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Boris says pubs, etc, can open.....
« on: 23 June 2020, 16:33:57 »

......and, almost immediately, the daily death toll jumps to 280. 171 plus historic deaths.
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Re: Boris says pubs, etc, can open.....
« Reply #1 on: 23 June 2020, 16:38:00 »

......and, almost immediately, the daily death toll jumps to 280. 171 plus historic deaths.
How many of those were from the excitement?
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Re: Boris says pubs, etc, can open.....
« Reply #2 on: 23 June 2020, 16:47:41 »

I believe I just heard that Germany is going back into lockdown, watch this space , Boris says that he "is relying on the commonsense of the British people " what a laugh that is..😄
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« Reply #3 on: 23 June 2020, 16:50:13 »

I believe I just heard that Germany is going back into lockdown, watch this space , Boris says that he "is relying on the commonsense of the British people " what a laugh that is..😄
Local lockdowns in Germany. A lot of these outbreaks, in Germany and the US, seem to be in meat processing plants. When you get around to Sunday lunch, make sure you cook the joint properly.  ;D
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« Reply #4 on: 23 June 2020, 17:06:41 »

Today's is the last daily update on tv. Everyone is getting bored with it now. Back to Brexit and the economy.
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Re: Boris says pubs, etc, can open.....
« Reply #5 on: 23 June 2020, 17:07:32 »

Went around my local Sainsbury last evening and you'd have thought that the 2 metre rule had been scrapped already. Families of four wandering around, kids playing with fresh produce etc. Queue up nice and orderly outside, when you get it it's a free for all. Shopper beware!
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« Reply #6 on: 23 June 2020, 17:27:14 »

Went around my local Sainsbury last evening and you'd have thought that the 2 metre rule had been scrapped already. Families of four wandering around, kids playing with fresh produce etc. Queue up nice and orderly outside, when you get it it's a free for all. Shopper beware!
I mentioned this about a month ago, always been that way in Asda.
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Re: Boris says pubs, etc, can open.....
« Reply #7 on: 23 June 2020, 18:25:55 »

Went around my local Sainsbury last evening and you'd have thought that the 2 metre rule had been scrapped already. Families of four wandering around, kids playing with fresh produce etc. Queue up nice and orderly outside, when you get it it's a free for all. Shopper beware!
I mentioned this about a month ago, always been that way in Asda.
Same problem in Morrisons and Tesco. I use the trolley if someone invades my space , there has been a few bashed ankles , not mine  ;D
"how did i do that if you where 2 meters away from me "

and  chances are half the dim whits will think 1 metre in supermarkets is enough from now on , I need to rig up some death spikes on me trolley  ;D
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« Reply #8 on: 23 June 2020, 18:40:23 »

Not sure if the little Social club Im secretary of will be able to open or not. Depnds on the details of the rules.
I wont be able to go until August 1st regardless, as swmbo is shielding until then. Plus the fact I can hardly walk at the moment anyway, despite heeding advice and munching painkillers.
A mispent youth isnt much fun when you get old.  ;D
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Re: Boris says pubs, etc, can open.....
« Reply #9 on: 23 June 2020, 18:41:31 »

The BBC has started spouting that the 2m is scrapped, and its now 1m.

Thats not what the PM said.

Silly bloody tart.
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« Reply #10 on: 23 June 2020, 19:07:28 »

yes, bad reporting ,such things need reporting clearly  >:(
The reduction to 1 Metre social distance doesn't come into effect until 4th July BUT ....
for the 1 metre rule to apply you need to take extra measures
so supermarkets ,shops ,walking past strangers ,etc should still be 2 metres
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« Reply #11 on: 23 June 2020, 19:13:52 »

Nothing to do with being a silly tart. If they get us all not taking enough care and the death toll shoots up, they can blame Boris and the other evil right wing Tories and hope to bring them down. If they could manage that, they might even still manage to stop Brexit.  ;)
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« Reply #12 on: 23 June 2020, 19:18:54 »

yes, bad reporting ,such things need reporting clearly  >:(
The reduction to 1 Metre social distance doesn't come into effect until 4th July BUT ....
for the 1 metre rule to apply you need to take extra measures
so supermarkets ,shops ,walking past strangers ,etc should still be 2 metres

About 6 pints?  :y
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« Reply #13 on: 23 June 2020, 19:26:17 »

yes, bad reporting ,such things need reporting clearly  >:(
The reduction to 1 Metre social distance doesn't come into effect until 4th July BUT ....
for the 1 metre rule to apply you need to take extra measures
so supermarkets ,shops ,walking past strangers ,etc should still be 2 metres

About 6 pints?  :y
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then there's a Que at the toilets
12 measures of shorts takes up less bladder space  :P
Boris hasn't mentioned what social distancing measures need to be in place for the 11.30 pm drunk punch up outside  :-\
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Re: Boris says pubs, etc, can open.....
« Reply #14 on: 23 June 2020, 20:28:36 »

The BBC has started spouting that the 2m is scrapped, and its now 1m.

Thats not what the PM said.

Silly bloody tart.
I see Laura made the most of her time off. Not.
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« Reply #15 on: 24 June 2020, 08:57:15 »

Coming soon near you the second wave 😃😀😄 it's just going to happen, far too soon & a lot of folk are just plain fu**ing stupid.
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« Reply #16 on: 24 June 2020, 09:56:32 »

Coming soon near you the second wave 😃😀😄 it's just going to happen, far too soon & a lot of folk are just plain fu**ing stupid.

Mind you these protests have been going on for two or three weeks now, and I haven't seen any reports of increased infection rates in Londinium?  ???
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« Reply #17 on: 24 June 2020, 10:12:12 »

Coming soon near you the second wave 😃😀😄 it's just going to happen, far too soon & a lot of folk are just plain fu**ing stupid.

Mind you these protests have been going on for two or three weeks now, and I haven't seen any reports of increased infection rates in Londinium?  ???
That's because the protestors all live in the Home Counties and Brighton.  ;)
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« Reply #18 on: 24 June 2020, 10:16:18 »

The lockdown reductions are actually picked by the national lottery computer. This gameshow method was picked because it was the only one that interested our cargo-cult PM(no thinking required, and lots of lovely risky gambling) and the third rate ministers could understand. Add the inane 'common sense' catchphrase every other sentence to spread any resulting blame.
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« Reply #19 on: 24 June 2020, 11:37:33 »

Have it on pretty good authority that the figures released to us mere peasants are " doctored" significantly , this is all about money now, advising the public to use commonsense is a get out clause the idiots will be in the pubs thinking that it's all safe now best of luck to them arms round each other when they're pissed.
This Pandemic is far from over yet, a lot more damage to come .
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« Reply #20 on: 24 June 2020, 11:49:47 »

Coming soon near you the second wave 😃😀😄 it's just going to happen, far too soon & a lot of folk are just plain fu**ing stupid.

Mind you these protests have been going on for two or three weeks now, and I haven't seen any reports of increased infection rates in Londinium?  ???
That's because the protestors all live in the Home Counties and Brighton.  ;)

OK Londinistan and the Sarf East in general then?  :-\
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« Reply #21 on: 24 June 2020, 12:07:37 »

It takes a few weeks for the stupid people who break lockdown rules to pass covid on etc and people be ill enough to be hospitalized or dead, then a while for the stats to come through ,if we ever get to see the real stats that is  ::)
the idiots think they are immune and won't bother getting a test even if they show symptoms . :(
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« Reply #22 on: 24 June 2020, 12:18:01 »

It takes a few weeks for the stupid people who break lockdown rules to pass covid on etc and people be ill enough to be hospitalized or dead, then a while for the stats to come through ,if we ever get to see the real stats that is  ::)
the idiots think they are immune and won't bother getting a test even if they show symptoms . :(
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Absolutely spot on , the ones with commonsense can see exactly what is happening you don't need to sit through a nonsensical daily briefing ( thankfully finished now) to be bombarded with facts & figures that simply don't add up.
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« Reply #23 on: 24 June 2020, 12:51:35 »

I've just popped out and there is a constant stream of traffic heading into town. All those people on furlough going to the beach!  ::)
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« Reply #24 on: 24 June 2020, 12:58:22 »

Been Sainsburys today and yesterday to get my daughters shopping, then mine, and absolutely no problems with all social distancing and as I use Smart Shop I do not interact with another human being at any stage. :D ;)

Went to Boots to get essentials for the first time since March, and once again full social distancing being applied and adhered to.  Same at Sainsbury's filling station. :y :y

But I will NOT be going anywhere else, but my daughters who are keeping safe, with no trips to main shopping centres, high streets, or even beaches as the idiots ARE out there and think it is all over - it bloody well is not!! >:( >:(

Germany is finding out what "relaxation" can bring, and as for the USA, let alone Brazil; but what can the two latter countries expect when they are "led" by fools as Presidents!! ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #25 on: 24 June 2020, 13:04:42 »

Speaking of pubs. The Black Boy in Retford has decided to take down it's sign following death threats, presumably from those with links to BLM.

The Council has told them they are happy to offer advice with a new name. :-\

Ridiculous. Why are Boris and the government rolling over and allowing this to happen?. BLM say 'jump' the government asks 'how high' :-X

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« Reply #26 on: 24 June 2020, 13:22:32 »

I still don't get why it's called "Black lives matter" and not "Black, asian and minority ethnic lives matter"  :-\
sounds a bit elitist to me ,if your not "black" you can't be included  :-\
plus there where and still are "white slaves"

not that my comments are anything to do with the original topic  :-[   ;D :D

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« Reply #27 on: 24 June 2020, 13:28:13 »

I still don't get why it's called "Black lives matter" and not "Black, asian and minority ethnic lives matter"  :-\
sounds a bit elitist to me ,if your not "black" you can't be included  :-\
plus there where and still are "white slaves"

not that my comments are anything to do with the original topic  :-[   ;D :D

Opti leading me astray again  :P

 Generally speaking he black community don't like the Asian community. They don't tend to mix. :)
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« Reply #28 on: 24 June 2020, 13:42:14 »

I still don't get why it's called "Black lives matter" and not "Black, asian and minority ethnic lives matter"  :-\
sounds a bit elitist to me ,if your not "black" you can't be included  :-\
plus there where and still are "white slaves"

not that my comments are anything to do with the original topic  :-[   ;D :D

Opti leading me astray again  :P

 Generally speaking he black community don't like the Asian community. They don't tend to mix. :)

There are sections of the black community that don't like each other as well, notably Africans and Caribbeans.

I have a friend who was born in Uganda, but came to the UK when he was small with his family, when Idi Amin was keeping people's heads in fridges.  ::)

Anyway his sister had a new boyfriend whose family hailed from Jamaica and her family weren't at all happy about it.  ::)  Not sure what his family thought of him going out with an 'African' girl mind.  :-\

I thought my friends Ugandan family were rather snobby about Wayne the 'Jamaican' with the gold tooth innit.  :)
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« Reply #29 on: 24 June 2020, 13:44:03 »

Yes that nice Mr Gandhi thought of Africans as savages apparently. I wonder if they are going to pull down statues of him ?
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« Reply #30 on: 24 June 2020, 14:14:39 »

Coming soon near you the second wave 😃😀😄 it's just going to happen, far too soon & a lot of folk are just plain fu**ing stupid.

The NHS and care homes have been quietly told we are looking at October for the 2nd wave  :(
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« Reply #31 on: 24 June 2020, 15:23:42 »

I still don't get why it's called "Black lives matter" and not "Black, asian and minority ethnic lives matter"  :-\
sounds a bit elitist to me ,if your not "black" you can't be included  :-\
plus there where and still are "white slaves"

not that my comments are anything to do with the original topic  :-[   ;D :D

Opti leading me astray again  :P

 Generally speaking he black community don't like the Asian community. They don't tend to mix. :)

There are sections of the black community that don't like each other as well, notably Africans and Caribbeans.

I have a friend who was born in Uganda, but came to the UK when he was small with his family, when Idi Amin was keeping people's heads in fridges.  ::)

Anyway his sister had a new boyfriend whose family hailed from Jamaica and her family weren't at all happy about it.  ::)  Not sure what his family thought of him going out with an 'African' girl mind.  :-\

I thought my friends Ugandan family were rather snobby about Wayne the 'Jamaican' with the gold tooth innit.  :)

Yep, too true.  A close friend of mine has a black Jamaican partner, and when he is on a rant about Black Africans for some reason or another the "N" word is expressed very freely!! ::) ::) ;)
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« Reply #32 on: 24 June 2020, 15:33:51 »

Surely not...

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« Reply #33 on: 24 June 2020, 16:10:05 »

I still don't get why it's called "Black lives matter" and not "Black, asian and minority ethnic lives matter"  :-\
sounds a bit elitist to me ,if your not "black" you can't be included  :-\
plus there where and still are "white slaves"

not that my comments are anything to do with the original topic  :-[   ;D :D

Opti leading me astray again  :P
Heard this morning, Jeremy Whine i think, that there is a move afoot to dispense with the BAME anacronym. WTF, i've only just got used to that one. ;D
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« Reply #34 on: 24 June 2020, 16:37:39 »

Another 154 lost their lives since yesterday. It's certainly not completely over.



I'll be doing the coronavirus daily update from now on, since Boris can't be arsed.  ;D
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« Reply #35 on: 24 June 2020, 16:48:00 »

Another 154 lost their lives since yesterday. It's certainly not completely over.



I'll be doing the coronavirus daily update from now on, since Boris can't be arsed.  ;D


Probably be a damn site more accurate coming from you Steve even at a "modest" 150 per day that's over 1000 per week or looking at it differently 2-3 plane crashes per week.
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« Reply #36 on: 24 June 2020, 16:55:57 »

Another 154 lost their lives since yesterday. It's certainly not completely over.



I'll be doing the coronavirus daily update from now on, since Boris can't be arsed.  ;D


Probably be a damn site more accurate coming from you Steve even at a "modest" 150 per day that's over 1000 per week or looking at it differently 2-3 plane crashes per week.
It's a lot when you put it like that  :(
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« Reply #37 on: 24 June 2020, 16:56:37 »

Another 154 lost their lives since yesterday. It's certainly not completely over.



I'll be doing the coronavirus daily update from now on, since Boris can't be arsed.  ;D


Probably be a damn site more accurate coming from you Steve even at a "modest" 150 per day that's over 1000 per week or looking at it differently 2-3 plane crashes per week.
More people in the UK have been tested than the number of people globally who have had it... which by the way, is a ridiculously small percentage of the global population :-X
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« Reply #38 on: 24 June 2020, 17:00:28 »

Another 154 lost their lives since yesterday. It's certainly not completely over.



I'll be doing the coronavirus daily update from now on, since Boris can't be arsed.  ;D


Probably be a damn site more accurate coming from you Steve even at a "modest" 150 per day that's over 1000 per week or looking at it differently 2-3 plane crashes per week.
More people in the UK have been tested than the number of people globally who have had it... which by the way, is a ridiculously small percentage of the global population :-X



I'm sure that will be very comforting to the 40,000 odd that have perished so far..😩
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« Reply #39 on: 24 June 2020, 17:11:59 »

It won't. Obviously.

Regardless, 42,000 sounds like a lot, but as a percentage of 67,000,000, it really isn't. And that's just the UK.

And just in case you think I am a heartless bastard, the tone of the following video pretty much sums up the mental anguish of everything that's been going on since February...

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« Reply #40 on: 24 June 2020, 17:19:36 »

It won't. Obviously.

Regardless, 42,000 sounds like a lot, but as a percentage of 67,000,000, it really isn't. And that's just the UK.

And just in case you think I am a heartless bastard, the tone of the following video pretty much sums up the mental anguish of everything that's been going on since February...

RIP Patrick Childress :-X
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Really don't need to be fed videos I'm very aware of what's been going on  , have seen three ex colleagues from the LAS lose their lives to this virus & also an elderly neighbour , in my book 42,000 is a lot regardless of our population.
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« Reply #41 on: 24 June 2020, 18:18:17 »

It won't. Obviously.

Regardless, 42,000 sounds like a lot, but as a percentage of 67,000,000, it really isn't. And that's just the UK.

And just in case you think I am a heartless bastard, the tone of the following video pretty much sums up the mental anguish of everything that's been going on since February...

RIP Patrick Childress :-X
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Really don't need to be fed videos I'm very aware of what's been going on  , have seen three ex colleagues from the LAS lose their lives to this virus & also an elderly neighbour , in my book 42,000 is a lot regardless of our population.

I understand what you mean, as every life is important.  However what DG was emphasising I believe is that, as usual, in 2018 541,589 deaths occurred in just England and Wales.  Every year we lose people, like I have lost my parents over the last 5 years, and two friends.

We are born to die etc, etc., so as painful as it may seem the loss from this virus 42,000 is low compared to how it could have been a LOT worse - and still could be if the idiots are let lose - like the 228,000 British lives lost to Spanish Flue in 1918 or the earlier Black Death 1348-51 that wiped out 50-60% of the English population alone.

So, 42,000 is terrible, but, once again, it must be said it could be a lot worse. :'( :'(
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« Reply #42 on: 24 June 2020, 21:38:32 »

The Police will have their work cut out on the evening of 4th July. I have seen posts on social media such as "Who's up for a few beers on 4th July?" with several replies of "Count me in ... i'm gonna get absolutely hammered!" etc.
It's going to be a riotous weekend!


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« Reply #43 on: 25 June 2020, 00:49:48 »

A long way to go yet before this is close to being over.Several states in America are seeing a rapid rise in infections worryingly[for me as my son lives there]is California where he tells me a third of all their confirmed cases have been reported in the last two weeks.
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« Reply #44 on: 25 June 2020, 08:23:35 »

A long way to go yet before this is close to being over.Several states in America are seeing a rapid rise in infections worryingly[for me as my son lives there]is California where he tells me a third of all their confirmed cases have been reported in the last two weeks.
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« Reply #45 on: 25 June 2020, 11:38:31 »

Well, talking of opening things, you shoul see the Traffic heading down the A2/M2 towards Whitstable, Ramsgate's, etc...  :o :o
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« Reply #46 on: 25 June 2020, 15:09:45 »

Another 154 lost their lives since yesterday. It's certainly not completely over.



I'll be doing the coronavirus daily update from now on, since Boris can't be arsed.  ;D
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« Reply #47 on: 25 June 2020, 15:17:18 »

Someone dies of hunger every 3 seconds... Currently 19,450 so far today.

And as of now, 143,000 more people have been born than have died so far today...

You have to remember the positive numbers too :y

For balance :D
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« Reply #48 on: 25 June 2020, 15:46:13 »

Someone dies of hunger every 3 seconds... Currently 19,450 so far today.

And as of now, 143,000 more people have been born than have died so far today...

You have to remember the positive numbers too :y

For balance :D
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« Reply #49 on: 25 June 2020, 15:52:28 »

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« Reply #50 on: 25 June 2020, 16:08:23 »

Another 154 lost their lives since yesterday. It's certainly not completely over.



I'll be doing the coronavirus daily update from now on, since Boris can't be arsed.  ;D
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« Reply #51 on: 25 June 2020, 16:29:23 »

80,000 abortions so far today.

Not that you'll hear it mentioned anywhere  :-X
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« Reply #52 on: 25 June 2020, 16:44:29 »

80,000 abortions so far today.

Not that you'll hear it mentioned anywhere  :-X

Where's that?  In China?
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« Reply #53 on: 25 June 2020, 16:48:06 »

80,000 abortions so far today.

Not that you'll hear it mentioned anywhere  :-X

Where's that?  In China?
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« Reply #54 on: 25 June 2020, 16:59:43 »

80,000 abortions so far today.

Not that you'll hear it mentioned anywhere  :-X

Where's that?  In China?
Globally.
Mostly foreigners.
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« Reply #55 on: 25 June 2020, 17:00:12 »

80,000 abortions so far today.

Not that you'll hear it mentioned anywhere  :-X

Where's that?  In China?
Globally.

Out of curiousity I had a quick look and there's about 220,000 a year in the UK, so about 600 a day....
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« Reply #56 on: 25 June 2020, 17:18:18 »

Malaria and waterbourne disease kill nearly 4,000 a day.

Suicide and RTAs give Batflu a run for its money... Just over 4,500 today.

Suffice to say, 115,000 people have died so far today, including 25,000 from communicable diseases which presumably includes the 5,000 batflu deaths.
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« Reply #57 on: 25 June 2020, 21:04:43 »

80,000 abortions so far today.

Not that you'll hear it mentioned anywhere  :-X

Where's that?  In China?
Globally.

Out of curiousity I had a quick look and there's about 220,000 a year in the UK, so about 600 a day....

I really cannot understand this, with all the different birth control options available these days.  ???
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« Reply #58 on: 25 June 2020, 21:40:38 »

80,000 abortions so far today.

Not that you'll hear it mentioned anywhere  :-X

Where's that?  In China?
Globally.

Out of curiousity I had a quick look and there's about 220,000 a year in the UK, so about 600 a day....

I really cannot understand this, with all the different birth control options available these days.  ???

Stupidity... ::)
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« Reply #59 on: 25 June 2020, 21:48:13 »

80,000 abortions so far today.

Not that you'll hear it mentioned anywhere  :-X

Where's that?  In China?
Globally.

Out of curiousity I had a quick look and there's about 220,000 a year in the UK, so about 600 a day....

I really cannot understand this, with all the different birth control options available these days.  ???

Unfortunately a great many "liberated" women simply consider abortion a simple form of birth control ... they don't have to worry until it happens , then the "it's my body" mantra kicks in and an abortion is arranged ....  "all life matters" ????  I guess not ...  :(
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« Reply #60 on: 25 June 2020, 22:04:21 »

This to me seems to completely ignore a basic biological fact. Being a pregnant women means you have another human body inside your body. Its not "your body", its the body of your unborn child.  :(
When Hilary Clinton advocated abortion up to the point of being carried out up to going into labour, if the mother requested it, I decided she was a creature devoid of humanity.

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