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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: tunnie on 08 August 2006, 17:27:52
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I still did't like the Kenwood double din unit, so i have now replaced it with this Alpin CDA-9854R, and it looks sooooo much better:
(http://tunnie.co.uk/projecta/DSC05872.JPG)
It instantly looking much better and more in-keeping with the dash.
The display is very nice and looks smooth.. also discovered it has a display output as well so might buy the adaptor for that.
Its described as being steering wheel remote ready.... i bought the adaptor interface which extends from the Alpine interface to the vaux adaptors. But it has this white connector which won't connect to anything :-/
Messing around with the settings to try and activate the steering wheel buttons to the headunit don't seam to work either.
Anyone else had experiance with the above headunit or similar Alpine setup?
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Looks good Tunnie :)
You got the reverse prob to mine tho.....your surround is light grey compared to the din insert.
Mines dark grey surround with light grey stereo....after vx changed the stereo a while back :(
I can see another mod for you to have a go at ;)
Whip out the bottom left blank.....think you might find wiring there already (there is on mine, but no good to me) for an electric rear blind :)
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Think i popped it off a while ago... did't notice any wires my take a look in a min.
Still trying to get these Steering Wheel controls working, had a read though all the blurb... it seams it should work with factor fit steering wheel controls straight away no adaptors needed with this new range of headunits :-/
The colours stand out in a bit in the photo, but it looks nice when in the car. It seams the display interfaces could be as much as £47 for the alpine interface boxes :o
Just going back out to look for blind wiring & maybe get these steering wheel controls working....
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Think i popped it off a while ago... did't notice any wires my take a look in a min.
Still trying to get these Steering Wheel controls working, had a read though all the blurb... it seams it should work with factor fit steering wheel controls straight away no adaptors needed with this new range of headunits :-/
The colours stand out in a bit in the photo, but it looks nice when in the car. It seams the display interfaces could be as much as £47 for the alpine interface boxes :o
Just going back out to look for blind wiring & maybe get these steering wheel controls working....
Carnt help with hifi prob soz.....
You may need to look carefully for the blind wiring....as the switch is just a push in one straight on the connector behind the blank....behind the connector you may see the wiring already connected to the socket.....mines also got the wiring for the remote boot release.....which is also as much use as a chocolate fire guard ;D
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Being a estate you can use it to wack chavs that walk behind your car... beef up the gas struts. Someone walking up to nosey in your boot... WHAM boot flys up knocking them out cold! ;D
Anywho check for blind wiring... i think i have it! :D
Taking off the blank plate i can see the plastic holes same shade as the wood, beind that if i look closely i can see metal connectors!!!
Does that mean all i need is the blind? wack it in and connect it to the spare connection in the boot?? - If so i wonder if that scrappy still has that blind, i might be right in thinking the parcel shelf for it was same colour as mine :D
Also managed to access the steering wheel controls, in theory it should be very good because the headunit has millions of controls you can just set a steering wheel button to do a specifc command.
But alas does not seam to work >:( - I can select the Steering wheel controls and then source. You are then suposed to hold down the button on the steering wheel you want to use and watch the display change from FF to DE, but it does not change no matter what buttons i use >:(
I bought the ALPINE-KWE-871E adaptor cable which is supposed to be for all Alpine Steering wheel ready units but the white connector (8 pin) is female, and the Vx loom is also a female connector. >:( >:(
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I had an Alpine fitted to my Veccy.
The adaptor plugged straight in no probs. Are you sure you have the correct one?
The reason i'm asking is cos mines was specifically for a Vectra, not all Vauxhalls, i also had to state the year of the car too. Maybe you need the same for the Omega.
Unless Alpine have changed things and now only do a universal adapter. :o
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i strongly suspect it maybe the wrong adaptor... but it says Omega compatible >:(
having trouble finding the right adaptor
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It took me an eternity to get mine when i ordered it.
Had to come from Japan, apparently. Try speaking to Alpine UK and see what they have to say for themselves.
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Does that mean all i need is the blind? wack it in and connect it to the spare connection in the boot?? - If so i wonder if that scrappy still has that blind, i might be right in thinking the parcel shelf for it was same colour as mine :D
Im not sure how much of the wiring is there, boot end....as mines an estate....but its a good sign the switch end is there :)
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If you have wiring for the blind, you will have a 3 pin connector just under parcel shelf on left. Most prefacelifts seem to have it, not sure about facelifts.
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The steering whel controls present them self as one wire to position 1 I think (black with a red stripe) on the ISO connector.... (bottom left when you look at it through the stereo cage)
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The steering whel controls present them self as one wire to position 1 I think (black with a red stripe) on the ISO connector.... (bottom left when you look at it through the stereo cage)
I will pop out now and take another look, the interface adaptor (not sure if i need it) the spare connector has 3 wires blue organge and black.
As for the blind, yup i have the connector in the boot! :)
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Good luck with that adaptor Tunnie!
I have the blind socket too. I like the idea of fiiting the blind, then writing rude things on it with a marker pen, such as "I think you may have given a false indication" or "I regret to inform you that you appear to be a moron". It could be unfurled to reveal the message as appropriate.
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Good to se that Alpine are maintaining there usual naff installation guides.
The remote connection, it looks to me like a 2 pin jack?
If so then its the outer screen to 0V and centre connection to pin 1.....what alpine adaptor interface do you have?
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i have the Alpine KWE-871E
After contacting Alpine UK it appears I also need a KCE-870B - Main Interface which is £47 ! :o
It seams the spare white connector on the 817E goes to this box, then the box connects to the H/U.
This is what i have at the moment, but i think i need the £47 adaptor :-/
(http://tunnie.co.uk/projecta/DSC05880.JPG)
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i have the Alpine KWE-871E
After contacting Alpine UK it appears I also need a KCE-870B - Main Interface which is £47 ! :o
It seams the spare white connector on the 817E goes to this box, then the box connects to the H/U.
This is what i have at the moment, but i think i need the £47 adaptor :-/
(http://tunnie.co.uk/projecta/DSC05880.JPG)
That's right.
I remember that number, that's the same number as the interface i had.
Like i said in a previous post, you might have to wait a while for them to get it though. :(
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i could get it the main interface for £47 next day from caraudiosecurity.com
There are some on flebay i am keeping my eye on...
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i could get it the main interface for £47 next day from caraudiosecurity.com
There are some on flebay i am keeping my eye on...
They're obviously more popular now than when i had to get mine, which was a good few years back.
I had to wait an eternity, had a vision of a wee Japanese bloke bringing it over here in a rickshaw. :)
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Looking on the Alpine europe site (steering wheel adapters) it shows you what you need to work the display and steering wheel controls. It seems the KEC-870B will not work the display, but the KEC-970B will.
http://www.alpine-europe.com/content/cms/index.php?t=302&language=english
Opel Omega .1999 .2002 KCE-970B main adapter KWE-972E wiring harness Headunit
If Can-Bus cables (2 cables twisted together) are present in the radio connector, this will not work. Should work steering wheel abd display
Opel Omega .1994 .1999 KCE-970B main adapter KWE-971E wiring harness Headunit
If Can-Bus cables (2 cables twisted together) are present in the radio connector, this will not work.
Opel Omega .1999 .2002 KCE-970B main adapter KWE-971E wiring harness Headunit
Will work with KCE-870B-R3 and above. WITHOUT DISPLAY OUT PUT!!!
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Don't know if it's been mentioned.
There's very little room behind the headunit for adaptors.
I fitted an ISO extender in mine, but it would be difficult if it was any bigger.
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Tunnie, could you tell me whether you managed to fit both the headunit adaptor and the steering wheel control adaptor in successfully. From what I can tell I need both and I've read that space is limited.
For instance if I was to have a Sony HU and wanted to use the steering controls and use the computer display I would need both of these I believe?
Adaptor cables £3 (for Sony in this case) & £22
http://www.lowcostcaraudio.co.uk/shop/Autoleads-PC99-SON-PC99SON-Multi-Stalk-Patch-Lead_productJJ1570ZZcategoryJJ/ACCESSORIES/SONY/
http://www.lowcostcaraudio.co.uk/shop/Autoleads-PC99-X06-PC99X06-Vauxhall-Multistalk-Adaptor_searchTextJJPC99-X06ZZgo.xJJ0ZZgo.yJJ0ZZsearchMethodJJproductNameZZproductJJ1556ZZcategoryJJ/ACCESSORIES/VAUXHALL/
Cheers
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Tunnie, could you tell me whether you managed to fit both the headunit adaptor and the steering wheel control adaptor in successfully. From what I can tell I need both and I've read that space is limited.
For instance if I was to have a Sony HU and wanted to use the steering controls and use the computer display I would need both of these I believe?
Adaptor cables £3 (for Sony in this case) & £22
http://www.lowcostcaraudio.co.uk/shop/Autoleads-PC99-SON-PC99SON-Multi-Stalk-Patch-Lead_productJJ1570ZZcategoryJJ/ACCESSORIES/SONY/
http://www.lowcostcaraudio.co.uk/shop/Autoleads-PC99-X06-PC99X06-Vauxhall-Multistalk-Adaptor_searchTextJJPC99-X06ZZgo.xJJ0ZZgo.yJJ0ZZsearchMethodJJproductNameZZproductJJ1556ZZcategoryJJ/ACCESSORIES/VAUXHALL/
Cheers
If you get a Sony head unit you dont need both leads just a soundlinks VAU01(or 02)DIS, also marked up as Connects 2 DOPS002 or 003 or 004 depending on the car
One box does display and steering wheel but is very tight to fit in, i know as ive done it but i did cut and extend the cables and fitted the box behind the glove box
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Now DOPS004 Prefacelift or DOPS005 Facelift
5 has the 3 row extra connector 4 has 2 row.
002 replaced by 4 003 replaced by 5 001 was replaced by 2
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Oh and I cut mine and soldered to the radio adaptor lead - rather than extend either solution works
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Now DOPS004 Prefacelift or DOPS005 Facelift
5 has the 3 row extra connector 4 has 2 row.
002 replaced by 4 003 replaced by 5 001 was replaced by 2
Thats not 100% accurate
The DOPS002 and 003 is (was) the same unit - acording to the sticker on the front of the box
My prefacelift has the connects lead for the facelift, its all to do with which head unit and display.
If its the integrated phone 700 head unit then the third connector is the same as the double din unit found in the facelift.
I know this after spending £86 on a lead that doesnt fit!! >:(
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Now DOPS004 Prefacelift or DOPS005 Facelift
5 has the 3 row extra connector 4 has 2 row.
002 replaced by 4 003 replaced by 5 001 was replaced by 2
Thats not 100% accurate
The DOPS002 and 003 is (was) the same unit - acording to the sticker on the front of the box
My prefacelift has the connects lead for the facelift, its all to do with which head unit and display.
If its the integrated phone 700 head unit then the third connector is the same as the double din unit found in the facelift.
I know this after spending £86 on a lead that doesnt fit!! >:(
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the 001 was for basic display only and was soon dropped - buy 002 they say.
003 was for newer models than the 002 - both had issues with MP3 players.
004 and 005 are the current models 005 as three row top plug, 004 has two row.
And the difference between the units was as simple as changing the lead. Mine was a 004 bought as a 005 (seller didn't know) got a new lead from Connects2 for £10 to convert to 005
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the 001 was for basic display only and was soon dropped - buy 002 they say.
003 was for newer models than the 002 - both had issues with MP3 players.
004 and 005 are the current models 005 as three row top plug, 004 has two row.
And the difference between the units was as simple as changing the lead. Mine was a 004 bought as a 005 (seller didn't know) got a new lead from Connects2 for £10 to convert to 005
Bit more info after getting hold of the Soundlix Tech people they have confirmed that the display adaptors DONOT work with the following head units:- CCRT700, NCDR1100 and NCDR1500.
The steering wheel controls work fine but it isnt compatable with the GID, hence why im having trouble with mine!!
Soundlinx and Connects2 is the same box just diff label on the front, the VAU01DIS is for the CAR200/300/400/CDR500 and is the same as the DOPS004
The VAU02DIS is for the CAR2003/2004/CCR2006/CDR2005
Funily enough 5 mins after my e-mail the soundlinx website was updated and the ref to the CCRT700 was removed, not a lot of cop as ive p1ssed £150 up the wall!!!
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Thats a right bu**er. What have you lost on as those leads are not £150!
There is a forum at COnnects2 as well
http://www.connects2.com/forum/
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Thats a right bu**er. What have you lost on as those leads are not £150!
There is a forum at COnnects2 as well
http://www.connects2.com/forum/
The money went on a VAU01DIS at £86 then on a VAU02DIS at £70
Unfortunately the shop i got the first one from went out of business so couldnt take it back
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Thats a right bu**er. What have you lost on as those leads are not £150!
There is a forum at COnnects2 as well
http://www.connects2.com/forum/
The money went on a VAU01DIS at £86 then on a VAU02DIS at £70
Unfortunately the shop i got the first one from went out of business so couldnt take it back
I bought mine on Ebay (£30) after selling the 002 (£15) but you can shop around for less - what will annoy you is that only the lead is different.
Put them for sale here!
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