the debate tonight on bbc 2 was about retired peoples pensions and benefits i am 68 and the huge amount of cash it takes to keep the system going and how can we as a country save money....Are all politicians mad....crazy...thick....or all of those.......when i was 60 years of age and working self employed selling tools and garage equipment and not doing too badly at it and i earnt a reasonable living out of it.....Along they came and gave me £200 winter fuel allowance to help with the heating.. ...hang on i and thousands of others of the same age are still earning a living.......i did not need it.....why not pay it when you retire at 65...so there is a small fortune saved there.....and also if you retire to live in warmer climates,,,,ie...spain they still pay it to you.....for god sake why..it is madness......the goverment say that they cant devise a system to take it back so it is easier to let them have it.....however if you are in receipt of mobility allowance because you are disabled if you go to spain to retire..you loose it because they stop it.....so if the system works for one benefit why cant it work for both.....i hate to think of the money they would save if they sorted just those two things out...and thats without all the rich dodging the tax system by putting money abroad....we just cant win