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[omega3000]

Went into Vauxhall showroom and had a sit in the astra and insignia , very disappointing  Steering wheel height crap in both cars , feels cramped in both as well compared to mig  The sales bloke said what car are you driving now , i said MV6 . He said whats that then 
 

[chrisgixer]

Now if you'd said shed of the week he'd of understood of course.

But seriously, the steering wheel is adjustable for rake and reach, I hope?

[MR MISTER]

Went into Vauxhall showroom and had a sit in the astra and insignia , very disappointing  Steering wheel height crap in both cars , feels cramped in both as well compared to mig  The sales bloke said what car are you driving now , i said MV6 . He said whats that then
 

Yup 

[omega3000]

Now if you'd said shed of the week he'd of understood of course.

Bit seriously, the steering wheel is adjustable for rake and reach, I hope?

The adjustment was at full height  Was like trying to drive a noddy car 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Now if you'd said shed of the week he'd of understood of course.

But seriously, the steering wheel is adjustable for rake and reach, I hope?

Yep, cant comment on the Insignia but the steering wheel on the Astra has a huge range of adjustment

[MR MISTER]

It's EMD, he's a kinda strange shape.

[chrisgixer]

Now if you'd said shed of the week he'd of understood of course.

But seriously, the steering wheel is adjustable for rake and reach, I hope?

Yep, cant comment on the Insignia but the steering wheel on the Astra has a huge range of adjustment

I know the insignia does too, going by the vxr I sat in a couple of weeks ago.

[omega3000]

Went to Nissan , the QASHQAI was more pleasing and far better trim . Easier to get in and out of . He also knew what that shed was in the car park 

[omega3000]

Now if you'd said shed of the week he'd of understood of course.

But seriously, the steering wheel is adjustable for rake and reach, I hope?

Yep, cant comment on the Insignia but the steering wheel on the Astra has a huge range of adjustment

Must have been the spotty sales bloke that didnt tell me about any more adjustment then 

[chrisgixer]

It's EMD, he's a kinda strange shape.

I was kinda hoping he'd explain why he didn't adjust it himself, but.... Oh well.

[MR MISTER]

Now if you'd said shed of the week he'd of understood of course.

But seriously, the steering wheel is adjustable for rake and reach, I hope?

Yep, cant comment on the Insignia but the steering wheel on the Astra has a huge range of adjustment

And you couldn't work it out yourself? Fickin stroll on.......

Must have been the spotty sales bloke that didnt tell me about any more adjustment then 

[omega3000]

Who cares they are both shite 

[chrisgixer]

Now if you'd said shed of the week he'd of understood of course.

But seriously, the steering wheel is adjustable for rake and reach, I hope?

Yep, cant comment on the Insignia but the steering wheel on the Astra has a huge range of adjustment

And you couldn't work it out yourself? Fickin stroll on.......

Must have been the spotty sales bloke that didnt tell me about any more adjustment then 

Meds Esta. Meds!

[omega3000]

Mig is far superior than anything in the showroom 

[MR MISTER]

Who cares they are both shite 

The '57 plate astra we had was a great little car. Very nippy and plenty of reach/rake on the steering wheel.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Emd, Emd, Emd........

You scrap a Mig and get a Pug! Not happy and you tell us you want another Mig.
You get rid of the Pug and get a Veccy. Better, but you tell us that what you really want is another Mig!
After much searching, posting of ebay links and discussion you buy another Mig!!

Now you're going into showrooms looking at Astras, Insignias, Antaras and lordy lordy an ebay Lexus!!! 

What is it that you really really want?   

PS STEMO can provide counselling if needs be!! 

[05omegav6]

Who cares they are both shite 

The '57 plate astra we had was a great little car. Very nippy and plenty of reach/rake on the steering wheel.

All well and good, but just not a Daewoo...

[chrisgixer]

Emd, Emd, Emd........

You scrap a Mig and get a Pug! Not happy and you tell us you want another Mig.
You get rid of the Pug and get a Veccy. Better, but you tell us that what you really want is another Mig!
After much searching, posting of ebay links and discussion you buy another Mig!!

Now you're going into showrooms looking at Astras, Insignias, Antaras and lordy lordy an ebay Lexus!!! 

What is it that you really really want?   

PS STEMO can provide counselling if needs be!! 

Perfect management material IMO.

[omega3000]

Emd, Emd, Emd........

You scrap a Mig and get a Pug! Not happy and you tell us you want another Mig.
You get rid of the Pug and get a Veccy. Better, but you tell us that what you really want is another Mig!
After much searching, posting of ebay links and discussion you buy another Mig!!

Now you're going into showrooms looking at Astras, Insignias, Antaras and lordy lordy an ebay Lexus!!! 

What is it that you really really want?   

PS STEMO can provide counselling if needs be!! 

 

I want a VXR8 

[omega3000]

Besides i was only looking Mr 


Whats next Daewoo 

[I_want_an_Omega]

Mig is far superior than anything in the showroom 

Which will be why they stopped making the Omega then 

The Omega was a fantastic car, and very much of it's time, beating the Scorpio hands down sales wise. I know, I had several from new. In the UK it was aimed fair and square at the company car driver - fact, with much cheaper fuel prices as well. That's the main reason that there are so many around now for us to pick-up cheap. Don't get me wrong, it's still a great now car if you don't mind spending out on fuel and high road tax costs in comparison to a current model.

Very subjective discussion & no right answer I'm afraid ........

All IMHO of course.

[Marks DTM Calib]

And the Astra J is a much better car than the H

[omega3000]

We should put in a petition for a new Omega to be reborn 




I had a look at the Ford range , boy are they dull looking 

[Webby the Bear]

I really like the looks of the insignia and the astra. the insignia has a lovely front end (reminds me of continental gt) but the rear is something im still unsure on especially after all the ''squatting dog'' comments on here.

the astra though. that's a beauty no question.

as for comfort/ride/driving I cant comment as never been in.

[chrisgixer]

We should put in a petition for a new Omega to be reborn  ;

Oh keep up at the back. There was a rumour of a new omega, a concept actually, a re hashed front wheel drive minger. Do you really think gm will release a new rear wheel drive in the current economic climate...?

And we can't afford a new car anyway. ...although a year after release we might.

[omega3000]

After sitting in both in the showroom then getting back into the omega , the omega wins hands down for comfort and space  And the omega steering wheel is like a lorries 

[Webby the Bear]

After sitting in both in the showroom then getting back into the omega , the omega wins hands down for comfort and space  And the omega steering wheel is like a lorries 

 

[chrisgixer]

After sitting in both in the showroom then getting back into the omega , the omega wins hands down for comfort and space  And the omega steering wheel is like a lorries 

Just a small point. The omega steering wheel is adjustable for rake only as you know, where as the Astra and insignia are adjustable for reach as well. This makes both cars infinitely better than the omega in this regard, and I know this from first hand experience of the insignia.

There may be many reasons to prefer an omega, but the adjustability of the steering wheel is not one if them, especially as you didn't adjust it and drive the car yourself as its either set to make getting in and out easier for a show room setting, or somebody else has been able to adjust it themselves. Silly!

[Rods2]

Who cares they are both shite 

The '57 plate astra we had was a great little car. Very nippy and plenty of reach/rake on the windscreen between replacements.

Fixed. 

[Kevin Wood]

Just a small point. The omega steering wheel is adjustable for rake only as you know, where as the Astra and insignia are adjustable for reach as well....

..but they're connected to the same wheels as the engine, which will never do.

[relluf]

Went into Vauxhall showroom and had a sit in the astra and insignia , very disappointing  Steering wheel height crap in both cars , feels cramped in both as well compared to mig  The sales bloke said what car are you driving now , i said MV6 . He said whats that then 
 

Reminds me of when I was wandering round a Nissan/ Citroen main dealer, Mr guy smiley comes over....

Him , "hi how can i help? what are you looking for?"
Me, Nothing really just musing
Him, You looking to part ex the Veccy then?
Me  Its an Omega
Him  Doesnt look like one.
Me  Well it is.
Him Thirsty them big 3 litres.
Me  its a 2.5
Him  Well still lots of fuel
Me Its a diesel.
Him They didnt do one.
Me  get back in car and drive away.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Besides i was only looking Mr 

I thought you were getting confused!    Hence the offer of counselling from STEMO...... 

[TheBoy]

Now if you'd said shed of the week he'd of understood of course.

But seriously, the steering wheel is adjustable for rake and reach, I hope?

Yep, cant comment on the Insignia but the steering wheel on the Astra has a huge range of adjustment

The dull Insignia I took to France last year had plenty of adjustment. In fact, I found the 850 miles each way surprisingly comfortable and easy (and remember I had a severely buggered back at the time)

[MarkG]

I bought my wife a 59 plate 60k miles new shape Astra J back in June. 1.7 Diesel SRI. It's a really great car. Much, much better than the Laguna Initiale it replaced. She's done about 10k miles since we bought it and apart from 4 new injectors and a set of tyres, nothing has gone wrong. It's very well built, quiet, looks good, goes round corners like it's on rails, the cabin layout is very nice and the seats body hugging supportive. And it still returns about 38 mpg town driving.   

[henryd]

I bought my wife a 59 plate 60k miles new shape Astra J back in June. 1.7 Diesel SRI. It's a really great car. Much, much better than the Laguna Initiale it replaced. She's done about 10k miles since we bought it and apart from 4 new injectors and a set of tyres, nothing has gone wrong. It's very well built, quiet, looks good, goes round corners like it's on rails, the cabin layout is very nice and the seats body hugging supportive. And it still returns about 38 mpg town driving.

Nothing has gone wrong ,4 new injectors isn't a service requirement is it?,I'd be gutted if a car with that milage needed anything tbh

[MarkG]

Replacing injectors isn't a big deal and they are not expensive. Trade Club around £20 each I think. One was triggering an error code so I chose to replace all 4.

[henryd]

Replacing injectors isn't a big deal and they are not expensive. Trade Club around £20 each I think. One was triggering an error code so I chose to replace all 4.

Fair enough,at that money its no big deal,many modern diesel injectors are circa £150+

[05omegav6]

Replacing injectors isn't a big deal and they are not expensive. Trade Club around £20 each I think. One was triggering an error code so I chose to replace all 4.

Fair enough,at that money its no big deal,many modern diesel injectors are circa £150+

Glow plugs perhaps

[Andy B]

Replacing injectors isn't a big deal and they are not expensive. Trade Club around £20 each I think. One was triggering an error code so I chose to replace all 4.

Fair enough,at that money its no big deal,many modern diesel injectors are circa £150+

Glow plugs perhaps

Quite likely  . I replaced one on my s-in-l's diseasal Astra last year ....... around £15 from Vauxhall

[Marks DTM Calib]

Yep, glow plugs at that price, injectors are circa 200-300 notes each (although thankfuly the Bosch ones are pretty bullet proof on Vx's).

You can get the 1.9 CDTi injectors stripped and cleaned for around 30-40 each (or do it yourself, its surprisingly easy)

[tunnie]

Just out of interest, the 1.9 CDTi is belt driven? Assume so as DTMs views on chains are well known 

[MarkG]

Oops. Quite correct folks. Glow plugs

[Marks DTM Calib]

Just out of interest, the 1.9 CDTi is belt driven? Assume so as DTMs views on chains are well known 

Yes, 100K mile intervals (and rarely break, when they do the rocker arms havea  fracture point in them to provide some protection to the engine internals).

Dead easy to change to

[tunnie]

Just out of interest, the 1.9 CDTi is belt driven? Assume so as DTMs views on chains are well known 

Yes, 100K mile intervals (and rarely break, when they do the rocker arms havea  fracture point in them to provide some protection to the engine internals).

Dead easy to change to

Thanks 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I really like the looks of the insignia and the astra. the insignia has a lovely front end (reminds me of continental gt) but the rear is something im still unsure on especially after all the ''squatting dog'' comments on here.

the astra though. that's a beauty no question.

as for comfort/ride/driving I cant comment as never been in.

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Get thee to a head doctor or specsavers, Mr Bear..........before all hope is lost.

The Insignia is a mutated minger of a car.



However, your remarks about it looking like a dog  about to take a dump, are quite apt.