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Ken T

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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #15 on: 14 November 2009, 09:12:31 »

Remember there was  a system that put an extinguishing line next to the petrol line. That seemed a good idea. What happened to it ?.

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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #16 on: 15 November 2009, 16:01:45 »

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Remember there was  a system that put an extinguishing line next to the petrol line. That seemed a good idea. What happened to it ?.

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can still get this system on trucks etc
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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #17 on: 15 November 2009, 16:05:47 »

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I need to mount a 1kg ABC powder (mourning the sad loss of the best Halon 1211 types  >:( >:() fire extinguisher in a facelift Omega cabin if poss.

I usually mount these on the floor of the passenger footwell, screwed into the cross member, but there is not enough clearance for the seat adjuster bar, so must go elsewhere.

Apart from chucking in the first aid compartment, anyone got any ideas for a neat, easy to reach, discreet mounting solution?

(Extinguisher is brand new, tidy and in date-code; was told they are spot checked if unlucky abroad).

Help appreciated  :y

dont no if things have changed but i was told a few years ago by a fire officer that powder was no good in the car.the reason being that as your car bumps about the powder compacts makeing in no good when you come to use it
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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #18 on: 15 November 2009, 16:11:25 »

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I need to mount a 1kg ABC powder (mourning the sad loss of the best Halon 1211 types  >:( >:() fire extinguisher in a facelift Omega cabin if poss.

I usually mount these on the floor of the passenger footwell, screwed into the cross member, but there is not enough clearance for the seat adjuster bar, so must go elsewhere.

Apart from chucking in the first aid compartment, anyone got any ideas for a neat, easy to reach, discreet mounting solution?

(Extinguisher is brand new, tidy and in date-code; was told they are spot checked if unlucky abroad).

Help appreciated  :y

dont no if things have changed but i was told a few years ago by a fire officer that powder was no good in the car.the reason being that as your car bumps about the powder compacts makeing in no good when you come to use it

We were told to give them a damn good shaking, cocktail shaker style, befoe discharging them and, if possible, a shake when in use too for exactly that problem.   :)
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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #19 on: 15 November 2009, 17:59:02 »

so your cars on fire you hit the fire ex and it doesnt work then you remeber to shake it try again then shake it again half way through
as the extinguisher only lasts about 40 secs you might have 5 secs on the car!!!
also if its a underbonnet fire just pull the release handel BUT DONT OPEN IT
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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #20 on: 15 November 2009, 18:09:58 »

Mounting a fire extinguisher makes your balls cold ::)
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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #21 on: 15 November 2009, 19:14:13 »

I've fitted mine to the underside of the parcel shelf, so as you open the boot it's hanging there and it doesn't get in the way and its easy to access :y
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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #22 on: 15 November 2009, 22:42:50 »

An old Glasgow solution to this problem was to keep a 4 pack of McEwans in the boot. If you had a fire, just shake one before pointing it and pulling the ring.  :) Bit of a waste but ...........

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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #23 on: 15 November 2009, 23:02:25 »

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so your cars on fire you hit the fire ex and it doesnt work then you remeber to shake it try again then shake it again half way through
as the extinguisher only lasts about 40 secs you might have 5 secs on the car!!!
also if its a underbonnet fire just pull the release handel BUT DONT OPEN IT

Never had to put out a fire in my car but had to discharge an extinguisher or several on other peoples...

Only relaying the info I was told regarding shaking the extinguisher.  After the first 2 or 3 it becomes second nature if its a dry powder setup.

As to opening the bonnet, agreed.  The inrush of fresh air can be spectacular....  Pointless squirting it through the radiator grille - theres a radiator in the way!

Had success by discharging it upwards from underneath, past the engine undertray.   :y
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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #24 on: 16 November 2009, 11:52:39 »

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so your cars on fire you hit the fire ex and it doesnt work then you remeber to shake it try again then shake it again half way through
as the extinguisher only lasts about 40 secs you might have 5 secs on the car!!!
also if its a underbonnet fire just pull the release handel BUT DONT OPEN IT

Never had to put out a fire in my car but had to discharge an extinguisher or several on other peoples...

Only relaying the info I was told regarding shaking the extinguisher.  After the first 2 or 3 it becomes second nature if its a dry powder setup.

As to opening the bonnet, agreed.  The inrush of fresh air can be spectacular....  Pointless squirting it through the radiator grille - theres a radiator in the way!

Had success by discharging it upwards from underneath, past the engine undertray.   :y

This is why the old Halon1211 gas ones were much better-they got through the rad no probs.

Why ban it due to cfcs when putting out the fire would be better ecologically??

ABC powder are hopeless compared...
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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #25 on: 20 November 2009, 12:26:55 »

Now just placed in first aid kit compartment, in rear corner against rear light.  It is held in nicely by the first aid box cradle when shut and the light/inner paintwork is protected by cardboard.

Sorted :y

Nearly did screw to underside of rear parcel shelf, but need height for suitcases etc.  Thanks all  :y
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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #26 on: 20 November 2009, 14:57:28 »

Sounds bloody dangerous having all this loose kit in the cabin,could cause more damage in a crash than it's worth.
We live in La Rochelle western France for 6 months of the year,all the kit except for the hi-viz are in the boot.
I could see the Police having a field day with all this loose stuff  rolling about in the cabin.
There is nothing the European transport law that states all the safety kit must be in the cars cabin,it only states safety kit must be in the car.
Just stuff your hi-viz in the door pockets other bits in the boot and enjoy your trip. :y
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 The funny thing with fire extinguishers is unless you are trained to use one,your not supposed to use it.As a licensed Taxi driver by law we have to carry a fire extinguisher and first aid kit but as non of us has been trained on the equipment we can't use them.
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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #27 on: 20 November 2009, 15:41:15 »

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Sounds bloody dangerous having all this loose kit in the cabin,could cause more damage in a crash than it's worth.
We live in La Rochelle western France for 6 months of the year,all the kit except for the hi-viz are in the boot.
I could see the Police having a field day with all this loose stuff  rolling about in the cabin.
There is nothing the European transport law that states all the safety kit must be in the cars cabin,it only states safety kit must be in the car.
Just stuff your hi-viz in the door pockets other bits in the boot and enjoy your trip. :y
P.s
 The funny thing with fire extinguishers is unless you are trained to use one,your not supposed to use it.As a licensed Taxi driver by law we have to carry a fire extinguisher and first aid kit but as non of us has been trained on the equipment we can't use them.
 

Its not loose, its in the first aid compartment, which is locked shut.  I never have anything loose, anywhere in car after rolling one many years ago and being hit in the face by the contents of the whole car.

Using the fire extinguisher and first aid kit is common sense-don't tell me you need training to use a fire extinguisher  ;D-you can read the instructions.
First aid is just that-the first aid until someone who knows what they are doing gets there-there will be a straightforward guide in the first aid box.

I know there is a liability issue, but hopefully common sense will prevail when necessary  ;D
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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #28 on: 20 November 2009, 15:41:57 »

PS The first aid compartment is in the boot anyway  :y
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Re: Mounting a fire extinguisher
« Reply #29 on: 21 November 2009, 15:57:11 »

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Sounds bloody dangerous having all this loose kit in the cabin,could cause more damage in a crash than it's worth.
We live in La Rochelle western France for 6 months of the year,all the kit except for the hi-viz are in the boot.
I could see the Police having a field day with all this loose stuff  rolling about in the cabin.
There is nothing the European transport law that states all the safety kit must be in the cars cabin,it only states safety kit must be in the car.
Just stuff your hi-viz in the door pockets other bits in the boot and enjoy your trip. :y
P.s
 The funny thing with fire extinguishers is unless you are trained to use one,your not supposed to use it.As a licensed Taxi driver by law we have to carry a fire extinguisher and first aid kit but as non of us has been trained on the equipment we can't use them.
 

Its not loose, its in the first aid compartment, which is locked shut.  I never have anything loose, anywhere in car after rolling one many years ago and being hit in the face by the contents of the whole car.

Using the fire extinguisher and first aid kit is common sense-don't tell me you need training to use a fire extinguisher  ;D-you can read the instructions.
First aid is just that-the first aid until someone who knows what they are doing gets there-there will be a straightforward guide in the first aid box.

I know there is a liability issue, but hopefully common sense will prevail when necessary  ;D


Unless we go on a recognised course for the extinguisher and the first aid kit as a cost of over £400 each we cant use them.Even putting a plaster on a cut on someone that gets infected we are liable.
So if you have a cut/headache or set you pants on fire i cant help you cause you might sue me but i can offer the first aid kit & extinguisher for you to use your self.

When the London taxis LTI TX4 were having  problems catching fire(including mine),2 taxi driver were not paid out by their insurance companies due to them using the extinguishers to put the fires out that were not trained to use.Sad but true
When mine caught fire i just got the burgers and buns out,best BBQ i've ever had and the best way to get rid of a 6 month old £36k taxi.GF08 GFA R.I.P
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