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[Doctor Gollum]

The Sports Tourer looks much cleaner than the hatch, which looks like a facelift Leaf in profile. 

[ronnyd]

Does that model Astra still have a 'proper' auto box and not the DSG/Powershift garbage?

[STEMO]

Does that model Astra still have a 'proper' auto box and not the DSG/Powershift garbage?

It certainly does, Ronny. The J has a 2.0 165bhp engine, with a traditional slush box, and the K has a 1.6 135bhp engine with a traditional slush box. The K is a lot lighter so the 'performance' is about the same. However, the J has a cambelt and the K a chain. There are a lot of people worried about the noise the chain makes on startup, but Vx put this down to an engine 'characteristic'. I've seen pictures of a couple of the Ks, used for taxiing, that have done over 100K miles. The plastic guide at the bottom of the chain has disintegrated and fallen into the sump.

[ronnyd]

Thanks Steve. 

[STEMO]

Those are the diesel models I'm talking about, of course. I don't know anything about the ones that use that expensive petrol stuff. 

[TheBoy]

Mrs AA has a Hatchback SRi the same colour.

Twins

Come on, piccy of them together

[Andy B]

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They're not quite the same. A shooting brake was used for carrying guns, and only has two doors - like an estate-based van

True .... but near enough.

Does the amount of doors actually make a difference?  Merc make a CLS Shooting Brake and that's just a slimmed down estate .... looks over practicality.
And a coupe should only really have 2 doors .. Coupe .... but Rover's P5 Coupe had 4 of them 

[Nick W]

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They're not quite the same. A shooting brake was used for carrying guns, and only has two doors - like an estate-based van

True .... but near enough.

Does the amount of doors actually make a difference?  Merc make a CLS Shooting Brake and that's just a slimmed down estate .... looks over practicality.
And a coupe should only really have 2 doors .. Coupe .... but Rover's P5 Coupe had 4 of them 

Coupe originally referred to the roofline being cut. The P5 had a lowered(chopped in American) roof, and so qualifies.


Many bodywork terms were far more specific than their current usage; roadster and  convertible weren't interchangeable. Lots of words have lost their precise meanings; the bloke who can't mend your washing machine isn't an 'engineer'


Mercedes  using shooting brake, BMW Touring or Audi Avant is just to avoid the common(and cheap sounding) 'estate', which is important when your business model is founded on pretentious marketing

[Auto Addict]

Mrs AA has a Hatchback SRi the same colour.

Twins

Come on, piccy of them together

I'm not going out in the rain taking piccies

[Auto Addict]

Mrs AA's Astra SRi Hatchback

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[Andy B]

Mrs AA's Astra SRi Hatchback

I like the 'floating roof line' of the hatch 

[TheBoy]

Mrs AA's Astra SRi Hatchback

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No, no, no.  We need to see the twins together.  Get out there!

[Nick W]

Mrs AA's Astra SRi Hatchback

I like the 'floating roof line' of the hatch 

It's like designers of the mk1 Focus reunited: lots of conflicting lines and finishes just because they could. Which is a pity because the rest of the car looks OK.

[Doctor Gollum]

At least the Ford interns had the nouse to seam both the rear windows to the tail lights

Like I suggested previously, from the side the Astra K hatch looks like a Leaf in drag

[STEMO]

Mrs AA's Astra SRi Hatchback

I like the 'floating roof line' of the hatch 

It's like designers of the mk1 Focus reunited: lots of conflicting lines and finishes just because they could. Which is a pity because the rest of the car looks OK.

Remind me what it is you drive, Nick.