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Damper (shock) query
« on: 13 January 2014, 13:46:26 »

Hi guys,

As some may know I have a creaing from the front and a creaking from the rear.... and that's before I talk about the car  ::)

Anyway, the creaking from the front has gone since me and Martin fitted new wishbones. But I still have the creaking from the rear. A session of prying everything looking for the source produced nothing. I was going to replace donut bushes even though they felt secure in place. But I think that's a mistake.

I did however discover a bit of oil on the shock body but I didn't think that would cause creaking. However, having spoken to my tutor he thinks that the shock leaking could simply mean that it's allowing other suspension components to contact each other; so even though the creaking isn't coming from the shocks... it's the thing that's causing it.

Does this sound plausable to you guys? Bearing in mind I've found nothing else of concern re the rear suspension?

Cheers boyos :)
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Re: Damper (shock) query
« Reply #1 on: 14 January 2014, 18:29:42 »

Anyone? lol
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Re: Damper (shock) query
« Reply #2 on: 14 January 2014, 19:25:21 »

If its leaking, it ought to be replaced. Regardless of anything else.
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Re: Damper (shock) query
« Reply #3 on: 14 January 2014, 20:19:46 »

Cheers Chris. Yup, will replace it. But just wondered from a learning point of view if it could cause other suspension components to rub/touching .e. Causing the creaking  :)
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« Reply #4 on: 14 January 2014, 20:27:25 »

Cheers Chris. Yup, will replace it. But just wondered from a learning point of view if it could cause other suspension components to rub/touching .e. Causing the creaking  :)

If there's no fluid in the shock, or not enough, quite possibly.
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Re: Damper (shock) query
« Reply #5 on: 14 January 2014, 20:28:57 »

Cheers mate. As I can't find any rear suspension problems I'll swap these out and hope that clears the creaking  :)

How long was it since I saw you? 2011? I'm thinking that's a short life  :'(
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Re: Damper (shock) query
« Reply #6 on: 14 January 2014, 20:32:27 »

Cheers mate. As I can't find any rear suspension problems I'll swap these out and hope that clears the creaking  :)

How long was it since I saw you? 2011? I'm thinking that's a short life  :'(

Very short. What did we fit? Got the receipt?

Non self levelling shouldn't leak from the shock body, no matter what.

Sure its not running down from the seal?
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Re: Damper (shock) query
« Reply #7 on: 14 January 2014, 20:34:53 »

Genuine GM. Non self levelling.

All I know is there,s a bunch of oil on the bottom as if it's run down from up top somewhere mate. That from the seal area?
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Re: Damper (shock) query
« Reply #8 on: 14 January 2014, 20:35:23 »

Depends on the severity of the bump and the characteristics of the shock and spring. The spring carries all the weight, to the point where the shock could be completely removed in theory. Obviously you can't do it in practice on most cars because the shock governs the maximum extent to which the spring is allowed to extend.

A bump with a fierce edge will load the suspension more quickly than a bump that has a radiused edge. Without the shock absorber to check the movement it is possible the suspension could bottom out, on a harsh bump.
The whole relationship between damping and springs is deep to say the least.

Your shock itself could be creaking, nothing uncommon about that.
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Re: Damper (shock) query
« Reply #9 on: 14 January 2014, 20:38:38 »

Thanks Andy . I'll get the buggers replaced ASAP  :y
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« Reply #10 on: 14 January 2014, 20:48:02 »

Genuine GM. Non self levelling.

All I know is there,s a bunch of oil on the bottom as if it's run down from up top somewhere mate. That from the seal area?

Seal is most likely. Might be worth looking into a warranty claim.
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Re: Damper (shock) query
« Reply #11 on: 14 January 2014, 20:50:08 »

Genuine GM. Non self levelling.

All I know is there,s a bunch of oil on the bottom as if it's run down from up top somewhere mate. That from the seal area?

Seal is most likely. Might be worth looking into a warranty claim.

Cheers mate. That would be real handy. Sadly though I doubt I have the receipt  :'(

Never mind... Live n learn.

Going to try pattern ones this time I think  :-X
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Re: Damper (shock) query
« Reply #12 on: 14 January 2014, 20:57:32 »

Genuine GM. Non self levelling.

All I know is there,s a bunch of oil on the bottom as if it's run down from up top somewhere mate. That from the seal area?

Seal is most likely. Might be worth looking into a warranty claim.

Cheers mate. That would be real handy. Sadly though I doubt I have the receipt  :'(

Never mind... Live n learn.

Going to try pattern ones this time I think  :-X

If purchased on tc they might have a record...?
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Re: Damper (shock) query
« Reply #13 on: 14 January 2014, 20:59:19 »

Genuine GM. Non self levelling.

All I know is there,s a bunch of oil on the bottom as if it's run down from up top somewhere mate. That from the seal area?

Seal is most likely. Might be worth looking into a warranty claim.

Cheers mate. That would be real handy. Sadly though I doubt I have the receipt  :'(

Never mind... Live n learn.

Going to try pattern ones this time I think  :-X

If purchased on tc they might have a record...?

Hmmm. That would really help with the current dough situ actually. Thanks Chris  :y :y
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Re: Damper (shock) query
« Reply #14 on: 14 January 2014, 21:02:47 »

I've got a creaky rear too  :)

Likewise, a prybar doesn't reveal anything untoward, so I'm actually going to replace the rear axle mounting bushes (donuts) to see if that helps. I'll let you know how I get on.
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