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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: davieboy0312 on 06 August 2014, 20:32:14

Title: slave cylinder
Post by: davieboy0312 on 06 August 2014, 20:32:14
how bullet proof are the clutch slave cylinders don't want to refit the old one if prone to failure or am I better just getting a new one while box is off anyway?
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 August 2014, 20:43:16
You already know the answer :y

At the very least, replace the bearing :y
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: davieboy0312 on 06 August 2014, 20:54:52
bearing has been done didn't have a problem with clutch before removal slave looks ok though. best not take a chance
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 August 2014, 21:16:16
Ok, I have to ask...

Why is the box off it the clutch is sound?
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: davieboy0312 on 06 August 2014, 21:18:24
for powder coating candy red mate. plus the dual mass flywheel was fubar
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 August 2014, 21:24:27
Then you want to be changing the clutch too :y
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Post by: davieboy0312 on 06 August 2014, 21:26:05
yea already got the flywheel fitted to block today. need the rest now.
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Post by: chrisgixer on 06 August 2014, 21:38:08
One wonders, has Al been candy appled as well?

Actually I'm off before the obvious happens ;D ;)
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 August 2014, 21:53:44
Candy apple is more Dazzles' colour ;D
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: davieboy0312 on 06 August 2014, 22:00:46
well by the end of September whole car will be that colour
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 August 2014, 08:25:40
In all the years, I am yet to see a failed slave cylinder on the Omega (unlike a few FWD units from certain manufacturers)
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: davieboy0312 on 07 August 2014, 09:16:19
So change clutch and pressure plate and old slave should be fine?
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 August 2014, 10:27:11
So change clutch and pressure plate and old slave should be fine?
Only if you change the release bearing... if that fails, it will destroy everything in the bellhousing.

But whilst you're in there, you might as well change the lot :y
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 August 2014, 10:30:49
Thing is look at what you have to go through to get at it again. Change everything imo  :y
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: davieboy0312 on 07 August 2014, 10:38:41
You guys are right. Not wanting to strip it for a slave cylinder so will just replace all  :y
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 August 2014, 10:42:18
You guys are right. Not wanting to strip it for a slave cylinder so will just replace all  :y

How much are they, Davie? I've never done an omega clutch (watched one be done). Normally a new one comes with the clutch kit for things like fords etc  :-\
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 August 2014, 10:47:15
LUK kits are either rep set: friction plate/pressure plate, or rep set pro: friction plate/pressure plate/slave cylinder (including release bearing). So the price difference is misleading. You can only buy the release bearing as a separate component from Vauxhall, and I cannot fathom why LUK won't supply it with the basic kit :-\
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 August 2014, 10:52:25
Very strange. Whats the diff in price between the 2 kits out of interest?
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Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 August 2014, 11:02:46
I don't recall :-[ the last clutch I bought came from Vauxhall...
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: davieboy0312 on 07 August 2014, 11:07:07
Cheapest i have found was 91 quid for clutch and pressure plate or 170 quid for same with a slave cylinder. Found a clutch on ebay supposing to increase torque is this correct??
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 August 2014, 11:24:59
Don't change the slave, you could potentially be fitting a part of unknown quality compared to the OE item which is known to be bullet proof.

Do change the release bearing which clips into the slave cylinder end (most base clutch kits come with this but if not, it can be bought separately)
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: davieboy0312 on 07 August 2014, 11:26:40
So best clean up slave. And go pressure and clutch plate?
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Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 August 2014, 11:41:30
Pressure plate, friction plate and release bearing  :y
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 August 2014, 11:43:58
Pressure plate, friction plate and release bearing  :y
This being as important as the other two parts :y

My LUK slave is on its second clutch and about 140k, with no concerns fwiw.
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: davieboy0312 on 07 August 2014, 11:46:19
Will do guys. Clutch plate, pressure plate and release bearing :y
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Post by: davieboy0312 on 07 August 2014, 15:50:50
Cant find a release bearing anywhere. Only concentric slave, plate and pressure plate. Can find a release bearing for older cars. Sorry  :-[
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Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 August 2014, 15:54:08
Try Vauxhall :y Charles Warner in Lincoln might be a good place to start...

As I said earlier, pattern slaves include the bearing, but they won't sell them separately ::)
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: davieboy0312 on 07 August 2014, 15:58:04
My car has the big green hydraulic thing in the box is that meant to have a release bearing on top? When i took it apart. It had dual mass flywheel. Clutch plate. Pressure plate then that green part. Sorry if im a breast al
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Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 August 2014, 16:22:11
Bearing lives on the end of the green thing... Should simply pull off, and it looks like a, um, er bearing ::)
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: davieboy0312 on 07 August 2014, 16:25:56
Am going for a pull at my bearing :-X
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: davieboy0312 on 07 August 2014, 16:32:37
Yes al you are the man. Does come off took a bit of a smack to get it off.  :y
Title: Re: slave cylinder
Post by: Mr Gav on 07 August 2014, 21:03:09
Did you get that from your local drug dealer then  :D