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[dave the builder]

Don't have "keyless entry" on any of our astra Hs
the ordinary remote fobs do require being programmed in various modules, IN THE CORRECT ORDER though and IIRC used fobs can't be reprogrammed .
I don't have  Tech 2 or  CANdi  but manage accessing all modules etc with Chinese hardware/software   

[STEMO]

Don't have "keyless entry" on any of our astra Hs
the ordinary remote fobs do require being programmed in various modules, IN THE CORRECT ORDER though and IIRC used fobs can't be reprogrammed .
I don't have  Tech 2 or  CANdi  but manage accessing all modules etc with Chinese hardware/software 

Fat lot of good you are 

[TheBoy]

Spent a couple of hours trying to ascertain why an Astra-H with keyless entry won't attempt to start, unsuccessfully.

Cheap cloned Chinese digs tat wasn't being very helpful at all, and for proper diags for an Astra-H you need a Tech 2 and a CANdi, neither of which I currently have

I know Gixer has the Tech2, CANdi still to be tracked down!

Have you tried the key...

Stupidly, there doesn't appear to be a procedure for if the car cannot pick up the transponder, and no physical key override for the ignition (only for the doors, which is plastic, and probably stands no chance in a 12 year old lock that has never been moved - we know how much force is sometimes needed on Omegas!).

My car, for example, has a place you can hold the key to start it, so it can still pick up the transponder chip, even if the key is failing.  The Astra manual suggests holding near wher ethe ignition switch would be, but there is nothing behind it, so thats just a bit silly.

[TheBoy]

Don't have "keyless entry" on any of our astra Hs
the ordinary remote fobs do require being programmed in various modules, IN THE CORRECT ORDER though and IIRC used fobs can't be reprogrammed .
I don't have  Tech 2 or  CANdi  but manage accessing all modules etc with Chinese hardware/software 

Its the immobiliser thats not working, the remote fob is all good, as is the keyless entry.

My ching-chong-chinaland cheap Opel diags shite is not completely reading all live data in the immobiliser, particularly the 2nd bunch of readings, which is where the key info is.  Hence I need to retrieve both my Tech2 and our CANdi lead, as currently not sure if its the diags gear, or the immobiliser thats not working right.

Additionally, the piece of shite that cannot be named here is refusing to talk to some of the ECUs that it thinks should exist after reading the CIM, again not sure if its the diags or one of the CAN buses thats not right.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Did you try holding the key close to the ignition as the H has the CIM in this location

[ronnyd]

Don't have "keyless entry" on any of our astra Hs
the ordinary remote fobs do require being programmed in various modules, IN THE CORRECT ORDER though and IIRC used fobs can't be reprogrammed .
I don't have  Tech 2 or  CANdi  but manage accessing all modules etc with Chinese hardware/software 

Its the immobiliser thats not working, the remote fob is all good, as is the keyless entry.

My ching-chong-chinaland cheap Opel diags shite is not completely reading all live data in the immobiliser, particularly the 2nd bunch of readings, which is where the key info is.  Hence I need to retrieve both my Tech2 and our CANdi lead, as currently not sure if its the diags gear, or the immobiliser thats not working right.

Additionally, the piece of shite that cannot be named here is refusing to talk to some of the ECUs that it thinks should exist after reading the CIM, again not sure if its the diags or one of the CAN buses thats not right.

Can i ask why? 

[STEMO]

Don't have "keyless entry" on any of our astra Hs
the ordinary remote fobs do require being programmed in various modules, IN THE CORRECT ORDER though and IIRC used fobs can't be reprogrammed .
I don't have  Tech 2 or  CANdi  but manage accessing all modules etc with Chinese hardware/software 

Its the immobiliser thats not working, the remote fob is all good, as is the keyless entry.

My ching-chong-chinaland cheap Opel diags shite is not completely reading all live data in the immobiliser, particularly the 2nd bunch of readings, which is where the key info is.  Hence I need to retrieve both my Tech2 and our CANdi lead, as currently not sure if its the diags gear, or the immobiliser thats not working right.

Additionally, the piece of shite that cannot be named here is refusing to talk to some of the ECUs that it thinks should exist after reading the CIM, again not sure if its the diags or one of the CAN buses thats not right.

Can i ask why? 

No.

[TheBoy]

Did you try holding the key close to the ignition as the H has the CIM in this location

I tried in the position suggested in the manual (ie, where the ignition switch would normally be) and dismantled the cowling and tried on the CIM - or at least what I thought is the CIM, where the stalks clip into.

TIS implies the immobiliser antennas are in the roof and in the base of the B posts...   ...unless that is for the keyless entry?

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Don't have "keyless entry" on any of our astra Hs
the ordinary remote fobs do require being programmed in various modules, IN THE CORRECT ORDER though and IIRC used fobs can't be reprogrammed .
I don't have  Tech 2 or  CANdi  but manage accessing all modules etc with Chinese hardware/software 

Its the immobiliser thats not working, the remote fob is all good, as is the keyless entry.

My ching-chong-chinaland cheap Opel diags shite is not completely reading all live data in the immobiliser, particularly the 2nd bunch of readings, which is where the key info is.  Hence I need to retrieve both my Tech2 and our CANdi lead, as currently not sure if its the diags gear, or the immobiliser thats not working right.

Additionally, the piece of shite that cannot be named here is refusing to talk to some of the ECUs that it thinks should exist after reading the CIM, again not sure if its the diags or one of the CAN buses thats not right.

Can i ask why? 

Its an illegal copy.

[ronnyd]

Don't have "keyless entry" on any of our astra Hs
the ordinary remote fobs do require being programmed in various modules, IN THE CORRECT ORDER though and IIRC used fobs can't be reprogrammed .
I don't have  Tech 2 or  CANdi  but manage accessing all modules etc with Chinese hardware/software 

Its the immobiliser thats not working, the remote fob is all good, as is the keyless entry.

My ching-chong-chinaland cheap Opel diags shite is not completely reading all live data in the immobiliser, particularly the 2nd bunch of readings, which is where the key info is.  Hence I need to retrieve both my Tech2 and our CANdi lead, as currently not sure if its the diags gear, or the immobiliser thats not working right.

Additionally, the piece of shite that cannot be named here is refusing to talk to some of the ECUs that it thinks should exist after reading the CIM, again not sure if its the diags or one of the CAN buses thats not right.

Can i ask why? 

Its an illegal copy.

Thanks Froggie, seen it mentioned a few times but never knew why.    STEMO, 

[Doctor Gollum]

Managed to find somewhere that actually had petrol.

I believe £1.53 a litre is quite possibly the most I have ever paid

To be fair to the garage, they were limiting everyone to £44... So I left with more fuel than someone buying diesel... Every cloud

[STEMO]

Managed to find somewhere that actually had petrol.

I believe £1.53 a litre is quite possibly the most I have ever paid

To be fair to the garage, they were limiting everyone to £44... So I left with more fuel than someone buying diesel... Every cloud

But the person buying diesel will still get further than you. £44 of diesel will get me over 300 miles, and mine is not the most economical.

[Doctor Gollum]

Managed to find somewhere that actually had petrol.

I believe £1.53 a litre is quite possibly the most I have ever paid

To be fair to the garage, they were limiting everyone to £44... So I left with more fuel than someone buying diesel... Every cloud

But the person buying diesel will still get further than you. £44 of diesel will get me over 300 miles, and mine is not the most economical.

Rain on my parade why don't you...

 

[dave the builder]

Diesel can also be stored relatively safely compared to the idiots filling up ANY container they can find with petrol   

Also, if people have a full tank of fuel and only do 10 miles a week ,it won't do the car any good, E10 degrading ,causing blocked injectors etc , poor emissions  cars 50 kg heavier (weight of extra fuel) using more fuel , not good news for the climate protesters 

I only ever put about 75 litres in my Omega 

also also , more fuel on board means more could leak in an accident.

[Andy H]

Spent a couple of hours trying to ascertain why an Astra-H with keyless entry won't attempt to start, unsuccessfully.

Cheap cloned Chinese digs tat wasn't being very helpful at all, and for proper diags for an Astra-H you need a Tech 2 and a CANdi, neither of which I currently have

I know Gixer has the Tech2, CANdi still to be tracked down!

Have you tried the key...

Stupidly, there doesn't appear to be a procedure for if the car cannot pick up the transponder, and no physical key override for the ignition (only for the doors, which is plastic, and probably stands no chance in a 12 year old lock that has never been moved - we know how much force is sometimes needed on Omegas!).

My car, for example, has a place you can hold the key to start it, so it can still pick up the transponder chip, even if the key is failing.  The Astra manual suggests holding near wher ethe ignition switch would be, but there is nothing behind it, so thats just a bit silly.

Like any religion - you have believe without question otherwise you won't be saved ?