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Title: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 28 June 2013, 12:33:28
the Mv6 is in need of some TLC,  nothing earth shattering,  but i'm taking a long term view,  at 156k ,  it's not getting younger....   and perhaps it's time i let a DIY capable person take over it's care.....   and I could do with something newer, if only for the sake of those days whn i have to take millionaire clients to lunch  (yes, i have those days.....  )   

so once again, the question of what next rears it's worn and weary head.

i've taken a bit of a fancy to one or other of the following.

Jag X type. probably  2.5 V6 estate , specifically for the 4wd really....  just about big enough to carry the gear,  bit short on rear leg room,  but then i don't sit in the back. 
BMW 5 series touring....    big, can be toy laden,  and suitably posh, and still carry all the gear.
BMW X5  coz it's silly, and impressive.   


Mostly i like the Jag at present,  some of them are really quite pretty, and i narrowly missed one this morning.....   that i'd have bought on the off-chance of it being good.....    got another one i'm eyeing up.....   but ..... would like to hear the old lags here make comment on the mechanicals....   i bought the useless parkers guide download..... they had nothing bad to say about it....  which seems unlikely....


opinions?
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: tunnie on 28 June 2013, 12:58:31
Max, have a read of this, images shown are Jag X Type.

http://www.kelsey-forums.co.uk/cgi-bin/jwm/YaBB.pl?num=1313252614 (http://www.kelsey-forums.co.uk/cgi-bin/jwm/YaBB.pl?num=1313252614)
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 June 2013, 13:16:49
the Mv6 is in need of some TLC,  nothing earth shattering,  but i'm taking a long term view,  at 156k ,  it's not getting younger....   and perhaps it's time i let a DIY capable person take over it's care.....   and I could do with something newer, if only for the sake of those days whn i have to take millionaire clients to lunch  (yes, i have those days.....  )   

so once again, the question of what next rears it's worn and weary head.

i've taken a bit of a fancy to one or other of the following.

Jag X type. probably  2.5 V6 estate , specifically for the 4wd really....  just about big enough to carry the gear,  bit short on rear leg room,  but then i don't sit in the back. 
BMW 5 series touring....    big, can be toy laden,  and suitably posh, and still carry all the gear.
BMW X5  coz it's silly, and impressive.   


Mostly i like the Jag at present,  some of them are really quite pretty, and i narrowly missed one this morning.....   that i'd have bought on the off-chance of it being good.....    got another one i'm eyeing up.....   but ..... would like to hear the old lags here make comment on the mechanicals....   i bought the useless parkers guide download..... they had nothing bad to say about it....  which seems unlikely....


opinions?


We had one in the family, a 3.0SE auto, and it was crap.

It's no more than a Mondeo in a posh frock, and ours suffered every electrical problem going.

I say avoid like the plague.
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: omega3000 on 28 June 2013, 13:21:38
Quote
just failed it's MOT on rusted and holed outer sills, o/s and n/s. I googled x type rusty sills and was surprised at the results, pages of distrought x type owners with rotten sills

 :(
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: TheBoy on 28 June 2013, 13:32:07
Ford era Jags are awful for reliability, esp the electricals and the gearboxes. Best come a generation newer.
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: omega3000 on 28 June 2013, 13:40:12
Ford era Jags are awful for reliability, esp the electricals and the gearboxes. Best come a generation newer.

Im off to see how cheap they are  :-\
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 June 2013, 13:42:44
Ford era Jags are awful for reliability, esp the electricals and the gearboxes. Best come a generation newer.


.......and I neglected to say that the gearbox was a crock of shit, too. :-\
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: taitinson on 28 June 2013, 13:43:38
Ford era Jags are awful for reliability, esp the electricals and the gearboxes. Best come a generation newer.

Im off to see how cheap they are  :-\

Maybe another 99p Ebay bargain coming up EMD  ;)
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: omega3000 on 28 June 2013, 13:45:05
There is plenty to choose from , a famous auction site has 1300 for sale cheap as chips . Didnt realize they were 2.1 v6  :(

Ford era Jags are awful for reliability, esp the electricals and the gearboxes. Best come a generation newer.

Im off to see how cheap they are  :-\

Maybe another 99p Ebay bargain coming up EMD  ;)

Nah ive already checked  ;D
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: tunnie on 28 June 2013, 13:46:00
There is plenty to choose from , a famous auction site has 1300 for sale cheap as chips . Didnt realize they were 2.1 v6  :(

Also 2.5 and 3.0's which were AWD, rest including diesels were FWD  :y
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 June 2013, 13:46:13
Ford era Jags are awful for reliability, esp the electricals and the gearboxes. Best come a generation newer.

Im off to see how cheap they are  :-\

Maybe another 99p Ebay bargain coming up EMD  ;)


I'd want change from 99p.

The X-Type Mondeo is not a pukka Jag.
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: tunnie on 28 June 2013, 13:48:06
Ford era Jags are awful for reliability, esp the electricals and the gearboxes. Best come a generation newer.

Im off to see how cheap they are  :-\

Maybe another 99p Ebay bargain coming up EMD  ;)


I'd want change from 99p.

The X-Type Mondeo is not a pukka Jag.

Saw one of these other day, now thats a pukka Jag. XJ-Coupe

(http://www.jaguarxjc.co.uk/jagimages/xjc_3.jpg)
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: omega3000 on 28 June 2013, 13:50:01
Here is one near me and the write sounds decent and went straight through MOT  :-\ ??? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-JAGUAR-X-TYPE-V6-BLUE-/171064408688?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27d43bba70
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 June 2013, 13:50:18
Ford era Jags are awful for reliability, esp the electricals and the gearboxes. Best come a generation newer.

Im off to see how cheap they are  :-\


Gorgeous, Mr Tunnie. Not you the car. :y

Maybe another 99p Ebay bargain coming up EMD  ;)


I'd want change from 99p.

The X-Type Mondeo is not a pukka Jag.

Saw one of these other day, now thats a pukka Jag. XJ-Coupe

(http://www.jaguarxjc.co.uk/jagimages/xjc_3.jpg)



Ooohh yes please. About 1977 judging by the plate. :y
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: omega3000 on 28 June 2013, 14:00:22
You get a lot for your money , could see myself in this little hot rod  :D

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJ-3-2-Auto-Sport-MOT-to-May-2014-tax-to-August-2013-Special-Alloys-/321149189262?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4ac5fbbc8e
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 28 June 2013, 14:16:14
You get a lot for your money , could see myself in this little hot rod  :D

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJ-3-2-Auto-Sport-MOT-to-May-2014-tax-to-August-2013-Special-Alloys-/321149189262?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4ac5fbbc8e

Surprisingly by its size you'd think it's a roomy car inside, it ain't its bloody cramp  ;D lovely and smooth though  :y
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 June 2013, 14:24:28
You get a lot for your money , could see myself in this little hot rod  :D

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJ-3-2-Auto-Sport-MOT-to-May-2014-tax-to-August-2013-Special-Alloys-/321149189262?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4ac5fbbc8e

Surprisingly by its size you'd think it's a roomy car inside, it ain't its bloody cramp  ;D lovely and smooth though  :y


Yep. I've noticed that most Jags are pretty cramped inside.......having nothing like the space of the Omega.

Shouldn't be a problem if you happen to be a shortarse.
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: omega3000 on 28 June 2013, 16:10:16
You get a lot for your money , could see myself in this little hot rod  :D

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJ-3-2-Auto-Sport-MOT-to-May-2014-tax-to-August-2013-Special-Alloys-/321149189262?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4ac5fbbc8e

Surprisingly by its size you'd think it's a roomy car inside, it ain't its bloody cramp  ;D lovely and smooth though  :y


Yep. I've noticed that most Jags are pretty cramped inside.......having nothing like the space of the Omega.

Shouldn't be a problem if you happen to be a shortarse.

I thought that , all the same very comfy in the armchair  :y
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 June 2013, 16:37:09
You get a lot for your money , could see myself in this little hot rod  :D

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJ-3-2-Auto-Sport-MOT-to-May-2014-tax-to-August-2013-Special-Alloys-/321149189262?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4ac5fbbc8e

Surprisingly by its size you'd think it's a roomy car inside, it ain't its bloody cramp  ;D lovely and smooth though  :y


Yep. I've noticed that most Jags are pretty cramped inside.......having nothing like the space of the Omega.

Shouldn't be a problem if you happen to be a shortarse.

I thought that , all the same very comfy in the armchair  :y


They do have a certain 'olde world charm' that you don't get in a BMW, Merc or Audi. :y
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 28 June 2013, 18:13:30
ouch......      not come across any mention of this issue till now..... and it has me worried.....thanks for the heads up.... very informative....   

 been looking at 53/04 V6 estates for a couple of grand ...  it HAS to be an estate no matter what i get..... 

might still win the 51 elite estate  on bay of fleas on sunday,  so no sudden moves just yet.....    but i'm preparing the ground....   I need to replace or repair by the 12th of july....    when i start doing galactic miles again.... 


figured if i get something this weekend/early next week i have time to have it serviced and checked out (assuming it needs it) ....

there's a nice looking 2004 53 plate 2.5 V6SE Estate  up in St Helen's  , but you can be damn sure skippy if i go up there to check it out  ,  i'll be sticking my hand up inside those sills.   

can't afford much newer at the moment,   trying to balance the difference between  age and mileage....  was aiming for sub100k if i could get it and under £2.5k
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 June 2013, 18:22:39
Pains me to say it, but I'd go for the 5 series. Can't stand the Mondaguar, before you even consider mechanicals. I find it a bit like the Rover 75. Modern car with a sprinkling of "Hycinth Bucket" to make it look "posh" when it's actually extremely ordinary. ::)

X5... No. Surely not? ;)

Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 28 June 2013, 19:17:53
Pains me to say it, but I'd go for the 5 series. Can't stand the Mondaguar, before you even consider mechanicals. I find it a bit like the Rover 75. Modern car with a sprinkling of "Hycinth Bucket" to make it look "posh" when it's actually extremely ordinary. ::)

X5... No. Surely not? ;)

Aye same here, The E60 5 series is growing on me ..
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: henryd on 28 June 2013, 20:18:33
Pains me to say it, but I'd go for the 5 series. Can't stand the Mondaguar, before you even consider mechanicals. I find it a bit like the Rover 75. Modern car with a sprinkling of "Hycinth Bucket" to make it look "posh" when it's actually extremely ordinary. ::)

X5... No. Surely not? ;)

Aye same here, The E60 5 series is growing on me ..

E61 estate version looks better,can't abide the rear of the saloon
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: chrisgixer on 28 June 2013, 20:49:36
Pains me to say it, but I'd go for the 5 series. Can't stand the Mondaguar, before you even consider mechanicals. I find it a bit like the Rover 75. Modern car with a sprinkling of "Hycinth Bucket" to make it look "posh" when it's actually extremely ordinary. ::)

X5... No. Surely not? ;)



Damn damn damn, Mr Wood has said exactly what I was going to. Paper doily anyone? Some flowery wall paper?
Utterly awfull car, its a Mondeo for a poor wannabe posh person. Its clostrafobic, with slab vertical dash way too close to the driver, with very uncomfortable seats. I had one for a week and hated the thing.

x5? No, just no.

Given your options I'm utterly disgusted to say go for a Touring...

...but wheres Andy P and his Merc...? Whatever it is? Estate, 4 wheel drive.

Shame they can't sort their geometry out though. :-\

Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: joshwyatt on 28 June 2013, 21:12:31
Max, if you need a hand with anything, just let me know...be good to see you again;

Volvo V70 or the XC70 with the 2.4 D5 engine. 5 cylinders, diesel, 185bhp, or the T5 Version with either 250 or 260bhp. It is FWD, or you can be lucky and find an AWD V70, or go for the XC70.
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Del Boy on 28 June 2013, 21:23:27
5 Series, 530d, or a 530i  :y.
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 28 June 2013, 21:28:02
5 Series, 530d, or a 530i  :y.

Tough choice probably 530i or 535i I'd go for  :)
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 28 June 2013, 21:32:04
5 Series, 530d, or a 530i  :y.

Tough choice probably 530i or 535i I'd go for  :)

Then again apparently the 530D does 0-62 in 7.3 seconds and very good mpg  :o
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: tunnie on 28 June 2013, 21:37:40
5 Series, 530d, or a 530i  :y.

Tough choice probably 530i or 535i I'd go for  :)

Then again apparently the 530D does 0-62 in 7.3 seconds and very good mpg  :o

Audi V8 TDI's are very impressive too, great performance and great economy!
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: VXL V6 on 28 June 2013, 21:41:57
530D  :y
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 28 June 2013, 21:47:02
5 Series, 530d, or a 530i  :y.

Tough choice probably 530i or 535i I'd go for  :)

Then again apparently the 530D does 0-62 in 7.3 seconds and very good mpg  :o

Audi V8 TDI's are very impressive too, great performance and great economy!

Like the look of the Audi A8's nice finish inside and out A6 not bad either  :y
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: tunnie on 28 June 2013, 21:53:00
5 Series, 530d, or a 530i  :y.

Tough choice probably 530i or 535i I'd go for  :)

Then again apparently the 530D does 0-62 in 7.3 seconds and very good mpg  :o

Audi V8 TDI's are very impressive too, great performance and great economy!

Like the look of the Audi A8's nice finish inside and out A6 not bad either  :y

A8's make Omega feel like a 1990's Skoda in terms of build and feel, whether that equals reliability I can't say. Lack of decent forums for DIY work puts me off, as I love the driving position and layout of the dash and arm rest area.
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Del Boy on 28 June 2013, 21:53:34
5 Series, 530d, or a 530i  :y.

Tough choice probably 530i or 535i I'd go for  :)

Then again apparently the 530D does 0-62 in 7.3 seconds and very good mpg  :o

New ones (F11) are a fair bit quicker and the E61 is no slouch, and even better on fuel. I've got one at the minute, not a lot will get away from it  :y.
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 28 June 2013, 22:11:03
5 Series, 530d, or a 530i  :y.

Tough choice probably 530i or 535i I'd go for  :)

Then again apparently the 530D does 0-62 in 7.3 seconds and very good mpg  :o

Audi V8 TDI's are very impressive too, great performance and great economy!

Like the look of the Audi A8's nice finish inside and out A6 not bad either  :y

A8's make Omega feel like a 1990's Skoda in terms of build and feel, whether that equals reliability I can't say. Lack of decent forums for DIY work puts me off, as I love the driving position and layout of the dash and arm rest area.

I bet  ;D .. They do look very nicely laid out the A8's although as with the new 5 series I don't like the exterior looks of the new A8's interior looks very nice though, Servicing, parts and reliability need to be looked into mind before getting one... But it does look pretty safe that there are nice cars out there that will one day be a viable Omega replacement  :y
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 28 June 2013, 22:36:50
the thing to remember is Budget......   and the inevitable wanting the moon on a stick,  i want what doesn't often happen,  a decent low mileage reliable cheap bargain of the century, if i had a bit more time,  i'd have more money.....  but,  i've got to go to Llangwnadl (look it up,  it's the arse end of the arse end of nowhere, with no short cuts getting there.)  in 2 weeks,  then again 2 weeks later, then arbroath early august,  between these i'll be commuting to camden, and bristol.... 

I like the idea of the 5 series....  hadn't even considered the jag till i spotted an gorgeous one in blue going for a shade under 2 grand,  with FJMDSH 83K miles,  and more bells and whistles than i can shake several sticks at.....   every option, literally.....    then i looked up the specs, got the parkers guide write up,  did a comparison with the omega and found that i thought i could live with it....      and although i was aware of it being a glorified mondeo, since mondeos are apparently much better than they were in mk1 guise..   i thought i'd give it some thought.....  if you see what i mean

i've got no problem with it being an old man's car,  i'm only a hop skip and jump from 50 and due to be a grandparent twice this year....  first grandson due in 5 weeks.   next in september....

however the rust and electrical issues bother me.....

rather like the 4wd bit ....  Mother is moving to the arse of beyond, (Llangwnadl...      really,   next stop ireland...  it's also earth quake central at the moment...  maybe the land has heard my mum is coming back and is trying to escape ;)   )  and there's no hope of getting there in an mv6 if more than a flake of snow falls.

Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 28 June 2013, 22:43:47
PS, yes Josh it would be good to see you again mate.....  still reckon i owe you a curry for the help getting the Mv6 way back when.....   

I have a 51 plate elite estate on the hook on flea bay....   we'll wait and see if there's a last minute bidding rush.... 



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221245281751?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221245281751?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649)

before heading off to 5 series or V70 territory,  but if you know of any sources that fit my budget and desires....  i'd be happy to hand you cash and trust in what you turn up if it comes to it mate.... 

one more thing....  models desired should either have, or be capable of having retrofitted,  SAT NAV.

i go too many weird places not to have it,  and i dislike screen mounted anythings intensely... 

*i have a tom tom....  and an iphone,  but i LIKE to use the NCDC system , it doesn't obscure vision, or remove attention from the road.... and i'd like something similar in the next car....


Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 28 June 2013, 22:47:15
PS, yes Josh it would be good to see you again mate.....  still reckon i owe you a curry for the help getting the Mv6 way back when.....   

I have a 51 plate elite estate on the hook on flea bay....   we'll wait and see if there's a last minute bidding rush.... 



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221245281751?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221245281751?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649)

before heading off to 5 series or V70 territory,  but if you know of any sources that fit my budget and desires....  i'd be happy to hand you cash and trust in what you turn up if it comes to it mate.... 

one more thing....  models desired should either have, or be capable of having retrofitted,  SAT NAV.

i go too many weird places not to have it,  and i dislike screen mounted anythings intensely... 

*i have a tom tom....  and an iphone,  but i LIKE to use the NCDC system , it doesn't obscure vision, or remove attention from the road.... and i'd like something similar in the next car....

Thought that looked familiar...

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=115909.msg1465242#msg1465242

Best of luck either way  ;)
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 29 June 2013, 22:23:42
i got some extra photos from the seller tonight,   the tailgate is victim of the usual wiper arm area rust ,  quite badly really....    if i win, first thing to do is find another bloody boot.....    my older Y plater 3.2 Mv6 is in MUCH better nick there,  shame it's silver....

most of the rest of it looks okay,  but "of it's age and mileage"  it's not pristine....   but it's not a dog either....   or seemingly so . 

I've bid a fair price for it....   if anyone bids more they can have it....   but they'll be paying over the odds. (and in which case, would they also like to pay similar OTT prices for an Mv6 estate  with 1 year old original lowered chassis Shocks and springs , drop links, bushes ,and wishbones ??? )

cam belt change is not due quite yet....   

Despite my better judgement i'm also rather attracted to an 05 plate X type estate , 3.0 sport premium .....  in metallic white.....    miles higher than i want,  price at top of my range....  but opps me it's pretty....       as is a graphite ish 2.5 SE one up in St Helens ...   

utterly failing to find the right 5 series...   

there was an 06 plater later one on for £2600 on 105k miles,  priced for quick sale.... but A) it sounded dodgy , B) i aint got £2600 quite....   not if i want to be able to drive back from buying it....   or eat for the next week.

Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Vamps on 29 June 2013, 23:47:25
ouch......      not come across any mention of this issue till now..... and it has me worried.....thanks for the heads up.... very informative....   

 been looking at 53/04 V6 estates for a couple of grand ...  it HAS to be an estate no matter what i get..... 

might still win the 51 elite estate  on bay of fleas on sunday,  so no sudden moves just yet.....    but i'm preparing the ground....   I need to replace or repair by the 12th of july....    when i start doing galactic miles again.... 


figured if i get something this weekend/early next week i have time to have it serviced and checked out (assuming it needs it) ....

there's a nice looking 2004 53 plate 2.5 V6SE Estate  up in St Helen's  , but you can be damn sure skippy if i go up there to check it out  ,  i'll be sticking my hand up inside those sills.   

can't afford much newer at the moment,   trying to balance the difference between  age and mileage....  was aiming for sub100k if i could get it and under £2.5k

It's you is it that has come riding in with what he thinks will be the winning bid? How big's your wallet?....... ::) ::) :D :D
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 30 June 2013, 00:03:10
come riding in?  3rd bidder ,  on day 1 or 2 of the auction.... been the highest bidder since then....     and if you want to pay more than I bid,  be very welcome.....    I'll go buy the jag instead.... 

if it wasn't for the tailgate i'd bid a lot more.....  I have a very interesting photo of the glovebox. 



Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 30 June 2013, 00:04:08
PS, bid before i was aware there had been talk on here.
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Vamps on 30 June 2013, 00:14:16
PS, bid before i was aware there had been talk on here.

Sorry, that was cruel..... ;) ;)  I am not bidding on that, looks very nice though, we were looking for an estate but decided to get the whole hog done on the saloon, belts etc, so we are keeping that....... :y :y

There are a couple of estates that are tempting though......... ;) ;)
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: BazaJT on 30 June 2013, 11:00:12
Don't know about the gearboxes on X-types,all I've ever heard of in that area is that the weakness is in the transfer box on the 4wd versions.
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 30 June 2013, 21:10:49
Didn't win the Omega,        even with a telematics and CID etc,  i'm not paying £1400 for a car only  a few weeks younger than my existing one....  + no tax,  so add another £280 ,  brings it up to nigh on £1700...,


at which point , i may as well.  either fix my mv6 up ,  or spend only a couple of hundred more and pickup a  4 year younger car....   seen a 3.0 diesel elite veccy on about a 54 plate ....  120k miles....   reckon a big diseasel ought to be just about run in then,....

Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: tunnie on 30 June 2013, 21:12:03
Whats the budget Max?

As Kevin says, BMW 5 Touring? Has to be said lot more examples to be had of that.

V8's too  :-*
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 30 June 2013, 23:03:05
Well,   absolute limit 2.5k,    prefer 2k

coz i'll have to stump up for new motor before selling the Mv6

Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 30 June 2013, 23:04:59
and i've only just put 12 months tax on the Mv6,  so i need the new car to be taxed...   at least for a couple of months.... 
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: chrisgixer on 30 June 2013, 23:05:47
Aw Max, just fix the Mv6 surely?

Your buying into another load of faults at that price range, where's the gain?
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 30 June 2013, 23:08:14
Aw Max, just fix the Mv6 surely?

Your buying into another load of faults at that price range, where's the gain?

+1 Sure someone on here would do the repairs reasonably cheap and OOF quality no garages ?  :-\
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 30 June 2013, 23:20:57
I'm getting to the point of being leery about spending the value of the vehicle on the vehicle to keep it on the road for how long?

bear in mind i'm not terribly car DIY handy....  mostly coz it hurts my back and neck badly....     so i pay people to do it....    it's marginally  cheaper than being incapacitated....       thus any job at all basically means money.....


the mv6 has 156k on it,   and my next couple of months ,  if i stick with it ,  will take it to 165k .


body work is pretty good,   all the electrical bits are fine...  ,  but needs

Aux drive belt. (+ anything?)
new lambda sensors , especially passenger side (heater circuit open circuit)
cam belt due in 5k. (and the water pump, for good measure)
crank sensor leaking oil , so new crank sensor...   
near rear tyres (tread wear , )
air con regas again , suspect seals gone ,  and besides,  compressor bearing unbearably noisy.
brake wear sensors.
suspension set up , still not all that happy with it's leftwards tendency after last years new suspension....)
rear TA bushes


 + oil change , service.....     etc....   , 


all in one hit , that's gonna cost me a grand....   if i'm lucky....

if i'm forking out that much,....   there's an element of thinking i may as well spend a bit more, get something with less miles on and newer....   



Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 30 June 2013, 23:23:11
oh, and cheaper to run ......     seriously considering diseasel at present.... 

Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 30 June 2013, 23:27:35
to be fair, the Mv6 has been a great car,   racked up 60 k since i bought her,  in 3 years....   spent a fair bit on her , but despite her faults , it's still a great drive....     if i could have a time machine to roll 4 years and 50k off her.... i'd keep her , no question.....     well probably....


but it's probably time for a change....   


Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: tunnie on 30 June 2013, 23:30:11
http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201305196838447/sort/default/usedcars/body-type/estate/maximum-mileage/up_to_100000_miles/price-to/3000/model/5_series/make/bmw/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/nn136er/page/1/radius/1501?logcode=p (http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201305196838447/sort/default/usedcars/body-type/estate/maximum-mileage/up_to_100000_miles/price-to/3000/model/5_series/make/bmw/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/nn136er/page/1/radius/1501?logcode=p)

Has to be the best looking 5 Series that shape
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 01 July 2013, 11:23:35
what do we think of these then ?

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/2002-bmw-525i-se-tourer-amazing-condition-fsh/1023803074#photo-content (http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/2002-bmw-525i-se-tourer-amazing-condition-fsh/1023803074#photo-content)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201306227435295/ (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201306227435295/)
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 01 July 2013, 13:00:56
to add insult to injury, suspect the HBV just failed.....    dumped coolant from the back of the engine after a short run to oxford to pick up heavily pregnant daughter.......    bugger
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: omega3000 on 01 July 2013, 13:11:20
what do we think of these then ?

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/2002-bmw-525i-se-tourer-amazing-condition-fsh/1023803074#photo-content (http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/2002-bmw-525i-se-tourer-amazing-condition-fsh/1023803074#photo-content)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201306227435295/ (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201306227435295/)

I like that BMW  ;) Not sure id be paying that for it though  :-\
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: henryd on 01 July 2013, 13:37:34
Didn't win the Omega,        even with a telematics and CID etc,  i'm not paying £1400 for a car only  a few weeks younger than my existing one....  + no tax,  so add another £280 ,  brings it up to nigh on £1700...,


at which point , i may as well.  either fix my mv6 up ,  or spend only a couple of hundred more and pickup a  4 year younger car....   seen a 3.0 diesel elite veccy on about a 54 plate ....  120k miles....   reckon a big diseasel ought to be just about run in then,....

That'll be the same running gear as my Signum,nice engine :y
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 01 July 2013, 14:01:06
if i was to remain my usual mental self,  and ignored the fuel economy ,  how do we feel about the 3.2 in the vectra???


there's a 77k 3.2 elite estate for £1800 with warranty.....   seems too damn good to be true...

(and therefore usually is)

i like the mileage.....  the warranty , and it's a 53 plate 04 model .

need to investigate getting a satnav for it though,  but i presume it's doable,  like the Mig? tech 2 required?...


Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: henryd on 01 July 2013, 14:47:26
if i was to remain my usual mental self,  and ignored the fuel economy ,  how do we feel about the 3.2 in the vectra???


there's a 77k 3.2 elite estate for £1800 with warranty.....   seems too damn good to be true...

(and therefore usually is)

i like the mileage.....  the warranty , and it's a 53 plate 04 model .

need to investigate getting a satnav for it though,  but i presume it's doable,  like the Mig? tech 2 required?...

Thats about what they fetch,worth bugger all,same as the Signum,mines an 04 Cdti Elite and owes me a grand :y
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 July 2013, 14:59:26
The problem is, you'll be lucky to find a car in this price range that hasn't got a few niggles to sort out, as already said. You might be lucky, but most looking to move a car on, and probably taking a big hit of depreciation in the process, are going to have soldiered on until the bills are looming, much as you have.

On the other hand, a 150k Omega wanting for a few hundred quid of work will easily have another 50k in it without any trouble. I guess you have to take the plunge some time, but the situation you are in is not conducive to biding your time and plucking a used bargain wanting for no maintenance.

A 77k 3.2 Veccy is ready for a cam belt change (and access is a PITA on the transverse setup), plugs, probably disks and pads at the rear... I think I'd throw a little cash at one of the OOF mechanics and get the Omega reliable, then spend the next year thinking about its' replacement without being under too much pressure, TBH. :-\
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 01 July 2013, 15:12:08
Well,  once again, the "stop me getting a new car" gremlin has been at work.... contacted the CDTi seller,  someone beat me to it ,  been the same story with 4 other cars since friday.

break , 


maybe a V70 is about all that's left .... 

Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: chrisgixer on 01 July 2013, 17:37:41
I'm getting to the point of being leery about spending the value of the vehicle on the vehicle to keep it on the road for how long?

bear in mind i'm not terribly car DIY handy....  mostly coz it hurts my back and neck badly....     so i pay people to do it....    it's marginally  cheaper than being incapacitated....       thus any job at all basically means money.....


the mv6 has 156k on it,   and my next couple of months ,  if i stick with it ,  will take it to 165k .


body work is pretty good,   all the electrical bits are fine...  ,  but needs

Aux drive belt. (+ anything?)
new lambda sensors , especially passenger side (heater circuit open circuit)
cam belt due in 5k. (and the water pump, for good measure)
crank sensor leaking oil , so new crank sensor...   
near rear tyres (tread wear , )
air con regas again , suspect seals gone ,  and besides,  compressor bearing unbearably noisy.
brake wear sensors.
suspension set up , still not all that happy with it's leftwards tendency after last years new suspension....)
rear TA bushes


 + oil change , service.....     etc....   , 


all in one hit , that's gonna cost me a grand....   if i'm lucky....

if i'm forking out that much,....   there's an element of thinking i may as well spend a bit more, get something with less miles on and newer....   




I'll concede the mileage, although we know they will go on and on. If TB can get 200k out of his mv6 by raging the tats off it everywhere I'm sure the rest of us can.

Fixing the car will save you £1500 sobs, and there is nothing at all to say the new car won't need all that lot doing anyway.

Seems to me anyway.


I don't subscribe to the value of the car to a buyer, its the value to the owner that's important. And as your finding, you've already bought the right car, so replacing it is going to be a disappointment. Discount the tyre and service items theres not much more to do with yours.

Stick with the car you know, in my humble opinion of course. :)
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: symes on 01 July 2013, 19:31:38
^^^^^^^^ +1 as above :y
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 08 July 2013, 11:50:35
Well,    the old girl is listed in the for sale section..... 

and her successor is very very nice......   ;)   i needed a vehicle fairly immediately at the end of last week.....   so..... went and bought something....   i'll let you deduce what,  let's just say it's very pretty, has lots of toys,  is really very comfy, drives superbly, has a warranty,  and is not suffering from any of the well known faults the model is cursed with , (yet! , touch wood) .....

keen eyed members will spot it in the omega photos for the sale ad... 



i'd be tempted to keep the mv6 as well  if the insurance wasn't going to crucify me....   but my second car NCD is already in use on a corsa for my son to learn to drive in...

and i don't much feel like funding a 3rd world country's national debt for an Mv6 insurance with zero NCD>...    and don;t say Admiral.....   bunch of tossers been there, done that will never ever use that group of companies again... ever....   
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Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: omega3000 on 08 July 2013, 15:40:35
An E type  :-\ ::)
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 08 July 2013, 15:45:46
An E type  :-\ ::)

Looks like an x type estate  :-\ also see a Astra in the picture. Bet it's the Jaguar though  ;)
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 08 July 2013, 17:05:03
Astra is the daughter's jalopy.....  pile of pooh  that it is

 :y

I admit it,   did go get a 2.5 X-type, despite the warnings.....  really really REALLY tried to find a 2.2 diesel one in budget without intergalactic miles, ,  but no luck,  so , next time maybe,       no whine form transfer box, not rot in sills, 99k miles, with service history,  all electrics functional ,  6 month warranty,  6 months tax, 12 months mot,   53 plate , registered early 04,     

Air con is ice cold,  it's fully loaded with the satnav and phone and so on.... 
  drives lovely....   different from the Mv6,  but quick and precise enough to enjoy, but uses a fair bit less jungle juice doing it....

 Colwyn Bay to Berinsfield,  not on the motorway,  (CB>Chester>wrexham>oswestry>shrewsbury> bridgnorth>kidderminster>bromsgrove>M42/m40/a34/a4074 )  smidge under 3 hours,   and a smidge under  30 litres of fuel...  , which is 10-12 litres less than the Mv6 used....  so i'm happy.... 

it's rather pretty.....   is all i have to say in my defence...

Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2013, 17:16:09
Hope it serves you well Max  :y
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 08 July 2013, 17:42:06
me too mate.....     ;)   wifey will not be impressed otherwise....


here she is.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16491186@N03/sets/72157634544545537/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16491186@N03/sets/72157634544545537/)

Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: henryd on 08 July 2013, 17:44:36
me too mate.....     ;)   wifey will not be impressed otherwise....


here she is.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16491186@N03/sets/72157634544545537/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16491186@N03/sets/72157634544545537/)

That looks very nice Max,good luck with it :y :y
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 08 July 2013, 17:50:50
I also looked at 5 series, Veccie CDTIv6 , and the V70 ,


this was the 8th car on my shortlist,   everything sold through VERY fast....   
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: TheBoy on 08 July 2013, 18:06:41
if i was to remain my usual mental self,  and ignored the fuel economy ,  how do we feel about the 3.2 in the vectra???
Absolute hoot for a quick blat, but I couldn't live with one. The chassis simply cannot handle that amount of power, even with premium front tyres.

The other issue I had (only driven 2 (different) GSi's, never an Elite) is the suspension is non existent. A real back breaker, even over short distances. Guess thats the price you have to pay for putting that amount of power into a poor chassis :(
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: MaxV6 on 09 July 2013, 00:47:25
tried a 2.8T elite.... familiar territory for equipment,  knew what everything did, and how to use it all,   but  hated it..... like being dragged about by a jack russell on a tiled floor chasing a cat....  ,   and felt every little bump in the road like it was a personal assault on my spine.    but decided i probably would have learned to live with the 3.0CDTI Elite for the fuel cost savings...if i could find one.....   at the right price,  without having been to the moon and back....   ....   

learning how stuff works in the jag is a STEEP learning curve....     haven't as yet put it through the voice control training....  (yes it's fitted !) but the sat nav is okay,  as is the phone,   but i'm still looking for a way to get my contacts list (iphone,  so a bit of a bugger)  on to the sim card to transfer it  (the nav/stereo apparently  just predates the bluetooth version....   i can get the module etc and retrofit, but it's about £500 secondhand (with aerial module etc) ....  it's about as rare as hens teeth , bit like  a teletronics. )

there's a few little niggles,  as would be expected,  right hand side luggage cover clip is broken,  but found a replacement for about 3 quid....   ,  it's missing it's tool kit,  but at least it has a jack !     a few bubbles of corrosion on window trims (will be replaceable i think) , but none on the body work...     brake disks are okay, but a bit thin , so will replace them in the not massively distant future... but masses of meat on the pads....   

stupid bloody space saver spare.....    haven;t measured up yet,  but pretty damn sure i won;t get an 18x7.5  inch full size spare wearing 225/40  in there..... 

it was also missing the locking wheel nut key..... ARGHHHH

went to Jag.....     they charged me.......  get this....    £9.71 inc vat to remove the locking wheel nuts,  supply and fit 4 new std ones,   and gave me posh tea and biscuits while i waited.    (and will order me a new set of locking ones as they cannot supply the new key,  apparently the manufacturer doesn't allow it....   to be fair it's a type i've never seen before...  ....so i don;t know the score,  i've had replacement keys from other manufacturers in the past,  but frankly the cost  was about the same as Jag talked about for the whole set. ITRO £65 )

   and the price of a full  main service.....  ?   all fluids and filters etc etc.....    £299 inc vat.     
that's £80 LESS than i was quoted by VX main stealer recently on the omega.


Minor service is £199.   which doesn't seem so great....

 
one irritation is the speedo, it's all there, and works etc,  but the small diameter means it's all a bit squashed up, there's not a helluva lot of distance between the 10's ,   trying to drive in a 30 limit is somewhat variable .....   mostly because i'm damned if i can tell if i'm doing 28 or 32.


Stereo sounds WAY BETTER  than the omega .....

;)  which is nice for me.... I was happy with Bose rig,  but the bog std NCDC was a bit pants....    but this is much nicer than the Bose rig, never mind the std NCDC.
Title: Re: time for a change
Post by: tunnie on 09 July 2013, 09:15:29
Jag are quite good on Service costs, let us know how you get on Max, as a XJ TDVi is on my list for potential replacements  :y