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Title: American elections
Post by: STEMO on 08 February 2024, 22:38:01
Imagine being an American, and being asked to choose between Trump or Biden. We've all read about Donalds trials and tribulations in the news recently, but this is possibly worse:

https://news.sky.com/story/president-joe-biden-wilfully-disclosed-classified-information-but-wont-face-criminal-charges-13067069
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: dave the builder on 08 February 2024, 22:52:57

Imagine being an BRITISH, and being asked to choose between THE SHOWER OF S**T We've all read about  :D
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: ronnyd on 08 February 2024, 23:59:27
Special Council Robert Hur, I wonder if he has a brother called Ben?  :-[
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: Mister Rog on 09 February 2024, 00:02:06
Even at the last US election I was staggered that Trump and Biden were the best that the good 'ol US of A could come up with.

And now, with a UK general election looming, I ask myself the same question.

It seems that politics has been reduced to having to try and choose from the least bad, not the actual best

Title: Re: American elections
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 February 2024, 00:20:47
Every facet of the world we occupy has been dumbed down to the barest minimum required.
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: STEMO on 09 February 2024, 07:01:43
Even at the last US election I was staggered that Trump and Biden were the best that the good 'ol US of A could come up with.

And now, with a UK general election looming, I ask myself the same question.

It seems that politics has been reduced to having to try and choose from the least bad, not the actual best
That's always been the case, Rog. I don't think I've ever fully supported any party I've voted for in the past.
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: STEMO on 09 February 2024, 07:05:34

Imagine being an BRITISH, and being asked to choose between THE SHOWER OF S**T We've all read about  :D
Maybe, but with our role in world affairs amounting to no more than kissing America's arse, it really doesn't matter to the rest of the world who's in charge here.
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: Rangie on 09 February 2024, 07:46:12
We are all doomed..
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 February 2024, 12:15:49

Imagine being an BRITISH, and being asked to choose between THE SHOWER OF S**T We've all read about  :D
Maybe, but with our role in world affairs amounting to no more than kissing America's arse, it really doesn't matter to the rest of the world who's in charge here.

More licking than kissing. :)
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 February 2024, 12:25:17
We are all doomed..
Pseudo middle classed whining never achieved anything.
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: Rangie on 09 February 2024, 13:54:17
Even at the last US election I was staggered that Trump and Biden were the best that the good 'ol US of A could come up with.

And now, with a UK general election looming, I ask myself the same question.

It seems that politics has been reduced to having to try and choose from the least bad, not the actual best
That's always been the case, Rog. I don't think I've ever fully supported any party I've voted for in the past.
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I can't work up any enthusiasm for any of the parties , a complete shower of shit all of them .
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 February 2024, 14:11:33
Reform UK for me.
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: Rangie on 09 February 2024, 14:16:52
Reform UK for me.
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They talk a lot of sense but don't think they will get anywhere unfortunately.
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 February 2024, 14:24:45
Even at the last US election I was staggered that Trump and Biden were the best that the good 'ol US of A could come up with.

And now, with a UK general election looming, I ask myself the same question.

It seems that politics has been reduced to having to try and choose from the least bad, not the actual best
That's always been the case, Rog. I don't think I've ever fully supported any party I've voted for in the past.
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I can't work up any enthusiasm for any of the parties , a complete shower of shit all of them .

Agreed. I have nothing but complete and utter contempt for the lot of them.

Reform UK for me.

Yes I think they will get my vote this time round as I don't think I can bring myself to vote for the Tories after the complete and utter shitshow they have presided over.

As they say, if you want change you have to vote for it.  ???

Here's the thing though. If Reform did manage to win the election and form a government, I bet they wouldn't get much past the permastate/blob/establishment and they wouldn't get much done either. :-\


Title: Re: American elections
Post by: STEMO on 09 February 2024, 14:43:25
All a vote for reform will do is ensure Starmer gets in with a working majority.
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 February 2024, 16:53:44
All a vote for reform will do is ensure Starmer gets in with a working majority.
And that simply cannot happen.
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: TheBoy on 09 February 2024, 17:17:13
All a vote for reform will do is ensure Starmer gets in with a working majority.
And that simply cannot happen.
We all know he will be the next PM, unless he oppss up badly between now and then.
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 February 2024, 17:36:52
All a vote for reform will do is ensure Starmer gets in with a working majority.
And that simply cannot happen.
We all know he will be the next PM, unless he oppss up badly between now and then.

Yep and so the Tories deserve to be totally annihilated for what they have done over the last 5 years.  >:(
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 February 2024, 19:07:41
All a vote for reform will do is ensure Starmer gets in with a working majority.
And that simply cannot happen.
We all know he will be the next PM, unless he oppss up badly between now and then.

Yep and so the Tories deserve to be totally annihilated for what they have done over the last 5 years.  >:(
Not disputing that, but SKS is a double shit sandwich with extra shit, and I would rather have the shit and cheese wrap.
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 February 2024, 19:19:40
The Tories are dead in the water. They deserve to lose badly, although the country doesnt deserve Labour in power.
Its going to happen though, and the Tory party needs to either die out completely, or reinvent itself as a genuine conservative and unionist party.
Plenty of votes for Reform, will concentrate the minds of those responsible for rebuilding the Tory party and ensure it goes in the right direction.
There is no point in holding your nose and voting Tory to try and keep Labour out of power.
It just aint going to happen. Its gone way beyond that now.
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: STEMO on 09 February 2024, 20:22:37
The Tories are dead in the water. They deserve to lose badly, although the country doesnt deserve Labour in power.
Its going to happen though, and the Tory party needs to either die out completely, or reinvent itself as a genuine conservative and unionist party.
Plenty of votes for Reform, will concentrate the minds of those responsible for rebuilding the Tory party and ensure it goes in the right direction.
There is no point in holding your nose and voting Tory to try and keep Labour out of power.
It just aint going to happen. Its gone way beyond that now.
I'm afraid if, or when, labour get into office, they'll be there for a very long time. Or at least until we're past caring.
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: TheBoy on 09 February 2024, 20:43:32
The Tories are dead in the water. They deserve to lose badly, although the country doesnt deserve Labour in power.
Its going to happen though, and the Tory party needs to either die out completely, or reinvent itself as a genuine conservative and unionist party.
Plenty of votes for Reform, will concentrate the minds of those responsible for rebuilding the Tory party and ensure it goes in the right direction.
There is no point in holding your nose and voting Tory to try and keep Labour out of power.
It just aint going to happen. Its gone way beyond that now.
Society in the UK, for reasons that sane people can't understand, have all turned leftie.  And half the tories, especially those that artificially won a seat  last time are chasing those leftie-centre votes.  The other (probably smaller) half of the tories remain more to the right.  So, as always when they have been in power for a couple of terms, they have self destructed.

Reform is just a sure way to get Labour in, and that braindead idiot Farage knows it. Moronic self-abuser.
Title: Re: American elections
Post by: STEMO on 09 February 2024, 20:47:34
The Tories are dead in the water. They deserve to lose badly, although the country doesnt deserve Labour in power.
Its going to happen though, and the Tory party needs to either die out completely, or reinvent itself as a genuine conservative and unionist party.
Plenty of votes for Reform, will concentrate the minds of those responsible for rebuilding the Tory party and ensure it goes in the right direction.
There is no point in holding your nose and voting Tory to try and keep Labour out of power.
It just aint going to happen. Its gone way beyond that now.
Society in the UK, for reasons that sane people can't understand, have all turned leftie.  And half the tories, especially those that artificially won a seat  last time are chasing those leftie-centre votes.  The other (probably smaller) half of the tories remain more to the right.  So, as always when they have been in power for a couple of terms, they have self destructed.

Reform is just a sure way to get Labour in, and that braindead idiot Farage knows it. Moronic self-abuser.
He makes a good living from it and gets more air time than Sunak. Can't begrudge a man his wages.