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ok not good........update!
« on: 22 March 2008, 10:51:19 »

ok well the weather is positively c**p and cant get out to work on my motor or wash it.

so while i was out i though sod it ill run the car through the car wash.
big mistake......(i dont normally do it .....and you can tell me off later)

anyhow in the car wash i could hear running / dripping water inside the car. looked to see if one of the windows were open.....No. then moved the shopping in the foot well. to find yes you guessed it. water running in behind the glove box. gutted.

ok its never done it before. is it just something as simple as the drain is bloked???????.....is their a drain on the passenger side if so how do i get to it.  OR is it something worse?

i have tried to search for this problem already but the search on OOF doent seam to want to work for me. :(

i am about ready to  :'( :'( :'( this car is pushin me to my limits. if i mention the snags to the hubby he gets pi**ed cos its one thing after another.
how much more money am i going to have to put into this car????

HELP!!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: 22 March 2008, 10:54:46 »

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« Reply #2 on: 22 March 2008, 11:28:22 »

Dead easy one, surprised you got caught by it actualy.

Not sure if there is a guide with pics but, might need to create one.
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« Reply #3 on: 22 March 2008, 11:33:28 »

you will just have to clear the mess up before hubby sees it ,what the eye doesnt see etc;  ;) :)
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« Reply #4 on: 22 March 2008, 11:40:44 »

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you will just have to clear the mess up before hubby sees it ,what the eye doesnt see etc;  ;) :)

i told him. he doesnt understand how if the scuttle is bloked how it gets into the car?

hes told me to get out their and fix it! but its blowing a gale. he said he dont care! fix it!

what he doent know is i need to clean the breathers and replace the cam cover gasket too. thats why i am waiting for a good spell in the weather. he does know that i need to change the engine oil which is my cover as to why i am out with the car for so long! ;D ;D ;D ;D their are a few other little jobs i am going to do to. like grease the doors!


the only reason i got caught out Mark by the leak was cos he was cleaning out the drians and i had assumed he had done the scuttle........obviously not! :( >:(
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« Reply #5 on: 22 March 2008, 11:54:40 »

Take some pictures Marie so we can create a guide :y
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« Reply #6 on: 22 March 2008, 11:55:48 »

Its normally a late autumn/early winter problem due to leaves, or late spring due to blossom...
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« Reply #7 on: 22 March 2008, 12:09:11 »

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Its normally a late autumn/early winter problem due to leaves, or late spring due to blossom...

ok i recon its bloked ! easy fix will take the camara out with me.

suppose if i had not used the car wash i wouldnt of figured out that the scuttle was bloked.

as soon as i have finished my paperwork ill be all over it like a rash!
quick question on a 2ltr the only spares needed todo the cam cover gasket is the cam cover gasket.

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« Reply #8 on: 22 March 2008, 13:23:22 »

ok so mother nature has spoken..................

i wont be sorting the motor out today as its hailin now. :( :( :(
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« Reply #9 on: 22 March 2008, 13:42:29 »

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Its normally a late autumn/early winter problem due to leaves, or late spring due to blossom...

ok i recon its bloked ! easy fix will take the camara out with me.

suppose if i had not used the car wash i wouldnt of figured out that the scuttle was bloked.

as soon as i have finished my paperwork ill be all over it like a rash!
quick question on a 2ltr the only spares needed todo the cam cover gasket is the cam cover gasket.

Let it be a lesson to check it weekly along with all the other underbonnet checks :P
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« Reply #10 on: 22 March 2008, 13:46:59 »

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Its normally a late autumn/early winter problem due to leaves, or late spring due to blossom...

ok i recon its bloked ! easy fix will take the camara out with me.

suppose if i had not used the car wash i wouldnt of figured out that the scuttle was bloked.

as soon as i have finished my paperwork ill be all over it like a rash!
quick question on a 2ltr the only spares needed todo the cam cover gasket is the cam cover gasket.

Let it be a lesson to check it weekly along with all the other underbonnet checks :P

see thats where the weekly checks i always tend to miss bits. someone needs to make up a weekly check list of what i should be checkin.
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« Reply #11 on: 22 March 2008, 16:24:11 »

Weekly check - my starter for ten is POWER

Petrol (is there enough to get you over the weekend and to and from work on Monday)
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Water (coolant level and washer bottle)
Electrics (are all your lights working, could also include periodic check of alternator belts)
Rubber (all 5 tyre pressures and any obvious signs of distress)

... and then all fluids like brake hydraulics, ATF etc

I do the above every day, of course, without fail  ;)
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« Reply #12 on: 22 March 2008, 21:17:49 »

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quick question on a 2ltr the only spares needed todo the cam cover gasket is the cam cover gasket.


You also need O rings for the camcover and a tube of BLACK sealant.
Keep spare gaskets for the throttlebody and IACV in stock, then theres no excuse for not cleaning the throttle body or having idling problems.
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« Reply #13 on: 22 March 2008, 21:25:26 »

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quick question on a 2ltr the only spares needed todo the cam cover gasket is the cam cover gasket.


You also need O rings for the camcover and a tube of BLACK sealant.
Keep spare gaskets for the throttlebody and IACV in stock, then theres no excuse for not cleaning the throttle body or having idling problems.


Why the black sealant when i done mine i didnt use any and haven't had any leaks and that was about 3 years ago and using a unipart gasket.  Im not sayin you shouldn't or dont have to just wondering if i done something wrong.
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« Reply #14 on: 22 March 2008, 21:39:45 »

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quick question on a 2ltr the only spares needed todo the cam cover gasket is the cam cover gasket.


You also need O rings for the camcover and a tube of BLACK sealant.
Keep spare gaskets for the throttlebody and IACV in stock, then theres no excuse for not cleaning the throttle body or having idling problems.

2.0Lit not V6 - Black sealant not req'd.
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« Reply #15 on: 22 March 2008, 21:52:33 »

now i am pi**ed i have the gasket but no O rings...... and nowhere is open now until tuesday and the hubby needs the car tuesday to drive to london.

looks like i wont be doing the cam cover then :( :( :( :( :(
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2.0Lit not V6 - Black sealant not req'd.

In Best Pantomime Voice...

Oh Yes It Is.

You need a smear at the corners of the 'D's and either side of the front bearing caps where the seal has to transition from the head to the bearing cap.
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« Reply #17 on: 22 March 2008, 21:57:05 »

and i cant find my tube of gasket sealent.......and i dont know anybody who would have some to who lives close by.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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« Reply #18 on: 22 March 2008, 21:58:33 »

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and i cant find my tube of gasket sealent.......and i dont know anybody who would have some to who lives close by.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I have some black, but wouldn't even leave the postbox before Tuesday  :'(
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« Reply #19 on: 22 March 2008, 22:01:59 »

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and i cant find my tube of gasket sealent.......and i dont know anybody who would have some to who lives close by.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I have some black, but wouldn't even leave the postbox before Tuesday  :'(

but if you drove down it would be here tomorrow ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
you could bring your tech 2 and reprograme my key for me to at the same time;D ;D ;D ;D their is a cupa in it for you :) :) :) :) :-*
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and i cant find my tube of gasket sealent.......and i dont know anybody who would have some to who lives close by.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I have some black, but wouldn't even leave the postbox before Tuesday  :'(

but if you drove down it would be here tomorrow ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
you could bring your tech 2 and reprograme my key for me to at the same time;D ;D ;D ;D their is a cupa in it for you :) :) :) :) :-*
I could...   ...obviously more chance of you winning the lotto tonight...
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« Reply #21 on: 22 March 2008, 22:06:20 »

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and i cant find my tube of gasket sealent.......and i dont know anybody who would have some to who lives close by.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


I think ive got a tube.  I'll have a look tomorrow morning if its any help.  Ive also got a box of assorted orings if they are any good.
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and i cant find my tube of gasket sealent.......and i dont know anybody who would have some to who lives close by.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I have some black, but wouldn't even leave the postbox before Tuesday  :'(

but if you drove down it would be here tomorrow ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
you could bring your tech 2 and reprograme my key for me to at the same time;D ;D ;D ;D their is a cupa in it for you :) :) :) :) :-*
I could...   ...obviously more chance of you winning the lotto tonight...

really if i won the lotto i wouldnt worry about the motor.

and i thought you liked me.......obviously not enough to drive to my house :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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and i cant find my tube of gasket sealent.......and i dont know anybody who would have some to who lives close by.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I have some black, but wouldn't even leave the postbox before Tuesday  :'(

but if you drove down it would be here tomorrow ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
you could bring your tech 2 and reprograme my key for me to at the same time;D ;D ;D ;D their is a cupa in it for you :) :) :) :) :-*
I could...   ...obviously more chance of you winning the lotto tonight...

really if i won the lotto i wouldnt worry about the motor.

and i thought you liked me.......obviously not enough to drive to my house :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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« Reply #24 on: 22 March 2008, 22:12:01 »

If it was warmer, I'd consider taking the Kawasaki for a blat - you are probably around an hour, maybe 1:15 away I guess  :-/
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If it was warmer, I'd consider taking the Kawasaki for a blat - you are probably around an hour, maybe 1:15 away I guess  :-/

see its not that far and your bike could do with a blast. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
killin 2 bird with one stone ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #26 on: 22 March 2008, 22:17:44 »

The rac says its 100 miles. from front door to front door. its said to use the a34 but the m40 m25 m27 would be quicker. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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If it was warmer, I'd consider taking the Kawasaki for a blat - you are probably around an hour, maybe 1:15 away I guess  :-/

see its not that far and your bike could do with a blast. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
killin 2 bird with one stone ;D ;D ;D
it only comes out in nice weather - its a beast in the dry, but turns into a rather nasty monster in the wet.  It has already tried to hurt me (and succeeded  :-[).

Plus I'd freeze my nuts off!
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The rac says its 100 miles. from front door to front door. its said to use the a34 but the m40 m25 m27 would be quicker. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Nah, by time I get near M3 going around motorway, I'd be near Southampton going done A34
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« Reply #29 on: 22 March 2008, 22:22:19 »

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The rac says its 100 miles. from front door to front door. its said to use the a34 but the m40 m25 m27 would be quicker. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quicker if you're bouncing off the rev limiter all the way, perhaps. :o

It underestimates the A34 I think.

I have a tube of sealant, btw. Can't do the delivery service as Oro is coming round for a cam cover gasket change tomorrow.

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If it was warmer, I'd consider taking the Kawasaki for a blat - you are probably around an hour, maybe 1:15 away I guess  :-/

see its not that far and your bike could do with a blast. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
killin 2 bird with one stone ;D ;D ;D
it only comes out in nice weather - its a beast in the dry, but turns into a rather nasty monster in the wet.  It has already tried to hurt me (and succeeded  :-[).

Plus I'd freeze my nuts off!

its ok for your nuts ill let you off... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D. it can wait its not leaking that bad only on long journeys can you smell the burning oil and the leak is neglible just wanted to get the job out the way.

i have enough small jobs topping up. including lookin at removing the gearbox yet again. :(
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The rac says its 100 miles. from front door to front door. its said to use the a34 but the m40 m25 m27 would be quicker. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quicker if you're bouncing off the rev limiter all the way, perhaps. :o

It underestimates the A34 I think.

I have a tube of sealant, btw. Can't do the delivery service as Oro is coming round for a cam cover gasket change tomorrow.

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If it was warmer, I'd consider taking the Kawasaki for a blat - you are probably around an hour, maybe 1:15 away I guess  :-/

see its not that far and your bike could do with a blast. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
killin 2 bird with one stone ;D ;D ;D
it only comes out in nice weather - its a beast in the dry, but turns into a rather nasty monster in the wet.  It has already tried to hurt me (and succeeded  :-[).

Plus I'd freeze my nuts off!

its ok for your nuts ill let you off... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D. it can wait its not leaking that bad only on long journeys can you smell the burning oil and the leak is neglible just wanted to get the job out the way.

i have enough small jobs topping up. including lookin at removing the gearbox yet again. :(
My nuts thank you ;D
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« Reply #33 on: 22 March 2008, 22:32:15 »

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and i cant find my tube of gasket sealent.......and i dont know anybody who would have some to who lives close by.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


I think ive got a tube.  I'll have a look tomorrow morning if its any help.  Ive also got a box of assorted orings if they are any good.
lee

that would be great  :) :) and your not to far from me ether. let me know what you find. cheers if not ill just have to try and cram it in next weekend but i am ment to be playin vollyball for the royal navy
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« Reply #34 on: 22 March 2008, 22:35:10 »

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and i cant find my tube of gasket sealent.......and i dont know anybody who would have some to who lives close by.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


I think ive got a tube.  I'll have a look tomorrow morning if its any help.  Ive also got a box of assorted orings if they are any good.
lee

that would be great  :) :) and your not to far from me ether. let me know what you find. cheers if not ill just have to try and cram it in next weekend but i am ment to be playin vollyball for the royal navy

I'll have a look as soon as i get up and let you know.
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« Reply #35 on: 22 March 2008, 22:36:38 »

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and i cant find my tube of gasket sealent.......and i dont know anybody who would have some to who lives close by.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(



I think ive got a tube.  I'll have a look tomorrow morning if its any help.  Ive also got a box of assorted orings if they are any good.
lee

that would be great  :) :) and your not to far from me ether. let me know what you find. cheers if not ill just have to try and cram it in next weekend but i am ment to be playin vollyball for the royal navy

I'll have a look as soon as i get up and let you know.
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« Reply #36 on: 23 March 2008, 11:07:29 »

OK so this will be the 3rd time i have tried to post this. first time my son turn the computer off. second time the computer turned it self off.

any how 0800 this morning i was out on the car to check on the scuttle

well you were right guys the scuttle was bloked.
the picture says it all.


the easyest way to get the water out of their was you suck it out...YUCk


ok so now i got my arm in there ....it just fitted. and got out all the rotten dead leaves.



ran some clean water through the scuttle to wash it out and hey presto a cleaner scuttle.


And the moral of this story is never asume the hubby has done something. always double check that it has been done. ;D ;D ;D ;D
OR Better still do it yourself in the first place then you know that it has defo been done. ;D ;D ;D

cos of the weather this and clean out the breathers is al i ahve been able to do as it started to rain on me.  :'( :'(

tomorrow check the gearbox level and do an oil change. thats if the weather holds out for me.
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« Reply #37 on: 23 March 2008, 11:23:37 »

A Job well done Marie :y
Looks like you have a little more room to do the Scuttle Drain on a 2.0...
On a 2.5 and 3.0 you have the Pollen Filter to get your arm past, which is a bit of a struggle (I felt like James Herriott ;D) plus the rubber drain isn't in the same place its more to the front at the bottom if that makes any sense...
Unless I am looking at your picture wrong... :-?
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« Reply #38 on: 23 March 2008, 11:27:50 »

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A Job well done Marie :y
Looks like you have a little more room to do the Scuttle Drain on a 2.0...
On a 2.5 and 3.0 you have the Pollen Filter to get your arm past, which is a bit of a struggle (I felt like James Herriott ;D) plus the rubber drain isn't in the same place its more to the front at the bottom if that makes any sense...
Unless I am looking at your picture wrong... :-?
2.0 is same setup, and pollen filter can be seen in piccies.

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« Reply #39 on: 23 March 2008, 11:36:04 »

The pollen filter is in the same place it had been removed so i could dry it out. its on the rad in the kicthen at the mo.

LK would never get his arms down that whole it was tight for my sinny arms....i actually had to twist it funny to get it in the whole.and i got it suck at one point to. ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #40 on: 23 March 2008, 11:42:27 »

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The pollen filter is in the same place it had been removed so i could dry it out. its on the rad in the kicthen at the mo.

LK would never get his arms down that whole it was tight for my sinny arms....i actually had to twist it funny to get it in the whole.and i got it suck at one point to. ;D ;D ;D

I honestly can't see the Pollen Filter Holder :-[

And I looked like I had been fighting a Werewolf when i managed to free my arm >:(
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« Reply #41 on: 23 March 2008, 11:43:25 »

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A Job well done Marie :y
Looks like you have a little more room to do the Scuttle Drain on a 2.0...
On a 2.5 and 3.0 you have the Pollen Filter to get your arm past, which is a bit of a struggle (I felt like James Herriott ;D) plus the rubber drain isn't in the same place its more to the front at the bottom if that makes any sense...
Unless I am looking at your picture wrong... :-?
2.0 is same setup, and pollen filter can be seen in piccies.

All I can say LK - "lose some rather weight!" ;D

Its dropping off me, I am a Shadow of my Former Self ;)
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« Reply #42 on: 23 March 2008, 11:45:18 »

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The pollen filter is in the same place it had been removed so i could dry it out. its on the rad in the kicthen at the mo.

LK would never get his arms down that whole it was tight for my sinny arms....i actually had to twist it funny to get it in the whole.and i got it suck at one point to. ;D ;D ;D
They are a fiver + VAT for prefacelift ones on TC, so worth just renewing (should be changed annually anyway).
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« Reply #43 on: 23 March 2008, 11:52:00 »

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The pollen filter is in the same place it had been removed so i could dry it out. its on the rad in the kicthen at the mo.

LK would never get his arms down that whole it was tight for my sinny arms....i actually had to twist it funny to get it in the whole.and i got it suck at one point to. ;D ;D ;D

I honestly can't see the Pollen Filter Holder :-[

And I looked like I had been fighting a Werewolf when i managed to free my arm >:(

its in the top picture. it helps if you open your eyes ;D ;D ;D ;D look harder....the filter is  not fitted buy the way but you can clearly see the holder!
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« Reply #44 on: 23 March 2008, 11:53:03 »

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OK so this will be the 3rd time i have tried to post this. first time my son turn the computer off. second time the computer turned it self off.

any how 0800 this morning i was out on the car to check on the scuttle

well you were right guys the scuttle was bloked.
the picture says it all.


the easyest way to get the water out of their was you suck it out...YUCk


ok so now i got my arm in there ....it just fitted. and got out all the rotten dead leaves.



ran some clean water through the scuttle to wash it out and hey presto a cleaner scuttle.


And the moral of this story is never asume the hubby has done something. always double check that it has been done. ;D ;D ;D ;D
OR Better still do it yourself in the first place then you know that it has defo been done. ;D ;D ;D

cos of the weather this and clean out the breathers is al i ahve been able to do as it started to rain on me.  :'( :'(

tomorrow check the gearbox level and do an oil change. thats if the weather holds out for me.


Blimey!

You've done well in one morning to do that and the breathers, especially in the cold.

How long does cleaning the breathers out on a V6 take?
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« Reply #45 on: 23 March 2008, 12:04:17 »

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OK so this will be the 3rd time i have tried to post this. first time my son turn the computer off. second time the computer turned it self off.

any how 0800 this morning i was out on the car to check on the scuttle

well you were right guys the scuttle was bloked.
the picture says it all.


the easyest way to get the water out of their was you suck it out...YUCk


ok so now i got my arm in there ....it just fitted. and got out all the rotten dead leaves.



ran some clean water through the scuttle to wash it out and hey presto a cleaner scuttle.


And the moral of this story is never asume the hubby has done something. always double check that it has been done. ;D ;D ;D ;D
OR Better still do it yourself in the first place then you know that it has defo been done. ;D ;D ;D

cos of the weather this and clean out the breathers is al i ahve been able to do as it started to rain on me.  :'( :'(

tomorrow check the gearbox level and do an oil change. thats if the weather holds out for me.


Blimey!

You've done well in one morning to do that and the breathers, especially in the cold.

How long does cleaning the breathers out on a V6 take?

Donno i have a 2ltr. i am sure the guys will be able to tell you.

i couldnt do a complete clean of the breathers cos of the weather but mangaged to do the breather hoses and the air tube that was goppin. hubby went mentle at me when i walked in the house with a loads of bits. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

it was biterly cold back out tomorrow to do an oil change and top the gearbox back up again cos the hubby wants the car to go back and forth to london next week.
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« Reply #46 on: 23 March 2008, 20:30:24 »

I find a VAX is excellent for emptying the scuttle area
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« Reply #47 on: 23 March 2008, 20:34:43 »

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Personally (on the 1 occasion its happened ;)), I just stuck my hand in the water to clear it out ;D
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« Reply #48 on: 23 March 2008, 21:57:32 »

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« Reply #49 on: 24 March 2008, 09:40:41 »

When I did mine the grommet pushed out of the bottom and I didn't replace it. No chance of blockage now, and no problems with water from below. Confine it to the dustbin, Marie. (Or your diddy box).
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« Reply #50 on: 24 March 2008, 10:49:53 »

I work from the drain end.....under the wheel arch on early cars, in the engine bay on later ones.

On the V6, access is improved to the engine bay one by removing the oil filler, then its dead easy.....poke your finger up it (the scuttle drain!) and pour water into the scuttle to flush it.

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