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[dave the builder]

Hopefully pay and working conditions will improve for Lorry drivers when supplies running low impact people .

didn't work for Nurses etc though 

[ronnyd]

Hopefully pay and working conditions will improve for Lorry drivers when supplies running low impact people .

didn't work for Nurses etc though 

Yeah, would need to know up front.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Would have thought DG, you'd have given up aeroplane stuff, and gone chassing the big HGV monies that are about

There's adverts for HGV driver jobs in the Gents at Sedgmore M5 services from a nationwide haulage company. £40-60K tramping.

If it gets to £100k I might consider resurrecting my licence! 

[Viral_Jim]

I know our place was really struggling for anyone half decent paying in the high £30's and that was down in South Wales, so not exactly an expensive part of the country!

[Doctor Gollum]

Would have thought DG, you'd have given up aeroplane stuff, and gone chassing the big HGV monies that are about

There's adverts for HGV driver jobs in the Gents at Sedgmore M5 services from a nationwide haulage company. £40-60K tramping.

If it gets to £100k I might consider resurrecting my licence! 

It's my back up plan, but not yet made redundant so invested in obtaining my Part 66 A licence 

I will renew my medical this year though...

[biggriffin]

Around the Avonmouth area £22ph mon-fri is common and £30+ for weekends, biggest problems is all thro agency, yet the companies won't pay more than £12-£14 direct

[Raeturbo]

Yes it’s unbelievable that companies don’t mind paying much higher wages to agencies rather than their own direct employees, and the fees as well👐.

[Nick W]

Yes it’s unbelievable that companies don’t mind paying much higher wages to agencies rather than their own direct employees, and the fees as well👐.

recruiting, training, managing and keeping employees costs a lot, especially when there is a large turnover. Paying an agency probably isn't much different. It isn't a long-term solution, but who bothers with those anymore?

[LC0112G]

Yes it’s unbelievable that companies don’t mind paying much higher wages to agencies rather than their own direct employees, and the fees as well👐.

It's not. Direct employees incur extra costs on the company - Employers National Insurance (13.8%), (admin of) Employees National Insurance, (admin of) Employees PAYE and Employees Pension contributions (3% minimum) to name a few. All these have to be paid by the company directly to HMRC or the Pension company, which puts a liability on the company. There is also sick pay and holiday pay, plus potentially redundancy pay if you want to terminate some ones employment.

So for a headline salary of say £30K it could easily cost the company another £5-10K to employ someone. If you can farm all that responsibility out to a subcontractor/agency for sub £35-40K then you'll be in profit, and if things go south you can 'sack' the subby/agency with little comeback. If you get a good subby, and business is going well, then you can bring them onto the payroll.

[Raeturbo]

Fair enough that’s another thing to think of.

[STEMO]

Interesting/worrying stat from today's news conference:
"Sir Patrick Vallance says 60% of those admitted to hospital have been fully vaccinated but he stresses this is "not surprising" as most people have now been vaccinated".

[STEMO]

And another one:

"Vallance points out that deaths are increasing and we will see an increase over the next few weeks, with daily deaths moving into the hundreds".

Dear me.

[Rangie]

And another one:

"Vallance points out that deaths are increasing and we will see an increase over the next few weeks, with daily deaths moving into the hundreds".

Dear me.

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Quite honestly I'm not surprised, another lockdown will probably be on the cards in a few weeks, so many idiots around, it beggars belief.

[Kevin Wood]

Meanwhile they were interviewing those who had spent the night clubbing along with thousands of others on the radio this morning.

Hmm. Maybe TheBoy's much needed cull of the stupid is actually starting...

[Doctor Gollum]

And another one:

"Vallance points out that deaths are increasing and we will see an increase over the next few weeks, with daily deaths moving into the hundreds".

Dear me.

This isn't a surprise in any way, shale or form. Nor was it going to be.

So why, pray tell, do people seem surprised?

Either accept it as a consequence or take steps to prevent it, but whichever course is chosen be honest about it rather than pretending that everything is fine.