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[STEMO]

Comparing the Birmingham not so stealth tax with London, the difference is, in London, you need to move around, sometimes that is by car. If you live around Birmingham, you can choose to go somewhere else and it's not a massive inconvenience. The audience up here is no where near as captive. Also, people are tighter with money up here.

Why pay the council £8 to drive on the roads you already pay for when you can go to Solihull and basically get a free lunch on the money you saved.

I don't think northerners will accept it anywhere near as much as London did and I really hope that is the case, before we see this everywhere.

And the further north you go, the tighter people become.

[scimmy_man]

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[ronnyd]

Comparing the Birmingham not so stealth tax with London, the difference is, in London, you need to move around, sometimes that is by car. If you live around Birmingham, you can choose to go somewhere else and it's not a massive inconvenience. The audience up here is no where near as captive. Also, people are tighter with money up here.

Why pay the council £8 to drive on the roads you already pay for when you can go to Solihull and basically get a free lunch on the money you saved.

I don't think northerners will accept it anywhere near as much as London did and I really hope that is the case, before we see this everywhere.

And the further north you go, the tighter people become.

Which is further north, Barnsley or Liverpool.  Just asking.

[Nick W]

Comparing the Birmingham not so stealth tax with London, the difference is, in London, you need to move around, sometimes that is by car. If you live around Birmingham, you can choose to go somewhere else and it's not a massive inconvenience. The audience up here is no where near as captive. Also, people are tighter with money up here.

Why pay the council £8 to drive on the roads you already pay for when you can go to Solihull and basically get a free lunch on the money you saved.

I don't think northerners will accept it anywhere near as much as London did and I really hope that is the case, before we see this everywhere.

And the further north you go, the tighter people become.

Which is further north, Barnsley or Liverpool.  Just asking.

Distance is irrelevant once you pass Watford Gap

[TheBoy]

If Birmingham really wanted clean air they should work with the government to stop the terrible congestion that brings both the M6, especially at the junction of the M5, and the M42 to frequent standstills.

The hours I have wasted sitting still on those roads over many years.......!!!

I'm guessing you haven't been that way for years

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

If people wanted to live in clean fresh fragrant air, I would guess that they wouldnt live in Birmingham. 

[redelitev6]

I can well imagine Newcastle City council trying something like this 

[New POD]

My son works for PWC in the city centre. Part of his work requires him to go to client sites to do auditing.  If hes not he cycles down a canel tow path. He has an immaculate W reg 21.5 year old Astra with only 65k on the clock. Up to now he's been happy to use his own car because the 45p a mile pays for the running costs on his car. It's a bit shite really.