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« on: 28 April 2021, 22:29:47 »

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/article-9512583/New-Renault-Dacia-models-speeds-limited-112mph.html

The decision by Volvo - and now Renault - comes as new rules, provisionally agreed by the EU in 2019, could see Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA) systems become mandatory for all vehicles sold in Europe from next year.

The Department for Transport say that the UK will also make the same requirements of new models, despite Brexit. 
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« Reply #1 on: 28 April 2021, 23:16:12 »

Just wait until they try and impose it on Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc. etc.  ::)
Renaults shouldnt be allowed to go anywhere near 112mph anyway, as they fall apart stood still.  ;D
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« Reply #2 on: 28 April 2021, 23:20:33 »

JDM cars have had similar fitted for decades.
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« Reply #3 on: 29 April 2021, 06:42:32 »

JDM cars have had similar fitted for decades.
Can't have done, traffic sign recognition wasn't around then.
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« Reply #4 on: 29 April 2021, 07:11:10 »

There'll be no more police interceptors on telly. 112mph will see baddies easily caught on motorways and, once the getaway cars electronics start recognising 30mph speed signs, the game's up.  ;D
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« Reply #5 on: 29 April 2021, 08:20:54 »

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/article-9512583/New-Renault-Dacia-models-speeds-limited-112mph.html

The decision by Volvo - and now Renault - comes as new rules, provisionally agreed by the EU in 2019, could see Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA) systems become mandatory for all vehicles sold in Europe from next year.......

There'll be loads of Dacia owners out there scratching their heads and thinking 'my Dacia didn't  reach 112mph anyway', so it won't need restricting.   ::)
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« Reply #6 on: 29 April 2021, 08:31:21 »

The adaptive speed limiter legislation is not yet fully ratified, in simple terms, the current proposal is one that defaults on but can be turned off at every ignition cycle (many cars already have them but they default off or to the last known setting)   :y

The internal info on Renault is that its a bit of a cost save approach to, legally you must fit tyres rated to the cars top speed, limit the speed, fit lower rated tyres, save money.....
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« Reply #7 on: 29 April 2021, 08:40:26 »

There'll be no more police interceptors on telly. 112mph will see baddies easily caught on motorways and, once the getaway cars electronics start recognising 30mph speed signs, the game's up.  ;D

There will be no need for camera vans, hidden cameras in horse boxes etc. and no more NIP's through the post. I couldn't have been speeding officer, my car won't let me. They won't like that will they.  ;D
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« Reply #8 on: 29 April 2021, 08:48:49 »

The adaptive speed limiter legislation is not yet fully ratified, in simple terms, the current proposal is one that defaults on but can be turned off at every ignition cycle (many cars already have them but they default off or to the last known setting)   :y

The internal info on Renault is that its a bit of a cost save approach to, legally you must fit tyres rated to the cars top speed, limit the speed, fit lower rated tyres, save money.....

Yep, and I assume why the traditional spare wheel is gradually disappearing. Reduced weight, reduced emissions and reduced costs.
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« Reply #9 on: 29 April 2021, 09:26:19 »

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Renault announce that all of their cars have had speed limited devices for decades and that device is the engine.

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« Reply #10 on: 29 April 2021, 09:27:50 »

Yep, and I assume why the traditional spare wheel is gradually disappearing. Reduced weight, reduced emissions and reduced costs.

No need to assume. A spare wheel adds 1-2g of co2 per km, hence why you rarely get them now. Of course they could save a lot more by not adding a load of useless crap, but then it wouldn't be the car industry.
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Re: Oh dear
« Reply #11 on: 29 April 2021, 09:31:29 »

The adaptive speed limiter legislation is not yet fully ratified, in simple terms, the current proposal is one that defaults on but can be turned off at every ignition cycle (many cars already have them but they default off or to the last known setting)   :y

The internal info on Renault is that its a bit of a cost save approach to, legally you must fit tyres rated to the cars top speed, limit the speed, fit lower rated tyres, save money.....

Yep, and I assume why the traditional spare wheel is gradually disappearing. Reduced weight, reduced emissions and reduced costs.


Another factor is that even small cars now have large diameter wheels, and there simply isn't space to fit something that needs a hole 700mm across by 250mm deep.
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Re: Oh dear
« Reply #12 on: 29 April 2021, 09:38:14 »

JDM cars have had similar fitted for decades.
Can't have done, traffic sign recognition wasn't around then.
Maybe not but they have been speed limited for decades

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_domestic_market :-X
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« Reply #13 on: 29 April 2021, 09:52:37 »

The adaptive speed limiter legislation is not yet fully ratified, in simple terms, the current proposal is one that defaults on but can be turned off at every ignition cycle (many cars already have them but they default off or to the last known setting)   :y

The internal info on Renault is that its a bit of a cost save approach to, legally you must fit tyres rated to the cars top speed, limit the speed, fit lower rated tyres, save money.....

Yep, and I assume why the traditional spare wheel is gradually disappearing. Reduced weight, reduced emissions and reduced costs.


Another factor is that even small cars now have large diameter wheels, and there simply isn't space to fit something that needs a hole 700mm across by 250mm deep.

Actually, the major factor these days is that only about 2% of car drivers can actually change a wheel, rendering it bloody useless in most cases  :y
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Re: Oh dear
« Reply #14 on: 29 April 2021, 10:05:44 »

The show me/tell me part of the driving test is really effective then.
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