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Is there a smaller Chinook type military helicopter?
We were at Croome National Trust today & helicopter flew over. I want to say it was a Chinook but it didn't look big enough. I've stood next to one years ago on the Falklands so know they are HUGE .... perhaps this one today was just flying higher than I thought 🙄
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Is there a smaller Chinook type military helicopter?
We were at Croome National Trust today & helicopter flew over. I want to say it was a Chinook but it didn't look big enough. I've stood next to one years ago on the Falklands so know they are HUGE .... perhaps this one today was just flying higher than I thought 🙄
There are - Google CH46 Sea Knight. Or Bristol Belvedere. And a few others. Kamen Husky HH43 had a queer interleaved affair, and there are Russian Ka26/28/228's have contra-rotating gear.
However, none of these types are currently in the UK, at least not airworthy ones. The only twin rotors you're likely to see here are Chinooks. Or Ospreys if you turn it through j.
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Playing over Glasgow today -
https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-baffled-sight-sound-two-21446126
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The headline on that link is a bit dramatic, a couple of Apaches would be more of a concern :-\
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Regularly over our way, and rarely over 200 feet
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Thanks .... it'll have been a Chinook then. Obviously it's been a while since I've seen one so close up ::)
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Its worth considering
(https://i.redd.it/4ib8ss4rh0p11.jpg)
Apologies, I could not help myself :y
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Or perhaps ask for this as a Christmas/birthday prezzie
https://www.amazon.co.uk/i-SPY-Aircraft-Michelin-Guides/dp/2067188348
For info, ZA705 and ZA708 both fuel & lunch stopped at Barton on their way north to Lossiemouth yesterday. Barton has a webcam where you can observe the goings on.
https://www.cityairportandheliport.com/webcameast
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Lunch? I'm in the wrong job... ;D
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Its worth considering
(https://i.redd.it/4ib8ss4rh0p11.jpg)
Apologies, I could not help myself :y
;D ;D ;D
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Must have been a VERY slow news day in Glasgow if they got excited about a couple if Chinooks. ;D Impressive as they are though. :y Makes a change from batflue or drug and alcohol deaths i suppose. :(
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Following on from last post. Saw a 4 engine WW11 bomber go over Bury St. Eds. at 1.30pm today. I think it was a Lanc. but as it was going away when i saw it, it could have been a Halifax, (if any are still flying). Anyone else seen it or have any info? Now, that WAS interesting. :D
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Following on from last post. Saw a 4 engine WW11 bomber go over Bury St. Eds. at 1.30pm today. I think it was a Lanc. but as it was going away when i saw it, it could have been a Halifax, (if any are still flying). Anyone else seen it or have any info? Now, that WAS interesting. :D
The only 4 engine bombers in Europe are the BBMF's Lancaster, and B-17 Sally B. Both are at Duxford at the moment, and I don't think (though I'm far from sure) either have flown recently. There are no Halifax's or Stirlings flying anywhere in the world - and there are only one or two in museums. The Lanc is down to attend Bournemouth airshow this weekend, but it's been in rework at Duxford for ages so I don't know if it'll be ready. Therefore the Lancaster is a possibility, but I'd expect it to be all over the forums once it flies again and so far nada.
The other possibility is a C-130 - plenty of them in/around Bury-SE - in which case specsavers and a new I-spy book for you too :-)
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Is there a smaller Chinook type military helicopter?
We were at Croome National Trust today & helicopter flew over. I want to say it was a Chinook but it didn't look big enough. I've stood next to one years ago on the Falklands so know they are HUGE .... perhaps this one today was just flying higher than I thought 🙄
Is this the type Joe Biden kindly donated to the Taliban? :)
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Following on from last post. Saw a 4 engine WW11 bomber go over Bury St. Eds. at 1.30pm today. I think it was a Lanc. but as it was going away when i saw it, it could have been a Halifax, (if any are still flying). Anyone else seen it or have any info? Now, that WAS interesting. :D
The only 4 engine bombers in Europe are the BBMF's Lancaster, and B-17 Sally B. Both are at Duxford at the moment, and I don't think (though I'm far from sure) either have flown recently. There are no Halifax's or Stirlings flying anywhere in the world - and there are only one or two in museums. The Lanc is down to attend Bournemouth airshow this weekend, but it's been in rework at Duxford for ages so I don't know if it'll be ready. Therefore the Lancaster is a possibility, but I'd expect it to be all over the forums once it flies again and so far nada.
The other possibility is a C-130 - plenty of them in/around Bury-SE - in which case specsavers and a new I-spy book for you too :-)
Deffo not a Hercules. Had the twin tail fin as per the Lanc and the great sound, completely different to the C-130. Could have been on a test flight after refurb i suppose.
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Following on from last post. Saw a 4 engine WW11 bomber go over Bury St. Eds. at 1.30pm today. I think it was a Lanc. but as it was going away when i saw it, it could have been a Halifax, (if any are still flying). Anyone else seen it or have any info? Now, that WAS interesting. :D
The only 4 engine bombers in Europe are the BBMF's Lancaster, and B-17 Sally B. Both are at Duxford at the moment, and I don't think (though I'm far from sure) either have flown recently. There are no Halifax's or Stirlings flying anywhere in the world - and there are only one or two in museums. The Lanc is down to attend Bournemouth airshow this weekend, but it's been in rework at Duxford for ages so I don't know if it'll be ready. Therefore the Lancaster is a possibility, but I'd expect it to be all over the forums once it flies again and so far nada.
The other possibility is a C-130 - plenty of them in/around Bury-SE - in which case specsavers and a new I-spy book for you too :-)
Cheeky sod ;D I might be an old fart but my eyes ain't that bad. If i can't tell the difference between a Lanc and a Herc i'd better shoot myself. Oh, i might miss though. :D Was going to phone the IWM at Duxford, but not at 60 odd pence a minute plus a connection fee. >:(
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Thanks .... it'll have been a Chinook then. Obviously it's been a while since I've seen one so close up ::)
I don't know about how other twin rotored helicopters sound, but the Chinook is unmistakable and great! :D :y
We used to have a few flying over here from time to time when the Gurkha's were stationed in Folkestone, but they are a rare sight now. ;)
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Following on from last post. Saw a 4 engine WW11 bomber go over Bury St. Eds. at 1.30pm today. I think it was a Lanc. but as it was going away when i saw it, it could have been a Halifax, (if any are still flying). Anyone else seen it or have any info? Now, that WAS interesting. :D
The only 4 engine bombers in Europe are the BBMF's Lancaster, and B-17 Sally B. Both are at Duxford at the moment, and I don't think (though I'm far from sure) either have flown recently. There are no Halifax's or Stirlings flying anywhere in the world - and there are only one or two in museums. The Lanc is down to attend Bournemouth airshow this weekend, but it's been in rework at Duxford for ages so I don't know if it'll be ready. Therefore the Lancaster is a possibility, but I'd expect it to be all over the forums once it flies again and so far nada.
The other possibility is a C-130 - plenty of them in/around Bury-SE - in which case specsavers and a new I-spy book for you too :-)
Cheeky sod ;D I might be an old fart but my eyes ain't that bad. If i can't tell the difference between a Lanc and a Herc i'd better shoot myself. Oh, i might miss though. :D Was going to phone the IWM at Duxford, but not at 60 odd pence a minute plus a connection fee. >:(
Well, the Lanc was still at Duxford on Saturday evening. There were rumours it was going to depart on Sunday, but I don't think that happened.
There is a thread on UKAR about Duxford Movements. If/when it moves, it'll be on there. https://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=86801&start=200
Personally I doubt it's flown (there would be pictures everywhere on the forums), but I'm 150 miles away and I can't quite see from here. If it wasn't the Lanc, then I'm struggling to think of another 4 engined twin tail warbird in the UK. Perhaps Shakeng has something squirreled away in his own Highland Area51 that he's keeping strictly on a need-to-know basis :-)
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Following on from last post. Saw a 4 engine WW11 bomber go over Bury St. Eds. at 1.30pm today. I think it was a Lanc. but as it was going away when i saw it, it could have been a Halifax, (if any are still flying). Anyone else seen it or have any info? Now, that WAS interesting. :D
The only 4 engine bombers in Europe are the BBMF's Lancaster, and B-17 Sally B. Both are at Duxford at the moment, and I don't think (though I'm far from sure) either have flown recently. There are no Halifax's or Stirlings flying anywhere in the world - and there are only one or two in museums. The Lanc is down to attend Bournemouth airshow this weekend, but it's been in rework at Duxford for ages so I don't know if it'll be ready. Therefore the Lancaster is a possibility, but I'd expect it to be all over the forums once it flies again and so far nada.
The other possibility is a C-130 - plenty of them in/around Bury-SE - in which case specsavers and a new I-spy book for you too :-)
Cheeky sod ;D I might be an old fart but my eyes ain't that bad. If i can't tell the difference between a Lanc and a Herc i'd better shoot myself. Oh, i might miss though. :D Was going to phone the IWM at Duxford, but not at 60 odd pence a minute plus a connection fee. >:(
Well, the Lanc was still at Duxford on Saturday evening. There were rumours it was going to depart on Sunday, but I don't think that happened.
There is a thread on UKAR about Duxford Movements. If/when it moves, it'll be on there. https://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=86801&start=200
Personally I doubt it's flown (there would be pictures everywhere on the forums), but I'm 150 miles away and I can't quite see from here. If it wasn't the Lanc, then I'm struggling to think of another 4 engined twin tail warbird in the UK. Perhaps Shakeng has something squirreled away in his own Highland Area51 that he's keeping strictly on a need-to-know basis :-)
Has AVRO SHACKLETON WR963 returned to the skies sooner than planned? :o :o ;)
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Thanks .... it'll have been a Chinook then. Obviously it's been a while since I've seen one so close up ::)
I don't know about how other twin rotored helicopters sound, but the Chinook is unmistakable and great! :D :y
We used to have a few flying over here from time to time when the Gurkha's were stationed in Folkestone, but they are a rare sight now. ;)
They didn't call them Wooka wookas for nothing. It was the sound of it that first made us look ....
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I get the "Wooka Wooka bird" and the apache,s flying over here almost nightly since May
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I get the "Wooka Wooka bird" and the apache,s flying over here almost nightly since May
Bringing hundreds of Afghans to sunny Essex. :)
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I get the "Wooka Wooka bird" and the apache,s flying over here almost nightly since May
Yep, fly right over the rooftop at work. Cant hear the bloody telly when they come over. ::) ;D
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I get the "Wooka Wooka bird" and the apache,s flying over here almost nightly since May
Yep, fly right over the rooftop at work. Cant hear the bloody telly when they come over. ::) ;D
Sounds like a complaint is in order.
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Odiham's only about 10 miles from me, so plenty of wooka wooka action here. :D
If they hadn't taken me for a jolly in one a couple of years back I'd complain about the noise. 8)
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Weren't they once considered flying death traps?
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I get the "Wooka Wooka bird" and the apache,s flying over here almost nightly since May
Yep, fly right over the rooftop at work. Cant hear the bloody telly when they come over. ::) ;D
Sounds like a complaint is in order.
Im going to see the union about it. ;D
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Weren't they once considered flying death traps?
Only when flown in terrain in low visibility with no radar or terrain warning systems fitted :-X
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Weren't they once considered flying death traps?
There have been a couple of unfortunate incidents, but on the whole they're liked by crews and by the RAF/MOD upper management. So much so we keep ordering more and more of them in dribs and drabs.
The first incident was the Mull of Kintyre crash which killed a load of senior intelligence officials returning from Northern Ireland. The initial board of inquiry blamed the crew, but many people believe it was a (well known) fault with the engine management computers. Too complicated to go into here, and pages and pages on it over on pprune. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Scotland_RAF_Chinook_crash
The second 'incident' was when some bean counter deleted a load of requirements from the spec (which may have been impossible to meet) for the order of a batch of 8 additional HC3 Chinooks ordered in 1995 for special forces work. The aircraft were delivered in 2001, but deemed 'unsafe' and so sat in the hangars at Boscombe Down for 8 years waiting for someone to work out how to 'fix' them, and how to pay for it. Eventually they were 'upgraded' back to HC2 standard ::). Story under the HC3 bit on Wikipedia : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Chinook_(UK_variants)
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Weren't they once considered flying death traps?
another problem was with the forward gearbox.
Helicopters can normally autorotate, if they lose power, to make a controlled landing. A chinook is reliant on the rotors being synchronised to prevent the blades hitting each other
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_British_International_Helicopters_Chinook_crash (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_British_International_Helicopters_Chinook_crash)
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Following on from last post. Saw a 4 engine WW11 bomber go over Bury St. Eds. at 1.30pm today. I think it was a Lanc. but as it was going away when i saw it, it could have been a Halifax, (if any are still flying). Anyone else seen it or have any info? Now, that WAS interesting. :D
The only 4 engine bombers in Europe are the BBMF's Lancaster, and B-17 Sally B. Both are at Duxford at the moment, and I don't think (though I'm far from sure) either have flown recently. There are no Halifax's or Stirlings flying anywhere in the world - and there are only one or two in museums. The Lanc is down to attend Bournemouth airshow this weekend, but it's been in rework at Duxford for ages so I don't know if it'll be ready. Therefore the Lancaster is a possibility, but I'd expect it to be all over the forums once it flies again and so far nada.
The other possibility is a C-130 - plenty of them in/around Bury-SE - in which case specsavers and a new I-spy book for you too :-)
Cheeky sod ;D I might be an old fart but my eyes ain't that bad. If i can't tell the difference between a Lanc and a Herc i'd better shoot myself. Oh, i might miss though. :D Was going to phone the IWM at Duxford, but not at 60 odd pence a minute plus a connection fee. >:(
Well, the Lanc was still at Duxford on Saturday evening. There were rumours it was going to depart on Sunday, but I don't think that happened.
There is a thread on UKAR about Duxford Movements. If/when it moves, it'll be on there. https://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=86801&start=200
Personally I doubt it's flown (there would be pictures everywhere on the forums), but I'm 150 miles away and I can't quite see from here. If it wasn't the Lanc, then I'm struggling to think of another 4 engined twin tail warbird in the UK. Perhaps Shakeng has something squirreled away in his own Highland Area51 that he's keeping strictly on a need-to-know basis :-)
I wish, there is still hope however: https://www.avroshackleton.co.uk/ , well worth a visit to hear the mighty Griffons roar once more on the 25th Sept. :y
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I get the "Wooka Wooka bird" and the apache,s flying over here almost nightly since May
Yep, fly right over the rooftop at work. Cant hear the bloody telly when they come over. ::) ;D
Hmm.....can't hear the telly at WORK. ;D ;D
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Playing over Glasgow today -
https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-baffled-sight-sound-two-21446126
Preparing for the Scottish Referendum :D
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Around Hoof'land, it's a permanent airshow, If it's not BBMF buzzing Wyton, then it's the Yanks, Ospreys, C130, F35 then we get Chinnocks, Black Hawks etc.
Something to do with the Squirrel section at RAF Wyton I've been told.
Was quite this weekend just a couple of spitfires, Last week was Red Arrows and a fly past. 8)
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An oldie but worth another look :)
https://youtu.be/1qmsC3cPNXQ (https://youtu.be/1qmsC3cPNXQ)
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Wasn't it the Shackleton that was described as something like 10,000 rivets flying in loose formation??
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Wasn't it the Shackleton that was described as something like 10,000 rivets flying in loose formation??
Certainly it was amongst other less complimentary descriptions. Having graduated from ground crew to aircrew I only completed two tours on Shacks but still retain a ridiculously perverse affection for the old grey lady, despite losing many colleagues and several friends in accidents.