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Good enough for our army but......
« on: 04 June 2021, 10:53:16 »

Napier Barracks: Asylum seekers win legal challenge over ‘squalid’ accommodation
Six asylum seekers who brought a legal case against the Home Office for “unsafe” and “squalid” conditions at a former army barracks in Kent have won their High Court case.
The group of men, all said to be “survivors of torture and/or human trafficking”, were formerly housed at Napier Barracks, and argued that conditions at the camp posed “real and immediate risks to life and of ill-treatment”.
On Thursday Mr Justice Linden ruled in the men’s favour and found that the accommodation failed to meet a “minimum standard” and that the Home Office acted unlawfully when deciding the former military camp was appropriate.
He said: “Whether on the basis of the issues of Covid or fire safety taken in isolation, or looking at the cumulative effect of the decision making about, and the conditions in, the barracks, I do not accept that the accommodation there ensured a standard of living which was adequate for the health of the claimants.
“Insofar as the defendant considered that the accommodation was adequate for their needs, that view was irrational.”
During a two-day hearing in April, the men’s lawyers said that accommodating asylum seekers at the “squalid” barracks was a breach of their human rights and could amount to false imprisonment.
Mr Justice Linden added that while “adequacy” was a low standard, Napier Barracks had failed during the time the six asylum seekers were housed there.
The judge referenced Covid-19 spread and overcrowding, a lack of ventilation, as well as the “detention-like” setting for the men, who were not meant to be detained.
He said: “What is at issue here is accommodation in which they were supposed to live voluntarily pending a determination of their applications for asylum.
“When this is considered, a decision that accommodation in a detention-like setting - a site enclosed by a perimeter fence topped with barbed wire, access to which is through padlocked gates guarded by uniformed security personnel - will be adequate for their needs, begins to look questionable.”
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Re: Good enough for our army but......
« Reply #1 on: 04 June 2021, 11:58:20 »

Well, we could shut them in cages like the US do :-X
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« Reply #2 on: 04 June 2021, 12:01:46 »

Didnt Shakespeare have a good idea on what we should do with lawyers ?
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« Reply #3 on: 04 June 2021, 12:10:08 »

Well, we could shut them in cages like the US do :-X
Or send them home.
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« Reply #4 on: 04 June 2021, 12:11:32 »

Or don’t let them in in the first place.
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Re: Good enough for our army but......
« Reply #5 on: 04 June 2021, 12:32:35 »

Shoot the bastards as soon as they arrive , will save thousands of taxpayers money.
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« Reply #6 on: 04 June 2021, 12:58:16 »

Shoot the bastards as soon as they arrive , will save thousands of taxpayers money.
It would also deter them from coming in the first place but apparently that's not very woke.
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« Reply #7 on: 04 June 2021, 21:06:55 »

So they enter our country illegally from a safe country that lets them sleep rough in the woods or a shanty town, and they are put up in warm dry accommodation with three square meals a day, but then apparently because that isn't good enough, the country that they have entered illegally, then spends it's taxpayers money funding a legal case against itself and loses.  :-\

Is that about right?  ???  ::)  ;D
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« Reply #8 on: 04 June 2021, 21:08:16 »

So they enter our country illegally from a safe country that lets them sleep rough in the woods or a shanty town, and they are put up in warm dry accommodation with three square meals a day, but then apparently because that isn't good enough, the country that they have entered illegally, then spends it's taxpayers money funding a legal case against itself and loses.  :-\

Is that about right?  ???  ::)  ;D
That's about the size of it :-X
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Re: Good enough for our army but......
« Reply #9 on: 04 June 2021, 21:10:17 »

So they enter our country illegally from a safe country that lets them sleep rough in the woods or a shanty town, and they are put up in warm dry accommodation with three square meals a day, but then apparently because that isn't good enough, the country that they have entered illegally, then spends it's taxpayers money funding a legal case against itself and loses.  :-\

Is that about right?  ???  ::)  ;D
That's about the size of it :-X
And always will be........until someone puts a stop to it. What's Farage doing these days?  :-\
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Re: Good enough for our army but......
« Reply #10 on: 04 June 2021, 21:14:55 »

So they enter our country illegally from a safe country that lets them sleep rough in the woods or a shanty town, and they are put up in warm dry accommodation with three square meals a day, but then apparently because that isn't good enough, the country that they have entered illegally, then spends it's taxpayers money funding a legal case against itself and loses.  :-\

Is that about right?  ??? ::) ;D
That's about the size of it :-X
And always will be........until someone puts a stop to it. What's Farage doing these days? :-\


Why? Perhaps he could crash a plane into the barracks :)
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« Reply #11 on: 04 June 2021, 21:19:43 »

So they enter our country illegally from a safe country that lets them sleep rough in the woods or a shanty town, and they are put up in warm dry accommodation with three square meals a day, but then apparently because that isn't good enough, the country that they have entered illegally, then spends it's taxpayers money funding a legal case against itself and loses.  :-\

Is that about right?  ??? ::) ;D
That's about the size of it :-X
And always will be........until someone puts a stop to it. What's Farage doing these days? :-\


Why? Perhaps he could crash a plane into the barracks :)
No....he could get the popular vote..like he did last time.  :)
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« Reply #12 on: 04 June 2021, 21:20:32 »

But crashing a plane into the barracks would be a start  :)
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« Reply #13 on: 04 June 2021, 21:22:26 »

So they enter our country illegally from a safe country that lets them sleep rough in the woods or a shanty town, and they are put up in warm dry accommodation with three square meals a day, but then apparently because that isn't good enough, the country that they have entered illegally, then spends it's taxpayers money funding a legal case against itself and loses.  :-\

Is that about right?  ??? ::) ;D
That's about the size of it :-X
And always will be........until someone puts a stop to it. What's Farage doing these days? :-\


Why? Perhaps he could crash a plane into the barracks :)
No....he could get the popular vote. like he did last time.  :)


We'd have to join the EU for him to be re-elected.
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« Reply #14 on: 04 June 2021, 21:24:18 »

So they enter our country illegally from a safe country that lets them sleep rough in the woods or a shanty town, and they are put up in warm dry accommodation with three square meals a day, but then apparently because that isn't good enough, the country that they have entered illegally, then spends it's taxpayers money funding a legal case against itself and loses.  :-\

Is that about right?  ??? ::) ;D
That's about the size of it :-X
And always will be........until someone puts a stop to it. What's Farage doing these days? :-\


Why? Perhaps he could crash a plane into the barracks :)
No....he could get the popular vote. like he did last time.  :)


We'd have to join the EU for him to be re-elected.
Ok....right....so we'll rejoin the EU...Farage can get rid of all the immigrants...... then we leave again. Stop creating problems.
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« Reply #15 on: 04 June 2021, 21:28:03 »

But crashing a plane into the barracks would be a start  :)

No it won't. It's now illegal to house illegal immigrants asylum seekers at Napier Barracks, and despite Priti Useless's rhetoric the government will quietly comply with the ruling.  ::)

I guess it would be kinda fun to crash a plane into an empty barracks though!  ;D
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« Reply #16 on: 04 June 2021, 21:31:43 »

But crashing a plane into the barracks would be a start  :)

No it won't. It's now illegal to house illegal immigrants asylum seekers at Napier Barracks, and despite Priti Useless's rhetoric the government will quietly comply with the ruling.  ::)

I guess it would be kinda fun to crash a plane into an empty barracks though!  ;D
They're still there while the government looks for an alternative shithole.  ;D
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« Reply #17 on: 04 June 2021, 21:33:29 »

But crashing a plane into the barracks would be a start  :)

No it won't. It's now illegal to house illegal immigrants asylum seekers at Napier Barracks, and despite Priti Useless's rhetoric the government will quietly comply with the ruling.  ::)

I guess it would be kinda fun to crash a plane into an empty barracks though!  ;D
They're still there while the government looks for an alternative shithole.  ;D

You reckon?  ???

My bet is that they'll all be quietly shipped out to 5 star hotels!  ::)
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« Reply #18 on: 04 June 2021, 21:46:44 »

But crashing a plane into the barracks would be a start  :)

No it won't. It's now illegal to house illegal immigrants asylum seekers at Napier Barracks, and despite Priti Useless's rhetoric the government will quietly comply with the ruling.  ::)

I guess it would be kinda fun to crash a plane into an empty barracks though!  ;D
They're still there while the government looks for an alternative shithole.  ;D

You reckon?  ???

My bet is that they'll all be quietly shipped out to 5 star hotels!  ::)
Nah...Priti will appeal.....all the way up to the European...........
cancel that.  ;D
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« Reply #19 on: 04 June 2021, 21:47:28 »

Farage done well every time we needed him, pity we didn’t support him when he could help us again. By the way when he did have an air crash he went to casualty got treated and went about his business he didn’t sign on the sick🤓. And if he did crash into the barracks whilst they were there, then he should be awarded the DFM/DFC.👍
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« Reply #20 on: 04 June 2021, 21:53:49 »

Anyway what’s that dogs name now err.....🤭
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« Reply #21 on: 04 June 2021, 21:54:05 »

Farage done well every time we needed him, pity we didn’t support him when he could help us again. By the way when he did have an air crash he went to casualty got treated and went about his business he didn’t sign on the sick🤓. And if he did crash into the barracks whilst they were there, then he should be awarded the DFM/DFC.👍
Tis but a scratch ;D

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« Reply #22 on: 04 June 2021, 21:55:04 »

But crashing a plane into the barracks would be a start  :)

No it won't. It's now illegal to house illegal immigrants asylum seekers at Napier Barracks, and despite Priti Useless's rhetoric the government will quietly comply with the ruling.  ::)

I guess it would be kinda fun to crash a plane into an empty barracks though!  ;D
They're still there while the government looks for an alternative shithole.  ;D

You reckon?  ???

My bet is that they'll all be quietly shipped out to 5 star hotels!  ::)



Think you've hit the nail right on the head , we're so far down the "mustn't offend anyone route" that it can never return to the sensible thing to do.
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« Reply #23 on: 04 June 2021, 21:57:03 »

Farage done well every time we needed him, pity we didn’t support him when he could help us again. By the way when he did have an air crash he went to casualty got treated and went about his business he didn’t sign on the sick🤓. And if he did crash into the barracks whilst they were there, then he should be awarded the DFM/DFC.👍
Tis but a scratch ;D

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« Reply #24 on: 04 June 2021, 22:00:11 »

But crashing a plane into the barracks would be a start  :)

No it won't. It's now illegal to house illegal immigrants asylum seekers at Napier Barracks, and despite Priti Useless's rhetoric the government will quietly comply with the ruling.  ::)

I guess it would be kinda fun to crash a plane into an empty barracks though!  ;D
They're still there while the government looks for an alternative shithole.  ;D

You reckon?  ???

My bet is that they'll all be quietly shipped out to 5 star hotels!  ::)



Think you've hit the nail right on the head , we're so far down the "mustn't offend anyone route" that it can never return to the sensible thing to do.
                  Yes it really seems to be getting worse, got to think before you speak now in public👀👀  just in case some mo/fkr gets offended
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« Reply #26 on: 04 June 2021, 23:36:22 »

Good spotting, so we’re actually helping them to illegally enter the country then in a way☃️
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« Reply #27 on: 05 June 2021, 10:11:30 »

There's stories every day about this invasion, the Lawyers that helped with this claim are known to assist in beating the system, Then there's the Invaders that are wearing £500 trainers, i-,phone12 etc.  O and inspector Clussoue can't even find were they keep buying 20ft ribs and 30+ life jackets from, can't see them being towed to the beach, loaded up,and then launched.
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« Reply #28 on: 05 June 2021, 12:26:08 »

Napier Barracks, previously known as Shorncliffe Camp, where I was born,  and where my father was stationed in the QORWK. It is probably a bit more salubrious nowadays.  ::)
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« Reply #29 on: 05 June 2021, 12:33:18 »

Visitors should "take us as the find us " follow our rules ,be grateful
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« Reply #30 on: 05 June 2021, 13:03:36 »

We could round them up mid channel, microchip/vaccinate them and surreptitiously drop them back to France.
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« Reply #31 on: 05 June 2021, 13:15:40 »

OK.....so the barracks are not as comfortable as the Ritz.

Presumably though the accommodation is free of charge as well as being  warm and dry

The word 'ungrateful' comes to mind.




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« Reply #32 on: 05 June 2021, 13:41:58 »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9653583/Home-Office-launches-probe-Border-Force-entered-French-waters-collect-asylum-seekers.html

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It could be suggested that we were invited in to collect them rather than waiting for them to drown.

Certainly we asked for, and were granted, permission to enter France.

Flip side is that the French could just have easily picked them up, but it could reasonably be argued that thimmigrants weren't in immediate danger, and therefore were free to carry on.

Which begs three questions...

1. Why the French insist on doing nothing to deter these transitory migrations?
2. Why, if thimmigrants aren't immediately in danger, did we pick them up?
3. If they were in immediate danger, did the French not pick them up?
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« Reply #33 on: 05 June 2021, 13:49:14 »

OK.....so the barracks are not as comfortable as the Ritz.

Presumably though the accommodation is free of charge as well as being  warm and dry

The word 'ungrateful' comes to mind.



These parasites are no use to man nor beast ,but we are seen as a soft touch so they will bleed us dry ungrateful bastards .
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« Reply #34 on: 05 June 2021, 15:23:11 »

OK.....so the barracks are not as comfortable as the Ritz.

Presumably though the accommodation is free of charge as well as being  warm and dry

The word 'ungrateful' comes to mind.



These parasites are no use to man nor beast ,but we are seen as a soft touch so they will bleed us dry ungrateful bastards .

If I had genuinely escaped torture and death and made it to the shores of 'Blighty' I would not be complaining that the accommodation was piss poor.

We have people sleeping on the streets, a significant number of which are ex-army, very little is done to help such people. >:(

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« Reply #35 on: 05 June 2021, 16:44:21 »

And they are mostly young men of fighting age
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« Reply #36 on: 05 June 2021, 19:02:52 »

I'm surprised that there aren't vigilantes going out in boats looking for the rubber dinghies to offer them a tow and assistance.....

Straight back to France!  ;D
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« Reply #37 on: 05 June 2021, 19:32:29 »

I'm surprised that there aren't vigilantes going out in boats with big, sharp knives looking for the rubber dinghies to sink them

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« Reply #38 on: 05 June 2021, 19:42:04 »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9653583/Home-Office-launches-probe-Border-Force-entered-French-waters-collect-asylum-seekers.html

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It could be suggested that we were invited in to collect them rather than waiting for them to drown.

Certainly we asked for, and were granted, permission to enter France.

Flip side is that the French could just have easily picked them up, but it could reasonably be argued that thimmigrants weren't in immediate danger, and therefore were free to carry on.

Which begs three questions...

1. Why the French insist on doing nothing to deter these transitory migrations?
2. Why, if thimmigrants aren't immediately in danger, did we pick them up?
3. If they were in immediate danger, did the French not pick them up?
I should imagine that the Frogs can't  wait to get rid of them, hanging around for months in the woods near a channel port.
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Re: Good enough for our army but......
« Reply #39 on: 05 June 2021, 20:29:55 »

There's stories every day about this invasion, the Lawyers that helped with this claim are known to assist in beating the system, Then there's the Invaders that are wearing £500 trainers, i-,phone12 etc.  O and inspector Clouseau can't even find were they keep buying 20ft ribs and 30+ life jackets from, can't see them being towed to the beach, loaded up, and then launched.


The French have big legal and illegal immigration problems of their own. Why would they do much to stop those who are just passing through, especially since we cut ourselves off from EU cooperation
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Re: Good enough for our army but......
« Reply #40 on: 05 June 2021, 21:08:48 »

There's stories every day about this invasion, the Lawyers that helped with this claim are known to assist in beating the system, Then there's the Invaders that are wearing £500 trainers, i-,phone12 etc.  O and inspector Clouseau can't even find were they keep buying 20ft ribs and 30+ life jackets from, can't see them being towed to the beach, loaded up, and then launched.


The French have big legal and illegal immigration problems of their own. Why would they do much to stop those who are just passing through, especially since we cut ourselves off from EU cooperation

I'd say that they have duty to fight organised crime, but that's just me I guess.  ::)
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Re: Good enough for our army but......
« Reply #41 on: 05 June 2021, 21:27:03 »

Why would they need asylum in Britain from France. First place of safety they get to should give it to them.
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Re: Good enough for our army but......
« Reply #42 on: 05 June 2021, 22:39:27 »

Why would they need asylum in Britain from France. First place of safety they get to should give it to them.
Which could have easily have been Egypt/Morocco/Turkey/Uzbekistan...
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Re: Good enough for our army but......
« Reply #43 on: 05 June 2021, 22:57:02 »

There's stories every day about this invasion, the Lawyers that helped with this claim are known to assist in beating the system, Then there's the Invaders that are wearing £500 trainers, i-,phone12 etc.  O and inspector Clouseau can't even find were they keep buying 20ft ribs and 30+ life jackets from, can't see them being towed to the beach, loaded up, and then launched.


The French have big legal and illegal immigration problems of their own. Why would they do much to stop those who are just passing through, especially since we cut ourselves off from EU cooperation

Because they agreed to do so if we paid the millions of pounds per year that they said it would cost them. We are paying them the £millions, but as you would expect of the Frogs, they are doing far call to uphold their end of the bargain.
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Re: Good enough for our army but......
« Reply #44 on: 05 June 2021, 23:01:15 »

Why would they need asylum in Britain from France. First place of safety they get to should give it to them.

Exactly, all the "liberal" lefty, do gooders whose hearts bleed for these poor souls conveniently forget they are coming here from France.
Dont get me wrong, I wouldnt set foot in that shithole, but I cant imagine its so bad, that recent arrivals from countries where they are claimed to be in grave danger, immediately want to risk their lives to get out of France and sail across to England just for the sake of their own safety.  ::)
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Re: Good enough for our army but......
« Reply #45 on: 06 June 2021, 07:22:19 »

There's stories every day about this invasion, the Lawyers that helped with this claim are known to assist in beating the system, Then there's the Invaders that are wearing £500 trainers, i-,phone12 etc.  O and inspector Clouseau can't even find were they keep buying 20ft ribs and 30+ life jackets from, can't see them being towed to the beach, loaded up, and then launched.


The French have big legal and illegal immigration problems of their own. Why would they do much to stop those who are just passing through, especially since we cut ourselves off from EU cooperation
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So no change there then >:(
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