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[Mr Skrunts]

Never used one - Dont know anyone that has one.

Picked this one  at random as an example.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-emt300-qc-300w-electric-multi-tool-kit-230-240v/804pp

Are they worth it?
Gearbox speed - does the higher speed perform better?

Mains v cordless.
Attachments - Which brand fairs better for reliability/durability.

T.I.A.

[TheBoy]

Borrowed one. Bit shit. Never felt the need to buy one over tools more capable of doing the same thing.

[YZ250]

I’ve used and abused my Bosch PMF190E for quite a few years. It has its uses like any other tool, cutting through plastic pipe where a hacksaw won’t fit, trimming wood where access with a saw is otherwise impossible etc.  I’ve never used it as a sander though as the small footprint of sandpaper would quickly clog up in my view.
I’ve never bought any new blades for mine, I just use a square file to file new teeth on the blades.    If you hit a nail or metal it blunts the blade quickly.

[Allenm]

I have the one you linked, it is good enough for most things that they do.

Had a bosch mains one before, and the cordless is just as good.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I have a Parkside mains multitool from Lidl, and it's fine for occasional DIY use. 

[Mr Skrunts]

I have been looking at the Ryobi range, they have one with a pivoting head, considering that as I allready have batterys and a charger of thiers.

Just keeping an eye open for one on offer.  £130 @ Ryobi, £99 on Amazon at the moment.  No rush though.

I was looking for the kit I think they used to sell.  Storage/workbench where the base  utilises all the tools, not sure if it was any good, but would be ideal for the little hobby jobs.

[Viral_Jim]

I find mine really useful when a) access is tight or b) using it in a room that's already decorated due to the comparatively low levels of dust they produce.

I have a Makita one, but only because I already had the batteries. The only negative thing I have to say about them is the noise they make. Won't make you popular with anyone else in the house!

[YZ250]

I find mine really useful when a) access is tight or b) using it in a room that's already decorated due to the comparatively low levels of dust they produce.

I have a Makita one, but only because I already had the batteries. The only negative thing I have to say about them is the noise they make. Won't make you popular with anyone else in the house!

I used mine today to do an undercut on a piece of wood trim. I was outside and it was still noisy. Definitely an ear defender job.    I really must buy some new blades, instead of filing new teeth on them. 

[TheBoy]

I find mine really useful when a) access is tight or b) using it in a room that's already decorated due to the comparatively low levels of dust they produce.

I have a Makita one, but only because I already had the batteries. The only negative thing I have to say about them is the noise they make. Won't make you popular with anyone else in the house!

I used mine today to do an undercut on a piece of wood trim. I was outside and it was still noisy. Definitely an ear defender job.    I really must buy some new blades, instead of filing new teeth on them. 

Too late, you've already buggered your hearing at the factory!

[YZ250]

I find mine really useful when a) access is tight or b) using it in a room that's already decorated due to the comparatively low levels of dust they produce.

I have a Makita one, but only because I already had the batteries. The only negative thing I have to say about them is the noise they make. Won't make you popular with anyone else in the house!

I used mine today to do an undercut on a piece of wood trim. I was outside and it was still noisy. Definitely an ear defender job.    I really must buy some new blades, instead of filing new teeth on them. 

Too late, you've already buggered your hearing at the factory!

 
I wear hearing aids now but when I put ear defenders on when using the chainsaw/circular saw etc. it causes the hearing aids to whistle, so I have to remove the hearing aids and go back to being deaf. 

[Andy B]

...., so I have to remove the hearing aids and go back to being deaf. 

PARDON! 

sorry  ... had to be done 

[YZ250]

...., so I have to remove the hearing aids and go back to being deaf. 

PARDON! 

sorry  ... had to be done 

 
I’m getting forgetful as well. I bought a new Mikita 4” Angle Grinder the other day as my my 9” was too big  for the job I was doing. When I’d finished using it I put it on my tool shelf in the garage ……… next to the new, unused Mikita 4” Angle Grinder that I’d bought six months ago.    Still, my son will be happy as he might as well have one of them. 

[Mr Skrunts]

...., so I have to remove the hearing aids and go back to being deaf. 

PARDON! 

sorry  ... had to be done 

 
I’m getting forgetful as well. I bought a new Mikita 4” Angle Grinder the other day as my my 9” was too big  for the job I was doing. When I’d finished using it I put it on my tool shelf in the garage ……… next to the new, unused Mikita 4” Angle Grinder that I’d bought six months ago.    Still, my son will be happy as he might as well have one of them. 

It must be an age thing.  My 9" is dual speed

No idea where it is either, It's a 2 speed Sealey from the days when I was valleting cars.   

[STEMO]

...., so I have to remove the hearing aids and go back to being deaf. 

PARDON! 

sorry  ... had to be done 

 
I’m getting forgetful as well. I bought a new Mikita 4” Angle Grinder the other day as my my 9” was too big  for the job I was doing. When I’d finished using it I put it on my tool shelf in the garage ……… next to the new, unused Mikita 4” Angle Grinder that I’d bought six months ago.    Still, my son will be happy as he might as well have one of them. 

At least yours was six months apart. On Thursday morning I decided I fancied a bacon and egg buttie for my lunch. I knew I had bacon so I called in the coop on my way home and bought six eggs. Life happened and I didn't get to have the bacon and egg buttie. On Friday I thought I'd have the bacon and egg buttie I didn't have on Thursday so, on the way home I called into the coop..................

[Mr Skrunts]

Talking tools  I have been having a big sort out, it's amazing the things that we buy/collect/forget about.

I bought the Multi tool, assembled it and had a go with it today, only tried the various speeds on some large pieces of cardbord that needed resizing for the bin.  As mentioned before I need to aquire some ear plugs and might as well het a dust mask in the process.

But found a Worx 4" saw that I bought to modifty a TV cabinet. 
Small Delta sander.
Mini Dremel type grinder tool kit.
Soldering Iron/Station
Glue gun
Electric stapler/nail gun.

The intentions are good

The list of stuff to fix is just as bad.

Dysan motor to clutch belt deffo needs sorting, just a large piece of junk sat in the corner at the moment but a far better vac the Shark that was going to replace it.

[dave the builder]

Dysan motor to clutch belt deffo needs sorting, just a large piece of junk sat in the corner at the moment but a far better vac the Shark that was going to replace it.

well worth keeping a CORDED Dyson going 
parts are east to get ,and relatively easy to replace

Unlike the Shark offerings , no parts available and deliberately designed to stop DIY repair 

i've still got 2 DC03s ,2 DC04s ,1 DC07 (20 years old ,still sucks like a $5 hooker)   and 2 DC14s

[STEMO]

7 vacuum cleaners, have you thought about therapy?

[dave the builder]

7 vacuum cleaners, have you thought about therapy?

7 Dysons ,I didn't mention the wet vacs i have   

[Mr Skrunts]

Dysan motor to clutch belt deffo needs sorting, just a large piece of junk sat in the corner at the moment but a far better vac the Shark that was going to replace it.

well worth keeping a CORDED Dyson going 
parts are east to get ,and relatively easy to replace

Unlike the Shark offerings , no parts available and deliberately designed to stop DIY repair 

i've still got 2 DC03s ,2 DC04s ,1 DC07 (20 years old ,still sucks like a $5 hooker)   and 2 DC14s

Totally agree  Mine is the DC07 Animal far supperior to the Shark I bought.

I also have Bissel Pro Heat 2x
and in the shed there is the little orange vax somewhere.

then I have the 18v Ryobi that I got as part of a starter kit.
Also a 240v handy vac that was bought for the car.

oh and I just bought a USB mini vac that can be reversed to blow, idel for cleaning fins on CPU coolers etc.

Over to STEMO for some of his pearls of wisdom (Usual sarky comments ) 

[Sir Tigger KC]

7 vacuum cleaners, have you thought about therapy?

Forget about the vacuum cleaners. He knows all about $5 hookers!  That' far more interesting! 

[dave the builder]

I lust use a DC02 with a nozzle plus a horse hair (no static) paint brush for clearing "unwantables" from computers etc
(hepa filter means you don't breathe the dust etc ) 

got DCO3 and DC02 mixed up  i've 2 x DC02 drag along ones , NOT DC03s

[dave the builder]

7 vacuum cleaners, have you thought about therapy?

Forget about the vacuum cleaners. He knows all about $5 hookers!  That' far more interesting! 

That was a while ago 
not $5 now , with inflation etc 

[TheBoy]

My DC04 in the garage is starting to show its age, Its reached a stage where it needs lots of bits methinks.  That said, it only gets used now for car and the the garage bench and floor...

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Which is about all a Dyson is fit for. They are the perfect example of marketing over quality. 

[STEMO]

I got fed up with all the high end vacuums, never seem to stay in good condition for very long. I've now got a Henry. A bit awkward to cart around the house, but it will pick up anything, including stones/leaves from my bit of artificial grass out the back. Nothing to go wrong, really, and the HUGE bags are about £1 each in Argos.

[STEMO]

Dysan motor to clutch belt deffo needs sorting, just a large piece of junk sat in the corner at the moment but a far better vac the Shark that was going to replace it.

well worth keeping a CORDED Dyson going 
parts are east to get ,and relatively easy to replace

Unlike the Shark offerings , no parts available and deliberately designed to stop DIY repair 

i've still got 2 DC03s ,2 DC04s ,1 DC07 (20 years old ,still sucks like a $5 hooker)   and 2 DC14s

Totally agree  Mine is the DC07 Animal far supperior to the Shark I bought.

I also have Bissel Pro Heat 2x
and in the shed there is the little orange vax somewhere.

then I have the 18v Ryobi that I got as part of a starter kit.
Also a 240v handy vac that was bought for the car.

oh and I just bought a USB mini vac that can be reversed to blow, idel for cleaning fins on CPU coolers etc.

Over to STEMO for some of his pearls of wisdom (Usual sarky comments ) 

I don't have to post sarky comments in reply to most of your posts, Skruntie, you do a pretty good job of cocking it up yourself 

[TheBoy]

Which is about all a Dyson is fit for. They are the perfect example of marketing over quality. 

There is a perfectly good reason why tool hire shops hire out Dyson vacuums.  And it ain't marketing

[dave the builder]

Which is about all a Dyson is fit for. They are the perfect example of marketing over quality. 

Are you saying Dysons suck 

that's their job 

for sub £50 ,you can replace the motor, brush bar, belt , both filters in an hour on DC02 , DC04 ,DC07 or DC14

I don't know about the newer models  as my old ones WORK 

I wouldn't by a battery "hoover" ,much like an electric car .I'd get "range anxiety" 

[Doctor Gollum]

Which is about all a Dyson is fit for. They are the perfect example of marketing over quality. 

There is a perfectly good reason why tool hire shops hire out Dyson vacuums.  And it ain't marketing

Kick backs, tax write offs and consumer preference based on, er, marketing 

[dave the builder]

Which is about all a Dyson is fit for. They are the perfect example of marketing over quality. 

There is a perfectly good reason why tool hire shops hire out Dyson vacuums.  And it ain't marketing

Kick backs, tax write offs and consumer preference based on, er, marketing 

you can only  write off 25% P/A on "plant and machinery" IIRC
any "hoover" that lasts 4 years  in a hire scenario is doing well 
 

[Mr Skrunts]

Which is about all a Dyson is fit for. They are the perfect example of marketing over quality. 

Are you saying Dysons suck 

that's their job 

for sub £50 ,you can replace the motor, brush bar, belt , both filters in an hour on DC02 , DC04 ,DC07 or DC14

I don't know about the newer models  as my old ones WORK 

I wouldn't by a battery "hoover" ,much like an electric car .I'd get "range anxiety" 

I only bought the Shark because the only Dysons available were cordless and thier call centre was usless.

[dave the builder]

I only bought the Shark because the only Dysons available were cordless and thier call centre was usless.

It's to "save the planet" 
appliances must be low wattage ,so small motors , so cordless for convenience 

the fact is that the batteries die, the new "hoovers" have been designed to be non DIY serviceable  ,must get the newest one from the TV advert etc

so ,most will go to landfill once the warranty runs out

unlike a corded 20 year old Dyson that sucks 

all adds to "global warming " which is nice  saves having to put the heating on 

[biggriffin]

Hoovers,, buy a Henry.  Look at Professional cleaners use, they won't use Dyson or Shark it's either a Henry or some German make.

[Mr Skrunts]

Hoovers,, buy a Henry.  Look at Professional cleaners use, they won't use Dyson or Shark it's either a Henry or some German make.

Henry and the Numatic Range of wet/dry vacs was our choice when I had a valeting company in the 90s.  They were easily draged around in any direction, easy to empty and keep clean.

Only thing that ever went wrong was a burnt out motor that was easy to replace or the tools got damaned by one of the muppets. lads

The main thing is they were competivly priced.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Hoovers,, buy a Henry.  Look at Professional cleaners use, they won't use Dyson or Shark it's either a Henry or some German make.

Henry and the Numatic Range of wet/dry vacs was our choice when I had a valeting company in the 90s.  They were easily draged around in any direction, easy to empty and keep clean.

Only thing that ever went wrong was a burnt out motor that was easy to replace or the tools got damaned by one of the muppets. lads

The main thing is they were competivly priced.

Made in England as well! 

Unlike other brands they haven't outsourced their manufacturing to China. The Numatic factory is in Chard, Somerset. 

[dave the builder]

Hoovers,, buy a Henry.  Look at Professional cleaners use, they won't use Dyson or Shark it's either a Henry or some German make.

Henrys have their place 
but they are drag along , so no rotating brush bar for carpet,ok for hard floors.
 bags are a faf and suction is reduced when bags clog,
motors are twice the price of Dyson Chinesium ones,
you can get new motor brushes for Henry and Dyson ,
 but lets be honest, who remembers to replace motor brushes before the motor is doing a "toasty Tesla impression" ? 

Why my interest in "hoovers"    I make a mess, dust etc 
I have to clean up said mess .
i've learnt NOT to use anyone else's "hoover" ,you end up having to fix or replace it 

[STEMO]

Hoovers,, buy a Henry.  Look at Professional cleaners use, they won't use Dyson or Shark it's either a Henry or some German make.

Henrys have their place 
but they are drag along , so no rotating brush bar for carpet,ok for hard floors.
 bags are a faf and suction is reduced when bags clog,
motors are twice the price of Dyson Chinesium ones,
you can get new motor brushes for Henry and Dyson ,
 but lets be honest, who remembers to replace motor brushes before the motor is doing a "toasty Tesla impression" ? 

Why my interest in "hoovers"    I make a mess, dust etc 
I have to clean up said mess .
i've learnt NOT to use anyone else's "hoover" ,you end up having to fix or replace it 

My Henry has several tools, including a very powerful brush bar. Bags never clog if changed in time. As I said earlier, it will pick up anything, including stones and leaves.

[Nick W]

Hoovers,, buy a Henry.  Look at Professional cleaners use, they won't use Dyson or Shark it's either a Henry or some German make.

We found that Henrys were the only cleaners the window fitters didn't destroy in minutes. The preferred method for the ones that were, was falling out the back of the van on the way home from the job

[Doctor Gollum]

And if you're buying Henry's that require bags, then you're clearly buying the wrong model.

A proper Henry is simply tipped out to empty filled by a wipe out if required. The filter simply gets the dust knocked off it and if you're feeling particularly posh you can wash it once a month.

[TheBoy]

Which is about all a Dyson is fit for. They are the perfect example of marketing over quality. 

There is a perfectly good reason why tool hire shops hire out Dyson vacuums.  And it ain't marketing

Kick backs, tax write offs and consumer preference based on, er, marketing 

Or, from the horses mouth, reliability, durability, repairability and ready availability of parts when a tradesman reverses over it with their van...

[TheBoy]

Oh, and most importantly, performance.

[TheBoy]

I have a pair of battery Dysons as well, both V8's. Despite my initial reservations before getting them, I have to say they do work for day to day vacuuming.  Given the amount of dust we get here, I have a vacuum out round some part of the house daily.

But we still have the corded vacuums for those days when you move the furniture and clean properly.

The batteries on the V8 are "almost good enough", and last about 20 mins on normal setting with a motorised brush bar.  Or about 15m on max mode with a crevice tool.  Which is usually good enough to do a quick vacuum of entire house, or vac the car.

The battery inevitably fails after 3 or 4 years (not bad, seeing ours live on their charging docks), but there are plenty of chinky replacements for £25, and they are easy to change, like most Dyson parts.

[STEMO]

And if you're buying Henry's that require bags, then you're clearly buying the wrong model.

A proper Henry is simply tipped out to empty filled by a wipe out if required. The filter simply gets the dust knocked off it and if you're feeling particularly posh you can wash it once a month.

Oh do be quiet, Biggles 

[Andy B]

Dysan motor to clutch belt deffo needs sorting, just a large piece of junk sat in the corner at the moment but a far better vac the Shark that was going to replace it.

well worth keeping a CORDED Dyson going 
parts are east to get ,and relatively easy to replace

Unlike the Shark offerings , no parts available and deliberately designed to stop DIY repair 

i've still got 2 DC03s ,2 DC04s ,1 DC07 (20 years old ,still sucks like a $5 hooker)   and 2 DC14s

I should really replace the cable on ours .... the outer insulation is split in places, especially the bits that continually get wrapped around the cable tidy bits.

I's on my ''to-do'' list 

[STEMO]

I have a pair of battery Dysons as well, both V8's. Despite my initial reservations before getting them, I have to say they do work for day to day vacuuming.  Given the amount of dust we get here, I have a vacuum out round some part of the house daily.

But we still have the corded vacuums for those days when you move the furniture and clean properly.

The batteries on the V8 are "almost good enough", and last about 20 mins on normal setting with a motorised brush bar.  Or about 15m on max mode with a crevice tool.  Which is usually good enough to do a quick vacuum of entire house, or vac the car.

The battery inevitably fails after 3 or 4 years (not bad, seeing ours live on their charging docks), but there are plenty of chinky replacements for £25, and they are easy to change, like most Dyson parts.

Move the furniture? I do that when we get a new carpet.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I have a pair of battery Dysons as well, both V8's. Despite my initial reservations before getting them, I have to say they do work for day to day vacuuming.  Given the amount of dust we get here, I have a vacuum out round some part of the house daily.

But we still have the corded vacuums for those days when you move the furniture and clean properly.

The batteries on the V8 are "almost good enough", and last about 20 mins on normal setting with a motorised brush bar.  Or about 15m on max mode with a crevice tool.  Which is usually good enough to do a quick vacuum of entire house, or vac the car.

The battery inevitably fails after 3 or 4 years (not bad, seeing ours live on their charging docks), but there are plenty of chinky replacements for £25, and they are easy to change, like most Dyson parts.

Move the furniture? I do that when we get a new carpet.

Is that something you're supposed to do? 

Last time I moved furniture was for some decorating, and a chest of drawers that hadn't moved for 25 odd years objected and promptly fell apart.            

[Doctor Gollum]

Our one Dyson got stopped in its tracks with the static from dog hair and finally died when the dog had enough of it and chewed through the cable

[dave the builder]

I should really replace the cable on ours .... the outer insulation is split in places, especially the bits that continually get wrapped around the cable tidy bits.

I's on my ''to-do'' list 

 
If you like to live dangerously ,Teslas and other EVs will be going cheap soon 
Do you bathe with your toaster ?

[Andy B]

I should really replace the cable on ours .... the outer insulation is split in places, especially the bits that continually get wrapped around the cable tidy bits.

I's on my ''to-do'' list 

 
If you like to live dangerously ,Teslas and other EVs will be going cheap soon 
Do you bathe with your toaster ?

it's only the outer  .... no wires showing 

[TheBoy]

Is that something you're supposed to do? 

Last time I moved furniture was for some decorating, and a chest of drawers that hadn't moved for 25 odd years objected and promptly fell apart.            

We do suffer with crazy amounts of dust here.  I think it blows in off the fields, especially at harvesting times, but also the wind whips up the soil a bit.  2 useless, festering moggies don't help either

[ronnyd]

I have a pair of battery Dysons as well, both V8's. Despite my initial reservations before getting them, I have to say they do work for day to day vacuuming.  Given the amount of dust we get here, I have a vacuum out round some part of the house daily.

But we still have the corded vacuums for those days when you move the furniture and clean properly.

The batteries on the V8 are "almost good enough", and last about 20 mins on normal setting with a motorised brush bar.  Or about 15m on max mode with a crevice tool.  Which is usually good enough to do a quick vacuum of entire house, or vac the car.

The battery inevitably fails after 3 or 4 years (not bad, seeing ours live on their charging docks), but there are plenty of chinky replacements for £25, and they are easy to change, like most Dyson parts.

Move the furniture? I do that when we get a new carpet.

Quite right too, now i'm in the high seventies and with a bloody great three piece suite with no castors, the dust and bits can damn well stay there. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Is that something you're supposed to do? 

Last time I moved furniture was for some decorating, and a chest of drawers that hadn't moved for 25 odd years objected and promptly fell apart.            

We do suffer with crazy amounts of dust here. I think it blows in off the fields, especially at harvesting times, but also the wind whips up the soil a bit.  2 useless, festering moggies don't help either

Dust is just insulation. It helps keep the house warm.  It's also like asbestos. It's harmless unless you disturb it. So don't! 

[Mr Skrunts]

I dont have an issue with dust - untill someone write thier name in it.