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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Entwood on 04 June 2009, 16:22:35
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Hi
EPC says that the REAR pads are different for ventilated/non-ventilated discs
Trade club site says pads for all models are the same and quotes the non-ventilated reference number.
Stealers are happy to order the them, with the pads for ventilated being far more expensive than non-ventilated.
Now, does this mean that all use the same pads .... or just that only the non-ventilated pads are on TC ???
I have taken the wheels off and now know I have ventilated discs, and am unsure which pads I need .. :(
The ones they gave me 93169001... non-ventilated ... look the same as the ones I've taken off, but don't exist on the EPC
Lastly, the EPC says the kit has the pins and the anti-rattle springs, the box they gave me doesn't have these, and the ones I've taken out are minging, and one anti-rattle spring fell apart.
So, as I'm crap at the EPC ... what should I be getting ...
I think it should be 9195058 (pads) and maybe 4 X 9195055 (pins) plus 2 X 9195056 (springs)
does this make any sense to anyone ??
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Hi
EPC says that the REAR pads are different for ventilated/non-ventilated discs
Trade club site says pads for all models are the same and quotes the non-ventilated reference number.
Stealers are happy to order the them, with the pads for ventilated being far more expensive than non-ventilated.
Now, does this mean that all use the same pads .... or just that only the non-ventilated pads are on TC ???
I have taken the wheels off and now know I have ventilated discs, and am unsure which pads I need .. :(
The ones they gave me ... non-ventilated ... look the same as the ones I've taken off.
Lastly, the EPC says the kit has the pins and the anti-rattle springs, the box they gave me doesn't have these, and the ones I've taken out are minging, and one anti-rattle spring fell apart.
So, as I'm crap at the EPC ... what should I be getting ...
I think it should be 9195058 (pads) and maybe 4 X 9195055 (pins) plus 2 X 9195056 (springs)
does this make any sense to anyone ??
I don't know if this helps Entwood, but last week I bought the full FRONT brake pad and ventilated discs in one Vx kit, No. 093175466, on TC for £75.74 ex-vat (down from £103)
;) ;) ;)
Don't know about the rear though! ::) ::)
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last week I bought the full FRONT brake pad and ventilated discs in one Vx kit, ......
All Omegas had vented at the front, it was just the late V6's that had vented at the back too.
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Hi
EPC says that the REAR pads are different for ventilated/non-ventilated discs
Trade club site says pads for all models are the same and quotes the non-ventilated reference number.
Stealers are happy to order the them, with the pads for ventilated being far more expensive than non-ventilated.
Now, does this mean that all use the same pads .... or just that only the non-ventilated pads are on TC ???
I have taken the wheels off and now know I have ventilated discs, and am unsure which pads I need .. :(
The ones they gave me ... non-ventilated ... look the same as the ones I've taken off.
Lastly, the EPC says the kit has the pins and the anti-rattle springs, the box they gave me doesn't have these, and the ones I've taken out are minging, and one anti-rattle spring fell apart.
So, as I'm crap at the EPC ... what should I be getting ...
I think it should be 9195058 (pads) and maybe 4 X 9195055 (pins) plus 2 X 9195056 (springs)
does this make any sense to anyone ??
I don't know if this helps Entwood, but last week I bought the full FRONT brake pad and ventilated discs in one Vx kit, No. 093175466, on TC for £75.74 ex-vat (down from £103)
;) ;) ;)
Don't know about the rear though! ::) ::)
Yup .. did those 2 weeks ago ... so the fronts are fine .. its the backs that are causing the problem. Car now sitting with no rear pads in at all, hopefully the stealers will have some pads by 0930 tomorow ... they reckon .. :-/ :-/ :-/
The big question is .. will they be the right ones.... ???
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last week I bought the full FRONT brake pad and ventilated discs in one Vx kit, ......
All Omegas had vented at the front, it was just the late V6's that had vented at the back too.
So would that include my 2000 face lift Andy? I had the wheels off a number of times and serviced the brakes, but cannot remember if the discs are ventilated! ::) ::) ::) Will be doing them soon.
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last week I bought the full FRONT brake pad and ventilated discs in one Vx kit, ......
All Omegas had vented at the front, it was just the late V6's that had vented at the back too.
So would that include my 2000 face lift Andy? I had the wheels off a number of times and serviced the brakes, but cannot remember if the discs are ventilated! ::) ::) ::) Will be doing them soon.
IIRC MarksDTM said it was cars after 2001 ;)
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last week I bought the full FRONT brake pad and ventilated discs in one Vx kit, ......
All Omegas had vented at the front, it was just the late V6's that had vented at the back too.
So would that include my 2000 face lift Andy? I had the wheels off a number of times and serviced the brakes, but cannot remember if the discs are ventilated! ::) ::) ::) Will be doing them soon.
IIRC MarksDTM said it was cars after 2001 ;)
Cheers Andy!! :y :y
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My 2000 Facelift has solid rears. I know this for sure as I bought replacements 4 weeks ago then found I didnt need them so I have a set of disks and pads sat in the living room.
My Mrs is not happy with me. :-/
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My 2000 Facelift has solid rears. I know this for sure as I bought replacements 4 weeks ago then found I didnt need them so I have a set of disks and pads sat in the living room.
My Mrs is not happy with me. :-/
Just tell her that the cost of the pads & discs is less than it would be to fill all three of your cars with petrol!!! ;) ;) ;) ;)
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With unleaded being 100.9 today it costs more to fill the Omega than the pads and disks cost.....
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Use 9192126 which has now changed to 93169001 @ £11.59 + VAT trade club
These are what GME class as aftermatket pads, are they a different material from the OE pads...i don't know.
Now the OE pads are 9195058 @ £42.80 + VAT and are not on the trade club program. These will also come with the pad fitting kit unlike the aftermarket ones
We, to be honest haven't stocked the OE pads for at least a couple of year as lease companies etc will not pay the difference
Hope that helps a little
Andy
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Use 9192126 which has now changed to 93169001 @ £11.59 + VAT trade club
These are what GME class as aftermatket pads, are they a different material from the OE pads...i don't know.
Now the OE pads are 9195058 @ £42.80 + VAT and are not on the trade club program. These will also come with the pad fitting kit unlike the aftermarket ones
We, to be honest haven't stocked the OE pads for at least a couple of year as lease companies etc will not pay the difference
Hope that helps a little
Andy
just to say, thats exactly what i have, parts man said vented discs take different pads to non vented, so got the vented set,4 pins,2 springs, 4 shims in the box. just as well as the old pins where a mess and both springs broke.
oh yes, came with instructions as well Entwood... ;)
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andyc & chrisgixer
many thanks to you both ... explains the whole thing nicely ... :y :y
I'll go for the OE ones tomorrow (hopefully) as the pins and springs really do need replacing. If they can't get them then I'll fit these .. a pop-rivet should fix the broken anti-rattle spring.
At least it will get me mobile !!! :)
Thanks again :)
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Phoned the stealers at 9 ... they were in :) so used SWTSMBO car to go and get them, then only took 30 minutes to fit them ... seemed to tale longer to jack the car and do the wheels than it did to do the brakes !!
All working well with new pins, springs and shims :y :y
Glad I took the old ones off last night and cleaned them all up ready, made this mornings job that much easier.
'Van is half packed ... off about 3 .. see you all Sunday night.
Thanks for all the help :)
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Use 9192126 which has now changed to 93169001 @ £11.59 + VAT trade club
These are what GME class as aftermatket pads, are they a different material from the OE pads...i don't know.
Now the OE pads are 9195058 @ £42.80 + VAT and are not on the trade club program. These will also come with the pad fitting kit unlike the aftermarket ones
We, to be honest haven't stocked the OE pads for at least a couple of year as lease companies etc will not pay the difference
Hope that helps a little
Andy
have to say i fitted OE pads 3 years ago which cost a fortune then(£63.88) however since then it has pulled a caravan around spain and france and totalled 34000 miles since they were fitted, checked them last wednesday when changing a wheel bearing, and they are less than half worn!! very little of any brake dust over the rims, have never troubled them no matter how hard i drive it even towing 4 wheeled car transporter loaded with racetrack senny!! Trade pads are lucky to see 20k in my experience, so the next set i need will definetly be the OE ones again!! looks like Lizzy bought the proper ones to!!! :y
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Use 9192126 which has now changed to 93169001 @ £11.59 + VAT trade club
These are what GME class as aftermatket pads, are they a different material from the OE pads...i don't know.
Now the OE pads are 9195058 @ £42.80 + VAT and are not on the trade club program. These will also come with the pad fitting kit unlike the aftermarket ones
We, to be honest haven't stocked the OE pads for at least a couple of year as lease companies etc will not pay the difference
Hope that helps a little
Andy
have to say i fitted OE pads 3 years ago which cost a fortune then(£63.88) however since then it has pulled a caravan around spain and france and totalled 34000 miles since they were fitted, checked them last wednesday when changing a wheel bearing, and they are less than half worn!! very little of any brake dust over the rims, have never troubled them no matter how hard i drive it even towing 4 wheeled car transporter loaded with racetrack senny!! Trade pads are lucky to see 20k in my experience, so the next set i need will definetly be the OE ones again!! looks like Lizzy bought the proper ones to!!! :y
I think they must be worth a try when I replace my discs ... when I get my car back. ;)
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Use 9192126 which has now changed to 93169001 @ £11.59 + VAT trade club
These are what GME class as aftermatket pads, are they a different material from the OE pads...i don't know.
Now the OE pads are 9195058 @ £42.80 + VAT and are not on the trade club program. These will also come with the pad fitting kit unlike the aftermarket ones
We, to be honest haven't stocked the OE pads for at least a couple of year as lease companies etc will not pay the difference
Hope that helps a little
Andy
have to say i fitted OE pads 3 years ago which cost a fortune then(£63.88) however since then it has pulled a caravan around spain and france and totalled 34000 miles since they were fitted, checked them last wednesday when changing a wheel bearing, and they are less than half worn!! very little of any brake dust over the rims, have never troubled them no matter how hard i drive it even towing 4 wheeled car transporter loaded with racetrack senny!! Trade pads are lucky to see 20k in my experience, so the next set i need will definetly be the OE ones again!! looks like Lizzy bought the proper ones to!!! :y
I think they must be worth a try when I replace my discs ... when I get my car back. ;)
Strange thing is Andy, I very nearly didnt due to the cost difference thinking surely they cant be that much better?
But they definatly are far superior all round, so glad i spent the big bucks then as its paid for itself time and again!!
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Strange thing is Andy, I very nearly didnt due to the cost difference thinking surely they cant be that much better?
But they definatly are far superior all round, so glad i spent the big bucks then as its paid for itself time and again!!
I'll order some I think ...... seeing as it's you that's reccomending them!
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Strange thing is Andy, I very nearly didnt due to the cost difference thinking surely they cant be that much better?
But they definatly are far superior all round, so glad i spent the big bucks then as its paid for itself time and again!!
I'll order some I think ...... seeing as it's you that's reccomending them!
I very much doubt you will regret it!! I found if you drive a car with trade pads and another with OE, the difference in brake feel is quite something!! :y
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I very much doubt you will regret it!! I found if you drive a car with trade pads and another with OE, the difference in brake feel is quite something!! :y
The most effective brakes I've ever had were on a Manta B I had years & years ago. I nearly put myself through the screen when I first braked on my test run!
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So where do we get oe pads for the front to match the back? (as opposed to the trade club front pads i have that came in the set with front discs etc.)
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OE front pads are: 9195077 @ £71.06 + VAT .
Thats for the V6's and later 16v's
Compared with the T/C pads, 9192124 @ £13.95 + VAT
Andy
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Thanks for info Andy.
So what do we reckon then?
Thats ****ing steep for pads, but if they last and perform then would be worth it in the long run. And for me, i was thinking i would def. try them, before i knew the price that is.
Reason being when the oe rears where fitted i thought there was a good improvement in feel, and was looking forward to the same improvement at the front. Didnt happen. Difficult to gauge as my old discs and pads where in such a poor state but my gut feeling is they would probably be better than the trade club front pads.
Anyone know for sure if they are better and worth the money? Certainly if they avoid recking the discs like my old set then it would be worth it overall.
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Thanks for info Andy.
So what do we reckon then?
Thats ****ing steep for pads, but if they last and perform then would be worth it in the long run. And for me, i was thinking i would def. try them, before i knew the price that is.
Reason being when the oe rears where fitted i thought there was a good improvement in feel, and was looking forward to the same improvement at the front. Didnt happen. Difficult to gauge as my old discs and pads where in such a poor state but my gut feeling is they would probably be better than the trade club front pads.
Anyone know for sure if they are better and worth the money? Certainly if they avoid recking the discs like my old set then it would be worth it overall.
as said earlier, definetly better feel and performance, and by the way my discs are original at 122k and show no signs of distress, have virtually no lip on them and no ridge lines either!!
whether or not its down to pads i cant say, all i can say is in the mileage i have done on them never had any problems with brake dust or fade etc etc :y
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right thats good enough for me. Ill order a set. Some on here will know ive been moaning about brakes for a while as i think they feel wooden, they just dont seem to bite.
Its clear the cheaper pads have been fitted previously on my 3.2 and i would bloody well remember the bill if they had been fitted to my previous 2.5 which had the exact same wooden feel. I had hoped the 3.2 brakes would have been better when i got the car, with vented discs i thought they would have been upgraded maybe.
This explanes it it seems. But jesus thats 120 odd quid for the car set ffs.... Berloody hell! :o
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I Wont upset you telling you I have a set of the Original, expensive front pads at home then....
My parts dept offered me them in a tidy out, and sold me them for £9!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D
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I Wont upset you telling you I have a set of the Original, expensive front pads at home then....
My parts dept offered me them in a tidy out, and sold me them for £9!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D
Selling per chance Jim?
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I Wont upset you telling you I have a set of the Original, expensive front pads at home then....
My parts dept offered me them in a tidy out, and sold me them for £9!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D
Selling per chance Jim?
not a cat in hells chance sorry, they will be going on one of ours :D
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I Wont upset you telling you I have a set of the Original, expensive front pads at home then....
My parts dept offered me them in a tidy out, and sold me them for £9!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D
Selling per chance Jim?
not a cat in hells chance sorry, they will be going on one of ours :D
He he. No worries Jim. Dont blame you i wouldnt sell either. Did you know what they where when you got them? Oe i mean. :-)
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yes, couldnt understand it, he told me exactly what they were! and they were cheaper than the TC pads!
There are a few others on here profited from their parts too :y
i offered up anything I didnt want.
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yes, couldnt understand it, he told me exactly what they were! and they were cheaper than the TC pads!
There are a few others on here profited from their parts too :y
i offered up anything I didnt want.
Was the others :
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1238696457/54#54
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right. Set ordered or reserved i should say. First price he quoted was over £100. When questioned he said thats retail. Trade club price is £71odd. But he had them on the shelf and said they sell quite a few! Just oofers that are tight then! ;D
Will pick up tomorrow and see if i can get the bloody wear sensor out without braking it.
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Andy .. quick Q if I may ... :)
Which pads do you get when you buy the whole disc/pads axle set then ???
The whole lot comes in one box under part no 93175466 Installation set @ £103 retail, £75.74 TC
Ta :)
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Andy .. quick Q if I may ... :)
Which pads do you get when you buy the whole disc/pads axle set then ???
The whole lot comes in one box under part no 93175466 Installation set @ £103 retail, £75.74 TC
Ta :)
Squeaky ones IME. ::)
Kevin
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Andy .. quick Q if I may ... :)
Which pads do you get when you buy the whole disc/pads axle set then ???
The whole lot comes in one box under part no 93175466 Installation set @ £103 retail, £75.74 TC
Ta :)
Squeaky ones IME. ::)
Kevin
Agreed .. I can't stop the front right squeaking .. had it off and on 3 times now ..... :( , chamfer is good, copperslip on the back of both pads, shimmed pad to the caliper, high temp grease on the sliders and the casting where the pad sits .. can't think of anything else to try .. :(
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Agreed .. I can't stop the front right squeaking .. had it off and on 3 times now ..... :( , chamfer is good, copperslip on the back of both pads, shimmed pad to the caliper, high temp grease on the sliders and the casting where the pad sits .. can't think of anything else to try .. :(
Not just me then. >:(
Kevin
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can't think of anything else to try .. :(
It's very simple Nige - turn up the radio ;D
In all seriousness, I've had this, it's a pain >:(
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you get the £14 trace club ones, referred to as after market, in the box wish the front discs as part of the trace club package on the front.
You do not get the oe fronts (£70 tc price) that match the £40 rear pads that i beleive you now have.
Re the squeak, my old front pads where installed incorrectly i thought, ie both shimmed pads on the drivers side and both non shimmed on the pass side. The direction arrow on one shim was in the correct direction on the drivers side, the other shimmed pad on the drivers side did not have a direction arrow. No squeak but then they where a mess. Thing is the new pads with same part number on them had no arrows at all.
I installed the new pads with the shimmed pad on the piston side of the each caliper. Still no squeak.
But i have not yet finished the 200 mile bed in period. So still time for them to start squealing.
My new and old pads are same as yours from the trade club front disc and pad set as i understand it.
After speaking in person to Kevin a while back and witnessing his Squeak, i deliberately kept the metal shims off the old pads to stick on the unshimmed new pad if they did squeak. In short, you could try both shimmed pads on the speaky side. Or if both sides squeak fit the old shims on both non shimmed pads. Not saying it will def. work but something to try. They where only glued on. Or get the £70 oe pads..?
As said. I will get the oe, "made of gold" pads tomorrow, fit thursday morning and report back if it helps.
Now then, wheres that Mr copper slip, sorry, i mean Andy B? Hmm? :-)
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Now then, wheres that Mr copper slip, sorry, i mean Andy B? Hmm? :-)
I knew you'd have to use it in the end! I looked for mine earlier today ..... but couldn't find it. I'll have to get some more from stores tomorrow! (for use in work ..... obviously ;)) :y :y
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Now then, wheres that Mr copper slip, sorry, i mean Andy B? Hmm? :-)
I knew you'd have to use it in the end! I looked for mine earlier today ..... but couldn't find it. I'll have to get some more from stores tomorrow! (for use in work ..... obviously ;)) :y :y
oh dear he has his copper tinted spectacles on again? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Now then, wheres that Mr copper slip, sorry, i mean Andy B? Hmm? :-)
I knew you'd have to use it in the end! I looked for mine earlier today ..... but couldn't find it. I'll have to get some more from stores tomorrow! (for use in work ..... obviously ;)) :y :y
oh dear he has his copper tinted spectacles on again? ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D :y :y
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right, "gold pads" fitted and complete transformation. Even reversing out of the drive, slight press on the pedal to select drive and could tell the difference straght away, drove round the block and that whole dead spot of pedal travel where nothing happens has gone. i have not even reached the same level of pedal pressure needed to get the old pads to start working and these already work better. Bear in mind they have not even started to bed in yetand already work far better than the old pads.
To keep this in perspective i dont think these pads are especially good when compared to other 20k plus cars, more that the £14 "aftermarket pads" are exceptionally sh1teandt it does bring home what you can "get used to"
Big thanks to Entwood for asking the question, and omegatoy gets a proverbial gold star for confirming the new pads do work and are defo worth the money .....well, still steep imho but in the world of GM you get what you pay for.
Pics below. Note, ALL pads have proper anti sqeal shims on them that cover all the contact areas on the edges prevent the caliper making any contact with the metal pad backing. The pad material is totally dafferaent.
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/11062009654.jpg)
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/11062009656.jpg)
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Interesting...
Trying to recall what I had on mine before I changed them. Don't recall them being any different to the ones I fitted, which would mean cheapo. I've never had such a bad set of pads as the current ones for noise, though. On previous "tin tops" I just bought whatever my local factors sold me too. Then again, most cars have separate anti-rattle shims where currently I have none on the side faces of the pads.
Kevin
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these shims are rivetted on as opposed to the glue used on the aftermarket pads. just trying to search the Jurid name on the back. Maybe they can be had cheeper direct from the manufacturer...?
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right, "gold pads" fitted and complete transformation. Even reversing out of the drive, slight press on the pedal to select drive and could tell the difference straght away, drove round the block and that whole dead spot of pedal travel where nothing happens has gone. i have not even reached the same level of pedal pressure needed to get the old pads to start working and these already work better. Bear in mind they have not even started to bed in yetand already work far better than the old pads.
To keep this in perspective i dont think these pads are especially good when compared to other 20k plus cars, more that the £14 "aftermarket pads" are exceptionally sh1teandt it does bring home what you can "get used to"
Big thanks to Entwood for asking the question, and omegatoy gets a proverbial gold star for confirming the new pads do work and are defo worth the money .....well, still steep imho but in the world of GM you get what you pay for.
Pics below. Note, ALL pads have proper anti sqeal shims on them that cover all the contact areas on the edges prevent the caliper making any contact with the metal pad backing. The pad material is totally dafferaent.
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/11062009654.jpg)
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/11062009656.jpg)
yehaa glad you find the difference as i do!! now i know you hurting over the price :obut just watch how long they actually last with no degradation of performance or feel, hope you wrote the mileage down cos you will have forgotten it by the time they want replacing!!! :y
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thanks again omegatoy. They feel like they will take some time to bed in fully, so more to come? If they are hard wearing may take a while?
Cant find them listed anywhere under Jurid, only seem to come up under .com sites and none list Vauxhall or opel, cant find under catera either....
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With the front kit from VX.part number 93175466,do you also get the calliper bolts?,as Mr.Haynes says these should be renewed at disc/pad change.
If not is there a seperate part number for them ?
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I believe I got new bolts with my kit.
Kevin
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Just spoke to my local VX dealer and they tell me that the caliper bolts don,t come as part of the disk/pad set,and they need to be ordered as a seperate item.
Seems very strange and another way of inflating the price as my understanding was caliper bolts should be replaced when discs pads are renewed.
Any one had similar experience and got a part number for the bolt set as parts man has just had a right roasting so he won,t be too pleased to speak to me for a while.
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When I bought my disk/pad axle set on TC there were 4 bolts in the kit, these were the ones for the caliper slides ... 15 mm IIRC .....
HTH
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Entwood...thats what I thought and remembered from a previous time I bought a kit,but when I questioned the parts man in dealers today he said they didn,t include slider bolts and that they were a seperate kit...seems just a way of making a second sale for the same kit to me.
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most odd .. I only bought mine 3 weeks ago and they were there ... and the box was well sealed, so my guess is your parts man is just trying to make a sale.
Best bet is to open the sealed box in the stealers and see if they are there ... if they are .. problem solved...
:)
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I have a set of 'real' and tradeclub pads in the garage.
Trade Club weigh : 1.835 Kg,
Real ones Weigh 2.02 Kg
not much, but the good ones feel more substantial.
Trade club ones ready champhered, real are square edged.
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I have a set of 'real' and tradeclub pads in the garage.
Trade Club weigh : 1.835 Kg,
Real ones Weigh 2.02 Kg
not much, but the good ones feel more substantial.
Trade club ones ready champhered, real are square edged.
So, on the bright side, my power-to-weight ratio is slightly better withg the cr@p pads in. 8-)
Kevin
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both of my sets of pads had two(2) bolts in!.... so i eventually ended up with the 4 i needed. The disc and pad set should defo have the bolts, my box had split open so i guess 2 fell out somewhere.
Strangely the "gold" "proper" pads only had two bolts as well, and the box was well sealed.
Yes, no champher on the proper pads. Bigger contact area.... may also help them work better. And add to the weight i suppose.
Champher on the trade club pads does seem ott, almost halfs the pad size, and they still squeak apparently, even WITH copper slip would you beleive, who'd a thought....? :-)
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Sorry to be a pain, I'm just in the process of changing my front discs..
What is the correct part number for the 'golden' pads is it 9195077 (£97 i think the parts man said) or 9195058 (at £54)
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Weds...where will you be getting them from as I had a bust up with the parts guy in Barnes,Maidstone,other day over caliper bolts in brake kit.
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Weds...where will you be getting them from as I had a bust up with the parts guy in Barnes,Maidstone,other day over caliper bolts in brake kit.
I rung up Pomphrey in Sittingbourne, its a bit of a pain with Greens of Rainham shutting, about a 30 miles round trip to either Barnes or Pomphrey
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The prices quoted ,were they on ABS trade card then ? I must admit I do find Pomphreys the best of the Kent Bunch.
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Don't think the goldern pads are on TC, the discs are and they do recognise Autobahnstormers
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Don't think the goldern pads are on TC, the discs are and they do recognise Autobahnstormers
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OE front pads are: 9195077 @ £71.06 + VAT .
Thats for the V6's and later 16v's
Compared with the T/C pads, 9192124 @ £13.95 + VAT
Andy
Above are the two sets of pads in question.
The cheaper(crap)after market ones came to me in the disc and pad set. So i didnt pay the individual pad price. These are available on trade club, with the autobahnstormers card, either individually or as a front axle set of discs and pads.
The gold, as i call them, pads, or oe(original equipment to give them the proper name) are available on trade club according at my dealer at £71.06 plus expensis. I was originally quoted over £100 for the same oe pads before the parts man realised i was a trade club member. So, they can be had on trade club.... Or they can at Burnham garage Slough anyway, but looks like you wont get them cheaper than 70 odd quid no matter what you do.
Maybe depends on your dealers franchise. My Reading branch under Evans Calshaw or what ever it is, now refuse to take orders over the phone, you have to pay in person at the counter. Although i was speaking to a jobsworth so may not actually be the case. They have given strange quotes on trade club stuff so i dont use them anymore.
Anyway, i do wonder how much the discs are on their own and weather they are that cheap because they are sold as a set with pads on trade club.
Will we be in the strange position where its cheaper to by the disc/ pad set AND the oe gold pads than it is to by oe pads and discs on their own?
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Thanks for that, my dealer has the disc in stock but not the pads, i'll order some up on monday..
hopefully get rid of that wooden brake pedal feeling...
Last week I was driving a friends Merc Vito van and kept putting everyone into the windscreen with the very sharp brakes, didn't like them at all.