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Title: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 08 August 2016, 09:11:36
Many here are facing it, there has been several topics on it. Some have gone Jag, BMW or Lexus routes....

What other options are there? A budget of around £5-6k ish, less than 100k miles and diesel auto are my key requirements.

With nice optional extra's being Xenon lights, Sat Nav and leather...

As per previous thread, my hunting ground is:

1) CLS 320 Diesel
2) Volvo S80
3) Volvo V70

300C's been discounted as just too American and not keen on the Interior. Don't want E Class, 3/5/7 Series Beemers. Audi's in my budget are generally star ship miles.

That said A8's around 2004-6 ish the 3.0/4.2 diesels are within budget. But think they will be pricey to fix/run  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 08 August 2016, 09:18:37
Lexus. Built like Mercedes used to be built and lots of toys.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 08 August 2016, 09:27:04
Lexus. Built like Mercedes used to be built and lots of toys.

Except the too small IS 220, no diesels, so no good  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 08 August 2016, 09:29:04
Oh another requirement is must have comfy seats!

So that rules out most VW  ;D

Speaking of VW, Phaeton's are nice but stupid tax rates and terrible on fuel, even the diesels.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mister Rog on 08 August 2016, 09:29:30
I've just got an XC70 D5 Auto Est. In your budget, 91k miles. Got the "big car" feel to it, the AWD helps. Rear load area just a little bit on the small side compared with an Omega Est, but not dramatically so. Plenty of power, seems to do what I want when I want. Better MPG than my 3.2 MV6. Some diesel type noise. Nice "solid" feel, you know doors that go "thunk" instead of "clang". Good sound system (HU850). A couple of great toys, headlights adjustable for driving abroad ! Cool. When open drivers door the seat auomatically moves back to give you more space to get in. Maybe this stuff is normal now in cars at this level, but they are new to me  :y I do prefer the more upright driving position of the Omega, I've fiddled endlessly with the seat settings and not got it all quite right.

So far, very happy. . . . . but the MV6 is still sitting in my drive in case I change my mind. Very unlikely though.

PS: I bought it from my mechanic who thought it was a bit dull to drive. I do see what he means. It's not exactly dull, but it does not drive say like a BMW or a hot hatch, or even like my MV6, just a nice steady motorway cruiser. And yes, it is very comfy  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 08 August 2016, 09:33:55
I've just got an XC70 D5 Auto Est. In your budget, 91k miles. Got the "big car" feel to it, the AWD helps. Rear load area just a little bit on the small side compared with an Omega Est, but not dramatically so. Plenty of power, seems to do what I want when I want. Better MPG than my 3.2 MV6. Some diesel type noise. Nice "solid" feel, you know doors that go "thunk" instead of "clang". Good sound system (HU850). A couple of great toys, headlights adjustable for driving abroad ! Cool. When open drivers door the seat auomatically moves back to give you more space to get in. Maybe this stuff is normal now in cars at this level, but they are new to me  :y I do prefer the more upright driving position of the Omega, I've fiddled endlessly with the seat settings and not got it all quite right.

So far, very happy. . . . . but the MV6 is still sitting in my drive in case I change my mind. Very unlikely though.

Thanks  :y

As per another thread I tried a V70 straight after a CLS, expecting not to be impressed but I was. Super, Super comfy seats, loads of standard kit such as memory seats. Rougher than V6 CLS, no way near as refined, but to be fair to the D5 it was stone cold when I started it, the CLS arrived warm. I think I need to drive a V70...

What do you get average out of it fuel wise?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mister Rog on 08 August 2016, 09:39:17
I've just got an XC70 D5 Auto Est. In your budget, 91k miles. Got the "big car" feel to it, the AWD helps. Rear load area just a little bit on the small side compared with an Omega Est, but not dramatically so. Plenty of power, seems to do what I want when I want. Better MPG than my 3.2 MV6. Some diesel type noise. Nice "solid" feel, you know doors that go "thunk" instead of "clang". Good sound system (HU850). A couple of great toys, headlights adjustable for driving abroad ! Cool. When open drivers door the seat auomatically moves back to give you more space to get in. Maybe this stuff is normal now in cars at this level, but they are new to me  :y I do prefer the more upright driving position of the Omega, I've fiddled endlessly with the seat settings and not got it all quite right.

So far, very happy. . . . . but the MV6 is still sitting in my drive in case I change my mind. Very unlikely though.

Thanks  :y

As per another thread I tried a V70 straight after a CLS, expecting not to be impressed but I was. Super, Super comfy seats, loads of standard kit such as memory seats. Rougher than V6 CLS, no way near as refined, but to be fair to the D5 it was stone cold when I started it, the CLS arrived warm. I think I need to drive a V70...

What do you get average out of it fuel wise?

According to the computer thingy, around 44mpg diesel. Mate of mine has one and he recons 50+ but he really is a VERY boring driver  ;D With XC70 be aware that there are two engines 165 and 185 BHP, mine is 185. The XC70 is different to the V70, 4WD and higher suspension.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 08 August 2016, 10:01:35
Yeah, I'd be going for standard V70, so mid-40's with my driving style looks achievable.

Good to know.  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 August 2016, 15:10:38
See post in other thread re Volvos...

I expect you will be expensively disappointed, likewise Rog with an auto D5 and that mileage :-\

V70 with integrated child seats is a far better proposition than the CLS though ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 August 2016, 16:33:20
My Dad has a V70 D5 Auto and drives like miss daisy. He gets just over 40 MPG out of it. I think mid-40's would be optimistic.

It hasn't broken yet, but I'll keep you posted. ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 08 August 2016, 16:34:27
My Dad has a V70 D5 Auto and drives like miss daisy. He gets just over 40 MPG out of it. I think mid-40's would be optimistic.

It hasn't broken yet, but I'll keep you posted. ;)

Oh dear, CLS it is for me then.

BMW GS Bike to a Volvo Estate, is there any bigger fall.  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 08 August 2016, 16:34:52
I'd probably go S80, if going Volvo route.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 August 2016, 16:35:46
BMW GS Bike to a Volvo Estate, is there any bigger fall.  ;D

Well, if you're looking for suggestions... ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 August 2016, 16:39:22
BMW GS Bike to a Volvo Estate, is there any bigger fall.  ;D

Well, if you're looking for suggestions... ::)
Focus saloon... :D cheap, practical, nippy, relatively frugal...

Oh, and £500 with a years ticket... :-X
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 08 August 2016, 16:47:00
BMW GS Bike to a Volvo Estate, is there any bigger fall.  ;D

Well, if you're looking for suggestions... ::)
Focus saloon... :D cheap, practical, nippy, relatively frugal...

Oh, and £500 with a years ticket... :-X

Not sure I'm going to fall that far  :D  :P

At least the Volvo's have 5 pots  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 August 2016, 17:06:14
BMW GS Bike to a Volvo Estate, is there any bigger fall.  ;D

Well, if you're looking for suggestions... ::)
Focus saloon... :D cheap, practical, nippy, relatively frugal...

Oh, and £500 with a years ticket... :-X

Mrs KW's MX5 Mk2 is up for sale too. Faster than a 3.2 in a drag race. :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 08 August 2016, 17:08:25
BMW GS Bike to a Volvo Estate, is there any bigger fall.  ;D

Well, if you're looking for suggestions... ::)
Focus saloon... :D cheap, practical, nippy, relatively frugal...

Oh, and £500 with a years ticket... :-X

Mrs KW's MX5 Mk2 is up for sale too. Faster than a 3.2 in a drag race. :y

Nearly everything is faster than 3.2 really  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: ted_one on 08 August 2016, 17:24:04
The more people that are moving on to other cars is great,the more Omegas that go to the big scrap yard in the sky is the best thing that could happen..the rarity factor will certainly nudge them a bit closer to future classic status....looking forward to it :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 August 2016, 17:35:43
 ;D An optimistic to the bitter end...
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 08 August 2016, 17:39:36
The more people that are moving on to other cars is great,the more Omegas that go to the big scrap yard in the sky is the best thing that could happen..the rarity factor will certainly nudge them a bit closer to future classic status....looking forward to it :)

I personally believe the the Omega would never obtain true 'classic' status. There was never anything super special about them, just a bland but comfy cruiser, unlike say the Lotus Carlton. If they made the Omega MV8, I think that would of, as it would have been quite quick and little bit special.

I bet some people think the first generation Vectra might become a classic, when they all deserve the crusher!  ;D

What would this potential status bring anyway?  ???
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: X30XE on 08 August 2016, 19:24:30
Lexus. Built like Mercedes used to be built and lots of toys.

Not true at all. They suffer from all sorts of stupid failures (when was the last time you had to replace capacitors in the ECU of any other car ever??).  And because barely anybody was stupid enough to buy one new spare parts are either unobtainable or exorbitant.  LS400 ignition coils for example - £140 EACH. there are 8 of them!

Even in terms of basic ergonomic quality they're shit.  The Japanese don't get quality and never have. Just rubbish plastic everywhere.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: btc on 08 August 2016, 19:37:24
Lexus. Built like Mercedes used to be built and lots of toys.

Not true at all. They suffer from all sorts of stupid failures (when was the last time you had to replace capacitors in the ECU of any other car ever??).  And because barely anybody was stupid enough to buy one new spare parts are either unobtainable or exorbitant.  LS400 ignition coils for example - £140 EACH. there are 8 of them!

Even in terms of basic ergonomic quality they're shit.  The Japanese don't get quality and never have. Just rubbish plastic everywhere.
Strange my brother in laws has done 350k self serviced and never let him down no failures just normal wear and tear and I know of several owners who also done in excess of 250k with no major problems all cars have niggly faults including the omega
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 08 August 2016, 19:49:18
The more people that are moving on to other cars is great,the more Omegas that go to the big scrap yard in the sky is the best thing that could happen..the rarity factor will certainly nudge them a bit closer to future classic status....looking forward to it :)


Give them 15 years, and an Omega will be just like a VX4/90 is now: you'll see one(of the five left) and think wow, those used to everywhere, but the squirrel that just ran across in front of it was much more interesting!
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: citroenguy on 08 August 2016, 19:58:29
I'd buy a Volvo S80 since i don't like estates, and I fear that the merc could give your credit card a bad time.. plus prob worse mpg. Those S80's do look smart in go faster black 8) or the dark blue. And they seem to be pretty reliable, haven't heard any doom and gloom about them, some electrical glitches early on and a recall for some derv engines due to problems with too high oil levels in the sump because of fuel dilution, leading too an engine revving itself until it dies ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 08 August 2016, 21:29:21
I am now going more in favour of S80, the radar/active cruise is very appealing. More research suggests D5 is good lump taking big miles easy. Of course you don't know the previous owner, but that's an issue with any car.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: X30XE on 08 August 2016, 21:40:45
Lexus. Built like Mercedes used to be built and lots of toys.

Not true at all. They suffer from all sorts of stupid failures (when was the last time you had to replace capacitors in the ECU of any other car ever??).  And because barely anybody was stupid enough to buy one new spare parts are either unobtainable or exorbitant.  LS400 ignition coils for example - £140 EACH. there are 8 of them!

Even in terms of basic ergonomic quality they're shit.  The Japanese don't get quality and never have. Just rubbish plastic everywhere.
Strange my brother in laws has done 350k self serviced and never let him down no failures just normal wear and tear and I know of several owners who also done in excess of 250k with no major problems all cars have niggly faults including the omega

My nan's toaster lasted 20years... doesn't prove a thing.  Just because a handful of them have reached high mileage doesn't mean that they're designed well. 

I wouldn't call total failure of the ECU to chooch a "niggly fault" personally. 

Too each their own.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 09 August 2016, 00:04:12
But as stated before, I bet many forums would state Omega's were rubbish reliability wise with cam covers failing, HBV's going and nightmare to setup geo wise. That the 2.6's eat stem seals, the 2.2's crack their manifolds and 1998 3.0's eat their head gaskets.  :)

Any brand will have it's issues, it's faults, I don't think it's fair to plaster one with a big brush.

Except of course when they are French  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: X30XE on 09 August 2016, 00:17:09
I don't disagree. I'd never claim an Omega was reliable. 

What gets my goat is people going around stating non facts like "all volvos/lexus/vw/landrover/honda/toyota/yada yada yada are bombproof/bulletproof/will definitely do 1million miles on nothing other than services".

It's bullshit.  All cars are built to a cost compromise.  And many of the big brands are surviving on a horseshit reputation for reliability that is perpetuated by someone's mate down the pub who spouts shit all day whilst knowing nothing. 

# rant over 

Basically, get what you want to drive, not what you've persuaded yourself will be reliable through selective deafness (we all do it  :)).
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 09 August 2016, 07:55:38
;D An optimistic to the bitter end...

It's a fine line between "optimist" and "fantasist" ;) ;D

failure of the ECU to chooch

You either watch AvE or there are two people in the world using that word.. ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 09 August 2016, 09:24:30
I don't disagree. I'd never claim an Omega was reliable. 

What gets my goat is people going around stating non facts like "all volvos/lexus/vw/landrover/honda/toyota/yada yada yada are bombproof/bulletproof/will definitely do 1million miles on nothing other than services".

It's bullshit.  All cars are built to a cost compromise.  And many of the big brands are surviving on a horseshit reputation for reliability that is perpetuated by someone's mate down the pub who spouts shit all day whilst knowing nothing. 

# rant over 

Basically, get what you want to drive, not what you've persuaded yourself will be reliable through selective deafness (we all do it  :)).

Fully agree  :y :y

I think it's down to either a S80 or CLS for me now, the CLS (spec I want) is just slightly out of reach budget wise.  :(

Seen nice CLS but has 110k miles, that said the S80 I've spotted with active cruise has 93k which is not a million miles apart.

Volvo makes little more sense, more practical, indie garage just down the road. But does not get my 'heart/passion' going as much as CLS as each time I walk up to one I think it's a nice car. The Volvo would just be a tool, perhaps I might grow to like it looks wise. The Omega is no looker and I've had that 11 years  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 09 August 2016, 09:38:26
Volvo makes little more sense, more practical, indie garage just down the road. But does not get my 'heart/passion' going as much as CLS as each time I walk up to one I think it's a nice car. The Volvo would just be a tool, perhaps I might grow to like it

I've been having the same internal dilemma recently - as mentioned elsewhere I've been looking for something to make the commute cheaper (and to replace the Ranger .. which I will sorely miss); as I'm paying for the Ranger I've been looking at new cars (and actually at that mileage given older cars are in the 40mpg territory the maths favour new cars).

Sensible head: Nissan Note 1.5DCi, 63mpg on my commute (tested in my Dad's). Uncomfortable, dull, very practical.
Sensible head: Nissan Pulsar 1.5DCi, 58mpg on the commute. Bit more comfortable, less dull, very practical.
Heart: Skoda Superb Estate 2.0 TDi 190, low 50s on a commute, so very comfortable, just like the Omega, giant load space. Not so economical.

I think heart will win as I'll be spending 5hrs a day in it.. so I vote for the CLS and to hell with the practicalities! ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 09 August 2016, 10:10:49
Volvo makes little more sense, more practical, indie garage just down the road. But does not get my 'heart/passion' going as much as CLS as each time I walk up to one I think it's a nice car. The Volvo would just be a tool, perhaps I might grow to like it

I've been having the same internal dilemma recently - as mentioned elsewhere I've been looking for something to make the commute cheaper (and to replace the Ranger .. which I will sorely miss); as I'm paying for the Ranger I've been looking at new cars (and actually at that mileage given older cars are in the 40mpg territory the maths favour new cars).

Sensible head: Nissan Note 1.5DCi, 63mpg on my commute (tested in my Dad's). Uncomfortable, dull, very practical.
Sensible head: Nissan Pulsar 1.5DCi, 58mpg on the commute. Bit more comfortable, less dull, very practical.
Heart: Skoda Superb Estate 2.0 TDi 190, low 50s on a commute, so very comfortable, just like the Omega, giant load space. Not so economical.

I think heart will win as I'll be spending 5hrs a day in it.. so I vote for the CLS and to hell with the practicalities! ;)

Yes there is that, at the end of the day I will have to pay a garage for front suspension work on no matter what I get (wishbones etc) - I would still do basic service work, like oil changes, brake pads and filters. I'd rather pay the garage costs and get to drive the CLS and "feel" it's worth it, rather than the Volvo. As I don't think there will be a great deal of difference, as labour would be same at indies and not much in it parts wise, in-fact MB appear to be very good cost wise on parts.

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: ronnyd on 09 August 2016, 10:12:30
When your,e buying a used car of a "certain" vintage it,s the way that previous owners have looked after them. Must admit that my two Migs had long term owners that had things done at the right times by the right people and was able to verify that with them. With a multi owner car, (which most older ones now are), it,s just a lottery. Two identical cars, one looked after, one neglected, will not be the same reliability wise. Best of luck with the search though. :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 August 2016, 16:11:57
Volvo makes little more sense, more practical, indie garage just down the road. But does not get my 'heart/passion' going as much as CLS as each time I walk up to one I think it's a nice car. The Volvo would just be a tool, perhaps I might grow to like it

I've been having the same internal dilemma recently - as mentioned elsewhere I've been looking for something to make the commute cheaper (and to replace the Ranger .. which I will sorely miss); as I'm paying for the Ranger I've been looking at new cars (and actually at that mileage given older cars are in the 40mpg territory the maths favour new cars).

Sensible head: Nissan Note 1.5DCi, 63mpg on my commute (tested in my Dad's). Uncomfortable, dull, very practical.
Sensible head: Nissan Pulsar 1.5DCi, 58mpg on the commute. Bit more comfortable, less dull, very practical.
Heart: Skoda Superb Estate 2.0 TDi 190, low 50s on a commute, so very comfortable, just like the Omega, giant load space. Not so economical.

I think heart will win as I'll be spending 5hrs a day in it.. so I vote for the CLS and to hell with the practicalities! ;)

My......what a dull trio.

I'd rather hang myself, thanks. :-\ :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 09 August 2016, 16:12:50
I'm yet to sit in a VAG that's comfy too, I find all of the range have rock-hard seats.  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 09 August 2016, 16:14:12
I thought the Skoda (bear in mind it had the top of the range electric leather) had lovely soft seats, especially compared to anything in the lower end of the market.

Maybe not as soft as the seats in the Omega used to be, but then that had ~80k of arse under its belt..
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 09 August 2016, 16:18:15
As I've said before, an Omega replacement must be...

Badgeless (No real kudos to the name)
Solid build quality
Very available parts
Plenty about/choice of models

Has to be said, I'd agree, Skoda are close to the only choice. Very good cars. Being VWs, they're well engineered. If slightly amiss re: emissons  :y :D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 August 2016, 16:33:30
As I've said before, an Omega replacement must be...

Badgeless (No real kudos to the name)
Solid build quality
Very available parts
Plenty about/choice of models

Has to be said, I'd agree, Skoda are close to the only choice. Very good cars. Being VWs, they're well engineered. If slightly amiss re: emissons  :y :D
:-X
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: X30XE on 09 August 2016, 16:37:13
As I've said before, an Omega replacement must be...

Badgeless (No real kudos to the name)
Solid build quality
Very available parts
Plenty about/choice of models

Has to be said, I'd agree, Skoda are close to the only choice. Very good cars. Being VWs, they're well engineered. If slightly amiss re: emissons  :y :D
:-X

 :-X 

Throttle pedal assembly... that's £300 sir
Loom that connects throttle pedal to ecu/throttle.. that's £300 sir
Throttle body...  that's £300 sir...

Is anything not £300???  Well, I could tell you that sir... but... i'd have to charge you £300 for the priveledge.   ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 August 2016, 18:17:58
Injectors are £500... Each. ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TD on 09 August 2016, 18:51:53
I'm yet to sit in a VAG that's comfy too, I find all of the range have rock-hard seats.  :-\

That's the clue there.......just get a 5L Range Rover and forget the probably 10mpg  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: biggriffin on 09 August 2016, 19:27:12
I'm yet to sit in a VAG that's comfy too, I find all of the range have rock-hard seats.  :-\

That's the clue there.......just get a 5LRange rover   and forget the probably 10mpg  :y

And gas it :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 09 August 2016, 20:00:36
I'm yet to sit in a VAG that's comfy too, I find all of the range have rock-hard seats.  :-\

That's the clue there.......just get a 5LRange rover   and forget the probably 10mpg  :y


And gas it :)

My budget just gets crap Rangies, once you factor in an LPG cost. Even then with gas, the 3.2 would appear economical  :D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 09 August 2016, 20:10:46
I'm yet to sit in a VAG that's comfy too, I find all of the range have rock-hard seats.  :-\


I get that with Mercedes; the arse on the floor, legs straight out with the massive steering wheel in my lap driving position is atrocious
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 August 2016, 21:04:14
Fully electric seats are the way forward...

Have just found out that E38 18 way front seats bolt straight into the E39 :D

Just need to find a pair in blue :-X
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mister Rog on 09 August 2016, 21:14:07
Fully electric seats are the way forward...

Have just found out that E38 18 way front seats bolt straight into the E39 :D

Just need to find a pair in blue :-X

A bit off topic. But here we go again, constantly see cars referred to as W999 or E666 or something else that sounds like a food additive, and it seems to be completely impossible to translate these numbers into any vehicle that one sees advertised.

And, nobody has really explained how to do this translation. Surely there must be some kind of list somewhere ?


 
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: VXL V6 on 09 August 2016, 21:29:59
Fully electric seats are the way forward...

Have just found out that E38 18 way front seats bolt straight into the E39 :D

Just need to find a pair in blue :-X

A bit off topic. But here we go again, constantly see cars referred to as W999 or E666 or something else that sounds like a food additive, and it seems to be completely impossible to translate these numbers into any vehicle that one sees advertised.

And, nobody has really explained how to do this translation. Surely there must be some kind of list somewhere ?

Here you go https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_5_Series_(E39) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_5_Series_(E39))
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: YZ250 on 09 August 2016, 22:06:45
Fully electric seats are the way forward...

Have just found out that E38 18 way front seats bolt straight into the E39 :D

Just need to find a pair in blue :-X

A bit off topic. But here we go again, constantly see cars referred to as W999 or E666 or something else that sounds like a food additive, and it seems to be completely impossible to translate these numbers into any vehicle that one sees advertised.

And, nobody has really explained how to do this translation. Surely there must be some kind of list somewhere ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BMW_vehicles

List for the beemers.  :y  A quick search should find the Mercs easy enough.  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: X30XE on 09 August 2016, 22:17:43
Fully electric seats are the way forward...

Have just found out that E38 18 way front seats bolt straight into the E39 :D

Just need to find a pair in blue :-X

You mean like these...  :P

(http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt133/011011011/BMW%20740%20aka%20Sophie/5_zpsa6vk9vpz.jpg)

If I see a slimey creature with a ratchet wandering my property I'll know who it is  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: YZ250 on 09 August 2016, 22:22:18
Back on topic, very difficult to say what car as a replacement as we all like different things in life. A chap I work with has a VW Passat CC, which looks a nice enough car but many owners have reported gearbox problems. You could review the arse out of a car and still end up with a lemon. The problem with any reviews is that owners with issues are more likely to write up/complain than a happy customer.

See a car that takes your eye, check it out, buy it and enjoy.  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 09 August 2016, 22:37:55
Cheers  :y

Still S80 or CLS, have to see what's about at the end of the month  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: terry paget on 10 August 2016, 20:51:21
Fascinating thread. Maybe I am too easily pleased, or should get out more, but I can't see what is wrong with the Omega. It is large, quiet, comfortable, fast, reliable, cheap to buy and cheap to run.
In my first 40 motoring years I ran an assortment of small saloons, then family estates. When the family grew up I dabbled in luxury saloons, but found that most lacked the headroom I need, then I saw Quentin Wilson on Top Gear point 'what the boys in blue use for pursuit work is the 24 valve Vauxhall Senator'. He then visited a police garage and was told 'we change the brake pads every fortnight and the tyres every month. Nothing else goes wrong'. For the next 20 years I have run big Vauxhall saloons. I run them still.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 10 August 2016, 20:57:44
Fascinating thread. Maybe I am too easily pleased, or should get out more, but I can't see what is wrong with the Omega. It is large, quiet, comfortable, fast, reliable, cheap to buy and cheap to run.
In my first 40 motoring years I ran an assortment of small saloons, then family estates. When the family grew up I dabbled in luxury saloons, but found that most lacked the headroom I need, then I saw Quentin Wilson on Top Gear point 'what the boys in blue use for pursuit work is the 24 valve Vauxhall Senator'. He then visited a police garage and was told 'we change the brake pads every fortnight and the tyres every month. Nothing else goes wrong'. For the next 20 years I have run big Vauxhall saloons. I run them still.

After 11 years, time for a change. Perhaps if they were still being made and Vauxhall still made a cheap RWD saloon (forgetting VXR8) for a moment, I may have considered it.

I do still have the 3.2 Elite, which will continue to be the family bus. But for the commuting, no Omega's out there appeal any more.

Many years ago I almost bought a 3.0 MV6 Pre-Facelift in Blue, which was already LPG'd, thought about it but never did. If I saw another one of those in mint condition I might go for it.

But as the bike is going, want to get something different.  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 10 August 2016, 21:02:43
Fascinating thread. Maybe I am too easily pleased, or should get out more, but I can't see what is wrong with the Omega. It is large, quiet, comfortable, fast, reliable, cheap to buy and cheap to run.


It's old, and even good ones need money spent on them. Vauxhall's replacement isn't up to much(just like Ford with the Scorpio), and for me the big Volvo is the only one that has the same attributes of being comfortable, large, effortless, discreet, affordable and lacks the marketing wank of the German marques.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 10 August 2016, 21:30:53
Fascinating thread. Maybe I am too easily pleased, or should get out more, but I can't see what is wrong with the Omega. It is large, quiet, comfortable, fast, reliable, cheap to buy and cheap to run.


It's old, and even good ones need money spent on them. Vauxhall's replacement isn't up to much(just like Ford with the Scorpio), and for me the big Volvo is the only one that has the same attributes of being comfortable, large, effortless, discreet, affordable and lacks the marketing wank of the German marques.

I like the S80, one I've seen is in budget, under 100k miles. Sadly it's half the country away from me, I need to sit/drive something more local, as I've yet to sit in one.

S80 has some cool tech (least one one I've seen) such as Radar Cruise, but it will be a further depreciation hit, buying for £5k in a year or two I bet it's worth £2k. The CLS will hold it's value better.

The CLS for me, looks far better, it's got great driving position, loved centre console position, the dash layout.

I really need to drive an S80, otherwise I'm going in circles, as some reviews suggest a choppy ride at times in S80  :-\

Another factor is I will have to pay for suspension work on either, I'd do rear shocks but front's & wishbones I'd pay for. I'd rather take that hit on car I actually really like and love like the CLS, rather than S80. 
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: X30XE on 10 August 2016, 21:56:32
The only way to roll in an S80...

https://www.netcarshow.com/volvo/2007-s80_heico_concept/


When you wake up you will buy an CLS63 AMG *clicks fingers*
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 10 August 2016, 22:45:44
The only way to roll in an S80...

https://www.netcarshow.com/volvo/2007-s80_heico_concept/


When you wake up you will buy an CLS63 AMG *clicks fingers*

Love a CLS AMG. But not its fuel bill  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 11 August 2016, 09:58:41
I thought the Skoda (bear in mind it had the top of the range electric leather) had lovely soft seats, especially compared to anything in the lower end of the market.

Maybe not as soft as the seats in the Omega used to be, but then that had ~80k of arse under its belt..

Agreed, with work the airport taxi is either a Skoda Superb or an E class Merc, the Merc seats are dam right awful and uncomfortable, the Skoda is pretty dam good though.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 11 August 2016, 10:14:01
Agreed, with work the airport taxi is either a Skoda Superb or an E class Merc, the Merc seats are dam right awful and uncomfortable, the Skoda is pretty dam good though.

At least they're E classes - the norm out in Tel Aviv is C classes and I struggle to get [my fat ass] in and out of the back of those with the rake of the rear roofline.. :-[
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 August 2016, 10:31:23
Hummmm just on Auto Trader, Skoda Superb's are great value, not really considered these.  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 August 2016, 17:13:17
Fully electric seats are the way forward...

Have just found out that E38 18 way front seats bolt straight into the E39 :D

Just need to find a pair in blue :-X
Makes no difference if you're the only driver, as they never get moved.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 August 2016, 17:21:03
I'm following with interest, as I'm probably at the stage of HAVING to replace one of the Omegas...

...but bugger all out there. Zilch. Nothing.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TD on 11 August 2016, 17:41:23
I thought the Skoda (bear in mind it had the top of the range electric leather) had lovely soft seats, especially compared to anything in the lower end of the market.

Maybe not as soft as the seats in the Omega used to be, but then that had ~80k of arse under its belt..

Agreed, with work the airport taxi is either a Skoda Superb or an E class Merc, the Merc seats are dam right awful and uncomfortable, the Skoda is pretty dam good though.

Would that be the purpose built 'taxi' mercs with leatherette seats?  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 August 2016, 17:46:17
Reading through this makes me feel old. I remember Tunnie being the young lad on OOF, who TB constantly referred to as "the useless student".
Now his threads are about which family car is best.
They grow up so fast.  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 August 2016, 17:49:28
Reading through this makes me feel old. I remember Tunnie being the young lad on OOF, who TB constantly referred to as "the useless student".
Now his threads are about which family car is best.
They grow up so fast.  ;D
He'll always be a useless student ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 August 2016, 17:50:13
I'm following with interest, as I'm probably at the stage of HAVING to replace one of the Omegas...

...but bugger all out there. Zilch. Nothing.

If your minded to buy something a lot newer than the newest Omegas, then you will really struggle.
There is no equivalent.
Possibly a near top of the range Merc, that's a few years old and lost much of its value ?
Cant think of much else tbh. :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 August 2016, 17:51:21
Reading through this makes me feel old. I remember Tunnie being the young lad on OOF, who TB constantly referred to as "the useless student".
Now his threads are about which family car is best.
They grow up so fast.  ;D
He'll always be a useless student ;D

He wont live that down until your pushing up daisies.  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 August 2016, 17:58:57
Possibly a near top of the range Merc, that's a few years old and lost much of its value ?
Cant think of much else tbh. :-\
And TBH, I think I'm more like to be boiling my testicles before buying a non classic Merc, as sadly they are built rather than designed now.


I need RWD (for comfort), good economy (140 mile round trip commute), enough power not to be frustrating, and cheap because I'm a pauper ;D

Sadly, unlike tunnie, I would realise the benefits of diesel on my commute :(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 August 2016, 19:45:36
One of my cars fulfils all your criteria apart from one.
Its a classic Merc.
Its RWD.
Economy varies between equivalent to 110mpg and infinite mpg.
I paid £350 for it  - but had to spend the same again to get it roadworthy.




Its pitifully slow.  :D............It was alleged to possess 90 horses 26 years and 226,000 miles ago. ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 August 2016, 19:47:17
One of my cars fulfils all your criteria apart from one.
Its a classic Merc.
Its RWD.
Economy varies between equivalent to 110mpg and infinite mpg.
I paid £350 for it  - but had to spend the same again to get it roadworthy.




Its pitifully slow.  :D............It was alleged to possess 90 horses 26 years and 226,000 miles ago. ;D
And smells like The Happy Fryer ?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 August 2016, 19:51:53
Yep. Its hilarious to sit at the lights and look in the rear view mirror to see the bloke behind ask his missus "whats that rather smell ?"  ;D
It will do 75mph all day long, so the secret is to get it up there and then don't slow, down come hell or high water.  ;D
It actually handles well, so cornering can still be a hoot.  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 August 2016, 19:59:03
The chips around here taste so shite, I wouldn't abuse my car with their cooking oil ;D.  But enough salt and vinegar, you can mask the taste ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 August 2016, 20:09:18
The diesel pump on the Merc  is the size of a moped engine. It isn't fussy about the quality of what its asked to pump. Even that crap stuff that turns into hard white grease in wintertime will go through it when its semi liquid in the summer.  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 August 2016, 23:52:11
One of my cars fulfils all your criteria apart from one.
Its a classic Merc.
Its RWD.
Economy varies between equivalent to 110mpg and infinite mpg.
I paid £350 for it  - but had to spend the same again to get it roadworthy.




Its pitifully slow.  :D............It was alleged to possess 90 horses 26 years and 226,000 miles ago. ;D
A late '80s 300D estate would fit the bill... £4k for a nice, if not mint, car for full on family duty, but not be too shiny to drive to work everyday... £3k would see a scruffy mechanically upto scratch and on the road, including the purchase price...

Either or, with one caveat: Fit electric front seats ;)

Then buy SWMBO a four/five year old Toyota Yaris.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 August 2016, 08:53:34
I do like the classic Mercs, W126 would be nice, big comfy cruiser. Straight 6 engines look nice and easy to work on.

Insurance being such an issue I might have to get MrsT something smaller and I keep the 3.2 for my own use, as it's surprisingly cheap insurance wise, well at least it was last year.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 August 2016, 12:29:41
I do like the classic Mercs, W126 would be nice, big comfy cruiser. Straight 6 engines look nice and easy to work on.

Insurance being such an issue I might have to get MrsT something smaller and I keep the 3.2 for my own use, as it's surprisingly cheap insurance wise, well at least it was last year.

Transfer the LPG kit over to the 3.2 and you have your commuting car. :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 August 2016, 12:52:37
I do like the classic Mercs, W126 would be nice, big comfy cruiser. Straight 6 engines look nice and easy to work on.

Insurance being such an issue I might have to get MrsT something smaller and I keep the 3.2 for my own use, as it's surprisingly cheap insurance wise, well at least it was last year.

Transfer the LPG kit over to the 3.2 and you have your commuting car. :y

LPG kit next to useless for the 3.2, only good for a 4 banger. ECU 4 pot, single hole multi-valve tank :'(

That said if I get a new 2.2, I'd swap the kit over, with just a newer tank which sits flush with the back.

But for the cost of a new clean 2.2, I could buy LPG kit for the 3.2
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 August 2016, 13:44:22
Your LPG kit will pretty much bolt onto any 4 pot GM product...
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 August 2016, 13:47:55
I do like the classic Mercs, W126 would be nice, big comfy cruiser. Straight 6 engines look nice and easy to work on.

Insurance being such an issue I might have to get MrsT something smaller and I keep the 3.2 for my own use, as it's surprisingly cheap insurance wise, well at least it was last year.

Transfer the LPG kit over to the 3.2 and you have your commuting car. :y

LPG kit next to useless for the 3.2, only good for a 4 banger. ECU 4 pot, single hole multi-valve tank :'(

That said if I get a new 2.2, I'd swap the kit over, with just a newer tank which sits flush with the back.

But for the cost of a new clean 2.2, I could buy LPG kit for the 3.2

The ECUs actually all support up to 8 pots, assuming it's a Stag 300. You just need a few extra wires in the loom. Injectors will be tired any way by now. With your famous "driving style", would you find the limitations of a single hole tank?  :P
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 August 2016, 13:50:17
Your LPG kit will pretty much bolt onto any 4 pot GM product...

Nothing else really appeals, Astra/Vectra. If I was going to swap it over, be onto a 2.2 Sport. eg something like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Vauxhall-Opel-Omega-2-2i-16v-Sport-Automatic-carlton-senator-/252495536681?hash=item3ac9e82229:g:EigAAOSw0RpXlfTm (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Vauxhall-Opel-Omega-2-2i-16v-Sport-Automatic-carlton-senator-/252495536681?hash=item3ac9e82229:g:EigAAOSw0RpXlfTm)

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 August 2016, 13:51:08
I do like the classic Mercs, W126 would be nice, big comfy cruiser. Straight 6 engines look nice and easy to work on.

Insurance being such an issue I might have to get MrsT something smaller and I keep the 3.2 for my own use, as it's surprisingly cheap insurance wise, well at least it was last year.

Transfer the LPG kit over to the 3.2 and you have your commuting car. :y

LPG kit next to useless for the 3.2, only good for a 4 banger. ECU 4 pot, single hole multi-valve tank :'(

That said if I get a new 2.2, I'd swap the kit over, with just a newer tank which sits flush with the back.

But for the cost of a new clean 2.2, I could buy LPG kit for the 3.2

The ECUs actually all support up to 8 pots, assuming it's a Stag 300. You just need a few extra wires in the loom. Injectors will be tired any way by now. With your famous "driving style", would you find the limitations of a single hole tank?  :P

Oh really?  :-\

I was under the impression my ECU would not cope with 6? *digs around to find my original LPG kit info.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 August 2016, 13:52:19
I do like the classic Mercs, W126 would be nice, big comfy cruiser. Straight 6 engines look nice and easy to work on.

Insurance being such an issue I might have to get MrsT something smaller and I keep the 3.2 for my own use, as it's surprisingly cheap insurance wise, well at least it was last year.

Transfer the LPG kit over to the 3.2 and you have your commuting car. :y

LPG kit next to useless for the 3.2, only good for a 4 banger. ECU 4 pot, single hole multi-valve tank :'(

That said if I get a new 2.2, I'd swap the kit over, with just a newer tank which sits flush with the back.

But for the cost of a new clean 2.2, I could buy LPG kit for the 3.2

The ECUs actually all support up to 8 pots, assuming it's a Stag 300. You just need a few extra wires in the loom. Injectors will be tired any way by now. With your famous "driving style", would you find the limitations of a single hole tank?  :P

The student is right... His kit wouldn't fit the 3.2  ;) And it's only marginally suitable for the 2.2... A good spanking (a real one, not a Tunnie one :-X ::)) will highlight the underrated vaporiser within minutes ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 August 2016, 13:53:15
I do like the classic Mercs, W126 would be nice, big comfy cruiser. Straight 6 engines look nice and easy to work on.

Insurance being such an issue I might have to get MrsT something smaller and I keep the 3.2 for my own use, as it's surprisingly cheap insurance wise, well at least it was last year.

Transfer the LPG kit over to the 3.2 and you have your commuting car. :y

LPG kit next to useless for the 3.2, only good for a 4 banger. ECU 4 pot, single hole multi-valve tank :'(

That said if I get a new 2.2, I'd swap the kit over, with just a newer tank which sits flush with the back.

But for the cost of a new clean 2.2, I could buy LPG kit for the 3.2

The ECUs actually all support up to 8 pots, assuming it's a Stag 300. You just need a few extra wires in the loom. Injectors will be tired any way by now. With your famous "driving style", would you find the limitations of a single hole tank?  :P

Oh really?  :-\

I was under the impression my ECU would not cope with 6? *digs around to find my original LPG kit info.

The ECU won't, neither will the loom, injectors and certainly not the vap ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 August 2016, 13:53:56

The ECUs actually all support up to 8 pots, assuming it's a Stag 300. You just need a few extra wires in the loom. Injectors will be tired any way by now. With your famous "driving style", would you find the limitations of a single hole tank?  :P

Oh really?  :-\

I was under the impression my ECU would not cope with 6? *digs around to find my original LPG kit info.
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I think they did do a 4 pot only ECU, but guessing yours was from Teilo like the rest of ours, and I believe he only supplied the 300 / 300 Plus/Extra, etc.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 August 2016, 14:01:10
No, mine was eBay, just checked. Stag4 ECU so won't do 6 pots.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 August 2016, 14:21:56
I'd need something like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STAG-300-6-AUTOGAS-SEQUENTIAL-INJECTION-LPG-6-CYLINDER-KIT-W-VALTEK-INJECTORS-/290803454725?hash=item43b53c9305:m:m7BZu-v5o3VOZg3B4E6N6Ew (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STAG-300-6-AUTOGAS-SEQUENTIAL-INJECTION-LPG-6-CYLINDER-KIT-W-VALTEK-INJECTORS-/290803454725?hash=item43b53c9305:m:m7BZu-v5o3VOZg3B4E6N6Ew)

OMVL injectors tad more in another kit.

Plus the rear end kit, guess I could re-use the tank frame and straps. But I'd need a new 80L tank and filler valve.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 August 2016, 14:28:44
Bad luck on the ECU. :(

IIRC Jaime used a decent single hole valve on the bullet with no problems. Tank might well be getting close to 10 years now anyway, if you wanted to get it certified.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 August 2016, 14:35:32
System fitted 6 years ago, although would need to check age on tank itself. I ordered an 80L but gave me a 90L from Tinley Tech, problem was it never went fully back against back seats. I'd prob invest in a new 80L tank if I did go LPG route.

I've struggled to get time with little fatty, the 3.2 is well over-due it's cambelt. So doubt we can find time to LPG it, even if we did any niggles I'd need his help and I just don't have the time to do 75 mile run to his. Even when I do, he is busy himself, so can't really see it working.

Now looking at S60 Auto Diesels, cheap enough (sub £1.5k) and will give me a test to see what DERV is like on my commute.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 August 2016, 17:06:29
Volvo. Auto. Diesel. About the worst combination, as just about all the advice on here has testified.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26795734/Smilies/4199675334_66c3e3d61d_z.jpg)
 ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 August 2016, 17:23:30
Your LPG kit will pretty much bolt onto any 4 pot GM product...

Nothing else really appeals, Astra/Vectra. If I was going to swap it over, be onto a 2.2 Sport. eg something like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Vauxhall-Opel-Omega-2-2i-16v-Sport-Automatic-carlton-senator-/252495536681?hash=item3ac9e82229:g:EigAAOSw0RpXlfTm (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Vauxhall-Opel-Omega-2-2i-16v-Sport-Automatic-carlton-senator-/252495536681?hash=item3ac9e82229:g:EigAAOSw0RpXlfTm)

Almost £1500 for a 2.2 Omega. A sense of humour is a wonderful thing. ::) ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2016, 17:58:50
IIRC Jaime used a decent single hole valve on the bullet with no problems. Tank might well be getting close to 10 years now anyway, if you wanted to get it certified.
Indeed. Thought it uses the BRC high-flow multivalve, which Teilo reckons would (just about) be fine to 225bhp (which is what I estimated to him that a chipped 3.0l would be).

That said, if buying new kit now, I'd defo spend the extra on a 4 hole tank
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2016, 18:00:03
No, mine was eBay, just checked. Stag4 ECU so won't do 6 pots.
I might know of a Stag300plus setup going cheap :P.  Comes with a 3.0l auto attached to it ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 August 2016, 18:11:19
No, mine was eBay, just checked. Stag4 ECU so won't do 6 pots.
I might know of a Stag300plus setup going cheap :P.  Comes with a 3.0l auto attached to it ;D

Does it come with free curry powered fitting?  ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2016, 18:16:27
If I'm brave enough to inspect the sills, it may/may not be available :P.

I might ask a grown up to take the sill covers off while I look the other way...    ...where is that Mr Gixer when you need him ;D


TBH, your threads and my recent searching, have given me the desire to sort the Bullet, as there is nothing out there that is as good (comfortable mile muncher, quick enough to have some fun in, competent in the twisties, and dirt cheap to run)  :'(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 August 2016, 18:19:07
If I'm brave enough to inspect the sills, it may/may not be available :P.

I might ask a grown up to take the sill covers off while I look the other way...    ...where is that Mr Gixer when you need him ;D


TBH, your threads and my recent searching, have given me the desire to sort the Bullet, as there is nothing out there that is as good (comfortable mile muncher, quick enough to have some fun in, competent in the twisties, and dirt cheap to run)  :'(

Bet you have a better budget that I, Jag XF, Rangies all an option.

I'm dropping the 2.2 down for it's MOT tomorrow, a month early... shall see what happens. Driving back today, I do want something with air-con that works  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2016, 18:21:27
Bet you have a better budget that I, Jag XF, Rangies all an option.
Really?  What makes you think that?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 August 2016, 18:26:48
Bet you have a better budget that I, Jag XF, Rangies all an option.
Really?  What makes you think that?

Jag XF's are super comfy, you'd want the later 3.0 rather than 2.7d, I think they are good looking cars too. Sure it could be stiffened up to your liking, various XF-R bits?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Auto Addict on 12 August 2016, 18:29:17
Bet you have a better budget that I, Jag XF, Rangies all an option.
Really?  What makes you think that?

Jag XF's are super comfy, you'd want the later 3.0 rather than 2.7d, I think they are good looking cars too. Sure it could be stiffened up to your liking, various XF-R bits?

Just can't see TuBy in a Jag :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2016, 18:36:06
Bet you have a better budget that I, Jag XF, Rangies all an option.
Really?  What makes you think that?

Jag XF's are super comfy, you'd want the later 3.0 rather than 2.7d, I think they are good looking cars too. Sure it could be stiffened up to your liking, various XF-R bits?
Was on about the budget, not the car.  I was lucky enough to "borrow" (don't tell that Wyatt fella :P) an XF for most of the day, struggled with the seats TBH.  And it was a hot day, and the A/C didn't work.

v6 diesel hits top tax as well :(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2016, 18:38:09
Seats aside (and the small cabin and boot for its size), I can't fault the car or its ride.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 August 2016, 18:45:08
Bet you have a better budget that I, Jag XF, Rangies all an option.
Really?  What makes you think that?

Jag XF's are super comfy, you'd want the later 3.0 rather than 2.7d, I think they are good looking cars too. Sure it could be stiffened up to your liking, various XF-R bits?
Was on about the budget

Ohh!

MrsT has not worked for years, so I'm funding her car needs as well. Little point in her working with Little Miss T about, better off not working and get to see her.

I imagined you would have a better budget, no little ones to run  ::)  ;D


Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 15 August 2016, 08:18:01
I ordered my Omega replacement-replacement on Saturday (since technically the Ranger was the Omega replacement ;D) ... it does not fit into the budgets above ;D  :-X :-[
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 August 2016, 08:49:57
I ordered my Omega replacement-replacement on Saturday (since technically the Ranger was the Omega replacement ;D) ... it does not fit into the budgets above ;D  :-X :-[

Details  :y :y :y

I took 3.2 to work today, no school means no traffic and I reset the everything in BC, I averaged 27mpg apparently!

I just need to bribe a fatty little admin with curry, in exchange for some LPG fitting  :P
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 15 August 2016, 09:12:51
Yeah, 22mpg on gas would be pretty good as a commuter car actually.

So, this is why I shouldn't be allowed in car dealerships:
(http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o550/aaronjb78/WhatsApp%20Image%202016-08-13%20at%2013.37.51_zpsa6gnebol.jpeg) (http://s1147.photobucket.com/user/aaronjb78/media/WhatsApp%20Image%202016-08-13%20at%2013.37.51_zpsa6gnebol.jpeg.html)

 :-[ :-[ :-[

2.0 190 TDi, DSG (yes, I can already hear the screams from the peanut gallery  :P ;)) black on black on black (metallic black paint, black leather, piano black interior, anthracite wheels), dealer wanted rid of the showroom car so got a reasonable deal as they'd specced a bunch of options I like but wouldn't have paid for (panoramic roof, flappy paddle steering wheel, droppable boot floor, parcel shelf - which I would describe as a "package hammock", in-boot rear seat latches, mobile-phone control of the stereo  etc) and as the L&K it comes with a spec list that has essentially everything else; dynamic chassis control, LED lighting, radar cruise etc..

Should collect it this week :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 August 2016, 09:17:55
Very nice  :y

I did like the Superb, but my budget was a fraction of yours  :-[

Hope it serves you well  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 15 August 2016, 09:24:45
Tis the joy (and pain) of credit ;) The Ranger is leased so it just needed to stay *cough* roughly *cough* within that budget.. the one I originally set out to buy (SE L Business) would have easily done that, and then I ended up buying one spec level up with a stack of options thrown on ;D

Self restraint never was my strong suit!
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 August 2016, 09:27:01
Tis the joy (and pain) of credit ;) The Ranger is leased so it just needed to stay *cough* roughly *cough* within that budget.. the one I originally set out to buy (SE L Business) would have easily done that, and then I ended up buying one spec level up with a stack of options thrown on ;D

Self restraint never was my strong suit!

Way I always think about it, is when you see the deals "Only £299 a month"

I always think, £299 is a feking expensive month in Omega ownership, those only come around a couple of times a year tops.  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 15 August 2016, 10:14:18

Way I always think about it, is when you see the deals "Only £299 a month"

I always think, £299 is a feking expensive month in Omega ownership, those only come around a couple of times a year tops.  :)

I hope such an expensive month would only occur every three or four years! The most I've spent in one go was £240 at MOT time. That was for two tyres, rear brake discs/pads/shoes/fitting kit and the cost of the MOT.

It might need £100 occasionally, but what car doesn't?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 August 2016, 10:16:55

Way I always think about it, is when you see the deals "Only £299 a month"

I always think, £299 is a feking expensive month in Omega ownership, those only come around a couple of times a year tops.  :)

I hope such an expensive month would only occur every three or four years! The most I've spent in one go was £240 at MOT time. That was for two tyres, rear brake discs/pads/shoes/fitting kit and the cost of the MOT.

It might need £100 occasionally, but what car doesn't?

Yeah I was thinking tyres, when that can be £150 for a pair, plus if something else goes pop. For me recently the 2.2 had a pair of rear boots and a new exhaust, so £200 odd.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: henryd on 15 August 2016, 11:42:20
I'm yet to sit in a VAG that's comfy too, I find all of the range have rock-hard seats.  :-\

Seats in my Touareg are excellent :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 August 2016, 11:45:29
I'm yet to sit in a VAG that's comfy too, I find all of the range have rock-hard seats.  :-\

Seats in my Touareg are excellent :y

Good point, not tried them.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: X30XE on 15 August 2016, 12:34:10
V10 Toe-rag can get a proper wriggle on too.  As I discovered following one in my Jag XF S once.  "Why is this thing still in front of me? Everything else is disappearing behind me... oh yeah, it's a V10 diesel"  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Varche on 15 August 2016, 14:43:58
Like that Skoda,  Aaron.

Tunnie how about a Volvo diesel S60. .? They come with high specs.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 August 2016, 14:52:20
Like that Skoda,  Aaron.

Tunnie how about a Volvo diesel S60. .? They come with high specs.

Yes these are well priced, loads of options under £2k as well. I think I'd try a cheapo banger like this, to see how diesel auto would run on my commute.

But my plan now is to replace my 2.2 commuter, with the 3.2 Elite. Just gas that, as price of the kit is fairly reasonable. Then get a mum bus for the weekend when the 2.2 finally expires.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 August 2016, 14:53:44
Also, the Bike is not going to sell for what I want it to. So it means a CLS is out of my price range  :'(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 August 2016, 15:06:10
How many miles are there on your 3.2 these days?

Did the lifter noise ever get resolved?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 August 2016, 15:28:26
How many miles are there on your 3.2 these days?

Did the lifter noise ever get resolved?

It's on 155k now, but it feels far better than 2.2 - I figured I'd get at least 50k out of it, so even though it's big miles still worth it. Also cheaper alternative than CLS or another Diesel Auto I know nothing about. As my budget will see 100-125k diesel autos.

Noise is still there  >:( -  I have bag of lifters back in Brackley that can replace one of the dead ones. Also needs new cambelt, which I've already got.

Also been buying the bits for cam covers, as I'd put a fresh set on as they are coming off to change the lifter.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Lazydocker on 15 August 2016, 15:36:01
How many miles are there on your 3.2 these days?

Did the lifter noise ever get resolved?

It's on 155k now, but it feels far better than 2.2 - I figured I'd get at least 50k out of it, so even though it's big miles still worth it. Also cheaper alternative than CLS or another Diesel Auto I know nothing about. As my budget will see 100-125k diesel autos.

Noise is still there  >:( -  I have bag of lifters back in Brackley that can replace one of the dead ones. Also needs new cambelt, which I've already got.

Also been buying the bits for cam covers, as I'd put a fresh set on as they are coming off to change the lifter.

Do that work before LPG ideally... Otherwise it's just more stuff to remove ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 August 2016, 15:52:02
How many miles are there on your 3.2 these days?

Did the lifter noise ever get resolved?

It's on 155k now, but it feels far better than 2.2 - I figured I'd get at least 50k out of it, so even though it's big miles still worth it. Also cheaper alternative than CLS or another Diesel Auto I know nothing about. As my budget will see 100-125k diesel autos.

Noise is still there  >:( -  I have bag of lifters back in Brackley that can replace one of the dead ones. Also needs new cambelt, which I've already got.

Also been buying the bits for cam covers, as I'd put a fresh set on as they are coming off to change the lifter.

Do that work before LPG ideally... Otherwise it's just more stuff to remove ;)

Yes agreed, want it running sweet before LPG work.  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 August 2016, 16:01:58
Sounds good. Mine is on 197K now and still fine. Mileage doesn't seem to be much of an issue.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: joff on 15 August 2016, 16:35:44
I tested the wife's X type Jag on a trip to Scotland over the past two weeks and I must say it passed (and the air-con works) 2.0D top spec estate 07 plate and we got 48 mpg over 1200 miles. Not as big as the Omega estate in size but I had a roof box on it like I did with the Elite, and the seats are ok too. Cost £3200 now with 101k on it. I like it :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: X30XE on 15 August 2016, 17:32:07
I tested the wife's Mondeo on a trip to Scotland over the past two weeks and I must say it passed (and the air-con works) 2.0D top spec estate 07 plate and we got 48 mpg over 1200 miles. Not as big as the Omega estate in size but I had a roof box on it like I did with the Elite, and the seats are ok too. Cost £3200 now with 101k on it. I like it :y

A while back you couldn't give x-types away.  Injectors, transmissions, all the other ford foibles...  Let's hope they improved it towards the end.  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: joff on 15 August 2016, 18:04:51
I tested the wife's Mondeo on a trip to Scotland over the past two weeks and I must say it passed (and the air-con works) 2.0D top spec estate 07 plate and we got 48 mpg over 1200 miles. Not as big as the Omega estate in size but I had a roof box on it like I did with the Elite, and the seats are ok too. Cost £3200 now with 101k on it. I like it :y

A while back you couldn't give x-types away.  Injectors, transmissions, all the other ford foibles...  Let's hope they improved it towards the end.  :-\

The chap that had it before did so for five years, he always put it into his local garge for work but as I say it passed the test for us with our many trips to Scotland from Wiltshire to see the family. Fingers crossed :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: henryd on 15 August 2016, 23:21:40
V10 Toe-rag can get a proper wriggle on too.  As I discovered following one in my Jag XF S once.  "Why is this thing still in front of me? Everything else is disappearing behind me... oh yeah, it's a V10 diesel"  ;D

There's one down here thats been mapped and can light all four wheels up when asked (with nannying turned off) :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 August 2016, 01:06:03
I'm very happy with my BMW 530d that I recently acquired.  :y 

It's big, roomy, very comfortable, and can shift as well for a big DERV drinker, especially when playing with the steptronic gearbox!  8)

Oh and you don't have to use the indicators either...  ;D

The Omega's future is uncertain.  :-X
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 18 August 2016, 01:59:41
I'm very happy with my BMW 530d that I recently acquired.  :y 

It's big, roomy, very comfortable, and can shift as well for a big DERV drinker, especially when playing with the steptronic gearbox!  8)

Oh and you don't have to use the indicators either...  ;D

The Omega's future is uncertain.  :-X

E39? Not keen on the late shape...
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 August 2016, 11:28:04
I tested the wife's Mondeo on a trip to Scotland over the past two weeks and I must say it passed (and the air-con works) 2.0D top spec estate 07 plate and we got 48 mpg over 1200 miles. Not as big as the Omega estate in size but I had a roof box on it like I did with the Elite, and the seats are ok too. Cost £3200 now with 101k on it. I like it :y

A while back you couldn't give x-types away.  Injectors, transmissions, all the other ford foibles...  Let's hope they improved it towards the end.  :-\

Briefly owned an X-Type Mondeo 3.0 SE auto.

A woeful car.

However, if you can pick one up for buttons you might just get lucky. :y


 
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: henryd on 18 August 2016, 12:13:19
I'm very happy with my BMW 530d that I recently acquired.  :y 

It's big, roomy, very comfortable, and can shift as well for a big DERV drinker, especially when playing with the steptronic gearbox!  8)

Oh and you don't have to use the indicators either...  ;D

The Omega's future is uncertain.  :-X

E39? Not keen on the late shape...

Later one are E60 saloon and E61 estate,I'm not keen either but the estate looks better than the saloon to my eye
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 August 2016, 12:27:59
I'm very happy with my BMW 530d that I recently acquired.  :y 

It's big, roomy, very comfortable, and can shift as well for a big DERV drinker, especially when playing with the steptronic gearbox!  8)

Oh and you don't have to use the indicators either...  ;D

The Omega's future is uncertain.  :-X

E39? Not keen on the late shape...

Later one are E60 saloon and E61 estate,I'm not keen either but the estate looks better than the saloon to my eye

Well beaten with the ugly stick when compared to the fine looking E39.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 18 August 2016, 12:39:23

E39? Not keen on the late shape...

Later one are E60 saloon and E61 estate,I'm not keen either but the estate looks better than the saloon to my eye

Well beaten with the ugly stick when compared to the fine looking E39.


Which in turn looks like it was 'designed' by leaving a plastic model of an E34 in the sun ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 August 2016, 13:18:39

E39? Not keen on the late shape...

Later one are E60 saloon and E61 estate,I'm not keen either but the estate looks better than the saloon to my eye

Well beaten with the ugly stick when compared to the fine looking E39.


Which in turn looks like it was 'designed' by leaving a plastic model of an E34 in the sun ;D

Natural evolution then. ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 August 2016, 13:49:16

E39? Not keen on the late shape...

Later one are E60 saloon and E61 estate,I'm not keen either but the estate looks better than the saloon to my eye

Well beaten with the ugly stick when compared to the fine looking E39.


Which in turn looks like it was 'designed' by leaving a plastic model of an E34 in the sun ;D
Just like the Omega then :D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 18 August 2016, 19:47:39
Imo, the e38 is a stunning looking car. The nicest post 70,s BMW ever made. I hope to buy an e38 740i after I'm done with my current omega.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 18 August 2016, 20:48:25
I imagined you would have a better budget, no little ones to run  ::)  ;D
Why do all new parents always assume they are worse off?

Surely if I could afford it, I'd find something better than an 18yr old, 231k Vauxhall.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 August 2016, 21:51:55
I imagined you would have a better budget, no little ones to run  ::)  ;D
Why do all new parents always assume they are worse off?

Surely if I could afford it, I'd find something better than an 18yr old, 231k Vauxhall.
Like a seventeen year old Focus perhaps :P
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 August 2016, 09:19:45
I imagined you would have a better budget, no little ones to run  ::)  ;D
Why do all new parents always assume they are worse off?

Surely if I could afford it, I'd find something better than an 18yr old, 231k Vauxhall.
Like a seventeen year old Focus perhaps :P
If anyone wants a 16 year old MX5... ::)

Why do all new parents always assume they are worse off?
That's normally the ones who have haemorrhaged their reserves buying £1000 prams with alloy wheels and disk brakes, and replaced their whole fleet of cars because they don't have iso-fix mounts, I find. It's somewhere between sh1t and syphilis, apparently.  ;D

 ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 20 August 2016, 10:17:25
I imagined you would have a better budget, no little ones to run  ::)  ;D
Why do all new parents always assume they are worse off?

Surely if I could afford it, I'd find something better than an 18yr old, 231k Vauxhall.
Like a seventeen year old Focus perhaps :P
17yrs ago, I had said Focus when it was brand spankers.  It was shit then, and hasn't improved with age ;)

(actually, ours was a 51 plate, so about 15yrs ago)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 20 August 2016, 10:20:00
Why do all new parents always assume they are worse off?
That's normally the ones who have haemorrhaged their reserves buying £1000 prams with alloy wheels and disk brakes, and replaced their whole fleet of cars because they don't have iso-fix mounts, I find. It's somewhere between sh1t and syphilis, apparently.  ;D

 ;)
Kevin Wood, with open thoughts like that, you'll get accused of not understanding due to not having any little darlings.... ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Shackeng on 20 August 2016, 20:00:05
I'm very happy with my BMW 530d that I recently acquired.  :y 

It's big, roomy, very comfortable, and can shift as well for a big DERV drinker, especially when playing with the steptronic gearbox!  8)

Oh and you don't have to use the indicators either...  ;D

The Omega's future is uncertain.  :-X

Must be a different one than the one I rode in then. :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 August 2016, 21:01:38
I'm very happy with my BMW 530d that I recently acquired.  :y 

It's big, roomy, very comfortable, and can shift as well for a big DERV drinker, especially when playing with the steptronic gearbox!  8)

Oh and you don't have to use the indicators either...  ;D

The Omega's future is uncertain.  :-X

Must be a different one than the one I rode in then. :-\

Quite likely. Mine's red with a matching interior!  8)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 August 2016, 21:58:47
I'm very happy with my BMW 530d that I recently acquired.  :y 

It's big, roomy, very comfortable, and can shift as well for a big DERV drinker, especially when playing with the steptronic gearbox!  8)

Oh and you don't have to use the indicators either...  ;D

The Omega's future is uncertain.  :-X

Must be a different one than the one I rode in then. :-\

Quite likely. Mine's red with a matching interior!  8)

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Shackeng on 21 August 2016, 11:22:49
I'm very happy with my BMW 530d that I recently acquired.  :y 

It's big, roomy, very comfortable, and can shift as well for a big DERV drinker, especially when playing with the steptronic gearbox!  8)

Oh and you don't have to use the indicators either...  ;D

The Omega's future is uncertain.  :-X

Must be a different one than the one I rode in then. :-\

Quite likely. Mine's red with a matching interior!  8)

Yep, red and red, and still not much room. ::)
I am 6'4" tall, so room is essential.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 22 August 2016, 19:06:04
I swear the cabins in 5 series are shrinking. Used to be quite a comfortable place it sit in the back of one, but now feeling decidedly uncomfortable small.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 August 2016, 19:07:19
I swear the cabins in 5 series are shrinking. Used to be quite a comfortable place it sit in the back of one, but now feeling decidedly uncomfortable small.
Don't forget that you're 40 years bigger... ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 22 August 2016, 19:20:46
I swear the cabins in 5 series are shrinking. Used to be quite a comfortable place it sit in the back of one, but now feeling decidedly uncomfortable small.
Don't forget that you're 40 years bigger... ;)
Nope, I was slightly taller 15yrs ago.  They are definitely shrinking.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 23 August 2016, 07:53:23
I swear the cabins in 5 series are shrinking. Used to be quite a comfortable place it sit in the back of one, but now feeling decidedly uncomfortable small.
Don't forget that you're 40 years bigger... ;)
Nope, I was slightly taller 15yrs ago.  They are definitely shrinking.

Arse size can also reduce headroom..

..just sayin  :P ;D

(I know this through personal experience..)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 August 2016, 07:57:09
Kevin Wood, with open thoughts like that, you'll get accused of not understanding due to not having any little darlings.... ;D

Au contraire. I understand perfectly well, and hence "keep it in my trousers". ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 23 August 2016, 09:07:36
Kevin Wood, with open thoughts like that, you'll get accused of not understanding due to not having any little darlings.... ;D

Au contraire. I understand perfectly well, and hence "keep it in my trousers". ;)

You know there are methods other than abstinance, Kevin? ;)  :-X
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 August 2016, 09:09:53
Kevin Wood, with open thoughts like that, you'll get accused of not understanding due to not having any little darlings.... ;D

Au contraire. I understand perfectly well, and hence "keep it in my trousers". ;)

You know there are methods other than abstinance, Kevin? ;)  :-X

That TheBoy has been inviting you round "for a cup of tea" now you're local, hasn't he? ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 23 August 2016, 09:48:25
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 August 2016, 20:14:08
Kevin Wood, with open thoughts like that, you'll get accused of not understanding due to not having any little darlings.... ;D

Au contraire. I understand perfectly well, and hence "keep it in my trousers". ;)

You know there are methods other than abstinance, Kevin? ;)  :-X

That TheBoy has been inviting you round "for a cup of tea" now you're local, hasn't he? ::)

 ;D ;D ;D

Nearly spat my tea out!

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 23 August 2016, 23:32:06
Kevin Wood, with open thoughts like that, you'll get accused of not understanding due to not having any little darlings.... ;D

Au contraire. I understand perfectly well, and hence "keep it in my trousers". ;)

You know there are methods other than abstinance, Kevin? ;)  :-X

That TheBoy has been inviting you round "for a cup of tea" now you're local, hasn't he? ::)
aaronjb is where the funny water is....   ...we don't allow "them" over the posh end of Northamptonshire :P :P


(Somebody has to call Brakkers posh)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 August 2016, 23:48:20
Well hit has a Waitrose and everywhere closes on a Wednesday afternoon,  so, yup, it's officially posh :D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 23 August 2016, 23:55:15
Well hit has a Waitrose and everywhere closes on a Wednesday afternoon,  so, yup, it's officially posh :D
And the DIY shop shuts for lunch, and also closes Sat PM and all day Sunday. Perfect for a DIY place ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 August 2016, 00:01:26
Indeed, but don't forget all the posh people don't work, so can go to the diy shop at 2 pm on a Thursday  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 24 August 2016, 00:03:30
Indeed, but don't forget all the posh people don't work, so can go to the diy shop at 2 pm on a Thursday  ;D
I'm not sure they can until 2:30pm....   ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 24 August 2016, 20:53:57
What are Insignia Autos like? (With CDTi engine) I can't ignore the value for money on the Elite spec Estates. Packed full of kit and I can get quite new examples
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 August 2016, 21:38:05
Manual 4x4 is a good B Road car :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 24 August 2016, 21:54:13
Manual 4x4 is a good B Road car :y

Ha, thanks. But don't fancy that setup. Idiotic tax for starters and I don't need or want 4x4.  :)

Elite, CDTi with an Autobox.

As £8k appears to get you 2012 examples, around 50k miles and all the toys.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 24 August 2016, 22:10:26
Tad more miles, but this is stonking value.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605204137994 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605204137994)

I read the engines were refined a bit late 2010, going to have to drive one, see what's what.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mister Rog on 24 August 2016, 22:16:04
Tad more miles, but this is stonking value.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605204137994 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605204137994)

I read the engines were refined a bit late 2010, going to have to drive one, see what's what.

In the headline description " electric boot". I mean really, is it that important. Strange  :o
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 24 August 2016, 22:32:45
Tad more miles, but this is stonking value.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605204137994 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605204137994)

I read the engines were refined a bit late 2010, going to have to drive one, see what's what.

In the headline description " electric boot". I mean really, is it that important. Strange  :o

Handy, wish Omega's had it. Mercs just press a button and boot opens fully.

Same on these, button press, boot opens fully. When you arrive back at the car with little MrsT and shed load of shopping I could see this being very useful  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 August 2016, 00:30:04
Manual 4x4 is a good B Road car :y

Ha, thanks. But don't fancy that setup. Idiotic tax for starters and I don't need or want 4x4.  :)

Elite, CDTi with an Autobox.

As £8k appears to get you 2012 examples, around 50k miles and all the toys.
You can be a real div at times... 4x4 available in 2.0 Cdti form ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: X30XE on 25 August 2016, 00:56:23
Tad more miles, but this is stonking value.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605204137994 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605204137994)

I read the engines were refined a bit late 2010, going to have to drive one, see what's what.

What the hell is wrong with you  :-\

fnarking disgusting ugly obese astra full of the shittest plastics known to man, a disgusting boring 4 pot diesel piece of WWD cack, shit ride quality, noisey scratty little rep taxi. I would honestly rather walk than ever get in one of those abominations ever again.

Just get a CLS already dammit!  :P 
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 August 2016, 07:26:11
In the headline description " electrichideous boot". I mean really, is it that important. Strange  :o

FTFY, but I suppose you don't have to look at it if you're driving it. ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 25 August 2016, 10:22:09
Tad more miles, but this is stonking value.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605204137994 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605204137994)

I read the engines were refined a bit late 2010, going to have to drive one, see what's what.

What the hell is wrong with you  :-\

fnarking disgusting ugly obese astra full of the shittest plastics known to man, a disgusting boring 4 pot diesel piece of WWD cack, shit ride quality, noisey scratty little rep taxi. I would honestly rather walk than ever get in one of those abominations ever again.

Just get a CLS already dammit!  :P

Sadly I need something that ticks all the boxes, not the most inspiring car but I want something that's fairly cheap to run but has a few toys and has a bit of comfort.

I really do like the CLS, but not sure it will be practical enough for my needs. Hence now also looking at 2008-ish vintage E-Class 320's

Similar interior, same peach of V6 diesel engine just bags more practical.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 August 2016, 11:50:19
Tad more miles, but this is stonking value.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605204137994 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605204137994)

I read the engines were refined a bit late 2010, going to have to drive one, see what's what.

What the hell is wrong with you  :-\

fnarking disgusting ugly obese astra full of the shittest plastics known to man, a disgusting boring 4 pot diesel piece of WWD cack, shit ride quality, noisey scratty little rep taxi. I would honestly rather walk than ever get in one of those abominations ever again.

Just get a CLS already dammit!  :P

Sadly I need something that ticks all the boxes, not the most inspiring car but I want something that's fairly cheap to run but has a few toys and has a bit of comfort.

I really do like the CLS, but not sure it will be practical enough for my needs. Hence now also looking at 2008-ish vintage E-Class 320's

Similar interior, same peach of V6 diesel engine just bags more practical.



Please don't. :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 25 August 2016, 11:58:14
Time for diesel  :)

I found the 320 MB engine a peach, silky smooth and apart from rev gauge not going up as far, very hard to tell it was not petrol.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 August 2016, 12:13:04
Time for diesel  :)

I found the 320 MB engine a peach, silky smooth and apart from rev gauge not going up as far, very hard to tell it was not petrol.

I have never understood the whole diesel experience.

Other than low CO2 figures (which means inexpensive road tax) and decent fuel consumption, they offer little in my humble opinion.

They throw out so much pollution that some authorities are charging extra for both parking and driving a derv car.

In addition, they are expensive to fix as they age, more so than cars using proper fuel.

Sorry, but not a fan of derv. :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mister Rog on 25 August 2016, 12:19:26
Time for diesel  :)

I found the 320 MB engine a peach, silky smooth and apart from rev gauge not going up as far, very hard to tell it was not petrol.

I've not long got my first diesel, apart from a slightly louder and very different engine sound, I don't see any great performance difference between it and my MV6, but I'm not a boy racer type driver.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 25 August 2016, 12:22:50
Time for diesel  :)

I found the 320 MB engine a peach, silky smooth and apart from rev gauge not going up as far, very hard to tell it was not petrol.

I've not long got my first diesel, apart from a slightly louder and very different engine sound, I don't see any great performance difference between it and my MV6, but I'm not a boy racer type driver.

Same type of driver here, my main concern about the Merc is the 7g gearbox and its reliability.  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 August 2016, 12:27:09
Time for diesel  :)

I found the 320 MB engine a peach, silky smooth and apart from rev gauge not going up as far, very hard to tell it was not petrol.

I've not long got my first diesel, apart from a slightly louder and very different engine sound, I don't see any great performance difference between it and my MV6, but I'm not a boy racer type driver.

Same type of driver here, my main concern about the Merc is the 7g gearbox and its reliability.  :-\

If it is the same  or similar to the box in my Merc than I wouldn't concern yourself too much.

I thought the box was excellent and having seven speeds meant that the engine was always in the right gear for instant acceleration. :y

Consider a petrol CLS 350. :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 25 August 2016, 12:43:17
7g has 5 forward 2 reverse gears, apparently. Just concerned on it's life as examples I'm looking at are around 100k and I'm doing around 15k miles a year.

Can't consider petrols, I'm currently running the 3.2 as my work car. 23mpg has an effect on the wallet.  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 August 2016, 13:00:18
7g has 5 forward 2 reverse gears, apparently. Just concerned on it's life as examples I'm looking at are around 100k and I'm doing around 15k miles a year.

Can't consider petrols, I'm currently running the 3.2 as my work car. 23mpg has an effect on the wallet.  ;D

I get a new car tomorrow. :y

Well, not new, but July 2013(13) :y

It runs on petrol and even in my wildest dreams won't return 23 MPG.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: citroenguy on 25 August 2016, 13:06:00
Could I tempt you with something gallic?  8)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608126729577?search-target=usedcars&make=citroen&model=c5&year-from=2010&maximum-mileage=up_to_70000_miles&transmission=automatic&page=1&postcode=se162ub&radius=1500&sort=default&body-type=estate&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&logcode=p&adPos=1

Super comfy, great seats, quiet, nice cabin and a very reliable 2.0 hdi DW10 engine :y. Also you'll get around 40mpg.

Here´s one with the 2.7 HDi V6 (same one as in Jags an Land rovers), less reliable though..

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201607175933272?search-target=usedcars&make=citroen&model=c5&year-from=2009&fuel-type=diesel&transmission=automatic&sort=default&postcode=se162ub&searchcontext=default&page=1&radius=1500&body-type=estate&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&logcode=p&adPos=1

Bit of an odd choice like an omega :). There is a good forum for them too: http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 25 August 2016, 13:15:56
Humm not bad looking Estates are they? Very reasonable prices too.

I'm calling by a garage on way home that's open late, it has loads of options I'm considering. V70/A6 Avant/Insignia Tourer etc.

I need to get in and drive them really, as at the moment I'm just looking at photos and reviews. But now I've got some free time again, need to get my arse in these cars and drive them
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 August 2016, 13:23:01
Humm not bad looking Estates are they? Very reasonable prices too.

I'm calling by a garage on way home that's open late, it has loads of options I'm considering. V70/A6 Avant/Insignia Tourer etc.

I need to get in and drive them really, as at the moment I'm just looking at photos and reviews. But now I've got some free time again, need to get my arse in these cars and drive them

On a practical note many new cars are low -slung these days leaving little headroom for the taller driver.

I'm only six-one so not properly tall like yourself. Even so I find in most cars I need the seat as low as it will go. It is very annoying when your hair/head constantly rubs against the roof. :-\

Cars of old could be driven with a top hat.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: X30XE on 25 August 2016, 13:25:48
7g has 5 forward 2 reverse gears, apparently. Just concerned on it's life as examples I'm looking at are around 100k and I'm doing around 15k miles a year.

Can't consider petrols, I'm currently running the 3.2 as my work car. 23mpg has an effect on the wallet.  ;D

CLS 350  40mpg
CLS 350 CDI  46mpg

If you buy an insignificant I will track you down and set fire to it.  >:(  It's for your own good!  :D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 25 August 2016, 13:52:22
7g has 5 forward 2 reverse gears, apparently. Just concerned on it's life as examples I'm looking at are around 100k and I'm doing around 15k miles a year.

7 Forward, 2 Reverse (You don't call your 5 speed Omega a 6 speed, do you? ;)) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_7G-Tronic_transmission#Specifications
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 August 2016, 16:28:24
WTF? 2 Reverse gears... Why? :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 August 2016, 16:40:35
WTF? 2 Reverse gears... Why? :-\
Touch parking speed and ramming speed  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 25 August 2016, 17:00:45
WTF? 2 Reverse gears... Why? :-\


The second one is extra low geared for Parisiene parking adjustments
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 25 August 2016, 18:00:37
In general, small engined autos are unsatisfactory. Small engined FWD autos are even worse.  Don't even begin to consider it.

As has been said frequently before, but you don't want to hear, with your commute you WILL struggle with a DPF equipped diesel.  I know your commute. A blatt to the cost every few weeks ain't gonna cut it.

Older diesels lack the economy you are looking for, or are too slow to be useable.


Fix the clutch in the snot machine, and enjoy all the cash you'll still have :).
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 25 August 2016, 19:35:51
Well I sat in an Insignia today.... one word. Shite.  ::)

Was an Estate, but very unimpressed with the boot size, very compact. As suggested cheap crappy plastics, they cheap for a reason.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 August 2016, 19:39:15
Officially, Insignia estate boot is same volume to window line as Vectra C... 530 litres... Only 10 litres short of the Omega, but 100 litres short of the EClass ::)

You should have kept and gassed you Mums Omega estate...

But you'll not be told :-X
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 25 August 2016, 19:39:26
In general, small engined autos are unsatisfactory. Small engined FWD autos are even worse.  Don't even begin to consider it.

As has been said frequently before, but you don't want to hear, with your commute you WILL struggle with a DPF equipped diesel.  I know your commute. A blatt to the cost every few weeks ain't gonna cut it.

Older diesels lack the economy you are looking for, or are too slow to be useable.


Fix the clutch in the snot machine, and enjoy all the cash you'll still have :).

Next few years this would become the family car, so used at weekends as well on much longer runs. Friend of extended family has DPF diesel, his wife only does town work all week. He occasionally uses it at the weekend, never had any issues.

Many of my colleagues drive to work have similar commute to me, been chatting to a few recently on their cars, most have diesels never have an issue. M25 down M3 towards Twickers is normally clear, easily do 80+ for a good distance. I don't see it being an issue.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 25 August 2016, 19:40:28
Officially, Insignia estate boot is same volume to window line as Vectra C... 530 litres.

You should have kept and gassed you Mums Omega estate...

But you'll not be told :-X

But I did not own that  ;)

When I did look at taking it on, the loom had issues, as TB well knows.

MotherT's choice to chop it in for her Merc  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 August 2016, 19:43:06
In general, small engined autos are unsatisfactory. Small engined FWD autos are even worse.  Don't even begin to consider it.

As has been said frequently before, but you don't want to hear, with your commute you WILL struggle with a DPF equipped diesel.  I know your commute. A blatt to the cost every few weeks ain't gonna cut it.

Older diesels lack the economy you are looking for, or are too slow to be useable.


Fix the clutch in the snot machine, and enjoy all the cash you'll still have :).

Next few years this would become the family car, so used at weekends as well on much longer runs. Friend of extended family has DPF diesel, his wife only does town work all week. He occasionally uses it at the weekend, never had any issues.

Many of my colleagues drive to work have similar commute to me, been chatting to a few recently on their cars, most have diesels never have an issue. M25 down M3 towards Twickers is normally clear, easily do 80+ for a good distance. I don't see it being an issue.
Ignoring the legal implications,  that statement has Baldrick written all over it :-X

Do what you will, but don't start crying when it all goes horribly wrong ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 25 August 2016, 19:43:52
Officially, Insignia estate boot is same volume to window line as Vectra C... 530 litres... Only 10 litres short of the Omega, but 100 litres short of the EClass ::)

You should have kept and gassed you Mums Omega estate...

But you'll not be told :-X


Why do you keep making these digs? Seriously? Point?  >:(

I'd actually prefer you not to respond to any of my threads, shame there is not a way to hide a user >:(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: X30XE on 25 August 2016, 21:58:50
Well I sat in an Insignia today.... one word. Shite.  ::)

Was an Estate, but very unimpressed with the boot size, very compact. As suggested cheap crappy plastics, they cheap for a reason.

Urgh... I hope you've had a shower. That poverty plastic is full of aids ya know.

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 25 August 2016, 22:13:59
You may be able to save the DPF from failing (but you're looking high mileage, so maybe not), but the constant regens will truly hammer the economy.

As will an auto.

As will a small engine auto, but thank god you've ruled that out now :)


Just don't want you stuck with an expensive burden that's not going to meet expectations financially.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 25 August 2016, 22:20:12
Maybe someone on OOF has a nice low millage or a well kept higher millage Omega Saloon/Estate tucked away that's had everything or pretty much everything that's likely to go wrong leaving you for some time hopefully with just general maintenance? That they'd part with even if it was 2-4k it's pretty much going to be miles better than anything else at the same price range as you seem to be finding out.  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 25 August 2016, 22:23:49
Senator?...Unrealistic i know but if a nice one came up i'd go for it!  :y

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Senator-3-litre-24V-1991-/262579494882?hash=item3d22f51fe2:g:ftUAAOSw65FXsjO-

Their definitely going up in value so no more depreciation  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 26 August 2016, 09:28:24
One of the best Vauxhalls ever, bit of a golden moment. Carlton GSi with an interior like a Jag.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: terry paget on 04 September 2016, 14:10:28
I was thinking my X reg 2.2 manual was a rare bargain, but here's another just like it.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Omega-2-2L-CDX-/322250784774?hash=item4b07a4c006:g:wLoAAOSwxg5XyxpA
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: taitinson on 04 September 2016, 19:59:44
Officially, Insignia estate boot is same volume to window line as Vectra C... 530 litres... Only 10 litres short of the Omega, but 100 litres short of the EClass ::)

You should have kept and gassed you Mums Omega estate...

But you'll not be told :-X


Why do you keep making these digs? Seriously? Point?  >:(

I'd actually prefer you not to respond to any of my threads, shame there is not a way to hide a user >:(

Always been the same Tunnie, at first I thought it was just me mis-judging the written word but one of the main reasons I don't come on very often now is his constant barbed comments. Just pisses you off. I have no reason to disbelieve he knows an awful lot about every subject he comments on, just comes across as a cock most of the time  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 04 September 2016, 20:40:22
I was thinking my X reg 2.2 manual was a rare bargain, but here's another just like it.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Omega-2-2L-CDX-/322250784774?hash=item4b07a4c006:g:wLoAAOSwxg5XyxpA

Sorry, no more Omegas.

Loved 3.0d XF I looked at recently, shame about the tiny boot.  :(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: VXL V6 on 04 September 2016, 20:46:57
I was thinking my X reg 2.2 manual was a rare bargain, but here's another just like it.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Omega-2-2L-CDX-/322250784774?hash=item4b07a4c006:g:wLoAAOSwxg5XyxpA

Sorry, no more Omegas.

Loved 3.0d XF I looked at recently, shame about the tiny boot.  :(

Thing is, it's a relatively short time that you have to lug around pushchairs etc, even if you increase the family size I'd stick with the 3.2 for the family days and think more long term for your car.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 September 2016, 21:03:28
Left field, but... ticks all your requirements...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608026401006?search-target=usedcars&make=citroen&model=c6&page=1&sort=atcustom&searchcontext=default&postcode=rh60np&radius=1501&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&logcode=p&adPos=2

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: STEMO on 04 September 2016, 21:07:17
Hmmmm....£500 tax and six weeks MOT.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 04 September 2016, 21:08:43
Left field, but... ticks all your requirements...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608026401006?search-target=usedcars&make=citroen&model=c6&page=1&sort=atcustom&searchcontext=default&postcode=rh60np&radius=1501&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&logcode=p&adPos=2 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608026401006?search-target=usedcars&make=citroen&model=c6&page=1&sort=atcustom&searchcontext=default&postcode=rh60np&radius=1501&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&logcode=p&adPos=2)


As a nice toy to lavish time and money on? They're lovely, like a French XJ6. But a C6 as a sensible family car? You might just as well throw all caution to the wind and by a Maserati. Or an Alfa
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 04 September 2016, 21:44:28
I was thinking my X reg 2.2 manual was a rare bargain, but here's another just like it.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Omega-2-2L-CDX-/322250784774?hash=item4b07a4c006:g:wLoAAOSwxg5XyxpA

Sorry, no more Omegas.

Loved 3.0d XF I looked at recently, shame about the tiny boot.  :(

Thing is, it's a relatively short time that you have to lug around pushchairs etc, even if you increase the family size I'd stick with the 3.2 for the family days and think more long term for your car.

3.2 is the family car and will remain so, the replacement is my commuter plus treat to myself at selling the GS. But as a min requirement, it must take the iCandy pram and folding cotbed. I case the 3.2 fails, it must be a backup. Sod's law the 3.2 will fail when I really need it, recently HBV and coolant loss. Fixable, but needed a reliable car for 2/3 days, no time to fix. So needs to double as possible family car if needed.

Left field, but... ticks all your requirements...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608026401006?search-target=usedcars&make=citroen&model=c6&page=1&sort=atcustom&searchcontext=default&postcode=rh60np&radius=1501&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&logcode=p&adPos=2



One of those turned up as a work ordered taxi, very, very comfy really rode well. But not sure is own one that old  :-\

Budget is significantly more than that, I went to see something today, almost put a deposit down!
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: STEMO on 04 September 2016, 22:10:00
When I saw what Opti had paid for his, I nearly put a deposit down  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mister Rog on 04 September 2016, 23:10:07
When I saw what Opti had paid for his, I nearly put a deposit down  ;D

But being honest, it doesn't take much for that to happen does it ?  ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Andy B on 04 September 2016, 23:27:14
Hmmmm....£500 tax and six weeks MOT.

and ........ obviously it's French!  ::) ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Andy B on 04 September 2016, 23:30:47
.....

Loved 3.0d XF I looked at recently, shame about the tiny boot.  :(

Years ago when Clarkson was reviewing an XJ on Top Gear, his view of boot space was ...... if you want more space, buy a field!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Andy B on 05 September 2016, 20:08:52
....

Years ago when Clarkson was reviewing an XJ on Top Gear, his view of boot space was ...... if you want more space, buy a field!  ;D ;D ;D

Found it! It was the XJR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVLikIOR5Y8 right at the end  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 06 September 2016, 11:14:55
I need to buy a field then  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Andy B on 06 September 2016, 11:18:36
I'd not realised it was from THAT long ago!  ???
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 September 2016, 12:18:32
I'd not realised it was from THAT long ago!  ???

Only a couple of decades. ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 September 2016, 12:19:32
When I saw what Opti had paid for his, I nearly put a deposit down  ;D

Mondeo money. :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 September 2016, 12:49:40
I was thinking my X reg 2.2 manual was a rare bargain, but here's another just like it.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Omega-2-2L-CDX-/322250784774?hash=item4b07a4c006:g:wLoAAOSwxg5XyxpA

Sorry, no more Omegas.

Loved 3.0d XF I looked at recently, shame about the tiny boot.  :(

Thing is, it's a relatively short time that you have to lug around pushchairs etc, even if you increase the family size I'd stick with the 3.2 for the family days and think more long term for your car.

3.2 is the family car and will remain so, the replacement is my commuter plus treat to myself at selling the GS. But as a min requirement, it must take the iCandy pram and folding cotbed. I case the 3.2 fails, it must be a backup. Sod's law the 3.2 will fail when I really need it, recently HBV and coolant loss. Fixable, but needed a reliable car for 2/3 days, no time to fix. So needs to double as possible family car if needed.

Left field, but... ticks all your requirements...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608026401006?search-target=usedcars&make=citroen&model=c6&page=1&sort=atcustom&searchcontext=default&postcode=rh60np&radius=1501&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&logcode=p&adPos=2



One of those turned up as a work ordered taxi, very, very comfy really rode well. But not sure is own one that old  :-\

Budget is significantly more than that, I went to see something today, almost put a deposit down!


Do tell. :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 06 September 2016, 13:11:39
I was thinking my X reg 2.2 manual was a rare bargain, but here's another just like it.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Omega-2-2L-CDX-/322250784774?hash=item4b07a4c006:g:wLoAAOSwxg5XyxpA

Sorry, no more Omegas.

Loved 3.0d XF I looked at recently, shame about the tiny boot.  :(

Thing is, it's a relatively short time that you have to lug around pushchairs etc, even if you increase the family size I'd stick with the 3.2 for the family days and think more long term for your car.

3.2 is the family car and will remain so, the replacement is my commuter plus treat to myself at selling the GS. But as a min requirement, it must take the iCandy pram and folding cotbed. I case the 3.2 fails, it must be a backup. Sod's law the 3.2 will fail when I really need it, recently HBV and coolant loss. Fixable, but needed a reliable car for 2/3 days, no time to fix. So needs to double as possible family car if needed.

Left field, but... ticks all your requirements...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608026401006?search-target=usedcars&make=citroen&model=c6&page=1&sort=atcustom&searchcontext=default&postcode=rh60np&radius=1501&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&logcode=p&adPos=2



One of those turned up as a work ordered taxi, very, very comfy really rode well. But not sure is own one that old  :-\

Budget is significantly more than that, I went to see something today, almost put a deposit down!


Do tell. :)
it'll be something dull and boring, as the ageing tunnie finds the 2.2 Omega a bit too racy...  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 September 2016, 13:18:53
Whatever it is.......It will need to travel a lot of miles on a gallon of lorry fuel to impress Mr Tunnie. ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 06 September 2016, 13:24:34
Whatever it is.......It will need to travel a lot of miles on a gallon of lorry fuel to impress Mr Tunnie. ;)
He'd manage 30mpg from your new pussy magnet....
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 September 2016, 13:48:22
Whatever it is.......It will need to travel a lot of miles on a gallon of lorry fuel to impress Mr Tunnie. ;)
He'd manage 30mpg from your new pussy magnet....

With the annoying stop/start system disabled the trip computer shows 18.7 MPG for the last 412 miles.

Low to middle twenties should be possible on a long(50 MPH 8th gear) run.  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Andy B on 06 September 2016, 14:02:10
I'd not realised it was from THAT long ago!  ???

Only a couple of decades. ;)

I know  ??? ..... but it just didn't seem that long ago. That's what happens as you get older .........  :(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 September 2016, 14:14:32
I'd not realised it was from THAT long ago!  ???

Only a couple of decades. ;)

I know  ??? ..... but it just didn't seem that long ago. That's what happens as you get older .........  :(


....and another five years has passed since you posted it. ;) :D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Shackeng on 06 September 2016, 16:34:05
Whatever it is.......It will need to travel a lot of miles on a gallon of lorry fuel to impress Mr Tunnie. ;)
He'd manage 30mpg from your new pussy magnet....

With the annoying stop/start system disabled the trip computer shows 18.7 MPG for the last 412 miles.

Low to middle twenties should be possible on a long(50 MPH 8th gear) run.  :-\

Whats it like if you leave that engaged?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 September 2016, 16:57:09
Really, really annoying probably...
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 September 2016, 17:29:49
Whatever it is.......It will need to travel a lot of miles on a gallon of lorry fuel to impress Mr Tunnie. ;)
He'd manage 30mpg from your new pussy magnet....

With the annoying stop/start system disabled the trip computer shows 18.7 MPG for the last 412 miles.

Low to middle twenties should be possible on a long(50 MPH 8th gear) run.  :-\

Whats it like if you leave that engaged?

Quite dangerous if you are looking to fill a gap in the traffic.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: STEMO on 06 September 2016, 17:45:58
The wife has stop/start on her captur, it's meant to eke out every thimbleful of diesel so you get around 60mpg. The engine is a 1.5 dci.
I hardly think anyone who runs a 5 litre V8 is particularly worried about fuel consumption. Totally wrong on the big cat.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 September 2016, 18:23:05
The wife has stop/start on her captur, it's meant to eke out every thimbleful of diesel so you get around 60mpg. The engine is a 1.5 dci.
I hardly think anyone who runs a 5 litre V8 is particularly worried about fuel consumption. Totally wrong on the big cat.

I'm not.

I believe it helps to bring down the CO2 figure but makes f*ck all difference the the fuel consumption.

I won't be saving the planet I'm afraid. That is a job for Toyota Prius (pronounced 'pious') owners. :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 07 September 2016, 11:32:51
Despite disabling the system, the poxy Kia still occasionally kept stopping. I checked the badge as I dumped it, ,cee'd

Decent sized boot for Astra/Focus, and nicer to drive than Focus. Still a shitbox.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TD on 07 September 2016, 18:05:21
Despite disabling the system, the poxy Kia still occasionally kept stopping. I checked the badge as I dumped it, ,cee'd

Decent sized boot for Astra/Focus, and nicer to drive than Focus. Still a shitbox.

My Mondeo has stop/start....theres a button to turn it off, but it turns back on again after a restart.

Easiest way ive found to stop it turning the engine off...is leave my foot on the clutch  :y

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 09 September 2016, 23:42:02
Deposit has been put down, hope to collect my new trusty steed tomorrow.  :D

It's got a few more gizmo's and such, but it has some big boots to fill.

Going to miss my 2.2  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mister Rog on 10 September 2016, 11:21:55
Deposit has been put down, hope to collect my new trusty steed tomorrow.  :D

It's got a few more gizmo's and such, but it has some big boots to fill.

Going to miss my 2.2  :'( :'( :'(

Did I miss it somewhere ? What are you getting ?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2016, 11:23:46
Will post pictures and details later, it's not true Omega replacement as it's not RWD.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mister Rog on 10 September 2016, 11:25:11
Will post pictures and details later, it's not true Omega replacement as it's not RWD.

So AWD then ?   :y    (  Ahem  )
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2016, 11:25:57
I know one or two here may know exactly what it is, so maybe they should not comment, but does anyone want to play a guessing game?  :D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2016, 11:26:46
Will post pictures and details later, it's not true Omega replacement as it's not RWD.

So AWD then ?   :y    (  Ahem  )

Nope, FWD. But given choice (or lack of) RWD/AWD Saloons in my budget, which are not BMW or Audi, gave a limited choice.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2016, 11:27:28
It's a bit left field, I've not seen that many of them on the road.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: EMD on 10 September 2016, 11:32:51
Kia Niro  ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2016, 11:34:42
Had to Google that, no idea what the Kia range is.

But errr no.  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 September 2016, 12:10:37
It's a bit left field, I've not seen that many of them on the road.

Always good. :y
So FWD and French then? ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 September 2016, 12:11:53
Citroen C6.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 September 2016, 14:45:11
It's a bit left field, I've not seen that many of them on the road.

Always good. :y
So FWD and French then? ::)

.. and £30 road tax.. (= slooooow)  ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2016, 14:56:26
It's a bit left field, I've not seen that many of them on the road.

Always good. :y
So FWD and French then? ::)

.. and £30 road tax.. (= slooooow)  ;)

Did look at one with £110 tax, but I could just remap the one I've got if needs be. Tax not a decider, went on condition  :)

It's not French. :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 September 2016, 14:59:41
If it's VW/Seat/Skoda, then the Audi comment is a daft one, as they are one and the same...  ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2016, 15:01:50
Indeed I wrongly suggest Audi is RWD  :-[
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mister Rog on 10 September 2016, 15:12:49
It's a bit left field, I've not seen that many of them on the road.


I've found it . . . . . . That should give boy racers a run for their money  :y 

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02618/Noddy-car_2618947b.jpg)






http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10182716/Noddy-Car-to-sell-for-25000.html




Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 10 September 2016, 15:24:44
One of the new MGs
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 September 2016, 15:40:51
Left field choice.

Alfa Romeo and Saab.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: STEMO on 10 September 2016, 15:51:20
It's a front wheel driven diesel for work. Doubt there'll be a lot of excitement once all is revealed.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 September 2016, 16:11:22
It's a front wheel driven diesel for work. Doubt there'll be a lot of excitement once all is revealed.

I'm sure that Mr Tunnie wouldn't dream of buying a dull car. ::)

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 10 September 2016, 17:01:37
It's a front wheel driven diesel for work. Doubt there'll be a lot of excitement once all is revealed.

I'm sure that Mr Tunnie wouldn't dream of buying a dull car. ::)
I have a worry that he's gone and bought a Ford*

*Part of PAG
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TD on 10 September 2016, 18:41:42
It's a front wheel driven diesel for work. Doubt there'll be a lot of excitement once all is revealed.

I'm sure that Mr Tunnie wouldn't dream of buying a dull car. ::)
I have a worry that he's gone and bought a Ford*

*Part of PAG

And whats wrong with a Ford  >:(

Actually I'll probably tell you if mine carnt hit over 200k without costing me a fortune  ::) ;D

Mind you I wouldn't like to be in the shoes of the owner of a E220 cdi 62 plate, that's at my local garage at the moment.
Its done 280k miles and wont select anything but P ... according to the boss of the garage the gearbox ecu has detected something wrong and wont engage any gear....but wont tell them what the problem is...and they haven't a clue whats wrong!  ::) ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: ted_one on 10 September 2016, 18:42:39
I'm thinking the Chrysler 300 6.1 Hemi V8...it's certainly one or two or three to replace my three Omegas,had one in the States,a good tool for boiling the hides,when you feel the need :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2016, 19:52:49
Actually to you lot it's probably not left field  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2016, 19:53:32
It's a front wheel driven diesel for work. Doubt there'll be a lot of excitement once all is revealed.

I'm sure that Mr Tunnie wouldn't dream of buying a dull car. ::)
I have a worry that he's gone and bought a Ford*

*Part of PAG

Not Ford. But it does have a heated front screen  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Weds on 10 September 2016, 20:31:18
Quote

Not Ford. But it does have a heated front screen  :)

Mini Cooper ?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2016, 20:49:56
Nope :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 September 2016, 22:05:40
Nope :)

After all this pissing about let us  hope  you have bought something exciting, ;) ;D

Four door family car.......Aston Martin Rapide. ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mr Gav on 10 September 2016, 23:13:24
I still think we`ll be disapointed  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: dbug on 10 September 2016, 23:18:04
It's a front wheel driven diesel for work. Doubt there'll be a lot of excitement once all is revealed.

I'm sure that Mr Tunnie wouldn't dream of buying a dull car. ::)
I have a worry that he's gone and bought a Ford*

*Part of PAG

Not Ford. But it does have a heated front screen  :)

Jaguar? - but which model -X type AWD?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 01:07:03
It's a front wheel driven diesel for work. Doubt there'll be a lot of excitement once all is revealed.

I'm sure that Mr Tunnie wouldn't dream of buying a dull car. ::)
I have a worry that he's gone and bought a Ford*

*Part of PAG

Not Ford. But it does have a heated front screen  :)

Jaguar? - but which model -X type AWD?

Not a Jag, I really loved the XF. My budget saw the 1st Gen versions with 3.0d engines, very nice, could really see me owning on. Portfolio spec with B&W sounds? Yes please!

All going well, until we tried to fit basic pram stuff in the boot. No good.  :'(

This car will be used 90% for my work, but agreed with MrsT it would need to take Little MissT's pram and basic cot bed needs if required (in-case of the 3.2 not working) - sadly XF could not do this. Our budget was way off the Sportback  :'(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 September 2016, 09:59:04
How big a poxy prams now :o.  I realise prams have become a status symbol in this daft namby pamby world, but even so. An XF boot isn't great, but big enough for a bloody pram.  Most families have to make do with Astras and Focus', and manage.

When I was a toddler, we toured Europe.  11 of us, with luggage, in 2 cars. Including my pram. And a ride on tractor/trailer bought in Germany for my birthday.  And one of those cars was a Fiat 850 Sport Coupe.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mister Rog on 11 September 2016, 10:12:00

All going well, until we tried to fit basic pram stuff in the boot. No good.  :'(



At a wine warehouse in Calais once I watched a couple struggling to cram their cases of plonk into the boot. I had a huge amount more than them and just chucked it into the Omega no problem. Ok it was an estate, but I did feel a bit smug  ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 September 2016, 10:12:40
How big a poxy prams now :o.  I realise prams have become a status symbol in this daft namby pamby world, but even so. An XF boot isn't great, but big enough for a bloody pram.  Most families have to make do with Astras and Focus', and manage.

When I was a toddler, we toured Europe.  11 of us, with luggage, in 2 cars. Including my pram. And a ride on tractor/trailer bought in Germany for my birthday.  And one of those cars was a Fiat 850 Sport Coupe.

My parents had a Triumph Herald when I was a nipper. I always think of them as a "family car" size for that reason. Saw one on the road the other day. Could have trampled over it in the Omega without even noticing. ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 10:54:12
How big a poxy prams now :o.  I realise prams have become a status symbol in this daft namby pamby world, but even so. An XF boot isn't great, but big enough for a bloody pram.  Most families have to make do with Astras and Focus', and manage.

When I was a toddler, we toured Europe.  11 of us, with luggage, in 2 cars. Including my pram. And a ride on tractor/trailer bought in Germany for my birthday.  And one of those cars was a Fiat 850 Sport Coupe.

How big are cars now, new Fiat 500 vs original.

Pram not just for sitting, takes cot thing, car seat with adaptors, seat itself. Bloody massive things, we do have a smaller one much more traditional. Used it once one a trip away as main pram, never again. My back was bloody killing me. Too small and low to push around all day, I know some think some are chosen for status, but really one we bought fitted our needs.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 11:49:01
I would say  the size of the boot on the XF jaguar is pretty good. :y

Rear seat leg room is piss poor. More of a two plus two. :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 11:53:56
It's a front wheel driven diesel for work. Doubt there'll be a lot of excitement once all is revealed.

I'm sure that Mr Tunnie wouldn't dream of buying a dull car. ::)
I have a worry that he's gone and bought a Ford*

*Part of PAG

Not Ford. But it does have a heated front screen  :)

Jaguar? - but which model -X type AWD?

Not a Jag, I really loved the XF. My budget saw the 1st Gen versions with 3.0d engines, very nice, could really see me owning on. Portfolio spec with B&W sounds? Yes please!

All going well, until we tried to fit basic pram stuff in the boot. No good.  :'(

This car will be used 90% for my work, but agreed with MrsT it would need to take Little MissT's pram and basic cot bed needs if required (in-case of the 3.2 not working) - sadly XF could not do this. Our budget was way off the Sportback  :'(

XFR is to portfolio specification, and a little bit more. The meridian 825W sound system is excellent. :y

I'm sure an LPG tank could be fitted to the boot. :y



Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 12:07:57
How big a poxy prams now :o.  I realise prams have become a status symbol in this daft namby pamby world, but even so. An XF boot isn't great, but big enough for a bloody pram.  Most families have to make do with Astras and Focus', and manage.

When I was a toddler, we toured Europe.  11 of us, with luggage, in 2 cars. Including my pram. And a ride on tractor/trailer bought in Germany for my birthday.  And one of those cars was a Fiat 850 Sport Coupe.

My parents had a Triumph Herald when I was a nipper. I always think of them as a "family car" size for that reason. Saw one on the road the other day. Could have trampled over it in the Omega without even noticing. ;D


Yep.....tiny little thing by the standards of today.

As a kid I recall a neighbour ordered a brand new 2 litre Vitesse some time around 1968/69....on an 'F' plate if memory serves.

It went like shit of a shovel with the six cylinder lump from the Triumph 2000 and GT6. :y

Lots of wood and a rev counter made this a saloon of 'sporting intent' :y

 
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 13:19:26
It's a front wheel driven diesel for work. Doubt there'll be a lot of excitement once all is revealed.

I'm sure that Mr Tunnie wouldn't dream of buying a dull car. ::)
I have a worry that he's gone and bought a Ford*

*Part of PAG

Not Ford. But it does have a heated front screen  :)

Jaguar? - but which model -X type AWD?

Not a Jag, I really loved the XF. My budget saw the 1st Gen versions with 3.0d engines, very nice, could really see me owning on. Portfolio spec with B&W sounds? Yes please!

All going well, until we tried to fit basic pram stuff in the boot. No good.  :'(

This car will be used 90% for my work, but agreed with MrsT it would need to take Little MissT's pram and basic cot bed needs if required (in-case of the 3.2 not working) - sadly XF could not do this. Our budget was way off the Sportback  :'(

XFR is to portfolio specification, and a little bit more. The meridian 825W sound system is excellent. :y

I'm sure an LPG tank could be fitted to the boot. :y

I think even on Portfolio B&W sounds were extra? FatherT's is Portfolio spec and has the 825w system I think, as the B&W have branded subs on back parcel shelf.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: henryd on 11 September 2016, 13:24:52
If its not Ford or Jag then it has to be Landrover as nowt else can have heated front glass,I guess freelander 2 ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 13:32:56
If its not Ford or Jag then it has to be Landrover as nowt else can have heated front glass,I guess freelander 2 ::)

Well that's what I thought, I never knew this brand of car could have one. But it does, as did others I looked at, so it's a factory fit.

It's not one from JLR group  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 13:44:43
If its not Ford or Jag then it has to be Landrover as nowt else can have heated front glass,I guess freelander 2 ::)

Well that's what I thought, I never knew this brand of car could have one. But it does, as did others I looked at, so it's a factory fit.

It's not one from JLR group  :y

This statement suggests surprise at how well specified his new car is.

I reckon it's oriental.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 14:01:37
Some of the spec:

Bi-Xenon Lights
Full Leather Sports Seats
Cruise Control
Sat-Nav with Bluetooth Audio/USB/SD card etc.
Electric Handbrake as standard, takes some getting used it.
Parking sensors front and rear, linked to the display in the car.
Heated front screen, along with the rear.

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 September 2016, 14:02:37
Dacia Duster.  :y :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 14:03:45
Some of the spec:

Bi-Xenon Lights
Full Leather Sports Seats
Cruise Control
Sat-Nav with Bluetooth Audio/USB/SD card etc.
Electric Handbrake as standard, takes some getting used it.
Parking sensors front and rear, linked to the display in the car.
Heated front screen, along with the rear.

Could be just about anything. :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 14:14:43
Dacia Duster.  :y :)

I'd rather walk.  ;D

Some of the spec:

Bi-Xenon Lights
Full Leather Sports Seats
Cruise Control
Sat-Nav with Bluetooth Audio/USB/SD card etc.
Electric Handbrake as standard, takes some getting used it.
Parking sensors front and rear, linked to the display in the car.
Heated front screen, along with the rear.

Could be just about anything. :)

Yes, but in answer to your earlier theory, it's not oriental.  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 September 2016, 14:15:17
A heated screen button on the dash does not a heated screen make :-X

My BMW has a heat retention system, which is basically a sodium filled bladder under the front scuttle near as I can tell... pretty much instant heat as soon as the engine is running 8)

Can have warm air on the screen with blowers at Max by simply pressing the Front Screen button on the climate panel, and unlike the Omega one, it actually works :D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 14:16:29
It has the fine metal strands within the front windscreen glass, it's a proper heated front screen  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 September 2016, 14:18:29
It's a Seat. Probably a Leon, and possibly an ST. Almost certainly a 1.6 Tdi, DSG if the original Auto brief has been met.

Basically a VW Golf/Skoda Octavia/Audi A3/4 with the same seats and running gear. :-X
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 14:20:06
Auto requirement not met, too heavy on fuel and limited my used car choice too much.

Not a Seat  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 September 2016, 14:22:10
Auto requirement not met, too heavy on fuel and limited my used car choice too much.

Not a Seat  :y
Octavia then...
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 14:28:26
Auto requirement not met, too heavy on fuel and limited my used car choice too much.

Not a Seat  :y
Octavia then...

Nope.  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 September 2016, 14:30:42
Passat  ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 September 2016, 14:31:58
Passat  ;)
Skoda Oxymoron?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 14:33:57
Lets narrow this down.....before I die of extreme old age

Is the car Scandinavian?

Is the car European?

Is the car from the 'good ol'  US of A?

Is it from the Eastern bloc?.......have you bought a Trabant? ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 14:35:44
Passat  ;)
Skoda Oxymoron?

Nope

Lets narrow this down.....before I die of extreme old age

Is the car Scandinavian?

Is the car European?

Is the car from the 'good ol'  US of A?

Is it from the Eastern bloc?.......have you bought a Trabant? ;)

Europe  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 14:36:53
Passat  ;)
Skoda Oxymoron?

Nope

Lets narrow this down.....before I die of extreme old age

Is the car Scandinavian?

Is the car European?

Is the car from the 'good ol'  US of A?

Is it from the Eastern bloc?.......have you bought a Trabant? ;)

Europe  :
y

Italian flair or German pragmatism?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 September 2016, 14:41:42
Of course, it's a Volvo.... Now which one? Guessing S80. Possibly S60.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 14:44:23
Of course, it's a Volvo.... Now which one? Guessing S80. Possibly S60.

Sweden is part of Scandinavia, but perhaps geography is not Tunnie's strong point.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 14:47:14
It's German....
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 September 2016, 14:53:43
It's German....
BMW 1 Series...

Convertible.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 September 2016, 14:54:58
Golf derivative...
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: citroenguy on 11 September 2016, 15:05:49
Audi/ VW? (God forbid)
Vauxhall? = Opel = German

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 15:46:20
Not one of those FWD Mercedes that failed the 'elk test'?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 September 2016, 17:09:18
Certainly not a car I would aspire to own.  But then, as I've found out in the last 3 or 4 months, there doesn't appear to be a current-ish car for sub £15k that I do aspire to.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: biggriffin on 11 September 2016, 17:25:37
If it has "heated front screen" with little wires it should be a ford because Ford own the patients on that screen.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 17:31:28
Certainly not a car I would aspire to own.  But then, as I've found out in the last 3 or 4 months, there doesn't appear to be a current-ish car for sub £15k that I do aspire to.

What is not a car you would aspire to own,TB?.... ::) ::) :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 17:45:00
If it has "heated front screen" with little wires it should be a ford because Ford own the patients on that screen.

Ford may own the patient, but it's not a Ford.  :y

Photos to follow shortly....
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 17:56:32
If it has "heated front screen" with little wires it should be a ford because Ford own the patients on that screen.

Ford may own the patient, but it's not a Ford.  :y

Photos to follow shortly....

.....and hurry up about it. ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: annihilator on 11 September 2016, 18:02:00
what have ford windscreens got to do with hospitals.......Oh you mean patents  :-*
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 18:05:54
Ooops!   ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 18:11:10
I introduce my Omega replacement, a 2013 '13' plate VW CC.

Perhaps not everyone's choice, but I'm very happy, 6th gear on the motorway it's a great cruiser. It's my first diesel and I think my driving style suits it, I never like to rev too hard.  ;D

Mine is the Mk2 version, the first Mk1 version was called Passat CC, but they dropped Passat from name. I tried both, the Mk2 is considerably more refined, I think its a good looking car. It's 2.0 TDi in manual form, with GT Spec.

First off a big public thanks to JoshW for looking into these at the Auctions for me, many calls and texts over specs and prices and all sorts of other models of car, in an attempt to source on. However I ended up buying elseware as the price was too good to turn down. This surprised us both, this was considerably lower than similar specs selling at auction that day!

Photos...

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Before anyone asks, having a look to see what's what under the bonnet  ;D

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The windscreen which has caused some debate, clearly can see fine lines for wires. There is rain sensor too, so I thought this must be heated and linked to de-mist functions.  :-\

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Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 18:22:06
I like it. :y

Bit racy for you though......and cost more than £6000. :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 18:23:33
I like it. :y

Bit racy for you though......and cost more than £6000. :y

You Sir, I knew I had to impress. If you did not like it, it would have to go back  ;D

Yes, more than £6k. But I still paid a 5 figure sum for it.  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TD on 11 September 2016, 18:29:08
I like it. :y

Bit racy for you though......and cost more than £6000. :y

Yeah I like it too  :y

As far as the heated front screen goes, I don't know of any manu apart from Ford that electrically heat the windscreen.

My Ford has an extra button next to rear demister button for the windscreen heater, so i'd suggest if it hasn't got a button for the windscreen, then it hasn't got one  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 18:31:40
I like it. :y

Bit racy for you though......and cost more than £6000. :y

Yeah I like it too  :y

As far as the heated front screen goes, I don't know of any manu apart from Ford that electrically heat the windscreen.

My Ford has an extra button next to rear demister button for the windscreen heater, so i'd suggest if it hasn't got a button for the windscreen, then it hasn't got one  :-\

Then what are the wires in the windscreen for?  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 18:32:48
Nice and stylish (the rear flanks have a hint of Mercedes CL about them) I like the unusual colour. :y
5000 RPM redline means......the dreaded 'D' word. ::) ::) But apart from that, all good.

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 18:38:00
Nice and stylish (the rear flanks have a hint of Mercedes CL about them) I like the unusual colour. :y
5000 RPM redline means......the dreaded 'D' word. ::) ::) But apart from that, all good.

Yes, me too  :)

I was all set for a Black one, loads of them about. But one I went to see turned out to have zero service history and some marks on the bumpers, so walked away. I had seen this one online, I was not sure about the colour, but when I saw it in the flesh I thought it looks really smart.  8)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TD on 11 September 2016, 18:38:41
PS buy a diesel pick up pump for the fuel tank.....it will fail....at some point....carnt remember the mileage of my Passat when it failed, probably between 150 and 200k but found out they all fail at some point!  ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TD on 11 September 2016, 18:44:08
I like it. :y

Bit racy for you though......and cost more than £6000. :y

Yeah I like it too  :y

As far as the heated front screen goes, I don't know of any manu apart from Ford that electrically heat the windscreen.

My Ford has an extra button next to rear demister button for the windscreen heater, so i'd suggest if it hasn't got a button for the windscreen, then it hasn't got one  :-\

Then what are the wires in the windscreen for?  :-\

Its unclear in your photos if the 'wires' are continuous, are they?  :-\ you should be able to see a clear wire from top to bottom if you look closely.....
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 18:45:43
I like it. :y

Bit racy for you though......and cost more than £6000. :y

Yeah I like it too  :y

As far as the heated front screen goes, I don't know of any manu apart from Ford that electrically heat the windscreen.

My Ford has an extra button next to rear demister button for the windscreen heater, so i'd suggest if it hasn't got a button for the windscreen, then it hasn't got one  :-\

Then what are the wires in the windscreen for?  :-\

Its unclear in your photos if the 'wires' are continuous, are they?  :-\ you should be able to see a clear wire from top to bottom if you look closely.....

Yes, entire length of the windscreen every few mm's or so.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 18:46:18
PS buy a diesel pick up pump for the fuel tank.....it will fail....at some point....carnt remember the mileage of my Passat when it failed, probably between 150 and 200k but found out they all fail at some point!  ;)

Got some miles to go yet then  ;D

Don't suppose you bought VCDS software did you?  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 September 2016, 18:48:16
Nice car Tunnie!  That's a great colour!  8)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 September 2016, 19:26:14
PS buy a diesel pick up pump for the fuel tank.....it will fail....at some point....carnt remember the mileage of my Passat when it failed, probably between 150 and 200k but found out they all fail at some point!  ;)

Got some miles to go yet then  ;D

Don't suppose you bought VCDS software did you?  :)
Its quite pricey for legit versions but might be worth it.

Note that any trip to dealer will result in any non authorised mods being reset.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2016, 19:26:46
I like it. :y

Bit racy for you though......and cost more than £6000. :y

Yeah I like it too  :y

As far as the heated front screen goes, I don't know of any manu apart from Ford that electrically heat the windscreen.

My Ford has an extra button next to rear demister button for the windscreen heater, so i'd suggest if it hasn't got a button for the windscreen, then it hasn't got one  :-\

Then what are the wires in the windscreen for?  :-\

Its unclear in your photos if the 'wires' are continuous, are they?  :-\ you should be able to see a clear wire from top to bottom if you look closely.....

Yes, entire length of the windscreen every few mm's or so.

It looks like my car.Thin wavy lines about 2mm apart  running down the screen.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 19:35:28
PS buy a diesel pick up pump for the fuel tank.....it will fail....at some point....carnt remember the mileage of my Passat when it failed, probably between 150 and 200k but found out they all fail at some point!  ;)

Got some miles to go yet then  ;D

Don't suppose you bought VCDS software did you?  :)
Its quite pricey for legit versions but might be worth it.

Note that any trip to dealer will result in any non authorised mods being reset.

Don't want it for Mods, more like winding the rear calipers back for the electric hand brake, so I can change rear pads.

Also fuel filter priming, to remove air from system. Some say pre-soak filters, others say you must use VCDS to prime the system. I'ts not like older PD units, Common Rail more sensitive to air.  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: RobG on 11 September 2016, 19:47:20
Quote
Then what are the wires in the windscreen for?
Heated front screen. Factory fit option only
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 19:48:26
Quote
Then what are the wires in the windscreen for?
Heated front screen. Factory fit option only

That's what I thought  :y

Must be linked to front de-mist functions, should fine out in next month or two  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: STEMO on 11 September 2016, 20:09:24
Nice car, Tunnie, and I love the colour  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 20:31:39
Thanks all, so far few thoughts:

Electric Handbrake - It has 'auto hold' I'm sure all others are similar, but I like the way this works. Any slight hill or anything, come to a stop, take it out of gear, all feet off pedals, car holds position. Dip the clutch as normal, at the bite point to pull away it automatically disengages. Makes life easier.

You have to press the brake and depress the clutch, in order to start the car. I always dipped clutch before, so no big change here.

Like the boot fully opens on press of the button, unlike the Omega just 'popping' it actually fully opens.

In the boot has a couple of handles, pull these and rear seats fold down. They also have these little hooks, handy for shopping bags. See here:

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Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 11 September 2016, 20:53:44
Thanks all, so far few thoughts:

Electric Handbrake - It has 'auto hold' I'm sure all others are similar, but I like the way this works. Any slight hill or anything, come to a stop, take it out of gear, all feet off pedals, car holds position. Dip the clutch as normal, at the bite point to pull away it automatically disengages. Makes life easier.



Easier until it doesn't release. Which happens a lot quicker if you use the auto hold. The recovery driver will hate you, and when you get the repair bill, you'll hate the whole idea.


It's a nice car, but they do make me wonder why they bothered with the ordinary Passat.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Andy B on 11 September 2016, 21:50:44
....

Like the boot fully opens on press of the button, unlike the Omega just 'popping' it actually fully opens.
 .....

but does it fully close on its own too ...... like mine?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 22:08:52
....

Like the boot fully opens on press of the button, unlike the Omega just 'popping' it actually fully opens.
 .....

but does it fully close on its own too ...... like mine?  ::) ::)

Sadly no, but its far smaller than R class, so easily flicked down.

It's no posh Merc  :P

I looked at E Class Estates, I was disappointed with the seats and could not get comfy.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Andy B on 11 September 2016, 22:23:26
  ....

It's no posh Merc  :P
 ....

 ;D

I do like the look of the CC ......as suggested, very similar styling to the CLS Mercs ....... just don't like FWD
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2016, 22:28:58
  ....

It's no posh Merc  :P
 ....

 ;D

I do like the look of the CC ......as suggested, very similar styling to the CLS Mercs ....... just don't like FWD

Yes, CLS with bigger boot, with far better kit, lower price and better MPG.

I'm not sure I'll notice RWD, I don't push cars hard enough. Guess it's just ride for FWD is harder due to front wheels powering, and RWD tend to ride better. As a commuter 50 miles a day, doubt will be much difference.  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Andy B on 11 September 2016, 23:01:47
....

Yes, CLS with bigger boot, with far better kit, .....

and all as standard probably

I... As a commuter 50 miles a day, doubt will be much difference.  :-\

probably not   :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 September 2016, 00:23:41
I wouldn't have, but hope it serves you well :y

Not seen one that colour  8) most around here are either go faster black, or ultra rare silver ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 September 2016, 02:21:22
Passat  ;)

So... I wasn't really far off :-X ::)

Looks nice Tunnie... Hope it serves you well :y :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 September 2016, 08:18:28
I wouldn't have, but hope it serves you well :y

Not seen one that colour  8) most around here are either go faster black, or ultra rare silver ::)

I've not seen any this colour either, looks even better in flesh so to speak. I was set on a black one, but when I saw this I liked it straight away  :y

Passat  ;)

So... I wasn't really far off :-X ::)

Looks nice Tunnie... Hope it serves you well :y :y

It has some very big boots to fill, shall see.  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 12 September 2016, 11:10:16
Nice car Tunnie - 150 or 190 engine? (You probably said, I probably missed it)

I'm averaging ~50mpg in mine so you should better that with the manual box by at leat 5mpg, maybe 10 if it's the lower HP version.

Heated front screen is a nice addition (and as you've found it's far from just Ford - heck, I can buy one for the kit car! Ford appear to have licensed the technology to just about anyone who'll pay.. oddly enough), loved it on the truck and will miss it on the Skoda.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: henryd on 12 September 2016, 11:16:23
Nice car Tunnie - 150 or 190 engine? (You probably said, I probably missed it)

I'm averaging ~50mpg in mine so you should better that with the manual box by at leat 5mpg, maybe 10 if it's the lower HP version.

Heated front screen is a nice addition (and as you've found it's far from just Ford - heck, I can buy one for the kit car! Ford appear to have licensed the technology to just about anyone who'll pay.. oddly enough), loved it on the truck and will miss it on the Skoda.

Up until quite recently it was only Ford, Jag ,L/rover,they used to be quite portective of it too :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 September 2016, 11:17:50
Nice car Tunnie - 150 or 190 engine? (You probably said, I probably missed it)

I'm averaging ~50mpg in mine so you should better that with the manual box by at leat 5mpg, maybe 10 if it's the lower HP version.

Heated front screen is a nice addition (and as you've found it's far from just Ford - heck, I can buy one for the kit car! Ford appear to have licensed the technology to just about anyone who'll pay.. oddly enough), loved it on the truck and will miss it on the Skoda.

Thanks  :y

CC comes in 130 and 170 form, mine is the 130. I've been searching and can't find conclusive differences on the 130/170. Appears to be injectors and maybe the turbo? Not just engine mapping  :-\ - I figured if I wanted to, I could map it, being a manual should not be an issue. Has enough go for me at the moment, shall see.

It needs a damn good service, dealer serviced every 17k or so in the paperwork.

I plan to give it an oil change, air filter and pollen filter myself. But I'm nervous about doing the fuel filter, seen some suggest pre-soak but others advise it must be primed via VCDS/VAGCOM first.

Also need to book it in for a cam belt and water pump change, to be on the safe side.  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 September 2016, 11:28:37
I have to say I find the Passat the worst of the vehicles built on that platform and probably the worst handling of them to (but with your driving that's no issue pmsl).

Keep it well serviced, its not the best high mileage engine about.

Enjoy.

I seem to recall the 170 is a twin turbo setup with different inlet and injectors etc
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: henryd on 12 September 2016, 11:30:45
Nice car Tunnie - 150 or 190 engine? (You probably said, I probably missed it)

I'm averaging ~50mpg in mine so you should better that with the manual box by at leat 5mpg, maybe 10 if it's the lower HP version.

Heated front screen is a nice addition (and as you've found it's far from just Ford - heck, I can buy one for the kit car! Ford appear to have licensed the technology to just about anyone who'll pay.. oddly enough), loved it on the truck and will miss it on the Skoda.

Thanks  :y

CC comes in 130 and 170 form, mine is the 130. I've been searching and can't find conclusive differences on the 130/170. Appears to be injectors and maybe the turbo? Not just engine mapping  :-\ - I figured if I wanted to, I could map it, being a manual should not be an issue. Has enough go for me at the moment, shall see.

It needs a damn good service, dealer serviced every 17k or so in the paperwork.

I plan to give it an oil change, air filter and pollen filter myself. But I'm nervous about doing the fuel filter, seen some suggest pre-soak but others advise it must be primed via VCDS/VAGCOM first.

Also need to book it in for a cam belt and water pump change, to be on the safe side.  :)

My Touareg came to me with full history but only 5 stamps in the book with 100k + miles :o,I've changed the oil three or four times since I've had it :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 September 2016, 12:02:11
I imagine a £300 remap or tuning box would liven up the performance if it's the 130 BHP version.

Some say it will also help the economy. I have my doubts about this.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 12 September 2016, 12:07:58
Nice car Tunnie - 150 or 190 engine? (You probably said, I probably missed it)

I'm averaging ~50mpg in mine so you should better that with the manual box by at leat 5mpg, maybe 10 if it's the lower HP version.

Heated front screen is a nice addition (and as you've found it's far from just Ford - heck, I can buy one for the kit car! Ford appear to have licensed the technology to just about anyone who'll pay.. oddly enough), loved it on the truck and will miss it on the Skoda.

Up until quite recently it was only Ford, Jag ,L/rover,they used to be quite portective of it too :y

You can have one for literally anything now - even an Omega if you really want (would be a custom order, though) - http://www.heatedwindscreen.com/

Kevin could even have one in the Westfield .. although if there's ice on the screen it's probably best he not go out in it ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 September 2016, 12:54:35
Nice car Tunnie - 150 or 190 engine? (You probably said, I probably missed it)

I'm averaging ~50mpg in mine so you should better that with the manual box by at leat 5mpg, maybe 10 if it's the lower HP version.

Heated front screen is a nice addition (and as you've found it's far from just Ford - heck, I can buy one for the kit car! Ford appear to have licensed the technology to just about anyone who'll pay.. oddly enough), loved it on the truck and will miss it on the Skoda.

Up until quite recently it was only Ford, Jag ,L/rover,they used to be quite portective of it too :y

You can have one for literally anything now - even an Omega if you really want (would be a custom order, though) - http://www.heatedwindscreen.com/

Kevin could even have one in the Westfield .. although if there's ice on the screen it's probably best he not go out in it ;D

A windscreen of any description should be considered a luxury. Real Westfield owners should have bugs between their teeth. ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: henryd on 12 September 2016, 13:20:25
Nice car Tunnie - 150 or 190 engine? (You probably said, I probably missed it)

I'm averaging ~50mpg in mine so you should better that with the manual box by at leat 5mpg, maybe 10 if it's the lower HP version.

Heated front screen is a nice addition (and as you've found it's far from just Ford - heck, I can buy one for the kit car! Ford appear to have licensed the technology to just about anyone who'll pay.. oddly enough), loved it on the truck and will miss it on the Skoda.

Up until quite recently it was only Ford, Jag ,L/rover,they used to be quite portective of it too :y

You can have one for literally anything now - even an Omega if you really want (would be a custom order, though) - http://www.heatedwindscreen.com/

Kevin could even have one in the Westfield .. although if there's ice on the screen it's probably best he not go out in it ;D

Does Kevin do post count 'er adjustment ??? ::)

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 September 2016, 14:20:42
Neighbour has had both previous and current Octaves VRS Tdis remapped... Vastly improves driveability and slightly improves economy as you then don't need to be ragging to make progress ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 12 September 2016, 16:28:58
Does Kevin do post count 'er adjustment ??? ::)

I didn't even mention Meganes or ditches though ...  :-X


Speaking of remapping, it was the first thing I googled for the Skoda ;D Maybe doing it in the running in period is asking for trouble, though  :-[
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 12 September 2016, 16:46:05
Neighbour has had both previous and current Octaves VRS Tdis remapped... Vastly improves driveability and slightly improves economy as you then don't need to be ragging to make progress ;)

It's on the list to consider at some point, will see how I get on with standard map for now
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TD on 13 September 2016, 18:29:07
Tunnie - Presumably you bought the car from a Volkswagen dealer (a couple of the pics are on a forecourt and I can see "Volkswagen" in one of the pics) and they gave you something like a 12 month warranty on it?

I know when I bought my 2.2 from a VX dealer it had 6 months of VX warranty left on it and the dealer also gave me 12 month NetworkQ warranty on it too.

If so, wouldn't it make sense to take it do the vw dealer for at least oil changes, just so you get a stamp in the service book (as I did with my 2.2) in case you need to have work done under the warranty? If the service book is stamped upto date, they carnt claim warranty is invalid as you haven't been having it serviced  :y

If you bought from a 'back street' dealer and he gave you a 'generic' warranty on it.......then ignore the above as the warranty will be worth jack sh*t  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 13 September 2016, 18:59:25
Car Giant.  :)

Each area had a big sign like that, huge hall with Audi above it must have had 150 Audis there. Then walk in the Ford area, another 150 of them. BMW area must have had about 200 in stock.

Go there on a week day though, it's nuts at weekend. They close at 10pm Mon-Sat, so easily go after work. I found so many dealers and sellers shut at 5:30. So fairly useless!!

Comes with AA warranty, i specially checked it only needs to be serviced regularly and I don't have to use genuine parts.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 13 September 2016, 19:02:49
i specially checked it only needs to be serviced regularly
Probably worth maintaining an annual stamp, as you'd be surprised how they all try to wriggle out. But, TBH, these warranties aren't worth the paper they are written on.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 September 2016, 20:14:52

Comes with AA warranty, i specially checked it only needs to be serviced regularly and I don't have to use genuine parts.

That's surprising, as most warranties I've seen require servicing to be done by a VAT registered garage or dealer, using genuine parts.  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 13 September 2016, 21:07:45

Comes with AA warranty, i specially checked it only needs to be serviced regularly and I don't have to use genuine parts.

That's surprising, as most warranties I've seen require servicing to be done by a VAT registered garage or dealer, using genuine parts.  :-\

Yes it is, I triple checked  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Lazydocker on 13 September 2016, 22:21:19
Car Giant.  :)

Each area had a big sign like that, huge hall with Audi above it must have had 150 Audis there. Then walk in the Ford area, another 150 of them. BMW area must have had about 200 in stock.

Go there on a week day though, it's nuts at weekend. They close at 10pm Mon-Sat, so easily go after work. I found so many dealers and sellers shut at 5:30. So fairly useless!!

Comes with AA warranty, i specially checked it only needs to be serviced regularly and I don't have to use genuine parts.

I hope they've improved since the days when I bought a car from one of their previous incarnations :-X ::)

As for the warranty... Check again... I'll be amazed if DIY servicing will keep the warrant valid ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 13 September 2016, 22:25:07
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• have been modifi ed from the manufacturer’s specifi cation (unless agreed by Us);
• are used for road-racing, rallying, or any other competitive event.


What are the servicing requirements?
Failure to service Your Vehicle in line with the manufacturer’s recommendations will not invalidate the cover. However, Gold Cover will not cover faults attributable to or caused by lack of routine or regular maintenance. It is Your responsibility to ensure that Your Vehicle is maintained in a legal and roadworthy condition at all times (preferably by following the manufacturer’s recommended service schedule).


Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 13 September 2016, 22:27:01
That's only section on servicing, confirmed that DIY service & non gen parts are fine.  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Lazydocker on 13 September 2016, 22:28:09
All well and good, but I'd still want written confirmation that DIY servicing counts as maintaining it to manufacturers specification :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 September 2016, 22:31:43
Quote
Car Giant
This saga has legs... :-X
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 13 September 2016, 22:31:57
I cannot fault the experience, turn up look at cars. Go to the reception desk, give reg of the car you like. They take some details and your keys and hand keys over for the car. You then get to look it over, start it, open everything in peace with no sales guy trying to flog you everything and say how good it is.

Return, either ask for test drive or another car to look at.

Prices are fixed, no haggling, but this was cheapest example I'd seen of this spec, even JoshW could not beat this, one 6 months older on a 63 plate, but 10k more miles, went for nearly £1k more at Auction in Bedford.

Turn up the next day, after doing the deal. Wack the debit card in, pay, keys handed over and you drive off. Faultless experience really.

All warranty/insurance is a fight when you actually want to claim, so it's peace of mind really. But I confirmed that dealer service is not a requirement, I shall keep invoices of service parts, get an annual stamp from VW. Some things I'll get them to do, such as fuel filter and cambelt/water pump.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 September 2016, 22:34:19
A former colleague bought an Alhambra from them... Motd prior to collection.

It then failed it's Taxi mechanical inspection due to tyre and exhaust faults.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 13 September 2016, 22:46:28
A former colleague bought an Alhambra from them... Motd prior to collection.

It then failed it's Taxi mechanical inspection due to tyre and exhaust faults.

And your point being? No place is ever perfect, no garage will get 100% 5* reviews.

But wait no, I should buy a used POS Ford, try and flog it but it failed on way to the seller.

Buyer must have thought they had a lucky escape, a car you thought was good enough to sell failed on the way.

F*ck sake really do get tired of this place now.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Mister Rog on 13 September 2016, 22:57:47
Car Giant.  :)


Have to say that I've bought a few cars through them, including my first Omega a while back.

I like them. No BS. Here's the price, buy it yes or no. Warranties ? In my experience everyone will always try to wriggle out of what you think they should do. A sales tool for the franchised dealers.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 13 September 2016, 23:01:57
Car Giant.  :)


Have to say that I've bought a few cars through them, including my first Omega a while back.

I like them. No BS. Here's the price, buy it yes or no. Warranties ? In my experience everyone will always try to wriggle out of what you think they should do. A sales tool for the franchised dealers.

Yes I liked this too  :y

There were some duffers there, clearly ones that had big dents/scuffs and some interiors were badly scratched. You could tell which ones had good owners, but clean un-marked interiors and the state of the alloys.

One BMW 63 Plate 5 series I started, said it had service over-due by 950 miles.  ;D

So just look carefully and takes your choice.

Any big company will have people who like/hate it, take Sky, some love it (who don't work there) others say they are terrible with rubbish customer services. I only have to look at our App reviews to see some 5* some 1*
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 September 2016, 23:09:34
I wouldn't have offered it for sale if I was expecting it to fail ::)

I might be an arse on occasion, but I'm not a complete idiot :-X
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 14 September 2016, 08:41:39
As expected, they have left enough wiggle room in the written T&Cs to make the warranty nigh on useless, irrespective of who services it.  DIY servicing just makes it easier.

But we all know the warranty is useless anyway (nothing specific against CG or AA, they all are, purely to protect the seller, and gives the buyer a (false) warm feeling), and you'll probably be getting an annual VW stamp anyway, so its probably a moot point, so lets move on...
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 09:35:05
....onto fuel consumption. I know it's over due a service and looking to get my hands dirty not this weekend but next. As it's been 17k since anything was changed. I'm planning oil, filter, air and pollen myself and garage for the fuel filter.

Even so I managed this on the way home yesterday...

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/IMG_4693.jpg)

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/IMG_4692.jpg)

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 14 September 2016, 09:47:49
Not bad at all - I see similar out of mine despite the DSG which I guess shows the difference between generations of VAG engines (yours being one generation prior to mine and DSG being 5-10mpg worse than manual); and you don't have to arse about with AdBlue, either  :y (And it'll have cost you a lot less!  :-[ ;D )
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 09:55:50
 :y :y :y

Mine is a 13 Plate, but told it was a 2014 model on the VW forums  :-\

I think a damn good service will see this rise a bit, plus my commute is not the most ideal for fuel consumption  ::)

Off back home for first time in ages this weekend, so looking forward to a long motorway blast to see what I can get.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 14 September 2016, 09:59:37
Depending on your definition of "blast" you might not see it rise much - if I sit at *cough* 70 *cough* I see ~47mpg, my regular commute (which, starting at 5:30am, varies between 40 & *cough* 70 *cough) gets ~51mpg.. granted there's only 2000 miles on the clock so it's all still a bit tight in there and might improve with age.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 10:19:14
Well when I say blast, I mean 70-80ish cruise.  ;D

But over ~70 odd miles, not my 25 mile run to work. I'll see how it gets on, but being a diesel once every week or so, I'll drive like a stole it, make sure to keep things clear  :D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 September 2016, 10:19:21
Bah! Listen to you tractorites.

I've decided. My next car is going to be a milk float like Guffers'. Even if it sounds like a washing machine on its' spin cycle. ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgD2USbGXs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgD2USbGXs)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 10:25:23
I also now have full written confirmation:

Mr T
 
Thank you for your email.
 
As you mention we recommend the car is serviced in line with the manufacturers guidelines but we make no stipulation  on where you choose to have the servicing carried out.   If you prefer to carry out the servicing yourself then exactly as you state,  keep all the invoices for the parts you purchase in case they need to be submitted as part of a claim.
 
Should you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact us.
 
Yours sincerely,
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 10:25:54
Bah! Listen to you tractorites.

I've decided. My next car is going to be a milk float like Guffers'. Even if it sounds like a washing machine on its' spin cycle. ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgD2USbGXs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgD2USbGXs)

Why do they have the fans on, it's electric! Or does it have Samsung Note 7 batteries?  :D  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 September 2016, 10:42:20
That's good Tunnie.  :y  Put us all in our places as well!  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 10:44:53
That's good Tunnie.  :y  Put us all in our places as well!  ;D

It was a fair point, I only had verbal confirmation. But I now have it in writing, also hats off to the AA's warranty, I emailed them at 11PM last night.

10:30 AM this morning, confirmation that I can service it myself  :)

Of course any claim will be a fight, but that's what insurance companies do!
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 14 September 2016, 11:01:20
I'm wondering how changing the oil is going to improve the fuel economy? It's not like a service on an old car where adjusting out the wear in the valve clearances, distributor/ignition timing, carburetor, clutch etc did make a noticeable difference.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: STEMO on 14 September 2016, 11:10:58
I like your car, Tunnie. I've said it before on here, enjoy it and take no notice of the naysayers. I saw on down the road exactly the same colour yesterday, they are a big car and have a very pleasing style.
Unfortunately...it was towing a pikey wagon and the driver was about 120.  ;D


As an aside, VW are the only manufacturer to use 'CC' without it meaning cabriolet coupe, apparently it means comfort coupe.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: biggriffin on 14 September 2016, 11:46:35
As long as its serviced to manufacture intervals, that means keep all the receipts for parts bought.
Vehicles now days don't have to be dealer serviced, just maintained to manufacture's points..
It's all thanks to the Eu, the car makers tried to stop it going thro, EU said no, because they had a cartel.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 September 2016, 12:09:48
....onto fuel consumption. I know it's over due a service and looking to get my hands dirty not this weekend but next. As it's been 17k since anything was changed. I'm planning oil, filter, air and pollen myself and garage for the fuel filter.

Even so I managed this on the way home yesterday...

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/IMG_4693.jpg)

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/IMG_4692.jpg)

That is just showing off. ;)

Overall my trip computer is now showing 19.1 MPG....up from 18.7.

However, I managed an impressive 22.3 MPG the other day when driving like an old woman.

I actually considered an R36 Passat before buying the Jag. Very rare, 4 wheel drive and 300 BHP. :y

I also considered an RS6. I didn't get to drive one but reports call it 'numb and sterile' although very fast.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 12:20:47
I like your car, Tunnie. I've said it before on here, enjoy it and take no notice of the naysayers. I saw on down the road exactly the same colour yesterday, they are a big car and have a very pleasing style.
Unfortunately...it was towing a pikey wagon and the driver was about 120.  ;D


As an aside, VW are the only manufacturer to use 'CC' without it meaning cabriolet coupe, apparently it means comfort coupe.

Thats STEMO.  :y :y

It really is very, very comfy. It's one of few VAG's I've found comfy, as I took an Uber from office to Car Giant to pick it up.  VW Sharan it was, my back was killing me on a short 40 min run. Rock hard seats, yet the ones in the CC are super comfy.

I'm seeing a few CC's about, none in my colour through.  8)

As long as its serviced to manufacture intervals, that means keep all the receipts for parts bought.
Vehicles now days don't have to be dealer serviced, just maintained to manufacture's points..
It's all thanks to the Eu, the car makers tried to stop it going thro, EU said no, because they had a cartel.

Yes, I'll be keeping a folder of all the bits and invoices and such. I'm going to oil service at least every 5k for a while, then maybe stretch them out.  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 12:23:31
....onto fuel consumption. I know it's over due a service and looking to get my hands dirty not this weekend but next. As it's been 17k since anything was changed. I'm planning oil, filter, air and pollen myself and garage for the fuel filter.

Even so I managed this on the way home yesterday...


That is just showing off. ;)

Overall my trip computer is now showing 19.1 MPG....up from 18.7.

However, I managed an impressive 22.3 MPG the other day when driving like an old woman.

I actually considered an R36 Passat before buying the Jag. Very rare, 4 wheel drive and 300 BHP. :y

I also considered an RS6. I didn't get to drive one but reports call it 'numb and sterile' although very fast.

I'm hopefully going to show off even more after some decent long rungs at the weekend.  :P  :D

I very strongly considered an XF 3.0d, just a shame the boot was too small. Also quite a bit more pricey the XF was, I was looking at 09-11 Plates, I was surprised I could get a 13 plate CC with my budget.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 September 2016, 13:37:00
I was surprised I could get a 13 plate CC with my budget.

Did you try and trade in the 2.2?  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 14:16:46
I was surprised I could get a 13 plate CC with my budget.

Did you try and trade in the 2.2?  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes. While I was waiting, some other couple had their car reviewed, some French thing I think. Must have been there for 10/15 mins going over it all.

So when walking over, the chap asks, has it had "GardX", I politely say no. Shame he says, as they hold their value more  :o :o

Err yeah Right.

So he looks at my 2.2 and says he's not seen one of those in years!  ;D

60 seconds later we are back inside and he offers me £50.

 ;D ;D ;D


 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 September 2016, 14:20:47
I was surprised I could get a 13 plate CC with my budget.

Did you try and trade in the 2.2?  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes. While I was waiting, some other couple had their car reviewed, some French thing I think. Must have been there for 10/15 mins going over it all.

So when walking over, the chap asks, has it had "GardX", I politely say no. Shame he says, as they hold their value more  :o :o

Err yeah Right.

So he looks at my 2.2 and says he's not seen one of those in years!  ;D

60 seconds later we are back inside and he offers me £50.

 ;D ;D ;D


 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Yes, dealer's like to insult potential customers.

I was offered £850 for my 2007 Signum.

The 2.8 Turbo petrol model is rare.

I'm glad I still have it, even if I have to pay out another £515 for tax each year,
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 14 September 2016, 14:32:35
I was surprised I could get a 13 plate CC with my budget.

Did you try and trade in the 2.2?  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D


So he looks at my 2.2 and says he's not seen one of those in years!  ;D

60 seconds later we are back inside and he offers me £50.

 ;D ;D ;D



So he's a member here, and knows how much they're worth ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 September 2016, 14:42:16
I was surprised I could get a 13 plate CC with my budget.

Did you try and trade in the 2.2?  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D


So he looks at my 2.2 and says he's not seen one of those in years!  ;D

60 seconds later we are back inside and he offers me £50.

 ;D ;D ;D



So he's a member here, and knows how much they're worth ;D
Yes. His name is Mr Fagin. :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: YZ250 on 14 September 2016, 15:54:04
I'll match you and raise you nineteen.  ;D  Must try harder Tunnie, and welcome to the diesel world.  :y

Very nice car by the way.  :y  As I said earlier in the thread, a chap I worked with has had one from new and gets on fine with it.  :y  He did have dpf issues but he drives like a girl so I'm not diss'ing the car for that.  :y  They're on the style of the Merc Coupe.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsufwj4mpj.jpeg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/Alan-Hearn/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsufwj4mpj.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 15:56:47
Yes, thanks  :y

Each time I walk up to it I think it's a fine looking car, with a Phaeton type nose.

69  :o

From 435d - that must be after light motorway cruise?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: YZ250 on 14 September 2016, 16:02:37
Yes, thanks  :y

Each time I walk up to it I think it's a fine looking car, with a Phaeton type nose.

69  :o

From 435d - that must be after light motorway cruise?

Errr, no, not in the 435, that does around 47mpg on a long run.  It was in a baby beemer, not mine though.  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 16:13:21
Yes, thanks  :y

Each time I walk up to it I think it's a fine looking car, with a Phaeton type nose.

69  :o

From 435d - that must be after light motorway cruise?

Was going to say  :D

118d? 120d?


Errr, no, not in the 435, that does around 47mpg on a long run.  It was in a baby beemer, not mine though.  :y

I really did like the 5 Series F10, I *almost* put a deposit down on a 520d Estate, 62 Plate, Sport Pack and Pro Nav, loved it. Seats are seriously comfy in the sport, with the tilt and that leg support thing that slides out, Pro Nav was simply amazing, huge screen, high res. Economical too.

But they closed and could not take the deposit after I did my thinking, I was a bit late in going back, as it was almost an impulse buy, as it was over budget and had quite high miles.

But at the age and miles, i was concerned about running costs and lack of DIY resources out there.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 September 2016, 16:29:26
F10 is a good looking car, possibly a bit new for diy info though :-\

That said, the E39 is a breeze to work on, and a plethora of sources for various jobs online 8)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: YZ250 on 14 September 2016, 17:04:09
Yes, thanks  :y

Each time I walk up to it I think it's a fine looking car, with a Phaeton type nose.

69  :o

From 435d - that must be after light motorway cruise?
Errr, no, not in the 435, that does around 47mpg on a long run.  It was in a baby beemer, not mine though.  :y
Was going to say  :D

118d? 120d?

Wife's 420d, baby as in engine size, not body size.  :y  And yes, it was a very steady motorway cruise.  :y  Normal figures for mostly town use are mid 40's so still not bad for a fairly big lump.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: STEMO on 14 September 2016, 17:37:22
My little 1.4 petrol pulls my weighty astra estate around (slowly) and returns about 40 round town.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 14 September 2016, 18:00:49
Good news on the written confirmation tunnie :y


I think I manage about 30mpg from my shitbox diesel.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 18:35:33
Good news on the written confirmation tunnie :y


I think I manage about 30mpg from my shitbox diesel.

It was a good point I did not have it written, email backed up, copy printed of entire thread.  :)

Averaged 52mpg on way back today, need to give it a good service.

Think 60mpg+ is doable on a longer run, average since start when I came off M3 for home was 54mpg.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 18:37:26
F10 is a good looking car, possibly a bit new for diy info though :-\

That said, the E39 is a breeze to work on, and a plethora of sources for various jobs online 8)

Yeah but E39 is old now, googling guides and youTube videos, very little on F10 work. It's out there, but limited for now.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 18:37:56
Yes, thanks  :y

Each time I walk up to it I think it's a fine looking car, with a Phaeton type nose.

69  :o

From 435d - that must be after light motorway cruise?
Errr, no, not in the 435, that does around 47mpg on a long run.  It was in a baby beemer, not mine though.  :y
Was going to say  :D

118d? 120d?

Wife's 420d, baby as in engine size, not body size.  :y  And yes, it was a very steady motorway cruise.  :y  Normal figures for mostly town use are mid 40's so still not bad for a fairly big lump.

 :y :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 14 September 2016, 18:38:01
When I can get nigh on 40mpg from an old design, 3.0l automatic petrol on a long run, I'd hope on a similar run, you'd be well past 60 :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 18:38:43
My little 1.4 petrol pulls my weighty astra estate around (slowly) and returns about 40 round town.

I'm liking diesel so far, really suits my driving style more than petrol.

It's got plenty of go for me, but I've not really stretched it yet.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TD on 14 September 2016, 18:46:21
Good news on the written confirmation tunnie :y


I think I manage about 30mpg from my shitbox diesel.

It was a good point I did not have it written, email backed up, copy printed of entire thread.  :)

Averaged 52mpg on way back today, need to give it a good service.

Think 60mpg+ is doable on a longer run, average since start when I came off M3 for home was 54mpg.

Good figures Mr T......but Id be surprised if a service brings up the mpg....according to fuel computer...

Mines done about 15k since its last service (going in next week) but the fuel comp still reckons its doing the same mpg as it was 15k miles ago  ;)

If the air filter has never been changed in its life, then a new one at your mileage, might make a difference....an oil change wont, but will be good for the engine

So, the place you bought it from doesn't give the car a service then, before you take delivery???  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 14 September 2016, 18:54:39
When I can get nigh on 40mpg from an old design, 3.0l automatic petrol on a long run, I'd hope on a similar run, you'd be well past 60 :y


But you're not are you? That's an equivalent from the fuel cost. If the government increased the tax on LPG, like they did on diesel a few years back, you'd be getting what, 27mpg? Which is easily achievable on petrol.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 19:10:58
Good news on the written confirmation tunnie :y


I think I manage about 30mpg from my shitbox diesel.

It was a good point I did not have it written, email backed up, copy printed of entire thread.  :)

Averaged 52mpg on way back today, need to give it a good service.

Think 60mpg+ is doable on a longer run, average since start when I came off M3 for home was 54mpg.

Good figures Mr T......but Id be surprised if a service brings up the mpg....according to fuel computer...

Mines done about 15k since its last service (going in next week) but the fuel comp still reckons its doing the same mpg as it was 15k miles ago  ;)

If the air filter has never been changed in its life, then a new one at your mileage, might make a difference....an oil change wont, but will be good for the engine

So, the place you bought it from doesn't give the car a service then, before you take delivery???  :-\

No, only if it's due within 1,000 miles.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 14 September 2016, 19:12:14
When I can get nigh on 40mpg from an old design, 3.0l automatic petrol on a long run, I'd hope on a similar run, you'd be well past 60 :y


But you're not are you? That's an equivalent from the fuel cost. If the government increased the tax on LPG, like they did on diesel a few years back, you'd be getting what, 27mpg? Which is easily achievable on petrol.
I have managed 37mpg on a constant-ish motorway run over a tank, in France. Pre LPG days :)

That was the same year I managed an average of 32.5mpg over the entire holiday.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 14 September 2016, 19:14:19
It wasn't quite a full tank, I filled it again as soon as light came on, after I'd done something like 540 miles on the tank.

When I worked it out at the time, it was 37mpg :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 19:28:36
Back in the real world you get 15 on gas more like it  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: YZ250 on 14 September 2016, 19:37:26
........after I'd done something like 540 miles on the tank.

When I worked it out at the time, it was 37mpg :)

If I drive enthusiastically I can get the diesel range to drop as low as that.   ;)

I don't get anywhere near that in the Omega for some reason, do you think something's wrong with it?  :-X ;D

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 14 September 2016, 19:51:26
........after I'd done something like 540 miles on the tank.

When I worked it out at the time, it was 37mpg :)

If I drive enthusiastically I can get the diesel range to drop as low as that.   ;)

I don't get anywhere near that in the Omega for some reason, do you think something's wrong with it?  :-X ;D
You're hard pressed to get 30mpg from the 3.2 at a constant motorway cruise :(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 19:52:15
........after I'd done something like 540 miles on the tank.

When I worked it out at the time, it was 37mpg :)

If I drive enthusiastically I can get the diesel range to drop as low as that.   ;)

I don't get anywhere near that in the Omega for some reason, do you think something's wrong with it?  :-X ;D
You're hard pressed to get 30mpg from the 3.2 at a constant motorway cruise :(

I can barley make it do 27mpg, on a 150 mile run to Wales.

POS engine.  >:(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 14 September 2016, 19:54:09
Back in the real world you get 15 on gas more like it  ::)  ;D
I lack the discipline nowadays. My mpg has dropped since all the 'tards now try to get more mpg, and just get in the way. They've become more of a PITA than pikeys.

With the 3.0, I tend to get around 19-20mpg on gas, which I don't think is too bad given its not driven with any thought to economy :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 14 September 2016, 19:57:25
........after I'd done something like 540 miles on the tank.

When I worked it out at the time, it was 37mpg :)

If I drive enthusiastically I can get the diesel range to drop as low as that.   ;)

I don't get anywhere near that in the Omega for some reason, do you think something's wrong with it?  :-X ;D
You're hard pressed to get 30mpg from the 3.2 at a constant motorway cruise :(

I can barley make it do 27mpg, on a 150 mile run to Wales.

POS engine.  >:(
That surprises me, as I managed 30mpg in my 3.2 between just outside Tenby and Wheatley Asda, 4 up with luggauge, including some *cough* 70mph *cough* up the A34 in a fit of frustration.

But its nowhere near as economical as the 3.0, and marginally less powerful.  That's the penny pinching compromises on it :(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: VXL V6 on 14 September 2016, 19:59:26
It's strange though, I've had four 3.2's (still have three) and there is a difference in MPG between them when doing the same journeys, all are well maintained (well no4 is a project so can't really compare yet). Also a 2.6 with G cams wasn't really much better on MPG against a 3.2 and it would never match the power delivery and effortless cruising of it's big brothers.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 14 September 2016, 20:04:03
My 3.2 does 23mpg. Almostalways on shortish journeys. Slightly better MPG than my 2.5 managed on the same routes.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 14 September 2016, 20:25:01
So another note on the VW, the air-con is silent. Jump in the Omega on a warm day like today, even when parked in a multi-story (so in the shade) the fans blast up to 10,000 rpm and make a huge amount of noise. After about 5 mins the car does actually get cold, but there is always a blast of air sound, so I manually turn the fans down on the climate panel.

Jump in the VW, no sound of air blasting, I've not even left the car park and it's super cold in there.

Just advances in tech I guess, FatherT's XF is same, silent air-con, freezer like temps within seconds. 
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 September 2016, 20:37:01
The system is ten years newer, and the air intake systems are now designed to be unobtrusive. Also, your pollen filter is now under the glove box rather than the scuttle...
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: emailsik on 15 September 2016, 08:42:37
It's sad to find this thread showing the end of the omegas...

I've had my omega 2.6 estate for 5 years. Bought her for 600 quids with an ELM might on. It was just the vaccum pipes that had been mixed up after a cambelt change...

Done 100 000 miles with her all over europe, using ethanol E85 in France at often less than 50 eurocent per litre (you just need to change the injectors for those of a Volvo 760 3litres engine and it does the trick, don't hesitate to ask me for more infos)...

Don't want to see her go... Was thinking of a Volvo XC90 petrol, using ethanol while in France and not using her much while in the uK. Mercedes estates are not very nice. I want a RWD or 4WD. Not much around really.

Now the old girl is playing tricks on me. Sometimes it just would not start. Wait 4 or 5 hrs wherever it has decided to spend a nap and it does start again... Maybe a sign that the time to scrap her has finaly come...

But then looking at what's around and the money spent for a car that will certainly require work and that I will not know as well as I now know the Omega I just feel I am keeping her... So just ordered new fuel pump and relays and crank sensor hoping she'll be running again for few years more...If only I could fit pre facelift seats instead of these horrible CDX cloth seats!

Thank you for this forum that has helped me so often...
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 September 2016, 09:17:49

I can barley make it do 27mpg, on a 150 mile run to Wales.

POS Something wrong with my engine.  >:(

FTFY. ;) I used to get 27 MPG commuting on petrol in the 3.2 and  really had to hammer it to get below low 30's on a motorway run.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 September 2016, 09:31:58

I can barley make it do 27mpg, on a 150 mile run to Wales.

POS Something wrong with my engine.  >:(

FTFY. ;) I used to get 27 MPG commuting on petrol in the 3.2 and  really had to hammer it to get below low 30's on a motorway run.

Even when I first got it, unless I just stuck to 65/75 I could not break 30mpg. Maybe my foot has caught a bit of the fatty admins bad habits.  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 September 2016, 09:38:52
That does sound a little thirsty. :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 September 2016, 13:49:31
It's sad to find this thread showing the end of the omegas...

I've had my omega 2.6 estate for 5 years. Bought her for 600 quids with an ELM might on. It was just the vaccum pipes that had been mixed up after a cambelt change...

Done 100 000 miles with her all over europe, using ethanol E85 in France at often less than 50 eurocent per litre (you just need to change the injectors for those of a Volvo 760 3litres engine and it does the trick, don't hesitate to ask me for more infos)...

Don't want to see her go... Was thinking of a Volvo XC90 petrol, using ethanol while in France and not using her much while in the uK. Mercedes estates are not very nice. I want a RWD or 4WD. Not much around really.

Now the old girl is playing tricks on me. Sometimes it just would not start. Wait 4 or 5 hrs wherever it has decided to spend a nap and it does start again... Maybe a sign that the time to scrap her has finaly come...

But then looking at what's around and the money spent for a car that will certainly require work and that I will not know as well as I now know the Omega I just feel I am keeping her... So just ordered new fuel pump and relays and crank sensor hoping she'll be running again for few years more...If only I could fit pre facelift seats instead of these horrible CDX cloth seats!

Thank you for this forum that has helped me so often...
Crank sensor should be all that's required. Must be genuine thlugh, purchased from a genuine Vx dealer that you genuinely have to walk in to :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 September 2016, 16:06:34
Not bad at all - I see similar out of mine despite the DSG which I guess shows the difference between generations of VAG engines (yours being one generation prior to mine and DSG being 5-10mpg worse than manual); and you don't have to arse about with AdBlue, either  :y (And it'll have cost you a lot less!  :-[ ;D )

You made me think on this, so I googled it all. Turns out on some cars there are fillers in the boot for AdBlue. But I could not see anything in the boot of mine, so got in contact with VW Live Chat, they confirmed my car goes not have AdBlue.  :D

Yet some Passat B7's in the states do, as basically underneath the CC is a B7 Passat.  :-\

Either way, one less thing to top up!
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 15 September 2016, 16:14:21
In the case of the new engines for Skoda (I assume the rest of VAG is the same) the 150 doesn't have AdBlue while the 190 does - it keeps the 190 in the same tax band as the 150  :y (Actually it makes the 190 DSG a band lower than the 150 DSG!)

I imagine the 130/170 was similar, or perhaps different regions for emissions reasons
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 September 2016, 16:20:19
In the case of the new engines for Skoda (I assume the rest of VAG is the same) the 150 doesn't have AdBlue while the 190 does - it keeps the 190 in the same tax band as the 150  :y (Actually it makes the 190 DSG a band lower than the 150 DSG!)

I imagine the 130/170 was similar, or perhaps different regions for emissions reasons

Assume it's same 2.0 lump, it's just engine mapping? Or are the other differences with injectors and turbo? As with CC its 130/170, Skoda it appears 150/190. I'm quite happy with power at the moment from mine, perhaps in a year or two I might consider a re-map.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 September 2016, 16:42:03
In the case of the new engines for Skoda (I assume the rest of VAG is the same) the 150 doesn't have AdBlue while the 190 does - it keeps the 190 in the same tax band as the 150  :y (Actually it makes the 190 DSG a band lower than the 150 DSG!)

I imagine the 130/170 was similar, or perhaps different regions for emissions reasons scams!

 :)  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: citroenguy on 15 September 2016, 17:53:35
The TDi 140/170 is an Euro 5 engine therefore it, like most Euro 5 diesels it doesnt need AdBlue.
The later TDi 150/190 is Euro 6


Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 September 2016, 18:31:53
The TDi 140/170 is an Euro 5 engine therefore it, like most Euro 5 diesels it doesnt need AdBlue.
The later TDi 150/190 is Euro 6

Ah-Ha, Thanks  :y

This forum is still way better than VAG ones  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 September 2016, 19:24:31
Getting better  :)

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/VW-CC/General%20Photos/IMG_4703.jpg)

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/VW-CC/General%20Photos/IMG_4704.jpg)

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/VW-CC/General%20Photos/IMG_4705.jpg)

Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 15 September 2016, 20:46:49
Oh Lordy, we don't have another road user more interested in mpg than progress?

They're getting more problematic than caravanners  :P
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 15 September 2016, 20:54:58
tunnie!

Apologies for being 28pages late to this particular party. Congratulations on the new motor, looks a gem!

Interior looks an especially nice place to be. Considering SWMBO's Yeti surprised me with how nice it was inside, this must be a cut above.

On your heated windscreen, There should be a button above the climate control knobs, on ours it's on the left hand side of the row, next to the heated seat button (if you have them). Ours looks like a bloke sitting down with a stylised lightbulb above his crotch area.  ;D

My new daily whip arrives on Saturday, I can't wait to see the amount of stick the resident old n grumpiest give me over that!  ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 September 2016, 21:41:09
Oh Lordy, we don't have another road user more interested in mpg than progress?

They're getting more problematic than caravanners  :P

Any bets on how long his brake pads will last with all this "hypermiling"?

I'm going for "the rest of the car will wear out first". ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 September 2016, 21:58:54
Oh Lordy, we don't have another road user more interested in mpg than progress?

They're getting more problematic than caravanners  :P

What's the point in driving like a loon? I see it all time, someone weaving out all of the lanes, hard away from the line. Heavy braking, then hard away again. I catch them up at the slip roads, or lights, so whats the point?

Why do I need to rush to get to work, it's only work!  ;D

Besides, so much for my "Diesel Killer" commute  :P
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 September 2016, 21:59:18
Oh Lordy, we don't have another road user more interested in mpg than progress?

They're getting more problematic than caravanners  :P

Any bets on how long his brake pads will last with all this "hypermiling"?

I'm going for "the rest of the car will wear out first". ;D

Given I'm using the auto hold feature, I think the rears will be changed a lot.  :-\
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 15 September 2016, 22:02:57
tunnie!

Apologies for being 28pages late to this particular party. Congratulations on the new motor, looks a gem!

Interior looks an especially nice place to be. Considering SWMBO's Yeti surprised me with how nice it was inside, this must be a cut above.

On your heated windscreen, There should be a button above the climate control knobs, on ours it's on the left hand side of the row, next to the heated seat button (if you have them). Ours looks like a bloke sitting down with a stylised lightbulb above his crotch area.  ;D

My new daily whip arrives on Saturday, I can't wait to see the amount of stick the resident old n grumpiest give me over that!  ::)

Thanks  :y

I've found out it is linked to the 'Max' Demist function, the book says the main row at the top, with bum warmers and so on, but the book is rather generic. As it mentions AdBlue filling point, mine does not have that.

I really liked the quality of VW, feel and look very premium compared to say Vauxhall and Ford. I looked at a £10k Mondeo Estate, popped bonnet, lifted it, thought "humm it's heavy"

Then surprised when it did not take it's own weight, had to put some metal thing up to support it.  ???

Not had one of those in decades, cheapness everywhere with it.

I'd seriously consider a Passat B7 Estate, to replace the 3.2  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 September 2016, 22:05:09
Given I'm using the auto hold feature, I think the rears will be changed a lot.  :-\

Ok. I'll revise my estimate to "the electric parking brake will break first". ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: henryd on 15 September 2016, 22:19:44
Given I'm using the auto hold feature, I think the rears will be changed a lot.  :-\

Ok. I'll revise my estimate to "the electric parking brake will break first". ;)

The hill hold assist on my Touareg uses the main brakes, I dont have electric hancbrake
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 September 2016, 23:21:28
The hill hold assist on my Touareg uses the main brakes, I dont have electric hancbrake

I suppose any car that has traction control or ESP has the hardware in the ABS system to do it, and it's probably smoother to release than a motorised handbrake.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 15 September 2016, 23:27:36
Given I'm using the auto hold feature, I think the rears will be changed a lot.  :-\

Ok. I'll revise my estimate to "the electric parking brake will break first". ;)


Oh yes. They're shit
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 16 September 2016, 12:01:18
Oh Lordy, we don't have another road user more interested in mpg than progress?

They're getting more problematic than caravanners  :P

What's the point in driving like a loon? I see it all time, someone weaving out all of the lanes, hard away from the line. Heavy braking, then hard away again. I catch them up at the slip roads, or lights, so whats the point?

Why do I need to rush to get to work, it's only work!  ;D
So when is the tow bar being fitted then?


Besides, so much for my "Diesel Killer" commute  :P
Lets see in a year or so, when if fails to complete regeneration.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 16 September 2016, 12:02:28
Given I'm using the auto hold feature, I think the rears will be changed a lot.  :-\

Ok. I'll revise my estimate to "the electric parking brake will break first". ;)


Oh yes. They're shit
The VAG ones especially according to one of my holiday buddies who runs a garage...
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 16 September 2016, 12:14:59
What's the point in driving like a loon?
And being serious for a minute, its not about being a nutter.

Those more interested in mpg/do-gooding than anything else cause everything to else to come to a crawl, selfishly impacting everyone else's progress.  Probably more-so than those constantly lane swerving, or the retards on the M40 who won't leave the outside lane until the cheverons start at the slip road they need to get off at, causing all lanes to have to come to a standstill.


In fact, one of the reasons for my previous poor economy was all the do-gooding tosspots driving so slow, making my 24 mile commute take over an hour, and my average speed over several tankfuls to drop below 30mph. My mpg has improved with the new commute, simply because being mostly dual carriageway/motorway, I can (eventually) get past these selfish, self-centred idiots (we all know the type - lane hoggers, those that take 10 miles in outside lane to overtake middle lane car, as they won't do more than 56mph for fear of not getting a gazillion mpg).


Line 'em up for the culling.


//TB goes off and breaths deeply
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: STEMO on 16 September 2016, 13:23:01
I hate sincerely dislike the idiots who sit at a junction in front of you on a 60mph road, wait till you're almost upon them, then pull out and proceed at 40-50.
Why can't they wait until the road is clear then, at least, if you come up behind them, you're not steaming from the ears and likely to attempt an unsafe overtake*
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: STEMO on 16 September 2016, 13:24:58
*Unsafe overtake.
In my astra, any overtake where I haven't got half a mile of clearly visible road.  ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 16 September 2016, 13:32:20
*Unsafe overtake.
In my astra, any overtake where I haven't got half a mile of clearly visible road.  ;D

Move to France, where overtaking is a simple matter of pulling out and going for it. Speed, space, oncoming traffic, weather conditions, junctions and all of the things we used to be taught to consider are irrelevant.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 16 September 2016, 16:21:47
I hate sincerely dislike the idiots who sit at a junction in front of you on a 60mph road, wait till you're almost upon them, then pull out and proceed at 40-50.
Why can't they wait until the road is clear then, at least, if you come up behind them, you're not steaming from the ears and likely to attempt an unsafe overtake*
There was a thing that I first noticed in Milton Keynes about 5 or 6 years ago, where nobody will pull out of a roundabout (and there are a fair few roundabouts there) until something was coming.  Its so common there now, you don't even notice.  You even slow down going around the roundabout if you can see traffic waiting to pull out, as you know they will....
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 September 2016, 16:51:13
Move to France, where overtaking is a simple matter of pulling out and going for it. Speed, space, oncoming traffic, weather conditions, junctions and all of the things we used to be taught to consider are irrelevant.

Yes, indeed. I overtook about a 5 or 6 cars and an HGV on one of those long straights you get on the French roads, in the Westfield. About half way past everything, I hit the rev limiter. On changing up, I realised that I was actually in 4th gear, not 3rd. :o Cue mental calculation :" Hmm. rev limiter in 4th is <mumble> MPH." :o Didn't want to risk a glance at the speedo to double check. ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 16 September 2016, 21:36:56
Move to France, where overtaking is a simple matter of pulling out and going for it. Speed, space, oncoming traffic, weather conditions, junctions and all of the things we used to be taught to consider are irrelevant.

Yes, indeed. I overtook about a 5 or 6 cars and an HGV on one of those long straights you get on the French roads, in the Westfield. About half way past everything, I hit the rev limiter. On changing up, I realised that I was actually in 4th gear, not 3rd. :o Cue mental calculation :" Hmm. rev limiter in 4th is <mumble> MPH." :o Didn't want to risk a glance at the speedo to double check. ;D


When I leave my aunt's house at 08:00 on a Sunday with a 50mile trip to the motorway and another 650 after that, I like to make progress ;D


So that's sit a couple of car lengths behind the 40mph obstruction, with the sport button pressed; pull out, and when the car is straight, floor it, pass the 3 caravans, and have it change back into fourth just as the rev limiter cuts in. Quite satisfying, and it's about the only time my car gets revved past 4000rpm.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Andy B on 16 September 2016, 22:24:14
Given I'm using the auto hold feature, I think the rears will be changed a lot.  :-\

Ok. I'll revise my estimate to "the electric parking brake will break first". ;)

The hill hold assist on my Touareg uses the main brakes, I dont have electric hancbrake

likewise  :y (times 3 ..... 2 Smarts & the Merc  ;))
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Nick W on 17 September 2016, 00:38:26
Given I'm using the auto hold feature, I think the rears will be changed a lot.  :-\

Ok. I'll revise my estimate to "the electric parking brake will break first". ;)


Oh yes. They're shit
The VAG ones especially according to one of my holiday buddies who runs a garage...


They're no more unreliable than others(Discoveries and Meganes are common), but there isn't a manual release which makes things interesting. And expensive
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 17 September 2016, 09:14:29
Tunnie, are you coming to Brakkers this weekend, if so, pop your new ride around so I can take the piss admire it :y

I know its not my next car (FWD, VAG, underpowered), but you can take me for a blast anyway, see if you can sway me...

I won't say what Mrs TB was ranting about all VW drivers after a Passat was driving like a pillock, as the word censor would go crazy.  I then told her you bought a VW ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: ted_one on 17 September 2016, 10:21:02
I agree with all that's been said on here, and it's  because of other peoples lack of awareness to other road users,it has made me a real bad tempered fatherless one when out and about,and in reality I treat all other drivers as 'the enemy' who are out to **** my day up! Gone is the day when people thank you for giving way to them or stopping at a pedestrian crossing,and in actual fact I'm fairly sure some pedestrians are unaware that they have actually crossed a busy main road, because they were totally involved in announcing to one and all on social media that they had a very satisfying dump before leaving home earlier!I had one of those situations recently when a guy walked straight off the kerb head down in the world of what?? then suddenly realised where he was and looked up at me and mouthed the word ''sorry!'' My thoughts were...yeah you would be really sorry when you're  spread all over the road by 2 tons of R8 you teewat!
Personally I don't think there's is any way of improving the appalling standard of driving in this country,and although like quite a few of us I'm and advanced driver, there's very little of those skills that is going to save me from being smacked from behind or t-boned by some knob who thinks red lights are for pussies....see them every day!and the real worrying thing is,that of my own reactions after being involved in a shunt that's clearly someone elses fault.... :-\ >:( :-\ >:(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 17 September 2016, 10:37:32
Nitro - its not like they can't hear you coming in the VXR.  Almost understandable if it was Guffers in his milk float that was nearly knocking down pedestrians ;D

Still, survival of the fittest, if somebody walks out in front of a car, its only going to improve the gene pool.  But we need to shoot the do-gooders first.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 September 2016, 11:49:03
Nitro - its not like they can't hear you coming in the VXR.  Almost understandable if it was Guffers in his milk float that was nearly knocking down pedestrians ;D

Still, survival of the fittest, if somebody walks out in front of a car, its only going to improve the gene pool.  But we need to shoot the do-gooders first.

I imagine the demonic rumble can be heard on Mars. ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: biggriffin on 17 September 2016, 12:31:26
I agree with all that's been said on here, and it's  because of other peoples lack of awareness to other road users,it has made me a real bad tempered fatherless one when out and about,and in reality I treat all other drivers as 'the enemy' who are out to **** my day up! Gone is the day when people thank you for giving way to them or stopping at a pedestrian crossing,and in actual fact I'm fairly sure some pedestrians are unaware that they have actually crossed a busy main road, because they were totally involved in announcing to one and all on social media that they had a very satisfying dump before leaving home earlier!I had one of those situations recently when a guy walked straight off the kerb head down in the world of what?? then suddenly realised where he was and looked up at me and mouthed the word ''sorry!'' My thoughts were...yeah you would be really sorry when you're  spread all over the road by 2 tons of R8 you teewat!
Personally I don't think there's is any way of improving the appalling standard of driving in this country,and although like quite a few of us I'm and advanced driver, there's very little of those skills that is going to save me from being smacked from behind or t-boned by some knob who thinks red lights are for pussies....see them every day!and the real worrying thing is,that of my own reactions after being involved in a shunt that's clearly someone elses fault.... :-\ >:( :-\ >:(

Lad at work is up before the beak, due to some silly bint stepping off the pavement, then stopping halfway, he clipped her, she was in her world, lads up for due care, lucky he was in his car, or would be a different outcome.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: ted_one on 17 September 2016, 13:07:01
All cars now have dash cams,only a matter of time before I collect a new bonnet mascot,hopefully blood spatter is easy to clean of matt vinyl wrap ::) :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: ted_one on 17 September 2016, 13:20:19
Thinking...there is an upside to all of this,that being if you walk/drive around with your head firmly jammed into your anal cavity whilst texting etc,then this should automatically qualify that person to be a fully paid up organ donor....brain NO! but all other parts O.K for recycling...job's a good 'un :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 17 September 2016, 14:47:11
Makes perfect sense.  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 18 September 2016, 10:26:25
Tunnie, are you coming to Brakkers this weekend, if so, pop your new ride around so I can take the piss admire it :y

I know its not my next car (FWD, VAG, underpowered), but you can take me for a blast anyway, see if you can sway me...

I won't say what Mrs TB was ranting about all VW drivers after a Passat was driving like a pillock, as the word censor would go crazy.  I then told her you bought a VW ;D

Sorry, had a change of plan. Had to come home late last night, so did not have a chance to come back via Brackley.

You would not like it anyway, but as for under powered I've found its got plenty of go for me. Mid-range it pulls really well 40-80mph, I do wonder if he has had a remap as it feels lot faster than 140bhp

Fully loaded with mates on board and full boot, did not notice it. Liking diesel so far, approaching 500 miles with still 3rd of the tank left.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Lazydocker on 18 September 2016, 12:39:25
Diesel suits your driving style Tunnie. And the reason if feels more powerful is because the figure you are actually comparing is torque ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: biggriffin on 18 September 2016, 13:58:11
Blimey, 30 pages, might overtake young bears 0-60 thread :o
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 September 2016, 15:05:19
Blimey, 30 pages, might overtake young bears 0-60 thread :o
Be quicker getting there too :D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Lazydocker on 18 September 2016, 20:56:23
Blimey, 30 pages, might overtake young bears 0-60 thread :o
Be quicker getting there too :D

 :D :D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Varche on 18 September 2016, 22:00:13
I had a 2 litre diesel passat hire car for three weeks. Superb fuel economy and plenty of go. Auto too. Overall really liked car but have to wonder at reliability when ten years old. Plus a lot of gadgets to go wrong later in life like auto engine stop/start.  How much is a dpf and at what age?
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 19 September 2016, 21:21:59
Diesel suits your driving style Tunnie. And the reason if feels more powerful is because the figure you are actually comparing is torque ;)

Not to mention that the Passat is probably making closer to its "as new" bhp output than a Mig with more than a decade and 100k miles under its wheels.
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Lazydocker on 19 September 2016, 22:54:50
Diesel suits your driving style Tunnie. And the reason if feels more powerful is because the figure you are actually comparing is torque ;)

Not to mention that the Passat is probably making closer to its "as new" bhp output than a Mig with more than a decade and 100k miles under its wheels.

The way he drives he doesn't go anywhere near peak bhp figures ;)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: frostbite on 20 September 2016, 07:12:25
What about a 4.0 pheaton they depreciate well and bigger than a passat too, get it lpg'd and itll last longer
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: tunnie on 20 September 2016, 08:44:09
Diesel suits your driving style Tunnie. And the reason if feels more powerful is because the figure you are actually comparing is torque ;)

Not to mention that the Passat is probably making closer to its "as new" bhp output than a Mig with more than a decade and 100k miles under its wheels.

191k  :D

But yes, I think diesel really does suit my driving style.  :)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: henryd on 11 May 2017, 20:14:17
Nice car Tunnie - 150 or 190 engine? (You probably said, I probably missed it)

I'm averaging ~50mpg in mine so you should better that with the manual box by at leat 5mpg, maybe 10 if it's the lower HP version.

Heated front screen is a nice addition (and as you've found it's far from just Ford - heck, I can buy one for the kit car! Ford appear to have licensed the technology to just about anyone who'll pay.. oddly enough), loved it on the truck and will miss it on the Skoda.

Up until quite recently it was only Ford, Jag ,L/rover,they used to be quite portective of it too :y

You can have one for literally anything now - even an Omega if you really want (would be a custom order, though) - http://www.heatedwindscreen.com/

Kevin could even have one in the Westfield .. although if there's ice on the screen it's probably best he not go out in it ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 12 May 2017, 09:41:59
Yeah - actually I have upgrade my order with BrassCraft to a heated screen for the Cobra  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: TheBoy on 12 May 2017, 12:53:38
Nice car Tunnie - 150 or 190 engine? (You probably said, I probably missed it)

I'm averaging ~50mpg in mine so you should better that with the manual box by at leat 5mpg, maybe 10 if it's the lower HP version.

Heated front screen is a nice addition (and as you've found it's far from just Ford - heck, I can buy one for the kit car! Ford appear to have licensed the technology to just about anyone who'll pay.. oddly enough), loved it on the truck and will miss it on the Skoda.

Up until quite recently it was only Ford, Jag ,L/rover,they used to be quite portective of it too :y

You can have one for literally anything now - even an Omega if you really want (would be a custom order, though) - http://www.heatedwindscreen.com/

Kevin could even have one in the Westfield .. although if there's ice on the screen it's probably best he not go out in it ;D
The new car has it. And I still don't like it. I was hoping I'd get used to it, but I'm not :(
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 12 May 2017, 13:18:28
Yeah - actually I have upgrade my order with BrassCraft to a heated screen for the Cobra  :y

Given that mine steams up at the first sign of humidity, sounds like a good choice  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 May 2017, 14:23:25
Yeah - actually I have upgrade my order with BrassCraft to a heated screen for the Cobra  :y

Given that mine steams up at the first sign of humidity, sounds like a good choice  :y
You could always fix the aircon ::)
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 12 May 2017, 15:12:32
I was referring to my cobra. Which has no aricon, and a poxy electric heater to (fail to) demist the screen ;)

Omega demists itself just fine  :y
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: aaronjb on 12 May 2017, 15:27:12
Yeah - actually I have upgrade my order with BrassCraft to a heated screen for the Cobra  :y

Given that mine steams up at the first sign of humidity, sounds like a good choice  :y

Not cheap though - adds ~£200 to the cost of the screen.. and Chris isn't quite sure about them yet as he hasn't done many (or any, possibly!). Still, should find out in ~3 weeks or so whether it worked as that's about when my screen should be ready (and wind wings, visors, fuel filler, etc etc).

Might not find out how well it demists for a while though as there's still no drivetrain in the car! ;D
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 May 2017, 16:40:15
Yeah - actually I have upgrade my order with BrassCraft to a heated screen for the Cobra  :y

Given that mine steams up at the first sign of humidity, sounds like a good choice  :y

Not cheap though - adds ~£200 to the cost of the screen.. and Chris isn't quite sure about them yet as he hasn't done many (or any, possibly!). Still, should find out in ~3 weeks or so whether it worked as that's about when my screen should be ready (and wind wings, visors, fuel filler, etc etc).

Might not find out how well it demists for a while though as there's still no drivetrain in the car! ;D

Still, it'd cost £200+ to fit a proper heater, which is the next best option given that the electric blowers aren't much cop except for getting past the IVA. Less weight, too. :y

Then again, I've been glad of my proper heater on many occasions, and, even when I can put up with the cold, it stops the rev limiter complaining (about the cold, not the driving).
Title: Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
Post by: Shackeng on 13 May 2017, 18:46:21
Yeah - actually I have upgrade my order with BrassCraft to a heated screen for the Cobra  :y

Given that mine steams up at the first sign of humidity, sounds like a good choice  :y

Not cheap though - adds ~£200 to the cost of the screen.. and Chris isn't quite sure about them yet as he hasn't done many (or any, possibly!). Still, should find out in ~3 weeks or so whether it worked as that's about when my screen should be ready (and wind wings, visors, fuel filler, etc etc).

Might not find out how well it demists for a while though as there's still no drivetrain in the car! ;D

Still, it'd cost £200+ to fit a proper heater, which is the next best option given that the electric blowers aren't much cop except for getting past the IVA. Less weight, too. :y

Then again, I've been glad of my proper heater on many occasions, and, even when I can put up with the cold, it stops the rev limiter complaining (about the cold, not the driving).
;D ;D ;D