
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The coronavirus pandemic 'great reset' theory and a false vaccine claim debunked https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55017002
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The coronavirus pandemic 'great reset' theory and a false vaccine claim debunked https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55017002
Well if there is a conspiracy then the BBC, Sky, CNN etc will be at the heart of it and will be busy putting out propaganda and misinformation. ::)
If you really want the truth, then the dark corners of YouTube are the place to look. :y
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It will be the first thing that they have fact checked this year :D
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It will be the first thing that they have fact checked this year :D
Donald is fact checked most days ::)
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It will be the first thing that they have fact checked this year :D
Who fact checks the Fact Checkers? :-X :)
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There's that... :D
Next time you go onto Faceachebook, have a look and see what Biden and Harris' profiles say... ;)
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There's that... :D
Next time you go onto Faceachebook, have a look and see what Biden and Harris' profiles say... ;)
Next time would be the first time. No thanks.
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It will be the first thing that they have fact checked this year :D
Who fact checks the Fact Checkers? :-X :)
Yeah, and who checks the fact check checker checkers? You could go on forever, that's Donald's plan.
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There's that... :D
Next time you go onto Faceachebook, have a look and see what Biden and Harris' profiles say... ;)
Next time would be the first time. No thanks.
We've that in common at least ;D
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To add to the tin hat theories,,seems very convenient that the vaccines have all been released at approximately the same time,, and about 12 months since batflu started in China
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To add to the tin hat theories, seems very convenient that the vaccines have all been released at approximately the same time,, and about 12 months since batflu started in China
Which does of course mean that Covid is actually a test for how a really effective man-made virus that makes your brain leak out your little toe nail could be used by the covert deep state survivalist economist Blairite conspiracy run out of Rupert Murdoch's desk drawer**
** not the top drawer though, as that would be ridiculous