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Title: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: thebeast on 08 March 2023, 21:26:31
I think my car is ready for the it's end of life I can't find a oil cooler Y26SE can anybody help?
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: Raeturbo on 08 March 2023, 21:59:28
Just bypass it, as long as you don’t rag the Arsenal off it will be fine in my opinion.
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 08 March 2023, 22:08:58
I agree.  :y
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: MikeV6 on 09 March 2023, 12:49:26
Cant you bypass the cooler and run a external cooler ?
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: thebeast on 09 March 2023, 16:28:12
Called vauxhall today said can be ordered from then but 10 days to get cost £350 have been told to wait some knows someone to get a 2nd hand one
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: Viral_Jim on 09 March 2023, 18:36:51
Get yer tape measure out and get a quote to have one made up. Should cost way less than a vx one. And probably be of higher quality.
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: thebeast on 09 March 2023, 18:46:32
It's all good saying that but who will make one, these tend to last over 200k I am coming upto 261k my last omega did 300k only changed once in the last one in 10 years.
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 March 2023, 18:50:13
I would just try and source blanking plugs for where the cooler pipes come out of / go into the block.
Unlikely to need it in this country unless you  plan towing a big caravan all over the place in the middle of summer.
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: thebeast on 09 March 2023, 18:54:15
Yes but is anyone here driving a omega without a oil cooler please let me know prove me wrong some pictures, and I don't drive like missy daisy.
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: countrywoman on 09 March 2023, 18:59:29
Managed to find a stainless one from a Vectra, used on the bay.You cant just plug the take off as oil needs to go in and out of the gallery. Blanking plug will stop the flow
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: thebeast on 09 March 2023, 19:11:50
Need I say anymore, we could all cut corners, but in the end it's not worth it, the car was not designed like that, the actual plant that designed the engine cost £700 million and was in millions of cars from the v6 2.5,2.6, 3.2 was in saab, opel, BMW,cadalac, commodore, holden and others, but as I am still driving the car after 21 years, If only parts were easily available, as the carbon footprint of this car was created 21 years ago, now they just make crap, which I will have to choose from if i cant get this fixed , and then in a few years time, I will have to drive with a battery under my ass  ;D
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 March 2023, 19:26:02
I would just try and source blanking plugs for where the cooler pipes come out of / go into the block.
Unlikely to need it in this country unless you  plan towing a big caravan all over the place in the middle of summer.

Wouldn't you need to connect them together otherwise you'll starve the engine of oil?

Oil temperature is unlikely to be an issue in the UK. You can always get "tell tale" stickers to apply to the oil filter or sump which record the maximum temperature. Could replace it with a sandwich plate cooler or Laminova if required.
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 March 2023, 19:35:19
I would just try and source blanking plugs for where the cooler pipes come out of / go into the block.
Unlikely to need it in this country unless you  plan towing a big caravan all over the place in the middle of summer.

Wouldn't you need to connect them together otherwise you'll starve the engine of oil?

Oil temperature is unlikely to be an issue in the UK. You can always get "tell tale" stickers to apply to the oil filter or sump which record the maximum temperature. Could replace it with a sandwich plate cooler or Laminova if required.

I was thinking along those lines and as the oil is designed to flow that way, it could damaged the oil pump if you just blanked it?  :-\

How about connecting them together with 10mm copper pipe?  ???

You could route it under the oil cooler plate so at least it sits in the coolant, and if ambitious you could coil it for max cooling effect.  :-\
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 March 2023, 19:55:04
Dissimilar metal corrosion would be one reason ;)
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 March 2023, 20:07:42
Dissimilar metal corrosion would be one reason ;)

Might be an issue if under the cooler plate in coolant, but probably not an issue if just bridging the ports on the block.

Even then, with decent coolant, you might get away with it.
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 March 2023, 20:09:11
Failing that, just cut off the current cooler pipes somewhere convenient, swage the ends and bridge with rubber oil hose and a couple of jubilee clips.
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: Raeturbo on 09 March 2023, 20:41:45
This^ I’m sure the oil will never get too high without towing. Use good oil too. And get an oil temperature gauge if you’re that worried about it
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 March 2023, 21:27:01
Dissimilar metal corrosion would be one reason ;)

Copper doesn't corrode though?  ???

It oxidises in air, but I can't see an issue with copper pipe with oil on the inside and coolant on the outside?  :-\

It's not like it's got to last decades or anything like that either.  ;)
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 March 2023, 21:33:00
Dissimilar metal corrosion would be one reason ;)

Copper doesn't corrode though?  ???

It oxidises in air, but I can't see an issue with copper pipe with oil on the inside and coolant on the outside?  :-\

It's not like it's got to last decades or anything like that either.  ;)

It's a long way down the galvanic scale from aluminium, but then again, so is the stainless steel that the original cooler is made from.

It'll be the aluminium that corrodes, hence the importance of coolant changes.
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: Viral_Jim on 09 March 2023, 21:52:00
It's all good saying that but who will make one,

https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/image-gallery/oil-coolers/ (https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/image-gallery/oil-coolers/)

https://www.motorsportradiators.co.uk/oil-coolers (https://www.motorsportradiators.co.uk/oil-coolers)

https://gdmmotorsport.com/product/oil-coolers/ (https://gdmmotorsport.com/product/oil-coolers/)

No idea  ;D


A more cost effective alternative would be to find one of similar dimensions and modify the bracketry so that it fits in place of the original.

These folks will even sell you some shiny new hoses to connect it to the block.

https://www.goodridge.co.uk/collections/oil-coolers (https://www.goodridge.co.uk/collections/oil-coolers)
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: grifter on 15 March 2023, 10:13:52
This no use?

https://www.proparts.se/en/artiklar/oil-cooler-assembly-2.html

I don't see the dreaded "out of stock" tag so might be worth a shout, although it might be contact for enquiry only as I don't see a buy button.
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: cam.in.head on 15 March 2023, 11:02:29
theres always a few breakers about. either on here on on ebay the engines were well used in various cars including saabs
.a second hand  cooler should be fine if the cost of new is putting you off..after all every omega is fitted with one !   in fact every used car  out there is a collection of used parts bolted together !
or as mentioned a replacement could be fabricated (or bypassed)
nothing to make me think the car should be scrapped especially if its a good example otherwise.
Title: Re: End of life no parts anymore
Post by: grifter on 15 March 2023, 12:46:40
theres always a few breakers about. either on here on on ebay the engines were well used in various cars including saabs
.a second hand  cooler should be fine if the cost of new is putting you off..after all every omega is fitted with one !   in fact every used car  out there is a collection of used parts bolted together !
or as mentioned a replacement could be fabricated (or bypassed)
nothing to make me think the car should be scrapped especially if its a good example otherwise.

Weren't post facelifts stainless steel anyway, and I guess anything in any other vx/saab of that era the same?