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[the alarming man]

it is poor maintenance vamps if the seals are kept clean and drain holes are clear they won't leak.. the problem is once they start to leak replacement is the only cure and they are PITA to do:y

[hotel21]

it is poor maintenance vamps if the seals are kept clean and drain holes are clear they won't leak.. the problem is once they start to leak replacement is the only cure and they are PITA to do:y

You talking sunroof?  Its not the glass to sunroof rubber seal that leaks most of the time.   Problems include (but not limited to) drains and the plastic 'squares' where drains attach to lower cassette assembly but mainly leak where upper and lower cassette portions sandwich the metal roof skin.  The 'seal' is ineffectual at best (thin foam sponge type stuff) that deteriorates over time and allows water to pass and create leaks through winder handle/leccy motor control assembly.
 
Best repair is removal of upper and lower portions and clean off old guff then reseal with RTV silicone top and bottom. 

[the alarming man]

correct I am talking sunroof. The seal is only ineffectual due to the not being looked after and it as nothing to do with the lump of glass at all...poor maintenance not cleaning the drainage channels and keeping the drain clear


but as for sealing sunroof that is not a repair at all it is a cop out and a quick fix which doesn't solve the problem all it does do it means you have a sunroof you cannot use

[Marks DTM Calib]

I still come out in a cold sweat when I see a Land Rover badge, scarred for life!

[Vamps]

I still come out in a cold sweat when I see a Land Rover badge, scarred for life!

I have had and loved a few series Land Rovers, not exactly luxury but functional, do you know that you can get 22 Cub Scouts into the back of a LWB model...... In the old days....

[Martin_1962]

I still come out in a cold sweat when I see a Land Rover badge, scarred for life!

I have had and loved a few series Land Rovers, not exactly luxury but functional, do you know that you can get 22 Cub Scouts into the back of a LWB model...... In the old days....

Should be able to squish mad BMWs with one though and hopefully repel low flying Peugeots, will be interesting to see how much compensation I get

[henryd]

correct I am talking sunroof. The seal is only ineffectual due to the not being looked after and it as nothing to do with the lump of glass at all...poor maintenance not cleaning the drainage channels and keeping the drain clear


but as for sealing sunroof that is not a repair at all it is a cop out and a quick fix which doesn't solve the problem all it does do it means you have a sunroof you cannot use

H21 is not saying seal up the roofs themselves,they mainly leak where the cassette joins to the roof panel,that is what needs sealing up(on the D2 anyway)

[Marks DTM Calib]

I have had and loved a few series Land Rovers, not exactly luxury but functional, do you know that you can get 22 Cub Scouts into the back of a LWB model...... In the old days....

I have to look after and maintain

1 off Series 3 short wheel base pickup - 2.25 petrol
1 off series 4 long wheel base with bench seats in rear - 2.25 petrol
1 off 110 long wheel base with cherry picker mounted on rear, 2.5D
1 off 110 long wheel base with road rail fittings - 300TDi
1 off 110 long wheel base - 2.5TD (19J engine)

There is also a series 1 petrol short wheel base with a rotted head (but dry stored for the last 20 plus years, which I am not going bloody near!

And I bloody hate working on them, there is always 'something' needs doing on the dam things.

[05omegav6]

Just like an Omega then...

[Marks DTM Calib]

Just like an Omega then...

No, they require SO MUCH more fiddling with!

[hotel21]

correct I am talking sunroof. The seal is only ineffectual due to the not being looked after and it as nothing to do with the lump of glass at all...poor maintenance not cleaning the drainage channels and keeping the drain clear


but as for sealing sunroof that is not a repair at all it is a cop out and a quick fix which doesn't solve the problem all it does do it means you have a sunroof you cannot use

H21 is not saying seal up the roofs themselves,they mainly leak where the cassette joins to the roof panel,that is what needs sealing up(on the D2 anyway)

Correct. The sunroof has 4 major components viz outer plastic part that's stuck to outside of roof, inside plastic part that has the drain tubes, operating mechanism etc coming from as well as the rubber seal that the moving glass panel seals against. The seal I refer to is the one fitted between the outer plastic housing and the outer metal roof skin and the inner plastic panel (with drains etc) that seals against the inner roof skin. Removal and reseating requires removal of interior side panels and roof liner before both sunroofs can be split and removed and resealed.

Once done, 99% of leaks are sorted and glass panel remains fully functional. 

It's not poor maintenance it's poor design and manufacturing. 

[bigboykarl]

what sort of mpg does a td5 achieve...at the min i have a e320cdi which averages 30mpg around town and 40 ish at 85 on the motorway

[Marks DTM Calib]

This sums things up nicely

http://www.repairmylandrover.co.uk/featured-items/alternative-land-rover-owners-manual

One of my favourites:

A note about Landrover horns. It may not be possible to hear the horn sounding whilst driving your vehicle as we fitted the quietist one we could find, that is because Landrover Plc do not wish to contribute to sound pollution. This horn works by giving a small, none damaging, electric shock to an ant that lives in metal box on the front grill, this causes the said critter to fart through a small trumpet, we think. Sh*t if you can’t hear a Landrover heading towards in the first place you are as deaf as a post so sounding the horn is a useless exercise anyway… The sound deadening we omitted to fit to your vehicle also helps prevent you hearing the horn above the cacophony of mechanical noise that emanate from your vehicle during normal use

[henryd]

what sort of mpg does a td5 achieve...at the min i have a e320cdi which averages 30mpg around town and 40 ish at 85 on the motorway

Thats a distant dream for any Discovery 2

[henryd]

This sums things up nicely

http://www.repairmylandrover.co.uk/featured-items/alternative-land-rover-owners-manual

One of my favourites:

A note about Landrover horns. It may not be possible to hear the horn sounding whilst driving your vehicle as we fitted the quietist one we could find, that is because Landrover Plc do not wish to contribute to sound pollution. This horn works by giving a small, none damaging, electric shock to an ant that lives in metal box on the front grill, this causes the said critter to fart through a small trumpet, we think. Sh*t if you can’t hear a Landrover heading towards in the first place you are as deaf as a post so sounding the horn is a useless exercise anyway… The sound deadening we omitted to fit to your vehicle also helps prevent you hearing the horn above the cacophony of mechanical noise that emanate from your vehicle during normal use

Lol