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[Lizzie Zoom]

Just spotted this online:

https://getecodriver.com/article/uk?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2emAseOn9wIVDbtRCh1dkABxEAEYASAAEgKN-PD_BwE

Is it too good to be true??

Love to know the truth as this could be an answer to a lot of motorists fuel crisis.

[dave the builder]

  you're 3 weeks late for "April fools day" Lizzie 

[Lizzie Zoom]

you're 3 weeks late for "April fools day" Lizzie 

Oh dear!   

I was almost taken in!

The web page and prices, with reviews, do seem very convincing

[dave the builder]

you're 3 weeks late for "April fools day" Lizzie 

Oh dear!   

I was almost taken in!

The web page and prices, with reviews, do seem very convincing

Something has gone wrong with the interweb Lizzie ,not everything you read on it is true anymore 

PM me your bank details and i'll sell you some of these clicky, save  money on your electric bill 

[STEMO]

It’s meant to fool old people like you, Lizzie. Us young’uns are not so easily taken in.

[Lizzie Zoom]

you're 3 weeks late for "April fools day" Lizzie 

Oh dear!   

I was almost taken in!

The web page and prices, with reviews, do seem very convincing

Something has gone wrong with the interweb Lizzie ,not everything you read on it is true anymore 

PM me your bank details and i'll sell you some of these clicky, save  money on your electric bill 

  I am always suspicious of anything that seems to good to be true, and sure enough the reactions I am getting from you Dave, and now Steve gives me the answer I thought it would be.

Also done some quick research and found this telling video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XgXwfBTKLGU

Says it all 

[Lizzie Zoom]

It’s meant to fool old people like you, Lizzie. Us young’uns are not so easily taken in.

Yeah, yeah. You are as old as me and we both remember The Beatles performing live

Joking aside, I think the young are more gullible than people think, given what they post and believe in on the social media sites.

[dave the builder]

What's "the Beatles"    is it some sort of 1950's flea circus act from the old days

[Lizzie Zoom]

What's "the Beatles"    is it some sort of 1950's flea circus act from the old days

Ah, so you are considerably older than Steve and me as you remember 1950

[dave the builder]

What's "the Beatles"    is it some sort of 1950's flea circus act from the old days

Ah, so you are considerably older than Steve and me as you remember 1950

No Lizzie , it was on BBC4 late one night 
BUT ....
this is the internet , so I could be a 21 year old Nigerian princess posting from a smart phone in Bognor Regis   

[Lizzie Zoom]

What's "the Beatles"    is it some sort of 1950's flea circus act from the old days

Ah, so you are considerably older than Steve and me as you remember 1950

No Lizzie , it was on BBC4 late one night 
BUT ....
this is the internet , so I could be a 21 year old Nigerian princess posting from a smart phone in Bognor Regis   

No, that is unbelievable……….but, you could be a Prince of India calling with an automated voice  about an Amazon payment for £7.99…….now that is believable…….NOT

[ronnyd]

What's "the Beatles"    is it some sort of 1950's flea circus act from the old days

Ah, so you are considerably older than Steve and me as you remember 1950

No Lizzie , it was on BBC4 late one night 
BUT ....
this is the internet , so I could be a 21 year old Nigerian princess posting from a smart phone in Bognor Regis   

No, that is unbelievable……….but, you could be a Prince of India calling with an automated voice  about an Amazon payment for £7.99…….now that is believable…….NOT

Been watching BBC1 at 10 in the morning Lizzie? 

[Sir Tigger KC]

If anyone's tempted to give it a go, you can buy one here at a fraction of the price! 

Delivery not available to a certain address in Brackley.  Obviously. 

[Lizzie Zoom]

What's "the Beatles"    is it some sort of 1950's flea circus act from the old days

Ah, so you are considerably older than Steve and me as you remember 1950

No Lizzie , it was on BBC4 late one night 
BUT ....
this is the internet , so I could be a 21 year old Nigerian princess posting from a smart phone in Bognor Regis   

No, that is unbelievable……….but, you could be a Prince of India calling with an automated voice  about an Amazon payment for £7.99…….now that is believable…….NOT

Been watching BBC1 at 10 in the morning Lizzie? 

Oh yes, every episode as I have been ‘interested’ in scams for some years now, and have received many attempts to part me from my money. 

The Amazon scam is the phone call that I have had a quiet few times and obviously is the ‘hot one’ currently. Sometimes I play along to speak to a live ‘advisor’, and get the chance to vent my four letter word filled rant about them being scammers, which gives me a laugh and, maybe, keeps them for a time away from scamming a very vulnerable person.  Once I mentioned I was a Kent Police advisor, which resulted in the rather amusing attempt by them to convince me they were not scammers, with more than one phone call back to me by a fool with (as is often usual) a full Indian accent!   

I intercepted a cold scam call to my daughter just last week to persuade her to take out a life insurance policy and replace her existing Scottish Widows one.  Over a good 15 minutes, they tried to get all her personal information from her, made friendly conversation whilst quoting all kinds of financial gains, then (the classic) the operator passed her on to a specialist colleague in “another department” (yeah, really ? In other words the Indian bloke sitting next to him  ) to explain the details of the policy. 

This is when I intervened, asked if they could send my daughter paperwork confirming all the financial facts, but he said no as it all had to be agreed that day on the phone (!!).  At this point I told them she would not be continuing the conversation, told them they were scammers, and cut the call.

Why the authorities cannot clamp down on these scams, especially those originating in India and Africa, I do not know. A screening of telephone calls from these countries alone could stop millions of pounds being scammed.  Perhaps it is far more complicated than I think to do so, but something must be done to stop these awful crimes

[countrywoman]

Mum keeps getting scam calls even though she has blocked numbers , Amazon, internet and ones saying pay your bill now . She is 86 , has no internet and whats Amazon!!!! Good job she still has all her marbles.

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

Why the authorities cannot clamp down on these scams, especially those originating in India and Africa, I do not know. A screening of telephone calls from these countries alone could stop millions of pounds being scammed.  Perhaps it is far more complicated than I think to do so, but something must be done to stop these awful crimes

Unfortunately the scammers are far, far ahead of the game. If I'm looking into someone using a FB or Insta profile to extort money* out of someone, whether it's a romance scam or blatant theft, as soon as the information leads back to another continent it effectively goes cold. It's hard enough to prove someone using an account in the UK is the person who owns or is found with the phone...

I'm absolutely with you that something needs to be done at a more local level, but I haven't the knowledge about the technical side to see how you'd stop the scammers without filtering the companies that have a genuine overseas call centre.

I've sat for hours with people trying to make them see that the person on the other end of the messages asking for money are not in love, they're just in it for the gain. Even after them saying "I suppose it was a bit strange, yes, it probably is a scam"... I've gone back a week later and found them talking again "just in case" it's genuine. Heartbreaking how people will put their faith into empty words from a supposedly kind stranger.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Why the authorities cannot clamp down on these scams, especially those originating in India and Africa, I do not know. A screening of telephone calls from these countries alone could stop millions of pounds being scammed.  Perhaps it is far more complicated than I think to do so, but something must be done to stop these awful crimes

Unfortunately the scammers are far, far ahead of the game. If I'm looking into someone using a FB or Insta profile to extort money* out of someone, whether it's a romance scam or blatant theft, as soon as the information leads back to another continent it effectively goes cold. It's hard enough to prove someone using an account in the UK is the person who owns or is found with the phone...

I'm absolutely with you that something needs to be done at a more local level, but I haven't the knowledge about the technical side to see how you'd stop the scammers without filtering the companies that have a genuine overseas call centre.

I've sat for hours with people trying to make them see that the person on the other end of the messages asking for money are not in love, they're just in it for the gain. Even after them saying "I suppose it was a bit strange, yes, it probably is a scam"... I've gone back a week later and found them talking again "just in case" it's genuine. Heartbreaking how people will put their faith into empty words from a supposedly kind stranger.

Yes, when I see what I see and hear, and get knowledge of how people have been scammed, I do wonder why it is that so many are gullible and believe that stranger on the phone / internet who tells them lies, getting them to divulge very personal information that they would not do to in a face to face situation. Of course, thank goodness not everyone that’s for sure is taken in, but it is that 1% that do is all the scammers need.

The police I know have not got the resources to shut down all the rouge call centres, but they do have some success in getting especially the Indian authorities to take local action, with some centres being closed down.  But I know that for everyone closed down, another 2,3 or more come “on line”.

I wish I had the IT expertise that some do to hack into these call centres and cause havoc.  If I was in charge I would pay large to hire these specialists to hit the scammers hard.

[Doctor Gollum]

Turning the Interwebs off is about the only way to stop it.

Obviously that's not going to happen 

[TheBoy]

Whilst we have gullible* people, there will be scammers.


*And everybody is gullible to some extent. Especially those who refuse to accept they are - they are generally the easiest targets.

[TheBoy]

Turning the Interwebs off is about the only way to stop it.

Obviously that's not going to happen 

That would only obviously stop the email/website scams.  Wouldn't help with phone scams, or door to door

[Doctor Gollum]

Turning the Interwebs off is about the only way to stop it.

Obviously that's not going to happen 

That would only obviously stop the email/website scams.  Wouldn't help with phone scams, or door to door

True but it will complicate things for the Indians and Nigerians

[TheBoy]

Turning the Interwebs off is about the only way to stop it.

Obviously that's not going to happen 

That would only obviously stop the email/website scams.  Wouldn't help with phone scams, or door to door

True but it will complicate things for the Indians and Nigerians

Doubt it, as they spend most of their time on the phone to me, pretending to be Microsoft....