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Title: Shaguar anyone
Post by: biggriffin on 14 March 2023, 21:32:55
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202302094108921

I'm only a few quid short,might do only fans to buy it ;D
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 March 2023, 22:54:16
It's even got a spare wheel!  :y
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Rangie on 15 March 2023, 09:26:09
Lovely car apart from the colour , personally I would never want a black vehicle when there is such a good variety of colours around nowadays.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: STEMO on 15 March 2023, 11:28:52
Same model as the Lord Opti had, I believe.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: YZ250 on 15 March 2023, 11:51:37
Same model as the Lord Opti had, I believe.

I believe Opti had an XF-R, not an XJ.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: YZ250 on 15 March 2023, 12:36:28
Lovely motor and plenty of toys. These cars are aimed at the Personal Chauffeur use and not Prestige Chauffeur companies that ferry anyone about, or indeed the average Joe off the street. So a wealthy person buys the car and it’s use is solely to chauffeur them about. The thirsty V8 is of no consequence as the owner can afford to run it.  :y
The Lexus 600h falls in to a similar bracket.  :y
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 March 2023, 13:00:13
Same model as the Lord Opti had, I believe.

I believe Opti had an XF-R, not an XJ.

Yep...both of mine were XFR. Same 5.0 510 BHP supercharged V8.

It's the fat controller who owns a black XJ....albeit the derv version. :)


Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 March 2023, 17:04:58
Same model as the Lord Opti had, I believe.

I believe Opti had an XF-R, not an XJ.

Yep...both of mine were XFR. Same 5.0 510 BHP supercharged V8.

It's the fat controller who owns a black XJ....albeit the derv version. :)

What was the fuel consumption like M'lud?  ???   ;D

Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 March 2023, 18:34:17
Same model as the Lord Opti had, I believe.

I believe Opti had an XF-R, not an XJ.

Yep...both of mine were XFR. Same 5.0 510 BHP supercharged V8.

It's the fat controller who owns a black XJ....albeit the derv version. :)

What was the fuel consumption like M'lud?  ???   ;D

A 'dieselesque' low twenties. ::)

High twenties, possibly thirty MPG on a long run because the car had long gears, and was only turning over at 1400 RPM at 70 MPH in 8th gear.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: dave the builder on 15 March 2023, 19:06:59
Same model as the Lord Opti had, I believe.

I believe Opti had an XF-R, not an XJ.

Yep...both of mine were XFR. Same 5.0 510 BHP supercharged V8.

It's the fat controller who owns a black XJ....albeit the derv version. :)

What was the fuel consumption like M'lud?  ???   ;D
If you have to ask.......
 :D
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 March 2023, 19:09:22
Same model as the Lord Opti had, I believe.

I believe Opti had an XF-R, not an XJ.

Yep...both of mine were XFR. Same 5.0 510 BHP supercharged V8.

It's the fat controller who owns a black XJ....albeit the derv version. :)

What was the fuel consumption like M'lud?  ???   ;D

A 'dieselesque' low twenties. ::)

High twenties, possibly thirty MPG on a long run because the car had long gears, and was only turning over at 1400 RPM at 70 MPH in 8th gear.

Actually not bad for a big petrol like that.  :y


Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 March 2023, 19:09:56
Same model as the Lord Opti had, I believe.

I believe Opti had an XF-R, not an XJ.

Yep...both of mine were XFR. Same 5.0 510 BHP supercharged V8.

It's the fat controller who owns a black XJ....albeit the derv version. :)

What was the fuel consumption like M'lud?  ???   ;D
If you have to ask.......
 :D

Well quite...  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 March 2023, 19:28:10
Think about 'performance cars' from years gone by?

A Jensen Interceptor would probably struggle to make a gallon last 10 miles.

Old  Jag XJ6 of XJ12 from the seventies probably 12-13 MPG.

And these old boats only had half the power of my XFR(s).

Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 March 2023, 19:30:03
MY old Triumph 2500S from 1976 could barely break the 20 MPG barrier even when driven gently in overdrive top. :)
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Rangie on 15 March 2023, 19:58:54
I was lucky to get 20mpg out of my 1974 Escort Mexico, mind petrol was around 40 pence a gallon back then.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Raeturbo on 15 March 2023, 21:42:50
MY old Triumph 2500S from 1976 could barely break the 20 MPG barrier even when driven gently in overdrive top. :)


       My Triumph 2.5 PI automatic was straining to get double figures the way I drove it🤣
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: TheBoy on 16 March 2023, 11:03:06
TB checks driveway.  No, the BBP is still there.  Not that the BBP is a petrol. Or LWB.  But underneath the impressive layer of dirt, I think its the same colour ;D
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 16 March 2023, 12:03:46
You must have had that 6 or 7 years now ?
How time flies.  :o
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 March 2023, 13:21:57
I do think the design of the XJ has aged well. It's a handsome beast.

I was tempted by one of the last XJ 575 to be built at one point.

I was told I should grow up and buy a nice dependable diesel 1.2..... :-\ :)

Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: TheBoy on 16 March 2023, 13:59:08
You must have had that 6 or 7 years now ?
How time flies.  :o
Probably....
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: TheBoy on 16 March 2023, 13:59:51
I do think the design of the XJ has aged well. It's a handsome beast.
Its passable from the front of side, but by god, its got a pig ugly arse.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 March 2023, 14:16:01
I do think the design of the XJ has aged well. It's a handsome beast.
Its passable from the front of side, but by god, its got a pig ugly arse.

A pig ugly arse can appears quite attractive after ten pints of Wifebeater 7% ABV. :)
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 16 March 2023, 18:47:22
The old original XJ had presence, class  and style, even if the non sporty versions were a tad pipe & slippers. Still on my bucket list of cars to own.
The more recent versions are just a Mondeo on steroids to me. May be very good cars, but I have zero interest in them .
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 March 2023, 18:54:48
The old original XJ had presence, class  and style, even if the non sporty versions were a tad pipe & slippers. Still on my bucket list of cars to own.
The more recent versions are just a Mondeo on steroids to me. May be very good cars, but I have zero interest in them .

You'll upset Tigger. :D
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Rangie on 16 March 2023, 19:24:57
The old original XJ had presence, class  and style, even if the non sporty versions were a tad pipe & slippers. Still on my bucket list of cars to own.
The more recent versions are just a Mondeo on steroids to me. May be very good cars, but I have zero interest in them .
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Got to agree with you there , my favourite though has to be a 3.4 MK2 followed by the Mk10 my first boss had one in Golden Sand ( metallic bronze) always thought that the interior was fabulous, of course can't miss out the E Type still the most beautiful car ever produced in my opinion.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Raeturbo on 16 March 2023, 20:31:03
Yes I had 2.4 and 3.4 when I was 18. I have an X350 4.2 XJL V8 now.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 16 March 2023, 22:33:31
Yes I had 2.4 and 3.4 when I was 18. I have an X350 4.2 XJL V8 now.

Lovely things.  8)
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: henryd on 16 March 2023, 22:34:56
I do think the design of the XJ has aged well. It's a handsome beast.
Its passable from the front of side, but by god, its got a pig ugly arse.

Very true,can't understand that as the XF arse is quite smart,recently drove a lwb jag xj and it's a lovely thing on the road even though it's huge
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 March 2023, 22:35:54
The old original XJ had presence, class  and style, even if the non sporty versions were a tad pipe & slippers. Still on my bucket list of cars to own.
The more recent versions are just a Mondeo on steroids to me. May be very good cars, but I have zero interest in them .

You'll upset Tigger. :D

I'm sure my Monsit would be flattered at being compared to a Jaaag!  :)
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Raeturbo on 16 March 2023, 23:47:11
Yes it sticks out everywhere got to be careful in the car parks🤣
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: countrywoman on 17 March 2023, 09:33:29
mk10/420G was a nice car, bloody big though. Needed the E type  4.2 triple carb engine to get it to move.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Rangie on 17 March 2023, 09:52:52
Yes I had 2.4 and 3.4 when I was 18. I have an X350 4.2 XJL V8 now.
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Very envious, my father had a lovely 2.4 with the rear wheel spat covers it was black with a gorgeous red leather interior UYY765 he paid £335 for it & they gave him £180 for his MK2 Lowline Zodiac, seems a lifetime ago now.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Raeturbo on 17 March 2023, 09:59:16
Yes I loved them but didn’t have the cash to maintain them properly the 3.4 had a leaking servo reservoir (under the wing). It was both feet on the pedal and head on the roof to get it to stop🤣🤣. I used a piece of drainpipe to repair part of the exhaust of the 2.4 after ripping it off on a level crossing my old man wasn’t happy as it was from our house🤣🤣 squeezed 100 mph out of the 2.4 and 112 mph out of the 3.4, those were the days 😁😁
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 17 March 2023, 10:02:09
I do think the design of the XJ has aged well. It's a handsome beast.
Its passable from the front of side, but by god, its got a pig ugly arse.

Very true,can't understand that as the XF arse is quite smart,recently drove a lwb jag xj and it's a lovely thing on the road even though it's huge

Try the 575, bloody handful! (RWD only)
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Rangie on 17 March 2023, 10:17:46
Yes I loved them but didn’t have the cash to maintain them properly the 3.4 had a leaking servo reservoir (under the wing). It was both feet on the pedal and head on the roof to get it to stop🤣🤣. I used a piece of drainpipe to repair part of the exhaust of the 2.4 after ripping it off on a level crossing my old man wasn’t happy as it was from our house🤣🤣 squeezed 100 mph out of the 2.4 and 112 mph out of the 3.4, those were the days 😁😁
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Funny enough the first time that I was driven at 100mph was in that 2.4 Jag on the way home from Brighton racecourse, remember very well my mum telling my dad to slow down 😄😄😄
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: TheBoy on 17 March 2023, 11:53:43
The old original XJ had presence, class  and style, even if the non sporty versions were a tad pipe & slippers. Still on my bucket list of cars to own.
The more recent versions are just a Mondeo on steroids to me. May be very good cars, but I have zero interest in them .
I think you are thinking of the X Type, which did heavily borrow from its (then) stablemate's parts bin
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: TheBoy on 17 March 2023, 11:58:21
I do think the design of the XJ has aged well. It's a handsome beast.
Its passable from the front of side, but by god, its got a pig ugly arse.

Very true,can't understand that as the XF arse is quite smart,recently drove a lwb jag xj and it's a lovely thing on the road even though it's huge

Try the 575, bloody handful! (RWD only)
Now my mileage has dropped to bugger all, I am tempted ;D, but they seemed to have suddenly got all expensive again.  Shame they didn't put that engine in an x260, as that might have become my dream car....
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 March 2023, 12:55:47
The old original XJ had presence, class  and style, even if the non sporty versions were a tad pipe & slippers. Still on my bucket list of cars to own.
The more recent versions are just a Mondeo on steroids to me. May be very good cars, but I have zero interest in them .
I think you are thinking of the X Type, which did heavily borrow from its (then) stablemate's parts bin

Utter shite......briefly owned an  X-Type Mondeo 3.0V6 SE auto.

Utter crap...it was 4 wheel drive though.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 17 March 2023, 18:09:16
The old original XJ had presence, class  and style, even if the non sporty versions were a tad pipe & slippers. Still on my bucket list of cars to own.
The more recent versions are just a Mondeo on steroids to me. May be very good cars, but I have zero interest in them .
I think you are thinking of the X Type, which did heavily borrow from its (then) stablemate's parts bin

Nope. Im thinking of the recent shaped Mondeo. Recent Jags appear to be  a bloated version of that in my eyes.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 March 2023, 18:42:20
The old original XJ had presence, class  and style, even if the non sporty versions were a tad pipe & slippers. Still on my bucket list of cars to own.
The more recent versions are just a Mondeo on steroids to me. May be very good cars, but I have zero interest in them .
I think you are thinking of the X Type, which did heavily borrow from its (then) stablemate's parts bin

Nope. Im thinking of the recent shaped Mondeo. Recent Jags appear to be  a bloated version of that in my eyes.

Having test driven both when I was looking to replace the Omega, I can assure you that that's where the similarity ends. ;D

Not sure how they managed to make the Mondeo driving experience so detached and numb.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 March 2023, 19:23:15
The old original XJ had presence, class  and style, even if the non sporty versions were a tad pipe & slippers. Still on my bucket list of cars to own.
The more recent versions are just a Mondeo on steroids to me. May be very good cars, but I have zero interest in them .
I think you are thinking of the X Type, which did heavily borrow from its (then) stablemate's parts bin

Nope. Im thinking of the recent shaped Mondeo. Recent Jags appear to be  a bloated version of that in my eyes.

Having test driven both when I was looking to replace the Omega, I can assure you that that's where the similarity ends. ;D

Not sure how they managed to make the Mondeo driving experience so detached and numb.
Volvo parts :D
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: TheBoy on 18 March 2023, 09:25:31
The old original XJ had presence, class  and style, even if the non sporty versions were a tad pipe & slippers. Still on my bucket list of cars to own.
The more recent versions are just a Mondeo on steroids to me. May be very good cars, but I have zero interest in them .
I think you are thinking of the X Type, which did heavily borrow from its (then) stablemate's parts bin

Nope. Im thinking of the recent shaped Mondeo. Recent Jags appear to be  a bloated version of that in my eyes.

Having test driven both when I was looking to replace the Omega, I can assure you that that's where the similarity ends. ;D

Not sure how they managed to make the Mondeo driving experience so detached and numb.
Volvo parts :D
Within PAG, Volvo didn't actually partake into technology sharing, in much the same way that Saab didn't really with GM, until the god awful Vectra-C was enforced on them.
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 March 2023, 10:36:30
The old original XJ had presence, class  and style, even if the non sporty versions were a tad pipe & slippers. Still on my bucket list of cars to own.
The more recent versions are just a Mondeo on steroids to me. May be very good cars, but I have zero interest in them .
I think you are thinking of the X Type, which did heavily borrow from its (then) stablemate's parts bin

Nope. Im thinking of the recent shaped Mondeo. Recent Jags appear to be  a bloated version of that in my eyes.

Having test driven both when I was looking to replace the Omega, I can assure you that that's where the similarity ends. ;D

Not sure how they managed to make the Mondeo driving experience so detached and numb.
Volvo parts :D
Within PAG, Volvo didn't actually partake into technology sharing, in much the same way that Saab didn't really with GM, until the god awful Vectra-C was enforced on them.

I'm glad this sack of shit is wholly unrelated to the bespoke and desirable Signum. :)
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: dave the builder on 18 March 2023, 12:05:24

....
....  until the god awful Vectra-C was enforced on them.

I'm glad this sack of shit is wholly unrelated to the bespoke and desirable Signum. :)
Signum was born of Vectra C  ;)
A Vectra C fed on sweets and junk food till it was very fat ,then beaten to within an inch of it's life with an ugly stick  :D

You'd think in this "woke" day and age ,such design abuse would be stamped out  :-\
but you only have to look at Vauxhall's current range  :o to see it hasn't  :P
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: ronnyd on 19 March 2023, 13:03:36
The old original XJ had presence, class  and style, even if the non sporty versions were a tad pipe & slippers. Still on my bucket list of cars to own.
The more recent versions are just a Mondeo on steroids to me. May be very good cars, but I have zero interest in them .
I think you are thinking of the X Type, which did heavily borrow from its (then) stablemate's parts bin

Nope. Im thinking of the recent shaped Mondeo. Recent Jags appear to be  a bloated version of that in my eyes.

Having test driven both when I was looking to replace the Omega, I can assure you that that's where the similarity ends. ;D

Not sure how they managed to make the Mondeo driving experience so detached and numb.
Volvo parts :D
Within PAG, Volvo didn't actually partake into technology sharing, in much the same way that Saab didn't really with GM, until the god awful Vectra-C was enforced on them.

I'm glad this sack of shit is wholly unrelated to the bespoke and desirable Signum. :)
Elitist twaddle.  :P ;D
Title: Re: Shaguar anyone
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 19 March 2023, 14:28:45

....
....  until the god awful Vectra-C was enforced on them.

I'm glad this sack of shit is wholly unrelated to the bespoke and desirable Signum. :)
Signum was born of Vectra C  ;)
A Vectra C fed on sweets and junk food till it was very fat ,then beaten to within an inch of it's life with an ugly stick
  :D

You'd think in this "woke" day and age ,such design abuse would be stamped out  :-\
but you only have to look at Vauxhall's current range  :o to see it hasn't  :P

Don't be so unkind. ;D ;D