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Re: 3.0 won't start
« Reply #15 on: 29 September 2016, 14:32:00 »

Siemens, as you say as well as Bosch, depending on the model, are the Crank Sensors.

But, just because it has Bosch on the side, it doesn't mean it has been made to the same specifications as a sensor supplied to GM by Bosch. GM's supply contract with Bosch may well prohibit that.

This is the whole folly with "OEM brand" parts. You are taking a punt and, when you're dealing with a part that isn't particularly reliable when genuine, there is little room for quality to drop.

Nonsense, GM would prohibit them selling the part direct for a period of time. But no manufacturer would bother to re tool just to make the same product.

And yes I work in manufacturing......

Aftermarket parts will not be the same. Some better, some not so good.

You've clearly never fitted a non GM V6 crank sensor... :-X

There's probably a thousand years and a billion miles of Omega ownership behind this forum. Advice is given on the basis of that experience and should not be dismissed or countered lightly.

Indeed.
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Re: 3.0 won't start
« Reply #16 on: 29 September 2016, 14:41:52 »


There's probably a thousand years and a billion miles of Omega ownership behind this forum. Advice is given on the basis of that experience and should not be dismissed or countered lightly.

This sounds like a prologue for star wars saga  ;D ;D

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Re: 3.0 won't start
« Reply #17 on: 29 September 2016, 14:45:25 »


There's probably a thousand years and a billion miles of Omega ownership behind this forum. Advice is given on the basis of that experience and should not be dismissed or countered lightly.

This sounds like a prologue for star wars saga  ;D ;D


That substitutes Trade Club for the Force, and has an even more rambling plot.
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Re: 3.0 won't start
« Reply #18 on: 29 September 2016, 14:56:41 »

Ive got a genuine one tucked away in the boot, and its staying there.

The day i take it out and put it on a shelf in the garage is the day it ll die.

The previous owner got fed up having it off the road at a local country garage . Eventually they stuck a genuine sensor in, which has been sound for the last six years.
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« Reply #19 on: 29 September 2016, 16:11:02 »

I'm in the genuine camp on this one,having let my son's place fit an after market crank sensor from CAF on one of my 3.2's,car ran OK for a few months and then...just when you don't need it,the usual  symptoms started and and it was changed for a genuine one,problem solved. Same thing with the 3.0,only this time a non Bosch MAF sensor fitted and straight away it started throwing up fault codes and the car ran like crap,3 days later Bosch fitted and normal service was resumed.After market parts? not for me, buy once and buy right :y
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« Reply #20 on: 29 September 2016, 16:36:10 »

Siemens, as you say as well as Bosch, depending on the model, are the Crank Sensors.

But, just because it has Bosch on the side, it doesn't mean it has been made to the same specifications as a sensor supplied to GM by Bosch. GM's supply contract with Bosch may well prohibit that.

This is the whole folly with "OEM brand" parts. You are taking a punt and, when you're dealing with a part that isn't particularly reliable when genuine, there is little room for quality to drop.

Nonsense, GM would prohibit them selling the part direct for a period of time. But no manufacturer would bother to re tool just to make the same product.

And yes I work in manufacturing......

Aftermarket parts will not be the same. Some better, some not so good.

You've clearly never fitted a non GM V6 crank sensor... :-X

There's probably a thousand years and a billion miles of Omega ownership behind this forum. Advice is given on the basis of that experience and should not be dismissed or countered lightly.

You stick with your non GM branded sensors . . . us long term Oof members will carry on using what we KNOW is best  ;)
Also it may be prudent to check that your breakdown cover is up to date  . . . as you will almost certainly be using it if fitting the other type on to a V6 omega ::)
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Re: 3.0 won't start
« Reply #21 on: 29 September 2016, 17:44:58 »

My thoughts are well known on branded and pattern, I use both, the only exception is sensors, I only fit genuine sensors,
 used pattern once, as others have said lasted about fortnight.

So listen to the years of experience, not the price.
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« Reply #22 on: 29 September 2016, 17:53:43 »

Did I ever say that Heinz make HP beans?  ::) ::) But they're not the same as Beanz   :y :y
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« Reply #23 on: 29 September 2016, 17:57:28 »

Did I ever say that Heinz make HP beans?  ::) ::) But they're not the same as Beanz   :y :y

Once or twice, we may have forgotten  ;)
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« Reply #24 on: 29 September 2016, 18:00:15 »

Did I ever say that Heinz make HP beans?  ::) ::) But they're not the same as Beanz   :y :y

Once or twice, we may have forgotten  ;)

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« Reply #25 on: 29 September 2016, 20:42:23 »

Did I ever say that Heinz make HP beans?  ::) ::) But they're not the same as Beanz   :y :y

Course they are. I can see where the Heinz has rubbed off ! :P
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« Reply #26 on: 29 September 2016, 21:23:29 »

Gentlemen please......no rubbing off here! :o
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« Reply #27 on: 30 September 2016, 07:47:58 »

Gentlemen please......no  ;D off here! :o

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« Reply #28 on: 30 September 2016, 08:52:40 »

Did I ever say that Heinz make HP beans?  ::) ::) But they're not the same as Beanz   :y :y

Course they are. I can see where the Heinz has rubbed off ! :P

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« Reply #29 on: 30 September 2016, 08:53:00 »

Gentlemen please......no rubbing off here! :o

 ;D ;D
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