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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #15 on: 11 March 2010, 17:16:21 »
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...unless it's a left handed thread of course...

No it's not.  ;)
How about giving your spanner a clout too, instead of just heaving on it.

I tried that, just kept slipping off, I was scared of rounding the housing off
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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #16 on: 11 March 2010, 17:17:53 »
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...unless it's a left handed thread of course...

No it's not.  ;)
How about giving your spanner a clout too, instead of just heaving on it.

I tried that, just kept slipping off, I was scared of rounding the housing off

36" stilsons?  ::)  ::)
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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #17 on: 11 March 2010, 17:21:42 »
I know some will not agree with the practice I adopt on these things, but I jack the car up well and get a 3/8ths socket wrench into the nut shaped end and clobber it with a rubber mallet.  Never (God that is tempting fate!!! ::) ::)) sheared the cannistor off yet, just unscrewed the lid successfully!

If you have nothing to lose, try it! :D :D ;)


Resort to http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1268174713 if it fails!! ::) ::)
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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #18 on: 11 March 2010, 17:42:42 »
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I know some will not agree with the practice I adopt on these things, but I jack the car up well and get a 3/8ths socket wrench into the nut shaped end and clobber it with a rubber mallet.  Never (God that is tempting fate!!! ::) ::)) sheared the cannistor off yet, just unscrewed the lid successfully!

If you have nothing to lose, try it! :D :D ;)


Resort to http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1268174713 if it fails!! ::) ::)

More likely to shatter the ratchet gears than anything else TBH. For undoing it the first time I would recommend getting a spanner over the nut and work it free... Once you've done it and tightened it correctly yourself you'll find you can use a ratchet in the end and undo it pretty easily :y :y
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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #19 on: 11 March 2010, 17:44:17 »
I think it needs a snug fitting spanner and a thwack with a mallet to break the seal ...  :)
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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #20 on: 11 March 2010, 17:50:08 »
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I think it needs a snug fitting spanner and a thwack with a mallet to break the seal ...  :)


The trouble is Entwood is that I have found the size of that nut is between about 20mm-21mm (or is it 21mm-22mm?)!  Anyway you need a half size between those for it to fit snuggly.  But the 3/8ths socket rachet fits perfectically inside that 'nut' ;) ;) 
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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #21 on: 11 March 2010, 18:08:37 »
I didn't try a spanner, come to think of it, it would fit better than the ratchet and socket that I was using. If that fails I'll try Lizzie's suggestion with a breaker bar.

Socket wasn't a great fit though, seemed like it was a 23 1/2 mm nut rather than 24
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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #22 on: 11 March 2010, 19:44:43 »
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So frustrating when people do this... The spin on canisters are always getting over tightened too >:( >:(
Done an oil and filter change today myself on the father in laws focus tdi,and that was also a barstool to get the filter off.Take it some idiot in the garage overtightened it last time.Ended up putting a screwdriver through it in the end with oil everywhere. >:(
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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #23 on: 11 March 2010, 19:48:02 »
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I didn't try a spanner, come to think of it, it would fit better than the ratchet and socket that I was using. If that fails I'll try Lizzie's suggestion with a breaker bar.

Socket wasn't a great fit though, seemed like it was a 23 1/2 mm nut rather than 24

1/2" Whitworth possibly? :-/
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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #24 on: 11 March 2010, 21:07:37 »
Is it possible to get an impact wrench on it. Not alot of space to do anything.
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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #25 on: 11 March 2010, 21:13:51 »
Another thought have you tried it with the oil hot
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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #26 on: 11 March 2010, 21:31:05 »
Both the cap and housing are aluminium so they will expand at the same rate so it probably won't make much difference :( that said I always do oil & filter changes hot and I didn't have any trouble getting the cap off mine last weekend (with an 18" breaker bar and and a 24mm socket).

I don't know if it would be possible to warm the housing with a kettle full of boiling water without warming the cap :-/

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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #27 on: 11 March 2010, 21:57:36 »
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Both the cap and housing are aluminium so they will expand at the same rate so it probably won't make much difference :( that said I always do oil & filter changes hot and I didn't have any trouble getting the cap off mine last weekend (with an 18" breaker bar and and a 24mm socket).

I don't know if it would be possible to warm the housing with a kettle full of boiling water without warming the cap :-/

What about trying a hexagon (as opposed to bi-hexagon) type socket?
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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #28 on: 11 March 2010, 22:04:39 »
I had a 23mm hex impact socket, which wouldn't go on, and a normal 24mm socket, which seemed slightly loose. Might see if I can get the 24mm hex one  :y
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Re: Victim of overtightening
« Reply #29 on: 11 March 2010, 22:40:46 »
With a name like cool rather than heating the body, with the oil hot try cooling the cap. Can you get CO2 aerosols anywhere or the footballers spray. an ice pack
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