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[tunnie]

I know using a home brew CD-R will knacker the laser, is there anyway to minimise this?

I don't actually own any genuine music CD's, they are all home brew stuff from downloads.

If I burn't a disc at ultra low speed would it make any difference?

[RobG]

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1300229193
 

[tunnie]

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1300229193
 

Of course I knew that was there   

ta 

[RobG]

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1300229193
 

Of course I knew that was there  

ta 

Yeh right

[kcl]

IME discs burnt with very low speeds are better tolerated by these players. Played CD-R's for several years with my past cars' CCR2006 without any issues. Then I got a new computer wich burnt CD's faster and within a few months problems started. I am not 100% sure would older CD-R's started the failure and was finished with newly burnt discs but I suspect that the writing speed does have something to do with this issue.

[blackviper90210]

Dave DND is gonna shoot you Tunnie, when he finds out what your doing to your player!! 

[TheBoy]

I know using a home brew CD-R will knacker the laser, is there anyway to minimise this?

I don't actually own any genuine music CD's, they are all home brew stuff from downloads.

If I burn't a disc at ultra low speed would it make any difference?

You can't any more

The official line remains no CDRs.

You could buy up a decent stock of ccr2006 and cdc3 changers, and resolve your problem that way...

[blackviper90210]

Apologies Tunnie for hi-jacking here...

If we're not to use cdr's in the CDC's, what options other than ripping out all the Bose system and using a compatible player?
I don't want to rip out the current set up either  :-/

[TheBoy]

Apologies Tunnie for hi-jacking here...

If we're not to use cdr's in the CDC's, what options other than ripping out all the Bose system and using a compatible player?
I don't want to rip out the current set up either  :-/

As per every single other thread, if you have Bose, and want to keep it, FM modulator for NCDx, and cassette adapter or fm mod for ccr2006.

Thats it. The End.

[TheBoy]

Apologies Tunnie for hi-jacking here...

If we're not to use cdr's in the CDC's, what options other than ripping out all the Bose system and using a compatible player?
I don't want to rip out the current set up either  :-/

Ah, is yours prefacelift with the 6 disc changer?  If so, much more resilient to CDRs - burn as slow as possible (6x is about slowest media available) and use quality media (Verbatim).  Just don't tell Dave DND

[blackviper90210]

Apologies TB, I've obviously missed the previous threads 

Cheers mate 

[Dave DND]

Just don't tell Dave DND

 

Pointless me replying with anything else as you muppets obviously can`t read what I`ve written already - hey what do I care ! Your lasers, and no more replacement parts when you burn them out !

 

[Dave DND]

Dave DND is gonna shoot you Tunnie, when he finds out what your doing to your player!! 

 

[TheBoy]

Just don't tell Dave DND

 

Pointless me replying with anything else as you muppets obviously can`t read what I`ve written already - hey what do I care ! Your lasers, and no more replacement parts when you burn them out !

 

And I have nearly the entire stock of 2nd hand cdc3s, which I'm slowly destroying

But the CDC2s, they seem indestructable (laser wise)?

[gsizoli]

The CD part (CDCx) is the same in NCDC units and CCRT2008?
Thanks

[TheBoy]

The CD part (CDCx) is the same in NCDC units and CCRT2008?
Thanks

Mostly, vertical board needs to be swapped

[aaronjb]

Apologies Tunnie for hi-jacking here...

If we're not to use cdr's in the CDC's, what options other than ripping out all the Bose system and using a compatible player?
I don't want to rip out the current set up either  :-/

As per every single other thread, if you have Bose, and want to keep it, FM modulator for NCDx, and cassette adapter or fm mod for ccr2006.

Thats it. The End.

Yet I still read these threads, hoping that the answer might change one day 

(Like Tunnie all my music was bought in non-hardcopy form.. and I don't really want an FM modulator. Mind I should probably fix the door speaker first anyway  )

[albitz]

Which door Aaron ? I have Bose rear door (and rear shelf) speakers here.No spare fronts though.

[robbo299]

I have just read this thread and thought i would add that i have downloaded some music onto cd`s that play ok on my unit. Rather than use the standard cd-r cd`s available today, i have used Maxell cd-r XL-1180 (Music) compact disc digital audio cd`s which, i have been told, are easier for the players to read and thus putting less strain on the laser. I only play cd`s occasionaly in my unit while i`m driving and i have had no problems, so far, with tracks skipping etc. May be worth trying some of these. Just a thought and hope it helps.   

[Dave DND]

I have just read this thread and thought i would add that i have downloaded some music onto cd`s that play ok on my unit. Rather than use the standard cd-r cd`s available today, i have used Maxell cd-r XL-1180 (Music) compact disc digital audio cd`s which, i have been told, are easier for the players to read and thus putting less strain on the laser. I only play cd`s occasionaly in my unit while i`m driving and i have had no problems, so far, with tracks skipping etc. May be worth trying some of these. Just a thought and hope it helps.   

And yet another member who just cannot accept that a CD-R is a different format to a CD

 

have a read

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1300229193

 

[tunnie]

for those with Dave's FM modulators, how well do sound? Any noticeable difference between real radio and the modulator?

[Dave DND]

for those with Dave's FM modulators, how well do sound? Any noticeable difference between real radio and the modulator?

The modulators give a fairly good performance, its not as good as listening to a CD, or indeed an MP3 plugged indirectly, as you are relying on the performance of the tuner for the signal. The difference between CD and radio playback is quite noticeable, and I`m not going to pretend otherwise. That said, the modulators will give a performance akin to that of a good strong radio station, and I would say that the difference between radio and modulator is negligable.

But it would be good to hear what the guys using them reckon - there are LOADS! of you using them and feedback so far is very encouraging.

 

[tunnie]

for those with Dave's FM modulators, how well do sound? Any noticeable difference between real radio and the modulator?

The modulators give a fairly good performance, its not as good as listening to a CD, or indeed an MP3 plugged indirectly, as you are relying on the performance of the tuner for the signal. The difference between CD and radio playback is quite noticeable, and I`m not going to pretend otherwise. That said, the modulators will give a performance akin to that of a good strong radio station, and I would say that the difference between radio and modulator is negligable.

But it would be good to hear what the guys using them reckon - there are LOADS! of you using them and feedback so far is very encouraging.

 

Cheers, you might be getting an order for another one very soon 

[zirk]

Been spoken about on here before, but if your handy with a soldering iron feed the MP3 audio in between the CD changer o/p and HU i/p.

Chris.

[tunnie]

Been spoken about on here before, but if your handy with a soldering iron feed the MP3 audio in between the CD changer o/p and HU i/p.

Chris.

Do tell more?

[Dave DND]

Been spoken about on here before, but if your handy with a soldering iron feed the MP3 audio in between the CD changer o/p and HU i/p.

Chris.

Just make sure you put something in line to prevent the higher output of an MP3 player from blowing the hell out of the stereo, as all examples I have seen so far offer nothing to stop you from destroying the stereo.

 

[zirk]

I did one for a friend on his Vectra C some time back, interrupted the ribbon cable, using short screened cable looped it back though a external switch and inline jack socket, used a inline capacitor (just in case any stray DC floating around), and made up a resitive network to keep the i/p imp higher and to soften any quiescent noises from the MP3 player (or in He's case Gaypod).

Worked quiet well, only down side was you have to play a CD for it to work.

Think if I was to do it again, would try and work it all within the HU itself but not much room in there.

Chris.   

[Dave DND]

Just to throw a thought in, and something I`ve never tried, but some of Blaupunkt / Holden stereos fitted to the Australian vehicles of around the same vintage also had 3.5mm jack sockets on the front.

Never tried plugging one into a Vauxhall display, but see no reason why it shouldn`t work - same car after all

 :-?


Blaupunkt 420 as fitted to Holden Astra ? (Single Din)

http://www.dndservices.co.uk/product.php?productid=6545&cat=0&page=1

 :-?

[zirk]

Wont work Dave, its go no Bose label on it.

 

[Dave DND]

Wont work Dave, its go no Bose label on it.

 

Ah! Now thats where you may be wrong !!

These older models have the old fasioned carbon/ceramic styled rotary volume switches which mean that you have full control of the output levels at low levels. Not ideal, but they do seem to work fairly well with BOSE.

It is the later style radios with the volume knob that "Clicks" as you turn it that causes the problems, as the "digital" output steps are in too great an increment for the Bose amp to interpret correctly.

If you could find an aftermarket stereo that had an old fasioned ceramic volume control, then you would find a fairly successfull solution to the whole BOSE problem.

Me, not seen one for years !

 

[zirk]

Wont work Dave, its go no Bose label on it.

 

Ah! Now thats where you may be wrong !!

These older models have the old fasioned carbon/ceramic styled rotary volume switches which mean that you have full control of the output levels at low levels. Not ideal, but they do seem to work fairly well with BOSE.

It is the later style radios with the volume knob that "Clicks" as you turn it that causes the problems, as the "digital" output steps are in too great an increment for the Bose amp to interpret correctly.

If you could find an aftermarket stereo that had an old fasioned ceramic volume control, then you would find a fairly successfull solution to the whole BOSE problem.

Me, not seen one for years !

 

I only really remember them, and a can of switch cleaner for when they go noisy.

Im getting on a bit now! 

[Dave DND]

I only really remember them, and a can of switch cleaner for when they go noisy.

Yep, thats the ones - dissappeared when detachable fascias came in.

But if you could find one, I reckon it may work

 :-/

[TheBoy]

for those with Dave's FM modulators, how well do sound? Any noticeable difference between real radio and the modulator?

On a par with the Uphill Gardener (Harmon Kardon) hardwired modulators. Obviously the HK offers the full gayPod thing, but seem to be fragile.  Ask Gayboy Gixer for a demo when you see him.

I have one of Dave DND's, works well enough for my needs, though its clunky to change frequency (dip switches), and poor range of frequencies.  That said, works suprisingly well.

iTrips (for gayPods only, iPhone is piss poor as an MP3 player) also work, but not as well as Dave DND's or HK

[tunnie]

for those with Dave's FM modulators, how well do sound? Any noticeable difference between real radio and the modulator?

On a par with the Uphill Gardener (Harmon Kardon) hardwired modulators. Obviously the HK offers the full gayPod thing, but seem to be fragile.  Ask Gayboy Gixer for a demo when you see him.

I have one of Dave DND's, works well enough for my needs, though its clunky to change frequency (dip switches), and poor range of frequencies.  That said, works suprisingly well.

iTrips (for gayPods only, iPhone is piss poor as an MP3 player) also work, but not as well as Dave DND's or HK

Think i'll do just that 

[aaronjb]

Which door Aaron ? I have Bose rear door (and rear shelf) speakers here.No spare fronts though.

Front driver's door, sadly!

[tunnie]

Which door Aaron ? I have Bose rear door (and rear shelf) speakers here.No spare fronts though.

Is the rear shelf black? Does it have the blind?

[Shimmy]

Has someone installed DND's modulator and posted a guide for it?  I've never wired anything directly to the car, I'd also like ideas of where to neatly install the modulator.  I have a NCDC 2015 if that helps.

[albitz]

Which door Aaron ? I have Bose rear door (and rear shelf) speakers here.No spare fronts though.

Is the rear shelf black? Does it have the blind?

It does have the blind, but its grey.

[Dave DND]

Has someone installed DND's modulator and posted a guide for it?  I've never wired anything directly to the car, I'd also like ideas of where to neatly install the modulator.  I have a NCDC 2015 if that helps.

Guide not really needed as its so simple to fit.

RCA Cable from Modulator to MP3 player - self explanitory

Earth wire - self explanitory

Aerial lead - doesn`t connect to anything

+12V on a switch so you can turn the modulator off and listen to radio

Mount it somewhere in the car - thats it !!

As far as frequency tuning etc, there are some instructions in the box - but basically you can alter the output frequency using dip switches if it causes any harmonics with one of your favourite local stations.

Any questions, all you have to do is ask

http://www.dndservices.co.uk/am-88t.html

 

[Weds]

Has someone installed DND's modulator and posted a guide for it?  I've never wired anything directly to the car, I'd also like ideas of where to neatly install the modulator.  I have a NCDC 2015 if that helps.

Mine was just plugged into the rear lighter socket and left sat on the rear floor for quite a time till I got the frequency about right, now its in the arm rest slid down beside the handbrake lever and wired into the lighter socket. My ipod now lives in the small recess underneath the armrest where the rubber joke cup holder was. 

[Shimmy]

Cheers Dave DND, think I'll buy one of those now.  Already have the correct RCA to 3.5mm cable.

That setup sounds ideal Weds, could I just wire the +12V to a ciggy lighter? 

[tunnie]

Which door Aaron ? I have Bose rear door (and rear shelf) speakers here.No spare fronts though.

Is the rear shelf black? Does it have the blind?

It does have the blind, but its grey.

D'oh!

[albitz]

I can throw in a can of matt black spray paint.

[Weds]

Cheers Dave DND, think I'll buy one of those now.  Already have the correct RCA to 3.5mm cable.

That setup sounds ideal Weds, could I just wire the +12V to a ciggy lighter? 

Thats all I've done, the cables a bit tight in there but I've just spliced it in.

[TheBoy]

My FM mod I run via ciggy lighter

Tunnie, no such thing as black blind

[RobG]

My FM mod I run via ciggy lighter

Tunnie, no such thing as black blind

I think "the student" may mean black shelf. But he does possess a curious thought wavelength

[TheBoy]

My FM mod I run via ciggy lighter

Tunnie, no such thing as black blind

I think "the student" may mean black shelf. But he does possess a curious thought wavelength

That's not black either, it's a dark grey

[Shimmy]

Received and installed my FM modulator from DND Dave today.

Works a treat, no static and much better quality than the chinese tat.  Only downside I found was that the volume output was a bit low, need to wack up the stereo volume to compensate.  Easy enough.

[VXL V6]

My FM mod I run via ciggy lighter

Tunnie, no such thing as black blind

I think "the student" may mean black shelf. But he does possess a curious thought wavelength

That's not black either, it's a dark grey

Prefacelift shelves are closer to black than facelift ones that are classed as Anthracite.

 

[TheBoy]

My FM mod I run via ciggy lighter

Tunnie, no such thing as black blind

I think "the student" may mean black shelf. But he does possess a curious thought wavelength

That's not black either, it's a dark grey

Prefacelift shelves are closer to black than facelift ones that are classed as Anthracite.

 

Not noticed the difference TBH.  I have both TBE's and Silver Bullet's in garage, both look same to me..

[VXL V6]

The one I have in the Silver Slug is the one from Vader and it's darker than the one I have in the V6.

[tunnie]

My FM mod I run via ciggy lighter

Tunnie, no such thing as black blind

I think "the student" may mean black shelf. But he does possess a curious thought wavelength

That's not black either, it's a dark grey

Prefacelift shelves are closer to black than facelift ones that are classed as Anthracite.

 

What is this, changing rooms with fancy colours? Its either cream, grey or black?  :-? 

[Dave DND]

Received and installed my FM modulator from DND Dave today.

Works a treat, no static and much better quality than the chinese tat.  Only downside I found was that the volume output was a bit low, need to wack up the stereo volume to compensate.  Easy enough.

You could always experiment with turning up the volume a little on the MP3 device

 

[Shimmy]

Received and installed my FM modulator from DND Dave today.

Works a treat, no static and much better quality than the chinese tat.  Only downside I found was that the volume output was a bit low, need to wack up the stereo volume to compensate.  Easy enough.

You could always experiment with turning up the volume a little on the MP3 device

 

I'm not that dim, it's on max!

[Dave DND]

Received and installed my FM modulator from DND Dave today.

Works a treat, no static and much better quality than the chinese tat.  Only downside I found was that the volume output was a bit low, need to wack up the stereo volume to compensate.  Easy enough.

You could always experiment with turning up the volume a little on the MP3 device

 

I'm not that dim, it's on max!

 

I have noticed that some iPods are getting a little lower on their output levels, and I think it something to do with the settings that "Balance" out the audio signals of the music that has been recorded so that they all play at the same levels - I might do a bit more investigating into that one.

[tunnie]

Received and installed my FM modulator from DND Dave today.

Works a treat, no static and much better quality than the chinese tat.  Only downside I found was that the volume output was a bit low, need to wack up the stereo volume to compensate.  Easy enough.

You could always experiment with turning up the volume a little on the MP3 device

 

I'm not that dim, it's on max!

Out of interest, where did you mount your modulator?

[Shimmy]

 

I have noticed that some iPods are getting a little lower on their output levels, and I think it something to do with the settings that "Balance" out the audio signals of the music that has been recorded so that they all play at the same levels - I might do a bit more investigating into that one.

Don't have an ipod, using a creative zen which is a few years old.

Out of interest, where did you mount your modulator?

Used the +12v feed and earth of the rear ciggy lighter, the modulator's on the floor behind the drivers seat.  Can't really think of a better place for it atm, if it was a bit smaller it would have been perfect underneath the armrest where the cupholder insert it.  Might see if I can somehow squeeze it in there later, would look tidier there with no exposed wires.

[tmx]

make sure the graphic equaliser is set to none on iphone/ipod Settings>Ipod>Equalizer>None

[feeutfo]

I like the HK drive and play as it controls the iPod as well via dash mounted screen,  or where ever you want to install it, and control wheel, by the and brake in my case.
 It charges this particular iPod.3rd gen. but is too old to work with my iPhone4. But that's fine as I don't want to have to plug the phone into anything other than a charger when get in and out if the car, or have a cable hanging out the dash, and I have the older iPod that can stay in the car anyway.

Sound, all tracks when played have a slight hiss/squeak/warble/radio static type noise that settles down go a lower pitch and is then drowned out by the music almost completely. TB reckoned this is almost exactly the same as his Dnd one.  There is no improvement go be had over this as it's hard wired to the fm plug on the back of the radio connector on the cage. .....although I wonder if it could be soldered into the cd function of the nav slot as TB suggested....? One for another day perhaps.

In all honesty I find the sound perfectly acceptable and now rarely listen to anything else. Easy to use, and find I rarely need to re tune, although that a very simple process anyway as there is no limit on frequencys via custom setting.

Only thing is, they do seem prone to damage from spikes in power input or something. Even with a fuse. TB wil know way more about that than me of course.

[feeutfo]

... Now if I could just update the iPod without loosing the music on it that would be great. (it's original iTunes was lost as iTunes killed the pc it was on)

[MaxV6]

if you bought the music thru itunes, then shouldn't be a problem chris...   log in to itunes store as the original user for when you bought all the music...

the only losses will be stuff you ripped from cd, or downloaded "otherwise"


the record of purchases is held on their servers,  so anything you bought, you will be able to re-acquire from the itunes store without having to pay again.

[TheBoy]

if you bought the music thru itunes, then shouldn't be a problem chris...   log in to itunes store as the original user for when you bought all the music...

the only losses will be stuff you ripped from cd, or downloaded "otherwise"


the record of purchases is held on their servers,  so anything you bought, you will be able to re-acquire from the itunes store without having to pay again.

Thats the theory, doesn't always work. Even after you argue with Job's idiots, and they agree you bought it, it still screws you over.

Needless to say, iTunes is used as little as possible now.

[MaxV6]

Fairy nuff , never given me any trouble , but then I'm a good little apple fanboy