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[TheBoy]

I did find out on my patronisation course, many aren't 20mph limits but 20mph zones.  The latter are not enforceable.

All points above are valid, but you can't debate this with the average middle class Oxford woman, who wants to be a do-gooder because she has nothing else to do and feels its a worthy cause.  Hence, round these parts, we have very few NSL roads, as they have all been dropped to 50, or even 40mph.

I'm just grateful I'm still allowed to use the roads, given how close I am to the land of the LTNs.

[grifter]

Surely they're going to encourage drivers to concentrate on their speedometer rather than the road.

Just a thought.

Sort of like me staring at my MPG reading in the 3.2!

[Auto Addict]

Surely they're going to encourage drivers to concentrate on their speedometer rather than the road.

Just a thought.

Sort of like me staring at my MPG reading in the 3.2!

 

[Viral_Jim]

Hence, round these parts, we have very few NSL roads, as they have all been dropped to 50, or even 40mph.

That may well be a different issue. I read an article explaining that NSL roads have different  (better) standards of maintenance applied to them. So, if the local authority has spaffed its budget on diversity officers and organic lentils for the staff canteen,  they can lower the speed limit under the guise of safety rather than actually pay to maintain it properly.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Bastards ! 

[STEMO]

The few main roads (were NSL, now 50) around here that are being resurfaced are done with one layer of bitumen topped with gravel straight of the wagon. No planing first. Then 20mph restriction until all of the spare gravel ends up in the gutter, quick white line and that's it. Reminds me of the way they used to do it when I was a lad, just a quick, cheap job.
As Jim says, reduce the speed limit and you can get away with this crap.




I remember playing football on newly laid streets, if you went over you got a palm full of gravel for nursing to remove with her tweezers 

[ronnyd]

Did anyone see the Morning Live programme on BBC1 this morning? Mostly PC bollacks, but there was a piece on using waste plastic mixed with normal bitumen to repair potholes. They are trialling this in Cumbria at the moment and they claim that the new mix lasts 6/7 times longer than the normal stuff.

[TheBoy]

Hence, round these parts, we have very few NSL roads, as they have all been dropped to 50, or even 40mph.

That may well be a different issue. I read an article explaining that NSL roads have different  (better) standards of maintenance applied to them. So, if the local authority has spaffed its budget on diversity officers and organic lentils for the staff canteen,  they can lower the speed limit under the guise of safety rather than actually pay to maintain it properly.

Nope, it is just being that near to Oxfordshire, and the complete, insane desire to stop all car usage...   ...then cry when all businesses move out....

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I can't think of one 20mph speed limit in Barnsley 

That will  change in Barnsley when the motor car becomes available to northern folk.