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[Webby the Bear]

Goooood evening guys. Hope ur all well. I need a steering idler. My one has got some play (yet more things to do 😬😬😬)

Anyhow I ring up Bedfraud Battery and they have two different sizes  new to me. I’m sure there was only one option before 🤔

Anyhow they’re both special order and I don’t know which one is correct. So I’m going to order it online. Any links for recommendations? I put this one on not so long back and I think it was a lemforder. But as it wasn’t that long ago I’d rather try a different longer lasting one…. Unless they’re all short lifetimes 🤦‍♂️😂😂😂

[cam.in.head]

others will havesome good suggestions as to whats good and bad but all i can add is just make sure the actual bush is whats worn.ive seen some where they tighten up but havnt actually nipped up. ie the inner is the wrong length.albeit a small anount.
best bet if you can is find a gm arm for omega or carlton or senator ,monza,royale .and just use the pressed in bush. it should be ok for years then !

[dave the builder]

Omega A ,Carlton, senny have 2 sizes , 110mm and 120mm
Omega B are all 110 mm IIRC

[Doctor Gollum]

Omega A ,Carlton, senny have 2 sizes , 110mm and 120mm
Omega B are all 110 mm IIRC

Yup

The longer one was to give greater leverage to cars without power steering. Omega B all had power steering as standard iirc

[Enceladus]

Omega A ,Carlton, senny have 2 sizes , 110mm and 120mm
Omega B are all 110 mm IIRC

Yup

The longer one was to give greater leverage to cars without power steering. Omega B all had power steering as standard iirc

Nothing to do with power steering. The longer 121mm arm is for extended wheelbase vehicles.

You could re-bush your existing arm if it's genuine GM and/or ZF arm. Lemförder 11602 03 is the bush.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

A couple of years ago I removed the bush from a genuine 12mm arm I bought on ebay and pressed it into a 110mm arm.
Just need to get around to fitting it to the car now.

[TheBoy]

Just need to get around to fitting it to the car now.

Thats what happens when you buy an old sports car, and also own French shite

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Your not wrong. 

[Webby the Bear]

Thanks for input men much appreciated. 😃😃😃👍👍👍

[Webby the Bear]

Sorry boys not bumping but do u know what sized nuts 🤭 secure the idler to the chassis and to the centre track rod? I don’t have a home toolkit so would be ideal to just take home the right size stuff? TIA 🥰🥰🥰

[Doctor Gollum]

Originals are either 16 or 18mm (the latter rings a bell), aftermarket could be anything from 16-19 mm

[Webby the Bear]

Legend. Cheers dg 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[Doctor Gollum]

Take a 21 mm socket as well, just in case the idler arm to shaft nut is larger

[Enceladus]

Take a 21 mm socket as well, just in case the idler arm to shaft nut is larger

21mm? Did you mean 19mm?
You'll also need a pair of ball-pein type hammers. Hit the ball joint at two opposite points simultaneously to (shock) separate the idler end from the steering. Best done from underneath and with some downward force applied at the same time, wedge in something like a chisel or big screwdriver. So a three handed job in an area with room for one.

Presumably you should be able to use a joint splitter, but I don't think a standard off the shelf splitter will work. It's something more exotic. Perhaps a special tool or maybe just a fork chisel type tool. I can't remember. Somebody must know?

[LC0112G]

Sorry boys not bumping but do u know what sized nuts 🤭 secure the idler to the chassis and to the centre track rod? I don’t have a home toolkit so would be ideal to just take home the right size stuff? TIA 🥰🥰🥰

You don't have to unbolt the arm from the chassis leg. Just undo the nut on the bottom of the arm and the idler will slide off.

Take a 21 mm socket as well, just in case the idler arm to shaft nut is larger

Presumably you should be able to use a joint splitter, but I don't think a standard off the shelf splitter will work. It's something more exotic. Perhaps a special tool or maybe just a fork chisel type tool. I can't remember. Somebody must know?

Trouble with that is you'll end up wrecking the rubber ball joint cover on the centre tie rod and end up having to replace that as well. I've not found a splitter tool that's thin enough to get in there without damaging the cover. As said above just belt the b'jesus smartly tap the two sides with some heavy hammers. It'll pop off, eventually.