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Title: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 24 November 2011, 13:42:37
Afternoon people,

I've just sold my 730Ld and instantly had delivered another BMW 730Ld SE, in black, however this time with black leather. Anyway, I've come across a problem straight away, it's done 60,000 miles, and it's in a bit of a sorry state, but for the price, I'm extremely happy. The main problem I've got is the bonnet won't open, and I need to check everything out, vin number etc. Now I know the oil is fine, because it's all digital on the i-Drive, but I need to get this sorted ASAP, luckily I've had it delivered on the basis that if I get the bonnet open and everything is ok I have it. So I'm stood outside my house like a plum bouncing on the bonnet whilst my son pulls from inside, people are looking at me strange too and it's bugging me  ;D Anyone know how I can get in there?
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: twiglet on 24 November 2011, 14:04:40
(http://saws-tool.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/stihl-saw.jpg)

 ;D :y
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 November 2011, 14:22:39
Oooh!  :o I was going to post one of these, then thought I'd be nice. ;)

(http://www.freeyourneck.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/tin-opener.jpg)
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: tunnie on 24 November 2011, 14:43:07
Being BMW want to flash some gadgets, Plasma cutter?

(http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/How-Plasma-Cutters-Work-2.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 24 November 2011, 15:07:25
Bag of shit is beginning to get on my nerves now  >:( I'm trying to think how I can possibly get in there without removing things like the front bumper, I could access via the wheel arch trim I think, but it's double latched and one side, you can't get your hand up I don't think  :-\
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: tunnie on 24 November 2011, 15:16:30
Quick Googling found me this:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=360246 (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=360246)

Carfully remove one of the front grills?
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: zirk on 24 November 2011, 15:17:27
Cant comment on the BM, but strangely Ive had to get in three Migs with broken bonnet straps this year now, even made a bonnet popping tool but still means braking the front grill.

Chris.
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: fiend61 on 24 November 2011, 15:54:02
yup i got that tunnie went abit further and found this
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28107540@N02/sets/72157622449837284/
dont know if it helps ???
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: millwall on 24 November 2011, 17:40:02
looking at the first 3 replies i bet your glad you asked del ;D ;D
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: jonny2112 on 24 November 2011, 17:43:47
looking at the first 3 replies i bet your glad you asked del ;D ;D

 ;D ;D :D
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 24 November 2011, 18:38:30
i could sort that out for you Del but i would need the car for at least a month these things are complicated :) :)
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 24 November 2011, 21:58:03
i could sort that out for you Del but i would need the car for at least a month these things are complicated :) :)

Once I've sorted the wheel wobble, you're welcome to come and have a drive :y

I've got it anyway, and for the price I actually paid I'm totally shocked, I thought the last one was cheap  :D :D
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 25 November 2011, 00:13:15
i could sort that out for you Del but i would need the car for at least a month these things are complicated :) :)

Once I've sorted the wheel wobble, you're welcome to come and have a drive :y

I've got it anyway, and for the price I actually paid I'm totally shocked, I thought the last one was cheap  :D :D

back in more prosperous times i was lucky enough to have a couple of 5 s and eventually a 7 was the old model e38 all from new anyway bmw marketing still sent out the odd mag etc and i would occaissionally get a broucher to drool over when out the blue bmw rang and asked if i wanted a extended test drive any model i wanted :o chose a 730d sport some bloke delivered from up north on a thursday morning with a full tank and collected it tuesday brand spanking new with 500 miles on it what a motor only thing was the gear shift on a stalk but happy to see the new ones have gone back to the stick but never the less awsome car love em

thats a nice collection of motors you got there even the vans a good one :y
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 25 November 2011, 07:58:20
Afternoon people,

I've just sold my 730Ld and instantly had delivered another BMW 730Ld SE, in black, however this time with black leather. Anyway, I've come across a problem straight away, it's done 60,000 miles, and it's in a bit of a sorry state, but for the price, I'm extremely happy. The main problem I've got is the bonnet won't open, and I need to check everything out, vin number etc. Now I know the oil is fine, because it's all digital on the i-Drive, but I need to get this sorted ASAP, luckily I've had it delivered on the basis that if I get the bonnet open and everything is ok I have it. So I'm stood outside my house like a plum bouncing on the bonnet whilst my son pulls from inside, people are looking at me strange too and it's bugging me  ;D Anyone know how I can get in there?

Lol, if you knew how that worked you would not have nearly as much faith in it!
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 25 November 2011, 08:08:44
i could sort that out for you Del but i would need the car for at least a month these things are complicated :) :)

Once I've sorted the wheel wobble, you're welcome to come and have a drive :y

I've got it anyway, and for the price I actually paid I'm totally shocked, I thought the last one was cheap  :D :D

back in more prosperous times i was lucky enough to have a couple of 5 s and eventually a 7 was the old model e38 all from new anyway bmw marketing still sent out the odd mag etc and i would occaissionally get a broucher to drool over when out the blue bmw rang and asked if i wanted a extended test drive any model i wanted :o chose a 730d sport some bloke delivered from up north on a thursday morning with a full tank and collected it tuesday brand spanking new with 500 miles on it what a motor only thing was the gear shift on a stalk but happy to see the new ones have gone back to the stick but never the less awsome car love em

thats a nice collection of motors you got there even the vans a good one :y

Thanks mate, as I say once the wobble is sorted, come have a play of you like :y

Mark, how does it work?
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 25 November 2011, 14:47:35
Well, the bonnet seems to have taken a smack after taking a good look at it today, also the bumper is slightly damaged, so I obviously need to try and get it sorted, however, it runs well, taken it out for a good long drive today and it's sweet as, lowish miles so would expect it to be. Apart from the wheels needing to be balanced and, one tyre needs to be removed as it's a fullrun :o :o everything is all good :). Fixed the door blind today, it had simply come off of the runners  :y

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/4f8d44e6-1.jpg)

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/9db70fd3-1.jpg)

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/ec8315c7.jpg)

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/3ad00c93.jpg)

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/4932b701.jpg)
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 25 November 2011, 15:49:27
Well, the bonnet seems to have taken a smack

was that before you tried to open it or after ::) i though why only half a picture of a car :D fullscreen :D ;D can see the other half now, must have more pics ;)looking good hope the damage is not to serious
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: aaronjb on 25 November 2011, 16:23:59
You change your cars more often than I change my shreddies!  :o ;D
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 25 November 2011, 16:45:55
Mark, how does it work?

Guess work basicaly.

The oil level is monitored via a sensor hence some units dont even have a dipstick with the recommended way of top up being to drain the oil and measure the correct amount back in so as to avoid over filling.

The ECU has a standard oil life figure programmed in and reduces the oil life based mainly on fuel consumption as its inferred that this is related to engine load......and it does this by subtracting 1000 off the life value as set points are reached.

They also have a sensor which detects oil resistance (a pretty poor way of determining oil life)

So they MUST use the correct BMW oil or all bets are off.

The level sensors are known to be problematic with disasterous effects (over filling being the most common!).

Oil life is not adjusted as engines wear and the likes of blow by gases increase.

So to be quite honest, its a gimmick not worth placing any reliance on.



Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 25 November 2011, 16:55:34
Mark, how does it work?

Guess work basicaly.

The oil level is monitored via a sensor hence some units dont even have a dipstick with the recommended way of top up being to drain the oil and measure the correct amount back in so as to avoid over filling.

The ECU has a standard oil life figure programmed in and reduces the oil life based mainly on fuel consumption as its inferred that this is related to engine load......and it does this by subtracting 1000 off the life value as set points are reached.

They also have a sensor which detects oil resistance (a pretty poor way of determining oil life)

So they MUST use the correct BMW oil or all bets are off.

The level sensors are known to be problematic with disasterous effects (over filling being the most common!).

Oil life is not adjusted as engines wear and the likes of blow by gases increase.

So to be quite honest, its a gimmick not worth placing any reliance on.

Well that all sounds very technical  ;D

It's worked for me on the past 4 beemers, so I'll stick to what it says  ;D
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 25 November 2011, 16:56:55
I would go by mileage and short changes!
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 25 November 2011, 16:59:36
I would go by mileage and short changes!

This one has been done every 14,000 ish, although I haven't had a proper look at the history fully yet  :)
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 25 November 2011, 17:04:34
I would go by mileage and short changes!

This one has been done every 14,000 ish, although I haven't had a proper look at the history fully yet  :)

has it got a dipstick (other than behind the wheel  :y ;D)?
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 25 November 2011, 17:13:03
I would go by mileage and short changes!

This one has been done every 14,000 ish, although I haven't had a proper look at the history fully yet  :)

has it got a dipstick (other than behind the wheel  :y ;D)?

Not sure to be honest, can't get the bonnet open  ;D :D :D
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 25 November 2011, 17:17:18
Well done Del 8) - another good looking buy. :y
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 25 November 2011, 17:20:59
Well done Del 8) - another good looking buy. :y

Thanks mate  :y
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 25 November 2011, 18:20:04
Mark, how does it work?

Guess work basicaly.

The oil level is monitored via a sensor hence some units dont even have a dipstick with the recommended way of top up being to drain the oil and measure the correct amount back in so as to avoid over filling.

The ECU has a standard oil life figure programmed in and reduces the oil life based mainly on fuel consumption as its inferred that this is related to engine load......and it does this by subtracting 1000 off the life value as set points are reached.

They also have a sensor which detects oil resistance (a pretty poor way of determining oil life)

So they MUST use the correct BMW oil or all bets are off.

The level sensors are known to be problematic with disasterous effects (over filling being the most common!).

Oil life is not adjusted as engines wear and the likes of blow by gases increase.

So to be quite honest, its a gimmick not worth placing any reliance on.

 :o :o how the break does he know all that :o :y
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 November 2011, 22:14:43
Quote
The oil level is monitored via a sensor hence some units dont even have a dipstick with the recommended way of top up being to drain the oil and measure the correct amount back in so as to avoid over filling.


Only a German development department could make a daft recommendation like that. ::)
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: henryd on 26 November 2011, 00:46:58
Quote
The oil level is monitored via a sensor hence some units dont even have a dipstick with the recommended way of top up being to drain the oil and measure the correct amount back in so as to avoid over filling.


Only a German development department could make a daft recommendation like that. ::)

Agreed, some of the later Mercs are the same although you can access the oil level from the dash display.
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 28 November 2011, 16:08:44
Exellent  :D

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/93db2376.jpg)
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: albitz on 28 November 2011, 16:41:23
So,how did you get the bonnett opened Del ? And does it have a dipstick ?  :-\
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 28 November 2011, 17:16:12
So,how did you get the bonnett opened Del ? And does it have a dipstick ?  :-\

A whole lot of fiddling, had to then drive it to the bodyshop with the bonnet gaffer taped up 18 miles away, it's a good look for a 7 series  ;D

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/BMW.jpg)

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/d8565331.jpg)

However this is much better on fuel than the last 7 series I had, over 60 miles it's averaging this, 90% of this is town driving too:

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/b22c8bbf.jpg)
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 28 November 2011, 17:34:06
So,how did you get the bonnett opened Del ? And does it have a dipstick ?  :-\

A whole lot of fiddling, had to then drive it to the bodyshop with the bonnet gaffer taped up 18 miles away, it's a good look for a 7 series  ;D

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/BMW.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/d8565331.jpg

However this is much better on fuel than the last 7 series I had, over 60 miles it's averaging this, 90% of this is town driving too:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/b22c8bbf.jpg


Quote
bonnet gaffer taped



At least you used a tape of suitable colour. ;D

In any case, I'm that you've got that sorted Del - it does look to be a lovely car. :-* :-*

Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 28 November 2011, 17:38:52
So,how did you get the bonnett opened Del ? And does it have a dipstick ?  :-\

A whole lot of fiddling, had to then drive it to the bodyshop with the bonnet gaffer taped up 18 miles away, it's a good look for a 7 series  ;D

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/BMW.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/d8565331.jpg

However this is much better on fuel than the last 7 series I had, over 60 miles it's averaging this, 90% of this is town driving too:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/b22c8bbf.jpg


Quote
bonnet gaffer taped



At least you used a tape of suitable colour. ;D

In any case, I'm that you've got that sorted Del - it does look to be a lovely car. :-* :-*

I was thinking of using the luminous yellow tape  ;D ;)

Thanks mate  :y :y
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: albitz on 28 November 2011, 18:29:18
So does it have a dipstick ?
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 28 November 2011, 18:32:52
So does it have a dipstick ?

Yes.
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 28 November 2011, 21:26:48
albs you 'dirty old man' Harold you and your dip stick.....result Del glad you got it sorted and keeping it. very nice keep those pics coming will have to take you up on your offer and love to have a look at your collection in the new year. Looking very nice ( drool) mate :y
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 28 November 2011, 21:27:24
So does it have a dipstick ?

Yes.

he will sleep better now ;D ;D
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: albitz on 28 November 2011, 21:31:08
Thought about nothing else all day. ;D ;D
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 28 November 2011, 21:31:21
albs you 'dirty old man' Harold you and your dip stick.....result Del glad you got it sorted and keeping it. very nice keep those pics coming will have to take you up on your offer and love to have a look at your collection in the new year. Looking very nice ( drool) mate :y

 :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 28 November 2011, 21:47:18
Thought about nothing else all day. ;D ;D

hope you sleep well tonioght mate :-* ;D ;D
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: tunnie on 29 November 2011, 08:40:51
I actually like the face-lifted 7 series front, back end still not great.

Can't complain about that fuel consumption though!
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 29 November 2011, 17:27:32
Got it to the bodyshop this morning, price has suddenly gone up £500  :o So I swiftly made an excuse and took it away. He tried telling me the bonnet has twisted, which is utter bullshit, even had the BMW insurance assessor look at it earlier and he said, it's defiantly not twisted.

So it's looking even worse now, no grill etc

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii38/GrizzlyLiam/BMW2-1.jpg)

  :'( Anyone know a good painter in the Kent area that does work for the trade cheap?

Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 29 November 2011, 19:39:16
I actually like the face-lifted 7 series front, back end still not great.

Can't complain about that fuel consumption though!

i think its got a great backside :) :y
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 29 November 2011, 19:41:33
is that a car painter or painter painter
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 29 November 2011, 20:43:04
is that a car painter or painter painter

Car painter and dent puller  :y Good, but cheap  ;)
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 29 November 2011, 20:43:35
I actually like the face-lifted 7 series front, back end still not great.

Can't complain about that fuel consumption though!

The pre-facelift e65/66 was quite a minger  :y
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 29 November 2011, 20:52:32
is that a car painter or painter painter

Car painter and dent puller  :y Good, but cheap  ;)

Del Boy,   Bmw 7 series and car painter words unfortunately doesnt match with cheap..  please stay away from butchers
 
and go for a known recommended painter in your area.. plus if they cant match the paint color, you will definitely regret and pay twice.. :-\
Title: Re: One goes and another comes with Bonnet problems
Post by: Del Boy on 29 November 2011, 22:37:24
is that a car painter or painter painter

Car painter and dent puller  :y Good, but cheap  ;)

Del Boy,   Bmw 7 series and car painter words unfortunately doesnt match with cheap..  please stay away from butchers
 
and go for a known recommended painter in your area.. plus if they cant match the paint color, you will definitely regret and pay twice.. :-\

 :y