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Re: Stag LPG kit supplier...?
« Reply #15 on: 14 December 2010, 19:01:28 »

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So where did you 2 get yours?
Mine came from Teilo
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Re: Stag LPG kit supplier...?
« Reply #16 on: 14 December 2010, 21:49:01 »

One thought, which I think we talked about, was fitting stag, see how it goes, and if there is a lag issue fit prins injectors.
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Re: Stag LPG kit supplier...?
« Reply #17 on: 14 December 2010, 21:54:06 »

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One thought, which I think we talked about, was fitting stag, see how it goes, and if there is a lag issue fit prins injectors.
Ah, did I include you on some of that info I got about the lag, and preferred injectors?
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Re: Stag LPG kit supplier...?
« Reply #18 on: 14 December 2010, 22:02:21 »

Probably but remind me.  :-[
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Re: Stag LPG kit supplier...?
« Reply #19 on: 14 December 2010, 22:04:56 »

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Probably but remind me.  :-[
Valtek should be OK in an Omega, but something else (escapes me) would be preferred, and to richen the map at the lag point...
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Re: Stag LPG kit supplier...?
« Reply #20 on: 14 December 2010, 22:10:36 »

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Have a look here Chris, i'm sure you can 'mix & match' stuff in the kits re:injectors with a slight price adjustment?  :y



http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CC8QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autogas-lpg.co.uk%2Finjector-sequential-injection%2F30-magic-jet-4-cylinders.html&ei=ap4HTc6MLZGYhQfNl5T1Dw&usg=AFQjCNEd0sUISV1Mmk5uwQqpGF27I3CSzA






I'm SO sorry Chris, what a numpty I am! :-[ ;D :y









Bumped this in case Chris missed it. Sorry! :-[ ;)
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« Reply #21 on: 14 December 2010, 22:12:42 »

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Probably but remind me.  :-[
Valtek should be OK in an Omega, but something else (escapes me) would be preferred, and to richen the map at the lag point...
Ah, so lag is "lean"...?
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Re: Stag LPG kit supplier...?
« Reply #22 on: 14 December 2010, 22:14:55 »

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Probably but remind me.  :-[
Valtek should be OK in an Omega, but something else (escapes me) would be preferred, and to richen the map at the lag point...
Ah, so lag is "lean"...?
Who knows, that its a theory
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« Reply #23 on: 14 December 2010, 22:17:33 »

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Have a look here Chris, i'm sure you can 'mix & match' stuff in the kits re:injectors with a slight price adjustment?  :y



http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CC8QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autogas-lpg.co.uk%2Finjector-sequential-injection%2F30-magic-jet-4-cylinders.html&ei=ap4HTc6MLZGYhQfNl5T1Dw&usg=AFQjCNEd0sUISV1Mmk5uwQqpGF27I3CSzA






I'm SO sorry Chris, what a numpty I am! :-[ ;D :y









Bumped this in case Chris missed it. Sorry! :-[ ;)
Ooh yes, I had missed it. Thankyou Phil, and no worries.  :y

Had viewed that site briefly but not seen the better components needed. I'll bell them in the morning?

Ta  :-*
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« Reply #24 on: 14 December 2010, 22:27:35 »

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Valtek should be OK in an Omega, but something else (escapes me) would be preferred, and to richen the map at the lag point...
Ah, so lag is "lean"...?
Who knows, that its a theory
From looking at the petrol only data log Kev did on mine over the weekend, re throttle actual position v pedal position, the throttle is never shut fully in as much that the petrol ecu manages the over run by feeding air to smooth it out on dbw engine. Maybe the LPG fuel feed is not keeping up with the DBW throttle settings from the petrol map on the over run...if you see what I mean?


But again, dejahvou,  we have discussed this before, although I had forgotten your info, you did tell me.


So, stag kit and fiddle with injectors if needed. A plan ?
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Re: Stag LPG kit supplier...?
« Reply #25 on: 15 December 2010, 00:00:55 »

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From looking at the petrol only data log Kev did on mine over the weekend, re throttle actual position v pedal position, the throttle is never shut fully in as much that the petrol ecu manages the over run by feeding air to smooth it out on dbw engine. Maybe the LPG fuel feed is not keeping up with the DBW throttle settings from the petrol map on the over run...if you see what I mean?

Thought had crossed my mind but throttle remains wide open during upshift and torque reduce is done by ignition retard.

Also, throttle certainly stays open on a non-DBW.

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I recalibrated mine last week, and now I have bad lag. WTF.

Well, points to a tuning issue then?  :-/

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Re: Stag LPG kit supplier...?
« Reply #26 on: 15 December 2010, 11:21:41 »

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So where did you 2 get yours?

Front end kit from eBay, tank and rear end kit Tinleytech.  :)

Got 90L tank for price of 80L  ;D
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« Reply #27 on: 15 December 2010, 13:11:01 »

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From looking at the petrol only data log Kev did on mine over the weekend, re throttle actual position v pedal position, the throttle is never shut fully in as much that the petrol ecu manages the over run by feeding air to smooth it out on dbw engine. Maybe the LPG fuel feed is not keeping up with the DBW throttle settings from the petrol map on the over run...if you see what I mean?

Thought had crossed my mind but throttle remains wide open during upshift and torque reduce is done by ignition retard.

Also, throttle certainly stays open on a non-DBW.

So thinking two differant issues possibly? we all have the gear change lag to a certain degree, but do the the throttle cable cars have the lift off lag as well? thinking not, although unsure what effect the icv will have on the non dbw cars at the relevant engine speeds?
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Re: Stag LPG kit supplier...?
« Reply #28 on: 15 December 2010, 14:04:56 »

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So thinking two differant issues possibly? we all have the gear change lag to a certain degree, but do the the throttle cable cars have the lift off lag as well? thinking not, although unsure what effect the icv will have on the non dbw cars at the relevant engine speeds?

I'm, thinking we need a selection of cars and a vacant airfield to figure out if we're all getting the same issue.

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Re: Stag LPG kit supplier...?
« Reply #29 on: 15 December 2010, 16:40:20 »

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One thought, which I think we talked about, was fitting stag, see how it goes, and if there is a lag issue fit prins injectors.


Keihin injectors are used by Prins

They are expensive and difficult to obtain
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