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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #270 on: 28 August 2015, 20:12:33 »

DBG, you're an absolute star.

Will stalk contact him immediately  :y
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #271 on: 28 August 2015, 20:27:26 »

0-60 is a bit old fashioned these days, normally 0-100kph is quoted, hence we get 0-62. Just out of curiosity, what are the Omega times for this, so we can compare to newer vehicles official figures? ???
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #272 on: 28 August 2015, 20:42:22 »

0-60 is a bit old fashioned these days, normally 0-100kph is quoted, hence we get 0-62. Just out of curiosity, what are the Omega times for this, so we can compare to newer vehicles official figures? ???

Yeah it is. 0-100kph or 0-62mph is the usual standard. but in omega terms it's imperial all the way  ;D

if you search parkers vx omega and go to ''facts and figures'' youll see all the model variants.

then do the same with the modern vehicle you want to look at  :y
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #273 on: 28 August 2015, 21:02:01 »

Ian Coomber of the VBOA may be able to give you some info. He was 2nd in command at Luton for donkeys years, passionate about Vauxhalls (owns a 1930s T-Type himself) and a nice chap to boot. He's the guy who stands in the centre of the ring with microphone at Billing giving a pocket history of every car that comes in to take a turn. Often with an interesting anecdote.

Keith B or someone else similarly high-up in ABS or contacting the VBOA direct will help you get in contact with him.

I apologise in advance to Mr Coomber for being pestered by Webby  :D
Could try Andrew durden, was Russell Brookes co driver, and a few other GM drivers, GM man thro, think works at heritage centre now, nice bloke too. :y
But are either of them ready to be stalked by THE BEAR.
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #274 on: 28 August 2015, 21:15:42 »

 ;D

Thanks BG. I'll see= what I get from VBOA first and then do some more stalking if necessary  ;D
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #275 on: 29 August 2015, 21:34:27 »

Well, I've had a response from Ian and it's perfect...

Stephen

The Omega is dear to my heart as it was the first Vauxhall I was responsible for launching in the UK as newly promoted Executive Director of Sales and Marketing. In those Manufacturing led days, the fact that all the launch cars were that peculiar aubergine colour rather took the shine of it however!

I have no personal knowledge of how the cars were tested. However, I can confirm that no performance testing was carried out in the UK. We took all our catalogue data from Opel who would have established the data at the Dudenhofen Proving Ground. And of course, the benchmeark would not have been 0-60 mph but 0 to 100 kph (62 mph). I am guessing, but I would be sure that the figures were obtained on an external test track with just the driver on board and low fuelling. I would also guess that the spare wheel would be on board as it was part of the standard equipment like the ICE etc. However, if a space saver was listed as an option that would be selected as a lower weight item.

I'm sorry this isn't more helpful.

Kind regards

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...were they all aubergine?  :-\ ;D

So. 1 driver, low fuel, spare included (I never took it out!). This means that the timing for my car (when I take out my extra love handles) is bang on around the 9.2 second mark.

Obviously ian mentions that it would have been done as 0-100kph but the figures we've got are 0-60 and all I wanted to do was check testing conditions.

So. confirmation that my old banger does exactly what its meant to! nothing more, nothing less :y :y :y :y :y

now..... off to look in to super chips remaps  ::) ;D

 
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #276 on: 29 August 2015, 21:47:18 »

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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #277 on: 29 August 2015, 22:07:16 »

Well, I've had a response from Ian and it's perfect...

Stephen

The Omega is dear to my heart as it was the first Vauxhall I was responsible for launching in the UK as newly promoted Executive Director of Sales and Marketing. In those Manufacturing led days, the fact that all the launch cars were that peculiar aubergine colour rather took the shine of it however!

I have no personal knowledge of how the cars were tested. However, I can confirm that no performance testing was carried out in the UK. We took all our catalogue data from Opel who would have established the data at the Dudenhofen Proving Ground. And of course, the benchmeark would not have been 0-60 mph but 0 to 100 kph (62 mph). I am guessing, but I would be sure that the figures were obtained on an external test track with just the driver on board and low fuelling. I would also guess that the spare wheel would be on board as it was part of the standard equipment like the ICE etc. However, if a space saver was listed as an option that would be selected as a lower weight item.

I'm sorry this isn't more helpful.

Kind regards

Ian


...were they all aubergine?  :-\ ;D

So. 1 driver, low fuel, spare included (I never took it out!). This means that the timing for my car (when I take out my extra love handles) is bang on around the 9.2 second mark.

Obviously ian mentions that it would have been done as 0-100kph but the figures we've got are 0-60 and all I wanted to do was check testing conditions.

So. confirmation that my old banger does exactly what its meant to! nothing more, nothing less :y :y :y :y :y

now..... off to look in to super chips remaps  ::) ;D

This will make next to SFA difference as the Omega is NA. :(
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #278 on: 29 August 2015, 22:10:33 »

Well, I've had a response from Ian and it's perfect...

Stephen

The Omega is dear to my heart as it was the first Vauxhall I was responsible for launching in the UK as newly promoted Executive Director of Sales and Marketing. In those Manufacturing led days, the fact that all the launch cars were that peculiar aubergine colour rather took the shine of it however!

I have no personal knowledge of how the cars were tested. However, I can confirm that no performance testing was carried out in the UK. We took all our catalogue data from Opel who would have established the data at the Dudenhofen Proving Ground. And of course, the benchmeark would not have been 0-60 mph but 0 to 100 kph (62 mph). I am guessing, but I would be sure that the figures were obtained on an external test track with just the driver on board and low fuelling. I would also guess that the spare wheel would be on board as it was part of the standard equipment like the ICE etc. However, if a space saver was listed as an option that would be selected as a lower weight item.

I'm sorry this isn't more helpful.

Kind regards

Ian


...were they all aubergine?  :-\ ;D

So. 1 driver, low fuel, spare included (I never took it out!). This means that the timing for my car (when I take out my extra love handles) is bang on around the 9.2 second mark.

Obviously ian mentions that it would have been done as 0-100kph but the figures we've got are 0-60 and all I wanted to do was check testing conditions.

So. confirmation that my old banger does exactly what its meant to! nothing more, nothing less :y :y :y :y :y

now..... off to look in to super chips remaps  ::) ;D

This will make next to SFA difference as the Omega is NA. :(

Maybe, but I wont know 'til I try it  :y
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #280 on: 29 August 2015, 22:30:35 »

Webster, I know these guys are a bit annoying, but I find them entertaining at the same time.

Worth a watch?

https://youtu.be/VGtImIP6j3A

Don't blame me if you watch loads of their video's..... I have - Some are funny as f, others..... not so.  ;D
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #281 on: 29 August 2015, 23:03:49 »

Webster, I know these guys are a bit annoying, but I find them entertaining at the same time.

Worth a watch?

https://youtu.be/VGtImIP6j3A

Don't blame me if you watch loads of their video's..... I have - Some are funny as f, others..... not so.  ;D

Interesting watch, Looks similar to this one LINK for the Omega apparently. Wonder if this box has a red and green LED  ;D
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #282 on: 30 August 2015, 08:49:46 »

Is the next thread young bear 'how close to GM's top speed can an omega get' :)
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #283 on: 30 August 2015, 12:16:55 »

lol I have seen the performance chips episode. I like MCM.

the thing is in that episode they bought a $20 chip from ebay that had nothing in it so would that be different to the superchips?

anyway, really not bothered. I got what I wanted. and hopefully this thread will help others wanting to do their 0-60

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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #284 on: 31 August 2015, 12:18:51 »

I think my 2.6 auto was a pretty healthy example of the marque. ........with a best of zero to sixty in 8.68 seconds in 137.60 metres.
So the 2.5 should be a shade quicker, as no compromised by the design decisions on the later engines (performance wise, around the CR)

Not sure why the 2.5 would be quicker than the 2.6......... the 2.5 has a book time of 9.2 to 9.5 seconds. the 2.6 has a book time of 8.2 seconds.
Completely ignore the book times, as we have all said several times before.

The 2.5 can easily beat 9.5s, and a standard 2.6 auto will never hit 8.2s.
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