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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #15 on: 21 June 2017, 16:38:06 »

mine say 800kg 215/65R15 max 49 psi on rear told they people carrier tyres. but stick to the road well.
Wrong size surely  :-\
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #16 on: 21 June 2017, 16:53:58 »

Chazza you have a 2.0?

X20XE = 195/65 R 15
X20SE = 205/65 R 15

215/65 not officially the right tyre size, ones you have are a tad wide.
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #17 on: 21 June 2017, 17:11:03 »

It would seem irrational to fail a car at MOT just because its tyres are not 140mph rated when the national speed limit is 70mph.
As said, don't believe its checked at MOT.

However, the engineers who specified this have gone to great lengths, as its not just as simple as "its a 115mph car, so T rating will do".  Check many sub 118mph cars, you will find they are specified with H or even V rated tyres - my 115mph Rover 25 actually specified V rated, even though it stood no chance of even getting to limits of T rated, let alone H, on pure speed alone.

Again, back to the Rover 25, when I wrote it off, the tyres were checked by the assessor (or in this case I think it was actually the salvage place, as no doubt it was a write-off) for tread depth, tyre size, speed and load ratings, amongst may other things...  ...admittedly, this was a few days before one of the other driver's insurance finally agreed full fault, so my insurance were probably going through the motions of getting out of paying ;D.  Given the questions I was asked, and some of the documents I had to provide, I now make sure I'm sqeaky clean on declaring any mods to insurance companies.


When the assessor came round to assess the bike after it was destroyed in the garage explosion, he showed me what he had to fill out (along with a comment along the lines of "how the hell I'm I going to do this" - there was next to nothing left of the bike, I'd pulled out the front forks, then chain sprockets, the crankshaft and the petrol tank, which was about all that remained), and that had pre-printed on it the tyre sizes (amongst other stuff like Alarm: No etc). Don't recall if that had speed ratings etc on the form though.


But fact remains, the manufacturers spec it for a reason, and if you decide not to obey, you do need to inform your insurance.  The V rated tyres on the Rover 25 were a couple of quid more expensive than the H rated ones of same size, but ultimately I'm glad I always paid the little bit extra, as I'm utterly convinced my insurance company would have used that to not pay out.
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #18 on: 21 June 2017, 17:33:08 »

might be wrong size but fit and work well, according to receipts size has been put on since sep 1999. they only on the back 195 on front. give some good grip in bad weather. according to the wheel chart its the max size. and been change twice. last recite was jan last year before i had the car. goes round corners great. 
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #19 on: 21 June 2017, 19:04:15 »

Yes just about the first [if not the absolute first]thing insurance assessors check for in the event of an accident/claim are the tyres,and if they can wriggle out of paying they most certainly will do.
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #20 on: 21 June 2017, 19:34:46 »

i just rang my insurance as they 24hrs, and they said that my tyres are fine, the check is just to see that there is tyre tread and uneven wear on the tyres, if the braking system works on the mot and the tyres are fit for road then the tyres are fine. tracking is the main problem and that has to be checked as it does not come under the mot. tracking that is out can change the out come of an accident and this has to be taken to account. its the owner/drivers responsibility to have the tracking checked. also said my vehicle has not been in an accident or made a claim on my reg number. so i dont know could it just be some other companies ?
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #21 on: 21 June 2017, 19:58:05 »

Insurance can say what they like, but the size fitted is not factory spec.  :)
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #22 on: 21 June 2017, 20:56:42 »

i just rang my insurance as they 24hrs, and they said that my tyres are fine, the check is just to see that there is tyre tread and uneven wear on the tyres, if the braking system works on the mot and the tyres are fit for road then the tyres are fine. tracking is the main problem and that has to be checked as it does not come under the mot. tracking that is out can change the out come of an accident and this has to be taken to account. its the owner/drivers responsibility to have the tracking checked. also said my vehicle has not been in an accident or made a claim on my reg number. so i dont know could it just be some other companies ?
Get that in writing, unless you have official declared it, and its on your policy schedule, else its an easy get-out clause for them :y
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #23 on: 21 June 2017, 21:38:36 »

ive been looking in the receipts and it has a speedometer check sep 1999 as well speedo is reading 30mph actual speed is 28 mph and checked at 70 mph 68 mph. says dvla payment £34.99. so does that mean its been checked ? I have loads of receipts and garage bills clutch changed in 2011 some cannot read as faded, sensors replaced timing belt, ( did that two weeks back) but was replaced in 2012. oil changes, manifold/cat etc not seeing head gasket, water pump that has 4 of them. dont think they all here but most things are. bushes drop links rubbers on and on. really looked after the vehicle. they all start from 1999 so think he must of bought it then.       
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #24 on: 21 June 2017, 21:56:16 »

 ...... and a Cadillac Catera has lower speed rated tyres than an Omega. Michelin say it's because America generally drive a slower speeds. Same(ish) cars two different speed ratings.
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #25 on: 21 June 2017, 22:34:30 »

...... and a Cadillac Catera has lower speed rated tyres than an Omega. Michelin say it's because America generally drive a slower speeds. Same(ish) cars two different speed ratings.


And totally different laws.
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #26 on: 21 June 2017, 22:41:16 »

....l


And totally different laws.

Irrelevant really.

The cars are the same
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #27 on: 21 June 2017, 22:46:38 »

....l


And totally different laws.

Irrelevant really.

The cars are the same
Actually they aren't quite ::)
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #28 on: 21 June 2017, 22:48:43 »

....l


And totally different laws.

Irrelevant really.

The cars are the same
Actually they aren't quite ::)
:P  :P :P different badges .....
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Re: Tyre load rating
« Reply #29 on: 21 June 2017, 23:03:03 »

There are slight structural differences, and actually the Catera is heavier.

Point is there are 50 states in the US and they all have varying ideas on all sorts of things. Here, in the UK, where the Ops car is, has very clear regulations wrt tyre fitment.

No point trying to argue anything different  ;)
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