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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: danzigfan on 17 July 2017, 17:41:42
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Hi guys, I'm in the middle of this "nice afternoon job".....not >:( and I wonder how the h..l do I remove abs ecu connector from the unit?
I don't want to force it...there has to be a way.
I'd be happy if someone can help me.
TID Stan
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Pull purple tab out about an inch, then lift connector up.
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There was to much of cam cover leak for to long to find even a trace of purple on it... :-X :D
I'll try anyway, thanks :y
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Cant remember if purple bit is left or right of connector now. But its a large plastic tab that moves sideways :)
If you're still stuck when I get out of the bath, I'll go take a pic of one I have in the garage.
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Cant remember if purple bit is left or right of connector now. But its a large plastic tab that moves sideways :)
If you're still stuck when I get out of the bath, I'll go take a pic of one I have in the garage.
It pulls towards the centre of the car. It moves a lot further than you would expect. And access is almost as bad as the rudder post clamp on an Islander(guess what I did this morning?)
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Fount it! :y It's on the right side and pulls to the wheel arch...thanks guys
And I'm off to put a bag of coins into my swear box :-X
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Yep, I replaced the ABS ECU a few weeks ago and still living well of my Swear Box proceeds ;D
I found shifting the battery out helped, as could get left hand in better and attack it from the side whilst reaching straight down with right.
Skin now starting to appear back on my arms and knuckles.
Hope you sort it :y
Andy.
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Don't even mention it :-X ;D I managed to undo four screws in two hours, then I put everything back together (with only two bottom screws left) because it's almost night outside now...I need the car for work and I'll proceed tomorrow. Hopefully I'll get it out, then I plan to fix it myself.
No companies here to repair the unit for acceptable price really. They would butcher my wallet to death ;D
Fortune favours the brave they say...we'll see
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Really look forward to seeing how you get on with the repair :y
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I'd like to meet the person who designed the ABS ecu and it's location and punch him square in the face, same to the pratt who stuck the DIS pack down the back of the engine on early V6's >:( ;D
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I'd like to meet the person who designed the ABS ecu and it's location and punch him square in the face, same to the pratt who stuck the DIS pack down the back of the engine on early V6's >:( ;D
those are annoying, but many Omegas were scrapped with their original ABS ecus.
The people who really deserve a kicking are the oppswits who put the engine wiring loom over the spark plugs, the suspension so maintenance unfriendly or the cam timing so complex.
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Cant remember if purple bit is left or right of connector now. But its a large plastic tab that moves sideways :)
If you're still stuck when I get out of the bath, I'll go take a pic of one I have in the garage.
It pulls towards the centre of the car. It moves a lot further than you would expect. And access is almost as bad as the rudder post clamp on an Islander(guess what I did this morning?)
Pah, change the space heater on a Beverley or the gun scavenge system on a Mk1 Javelin if you want awkward. ::)
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There are two silver wires up in the middle of the pic, they seem to be broken where they touch the circuit board..at least it seems so....so freaking small
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When I try to solder those wires, soldering wire doesn't stick to it at all....so now I'm at the point of no return :-\ :'(
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Somehow it worked but it looks like a mess...Going to put it back together now...I don't have high hopes for this :-\
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Cant remember if purple bit is left or right of connector now. But its a large plastic tab that moves sideways :)
If you're still stuck when I get out of the bath, I'll go take a pic of one I have in the garage.
It pulls towards the centre of the car. It moves a lot further than you would expect. And access is almost as bad as the rudder post clamp on an Islander(guess what I did this morning?)
Pah, change the space heater on a Beverley or the gun scavenge system on a Mk1 Javelin if you want awkward. ::)
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Try changing a cabin pressure controller on a Lightning with the seat in ;) ;D
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I need to inform you that my "repair" didn't work...still has TC and ABS lights on and no speedo.
As to addittion to all the joy I can now hear power steering pump like never before. All I did was remove PSP fluid bottle, drained the oil and put it back...What did I screw up this time? :'(
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The people who really deserve a kicking are the oppswits who put the engine wiring loom over the spark plugs, the suspension so maintenance unfriendly or the cam timing so complex.
All of these are just simple jobs, why are you getting your knickers in a twist over it? Its about 20mins to change all 6 spark plugs, including tea. Whats wrong with the suspension, its probably far too simple TBH, and I've seen a cambelt done in 45mins before (always takes me nearer an hour).
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I need to inform you that my "repair" didn't work...still has TC and ABS lights on and no speedo.
As to addittion to all the joy I can now hear power steering pump like never before. All I did was remove PSP fluid bottle, drained the oil and put it back...What did I screw up this time? :'(
. it is very difficult to repair those wires .they are the usual failure point and they are aluminium so you need a suitable solder and flux. its possible to solder copper wire to the copper tabs but joining to the others is where the problem arises.plus when you push the sticky goo out of the way its possible to break the very fine golden wires.they are extremely thin.there are places that refurb these units around the world. bba to name one in the uk .or you could try source a replacement unit. if yours is a 2.5 then a 3.0 unit is the same but you need to match wether its auto or manual.
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So the last chance for my omega is a abs ecu from 2.5/3.0 manual? Any other restrictions? Ebay should be my friend here...
And please...does anyone know why my power stearing is making weird noises now?....
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someone will correct me if im wrong but as far as i know turning steering from one extreme to the other a couple of times should bleed it ,if thats whats causing the noise. cant remember if the box has a bleed srew on or not ?
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The people who really deserve a kicking are the oppswits who put the engine wiring loom over the spark plugs, the suspension so maintenance unfriendly or the cam timing so complex.
All of these are just simple jobs, why are you getting your knickers in a twist over it? Its about 20mins to change all 6 spark plugs, including tea. Whats wrong with the suspension, its probably far too simple TBH, and I've seen a cambelt done in 45mins before (always takes me nearer an hour).
They are simple jobs, but some thought at the design stage would have made them even simpler: moving the engine wiring loom a few mm up or down the cam cover would have made changing the passenger side sparkplugs as easy as the drivers; non-adjustable camber would have eliminated the need to setup the front suspension so often; the cam timing tools are effective, but are far more complicated than necessary. I could go on but making scheduled, frequent maintenance free of built in snags ought to be a priority.
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Cant remember if purple bit is left or right of connector now. But its a large plastic tab that moves sideways :)
If you're still stuck when I get out of the bath, I'll go take a pic of one I have in the garage.
It pulls towards the centre of the car. It moves a lot further than you would expect. And access is almost as bad as the rudder post clamp on an Islander(guess what I did this morning?)
Pah, change the space heater on a Beverley or the gun scavenge system on a Mk1 Javelin if you want awkward. ::)
I believe the lightning was a bit of a pig to work on too, upside done in the cockpit footwell particularly !
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The people who really deserve a kicking are the oppswits who put the engine wiring loom over the spark plugs, the suspension so maintenance unfriendly or the cam timing so complex.
All of these are just simple jobs, why are you getting your knickers in a twist over it? Its about 20mins to change all 6 spark plugs, including tea. Whats wrong with the suspension, its probably far too simple TBH, and I've seen a cambelt done in 45mins before (always takes me nearer an hour).
They are simple jobs, but some thought at the design stage would have made them even simpler: moving the engine wiring loom a few mm up or down the cam cover would have made changing the passenger side sparkplugs as easy as the drivers; non-adjustable camber would have eliminated the need to setup the front suspension so often; the cam timing tools are effective, but are far more complicated than necessary. I could go on but making scheduled, frequent maintenance free of built in snags ought to be a priority.
I'd definitely disagree with the camber. I find the other bits a non issue personally. But the oil filter could be better positioned (but the downside of using a FWD engine in RWD). And a block coolant drain would be nice.
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Cant remember if purple bit is left or right of connector now. But its a large plastic tab that moves sideways :)
If you're still stuck when I get out of the bath, I'll go take a pic of one I have in the garage.
It pulls towards the centre of the car. It moves a lot further than you would expect. And access is almost as bad as the rudder post clamp on an Islander(guess what I did this morning?)
Pah, change the space heater on a Beverley or the gun scavenge system on a Mk1 Javelin if you want awkward. ::)
I believe the lightning was a bit of a pig to work on too, upside done in the cockpit footwell particularly !
See post 16 ::) ;D
Its sat nicely behind the rudder pedal box and the plug has to be wirelocked :'( :'(
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http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-ABS-PUMP-ECU-MODUAL-DX-09-127-952-0-273-004-206-/232406590592?nav=SEARCH
I've found an ABS unit with the same part number as mine. I just need to contact seller and ask him if he could send it to me, because he sells this item "UK ONLY"...it doesn't say what engine/ model it came from ...Would that be plug and play or will it neet a chat with tech2?
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I have a few abs ecu's and am pretty sure one will be from a manual V6 , I'll check later as I'm happy to send
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That would be nice :y I just hope it will be plug and play.
Oh and by the way, I went to buy some ATF for servo pump - now it's all quiet as it was and I just noticed that after my "repair" of ABS ecu speedo works again :o :D...It's much easier to drive if I'm not afraid of breaking the speed limit like before
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if speedo now works it sounds like your repair itself was successfull in re joining the silver wires but you may have snapped a gold wire. they are so fine they break when you move the gooo out of the way.
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I think you're right. They are so thin it's almost impossible not to damage them the moment you try to move the gel
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when you get your replacement you can give it an initial test by just plugging it in to see if the lights go out .easier than fitting it to the valve block and then finding out it doesnt.
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Helpfull advice, thanks :y
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Sorry pal I seem to have cornered the market in the ones ending in 207 , none that I have are 206 :'(
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Thanks anyway, it was nice of you, thank you for your effort :y
I'll try to contact seller from ebay link to see if he would be willing to send it abroad. It that doesn't work out....well, omega os taxed and roadworthy till March....Then it will sadly have to go :-\
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If he won't send it to you get him to send it to me and I'll forward it to you, might cost a a bit more for you but I'm happy to do it
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We'll be in touch, thanks :y
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I apologize for bringing this up again but I have a question again.
Would pre or mini F/L 2.5 V6 abs ecu fit on mine F/L ? I've one just literary 200 yards away at local garage backyard, it's a 2.5 v6, most probably manual and can try to stop there to see if it's in working order
And yes... It's ment to parts ::)
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Yes, worth a try, and if it doesn't work you can send it away for repair :y
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Monday after work then 8) :y Thanks!
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It MUST be post 1998, and off a V6. If its the wrong engine/gearbox, that can be reprogrammed to match via Tech2, but if its pre 1998, or not for V6, the hardware is wrong.
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So at least miniF/L then
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So at least miniF/L then
Yup. And V6.
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It is a V6, but picture is taken from behind, so all I can see is it's an estate...
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http://www.avto.net/Ads/details.asp?id=11744361&display=Opel Omega Caravan CD 2.5i V6-24V
Nah....it's 1996...I won't even take a look
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http://www.avto.net/Ads/details.asp?id=11744361&display=Opel Omega Caravan CD 2.5i V6-24V
Nah....it's 1996...I won't even take a look
Pre 1998 is only a 3 channel system (both rear wheels controlled together), 1998 onwards is full 4 channel system (each wheel independent).
That's why it wouldn't work.
Additionally, the V6 has Traction Control, which has additional valves, hence the V6 ones (both 3 channel and 4 channel) are different to their respective era non V6 (thus no TC) ones.
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Thanks TB, who knows what sort of parts would I buy if there wasn't for this forum :-[
So I guess it's time to slowly find a replacement for my omega...I wish there was another but doesn't look good.
Well, maybe I'll find an abs ecu....who knows :-\
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Have you tried Steve at Omega Spare Parts? He dosn't appear to have on on his site but if he knows you need one.... Dosn't hurt to ask. ;)
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/OmegaSpareParts-Call-0770-6495877/_i.html?_nkw=vauxhall+omega+abs+ecu&submit=Search&LH_TitleDesc=1&_sid=457771093
http://omegaspareparts.com/
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Have you tried Steve at Omega Spare Parts? He dosn't appear to have on on his site but if he knows you need one.... Dosn't hurt to ask. ;)
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/OmegaSpareParts-Call-0770-6495877/_i.html?_nkw=vauxhall+omega+abs+ecu&submit=Search&LH_TitleDesc=1&_sid=457771093
http://omegaspareparts.com/
Seconded :y He certainly wouldn't let a little detail like postage get in the way. ::)
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Email sent :y Thanks