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Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« on: 14 September 2013, 22:27:52 »

Been out this evening first time in the dark for a long time driving since i got the car (2002 3.2 Elite Saloon), Between 20:30 - 22:00 roughly visiting someone, I noticed the main beam is in the trees very high, Dip seems a little high also, Well they must be by the amount of times i got flashed must have got flashed 10 times... Took a few pictures of the main/dip head-on some trees in front, I'll upload later.

Question: I'm fairly new to HIDs, So i presume there is (1) levelling sensor on the front and (1) on the rear somewhere, I've seen the front one, Can't remember if i saw one each side or not  :-\ (will check).. No idea where the rear sensor is, Near the wishbone maybe ?, Is there a way to tell they are working the sensors ?

I have read, Well skimmed through a few threads over the years now and again that the problem normally is the adjusters, Are they inside the headlight unit itself ?, Is it a doable job ?, what parts are recommended ?, Price ?...

Anything else it could be ?

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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #1 on: 14 September 2013, 22:44:06 »

Unless that's how they are and being that the lenses are so clear the lights are very bright causing other's to flash maybe.   :-\





Also it did pass the MOT like this with no advisories few moths ago :-\
« Last Edit: 14 September 2013, 22:56:50 by Mr.OmegaMan »
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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #2 on: 14 September 2013, 23:15:45 »

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Anything else it could be ?
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If the adjusters were goosed, the whole reflector inside the headlamp will be free to move, can be checked if you remove the large black rubber cover.
There are manual adjusters on these lamps too

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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #3 on: 14 September 2013, 23:22:18 »

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Anything else it could be ?
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If the adjusters were goosed, the whole reflector inside the headlamp will be free to move, can be checked if you remove the large black rubber cover.
There are manual adjusters on these lamps too

The internals don't move around and the light on the road at any speed/surface doesn't wobble or shake just a little high, Main beam especially. Might not be adjusters then  :)

Will have a look under the rubber, Probably wont be tomorrow or Monday weather looks bad. If anything drivers side looks fine, Passenger side seems to be worst, Maybe a bulb not put in correctly or something.

Any chance it could be the front/rear sensors ?  :-\
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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #4 on: 14 September 2013, 23:36:41 »

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Any chance it could be the front/rear sensors ?  :-\

Could be, but they might just be manually set too high for some reason  :-\ :-\
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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #5 on: 14 September 2013, 23:53:26 »

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Any chance it could be the front/rear sensors ?  :-\

Could be, but they might just be manually set too high for some reason  :-\ :-\

Any special tool needed to adjust manually ?
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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #6 on: 14 September 2013, 23:56:36 »

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Any chance it could be the front/rear sensors ?  :-\

Could be, but they might just be manually set too high for some reason  :-\ :-\

Any special tool needed to adjust manually ?

Allen key  ;) Bear in mind it takes a good few turns to make an appreciable difference in the level of the beam
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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #7 on: 15 September 2013, 00:04:41 »

Thanks Andy, Much appreciated  :)

...Everyone else   :P ;D :-X
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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #8 on: 15 September 2013, 00:12:43 »

I bet your plastic adjusters have broken,  :-\ they get brittle and your lights move around inside there are aluminium upgrades available from a guy on here somewhere.
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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #9 on: 15 September 2013, 00:27:04 »

If there was a sensor fault the car would show "headlight field of vision" fault on the display. In the absence of that, it would appear the lights simply need adjusting.

But be carefull, they are extremely fragile. The last time I adjusted mine the the Allen key turned but wouldn't engage the cog at the rear, so had use that to adjust. (I'm not familiar with the internals)

Courtesy of Mr Dtm, there is a procedure to set the lights height. Iirc, involves a level flat drive way, and a garage door, or wall in front.
Drive up to the door within a foot. Mark the level of the light on the door with a bit of tape or whatever. Then reverse away 6-8ft or so. Then set the lights an inch below the mark.

Might take a couple of reat attempts to get your bearings so your happy. But it does work, provided the adjusters work of course.... ;)
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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #10 on: 15 September 2013, 00:34:30 »

There are two Allen key adjusters btw.


I'm not sure which is which.....  or what the other one does actually. Anyone?
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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #11 on: 15 September 2013, 00:46:24 »

There are two Allen key adjusters btw.


I'm not sure which is which.....  or what the other one does actually. Anyone?

Put your glasses on Chris  ;) ;) There are two circles on my picture  :y :y :y

I can't remember which is which, but there are only 2 of them  ::) :y :y
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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #12 on: 15 September 2013, 00:50:43 »

Outer adjuster for vertical and the inner one horizontal
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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #13 on: 15 September 2013, 01:07:05 »

Thanks Chris and Rob  :y, I like the garage idea although my drive ain't level enough, But there is a spot that is, I could park another car sideways in front or something..

What does everyone else make of the pictures of dip/main lights ?, Passenger side looks the worst to me, Drivers side looks about correct maybe a little high.

Presuming the adjusters are fine with a 190k on the clock it's doubtful probably very worn at the very least, How do I know the self levelling is working, Should I hear a motor sound as soon as I switch the lights on ?

Also I'd like to ask, Being new to HIDs I'm not familiar with the reactions of other drives, Dont see many car with HIDs around here, Do you find personally when driving a Vehicle with HIDs that you get flashed now and again ?, Sometimes I find 4x4s with HIDs do tend to blind a little more than cars.

While driving last night I could see the oncoming drivers faces lighting up and their glasses shinning back mainly on hills up/down, corners, junctions etc... Cars in front dipping their interior mirrors  :-X
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Re: Self Leveling HIDs on Elite FL Omega..
« Reply #14 on: 15 September 2013, 01:10:26 »

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What does everyone else make of the pictures of dip/main lights ?, Passenger side looks the worst to me, Drivers side looks about correct maybe a little high. ....

Agreed. Driver's side looks to about right, but your passenger light looks to be searching out passing aircraft!  ;) ;) ;)
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