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[Doctor Gollum]

You really should broaden your sources.

WaPo is about as reliable as Facebook... 

How many of these so called lies are from verified sources  and how many were started by the Clintons or Obama? Everything that the Democrats accused him of without proof is actually being done by themselves. How far did his impeachment get? 

[Doctor Gollum]

I would suggest, in no particular order:

Ben Shapiro
Sydney Watson
TimCast
The Conservative Twins
Salty Cracker
LIberal Hivemind
Mark Dice
Dr Steve Turley (in small doses)
Kayleigh Macenay
Rebel News
Mayhir Tousi
Tucker Carlson

[Varche]

You cannot defend the indefensible. The man is a serial lier. Just because other politicians also lie doesn’t make it right.  Hey Ho.


Donald Trump

Once again we’re absolutely spoiled for choice over which Trump gem makes into our top five this week, but this one makes it for its sheer audacity and reality-denying chutzpah.

Earlier this week the president denied downplaying the threat of the coronavirus earlier this year – despite the existence of an audio recording of him stating he did just that.

The president participated in a televised town hall meeting on Tuesday with uncommitted voters, hosted by ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos, in a warm up two weeks before he faces Democratic nominee Joe Biden in the first presidential debate.

Taped at the National Constitution Centre in Philadelphia, it featured Trump taking questions from an audience of just 21 voters to comply with state and local coronavirus regulations.

It marked Trump’s first time facing direct questions from voters in months, and an opportunity for the Republican to test-drive his message before the critical debates.

In an exchange with one voter, Trump sought to counter his admission to journalist Bob Woodward that he was deliberately “playing it down” when discussing the threat of Covid-19 to Americans earlier this year.

Despite audio of his comments having been released, Trump told the voter: “Yeah, well, I didn’t downplay it. I actually, in many ways, I up-played it, in terms of action.

My action was very strong.

[Doctor Gollum]

I'm not going to validate that with a response.

[Doctor Gollum]

I would suggest, in no particular order:

Ben Shapiro
Sydney Watson
TimCast/TimPool
The Conservative Twins
Salty Cracker
LIberal Hivemind
Mark Dice
Dr Steve Turley (in small doses)
Kayleigh Macenay
Rebel News
Mahyar Tousi
Tucker Carlson
Don't Tell Mom

Edited for spelling correction.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The difference between Trump and other politicians is that they are professional, career liars. He is just an amateur.
I dont have a lot good to say about him, but Im convinced the alternative would be worse.
Much like the Tories and Labour in the UK.
Biden interfered on our domestic politics a week or so ago in a disgraceful and threatening way, and for that reason I hope he loses.

[Rangie]

The difference between Trump and other politicians is that they are professional, career liars. He is just an amateur.
I dont have a lot good to say about him, but Im convinced the alternative would be worse.
Much like the Tories and Labour in the UK.
Biden interfered on our domestic politics a week or so ago in a disgraceful and threatening way, and for that reason I hope he loses.

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Got to agree with that, he in no way can be deemed a Politician he is as described yesterday a " complete buffon" who seems to think he can simply bluff his way through any situation, if people are foolish enough to believe this total charade that has just taken place more fool them.

[Doctor Gollum]

If he loses, then we're all completely screwed.

If you want an idea of just how screwed, look at California or New York or New Zealand or Australia.

The left are so determined to keep him out of power that they will literally screw the decent working class majority to do it. Nancy Pelosi, for example, has repeatedly refused to agree to a bipartisan bill to release a second wave of individual and business relief to support struggling business... Trump actually offered $5 Billion more than she was asking for... Her response? To shut down the Senate until after the election so that he can't look good. She has also tried to include  a whole raft of laws within the relief bill designed to erode civil liberties, the extent of which make the Patriot Act look like a really good idea.

It might seem like an exaggeration to say it, but Trump is the last line of defence against Leftist insanity.

I just hope that he can get Amy Conan Barrett appointed before the election, because without her, the election will probably fall to the State courts, and there's already precedent for Democrat Govenors to overrule State Law (Michigan to name but one, where Govenor Whitmer lost a ruling to the court, and rather than appealing through the normal process has publicly stated that she intends instead to use any other means to delay and stiffle the ruling*)... if the election is nullified, then ultimately each state court gets one vote which could lead to a Democrat majority regardless of the Electoral College votes. And once that happens, they will do everything to ensure that the Republicans can never hold a majority ever again. If Trump wins, they will cry foul, but if he loses, there will be a second Civil War in the aftermath and could ultimately mean the end of the Union.

And if you thought the whole thing wasn't screwed up enough, the US is pretty much the ONLY democratic system in the world where voter identity is not verified.

Not that you'll hear about any of that in the Guardian 

[Varche]

You have hit the problem on the head there. Same issue as in the UK.

Dear voter do you want the Loony  left - vote here. Do you want the Radical right - vote here.

There is a certain irony in the UK that Corbyns manifesto of spending vast amounts of money was derided and yet now Johnson has spent maybe five times as much and no one has batted an eyelid.

I am always amazed that middle ground parties don’t do better. After all most folk (oofers excepted of course) arent raving right or left wing but folk who just want an easy life.

[Doctor Gollum]

That's the thing, it's not the radical right. The left is so far gone as to almost be Maoist, that anything central seems extremist.

Even the likes of Facebook have such a left wing bias... remember that you only see what they allow you... Non left content is deleted at ten times the rate of leftist content. Twitter the same where by uncorroberated and unverified nonsense is treated as gospel, yet anything conservative or against the establishment edict is marked as untrustworthy.

You can see just how desperate the far left is getting that the Corbynistas and Blairites are pushing anything to distract from the genuine issues. This is fast becoming a global problem and what happens in the US in four weeks is only the tip of the iceberg.

[Viral_Jim]

That was of course the success (in an electoral sense) of Blair. He was a centre right politician who made left wing noises.

I do wonder if social media has exacerbated the right/left divide. After all, it's hard to make a nuanced point in 280 characters or fewer.

[Viral_Jim]

That's the thing, it's not the radical right. The left is so far gone as to almost be Maoist, that anything central seems extremist.

But isn't that the exact bias you're accusing others of?

What actual Corbyn policies/manifesto pledges did you find so radically left wing?

[Doctor Gollum]

Most of the people in my list address this issue of social media bias.

It's also one of the reasons why Trump (and his team) tweet so much... whilst not being much of a political strategy, it is a proven marketing one.

And whilst you would think that it would be easy to get balanced sides of the arguments, you can't because almost all of the main stream media, including social platforms, are towing the safe, leftist line...

How else could Biden get away with suggesting that a political group that has been literally rioting across the country for over three plus months is a 'notion' 

It's been four years since Trump was elected President yet the Democrats are still incensed by the fact that he had the audicity to even suggest running last time let alone winning.

[Doctor Gollum]

That's the thing, it's not the radical right. The left is so far gone as to almost be Maoist, that anything central seems extremist.

But isn't that the exact bias you're accusing others of?

What actual Corbyn policies/manifesto pledges did you find so radically left wing?

Can I say all of it? 

I honestly don't agree with most of the text, however 'reasonable' some of the words may seem.

[Doctor Gollum]

Well...

It looks like things are just starting to warm up somewhat...