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[Ian_D]

Not sure why, but the Omega has hit the rev limiter a few times recently.

I set off at a junction tonight, and decided to give it a foot full (like you do!) and it hit the limiter when changing between 1st and 2nd! The car actually slowed down as it hit the limiter just before it changed! - I felt myself move forwards in my seat even

Car has done it in both normal and sport mode a few times (was in normal mode tonight). It changes fine from 2nd to 3rd though  :-/

Anyone else’s auto's do this? Any ideas?

[ngrainqey]

might be to do with the oilways in the gearbox as they control gearchanges using hydraulic pressure, mines only ever hit the rev limited when i'v held it in first

[JamesV6CDX]

Are there any fault codes stored?

[Ian_D]

My engine light is on... but thats been on for almost a yr now :s

IIRC the light is something to do with the secondary air valve.  :-/

Will check and see if anythink new has appeared.

[MutantCav]

When you say limiter...you mean it wont rev past 4500rpm as its gone into safe mode??? Usually a sign of crankshaft or camshaft sensor failing...

[Ian_D]

When you say limiter...you mean it wont rev past 4500rpm as its gone into safe mode??? Usually a sign of crankshaft or camshaft sensor failing...

No i mean RPM shows about 6650-6750 ish.

[iainb]

Is this a one event or does  do it every time you clog it.
Was the car cold or hot ?

[Ian_D]

Is this a one event or does  do it every time you clog it.
Was the car cold or hot ?

Its done it 3 times in the past few weeks.

Ive just been out in it again, and it changed JUST in time twice 1st - 2nd (2nd -3rd is fine)

Didnt have enough road to do anymore tests!  

The worst its done it (tonight) the car had been parked up for about an hr. I jumped in it, started it up and was talking to a mate for 5 mins before it moved - so temp was almost half way on the dash by that point, drove half a mile, then opened it up.

Other two times, the car was fully warmed up.

Haven't tried it cold, try not rev engine over 4.5k till shes warm  

[Phil B]

I was just reading this in horror and was about to question your driving technique, when I realised you are talking about a slush box!  

Change it for a proper gearbox!  

[Ian_D]

I was just reading this in horror and was about to question your driving technique, when I realised you are talking about a slush box!  

Change it for a proper gearbox!  

Tis a proper box... Im a lazy person!

[Andy B]

.....Tis a proper box... Im a lazy person!

 

[Phil B]

hehehe each to their own I guess. My parents gave me their Granada as my first car with a 4 speed slushy. Oh how I longed to dip the clutch and rev it!!! That's why I wouldn't have one for a while.

I do miss it when the M4 is chocca though!

[MutantCav]

So basically itsnot changing gears till 6k+ on the rev counter???

Just a thought but is the sports mode button sticking...known possible fault...if you put sports mode on...what kind of revs does the car change at??

[Ian_D]

So basically itsnot changing gears till 6k+ on the rev counter???

Just a thought but is the sports mode button sticking...known possible fault...if you put sports mode on...what kind of revs does the car change at??

If traffic about 2k,  and normal driving about 3k.

[feeutfo]

So basically itsnot changing gears till 6k+ on the rev counter???

Just a thought but is the sports mode button sticking...known possible fault...if you put sports mode on...what kind of revs does the car change at??

If traffic about 2k,  and normal driving about 3k.

Def something not right for an auto, no idea what tho. Id be getting it on a tech2 for a diagnostic.  
When cracking on the car will rev to the limits of the rev range and i wonder if it just goes that little bit further the limiter will cut in. Maybe a setting is a fraction off(a guess) or something more serious maybe.Or a reluctance to change up in a particular gear. Dont know of a tech2 near York, maybe a trek to The Boy or Mr dtm would be in order?

[Ian_D]

So basically itsnot changing gears till 6k+ on the rev counter???

Just a thought but is the sports mode button sticking...known possible fault...if you put sports mode on...what kind of revs does the car change at??

If traffic about 2k,  and normal driving about 3k.

Def something not right for an auto, no idea what tho. Id be getting it on a tech2 for a diagnostic.  
When cracking on the car will rev to the limits of the rev range and i wonder if it just goes that little bit further the limiter will cut in. Maybe a setting is a fraction off(a guess) or something more serious maybe.Or a reluctance to change up in a particular gear. Dont know of a tech2 near York, maybe a trek to The Boy or Mr dtm would be in order?

Its not every time, its only every now and then...

When should auto change gear if your foot it flat to the floor including pressing the kick down switch? Normally it changed just before the limiter.

Hard to say about gear changes, but on the way to work just now, I was following an old granny, and it changed from 1st-2nd at about 2.4k, then again into 3rd at about 2.3k.

Is a video needed?  

[Mr Skrunts]

So basically itsnot changing gears till 6k+ on the rev counter???

Just a thought but is the sports mode button sticking...known possible fault...if you put sports mode on...what kind of revs does the car change at??

Even in sports mode the engine does not normally hit the rev limiter.

The rev limiter is an extra precaution to stop the engine doing its self damage by going into the red section of the rev counter.

The rev limiter is not be confused with the change point in normal or sport mode auto.


The rev limter on older cars was often known as valve bounce.  

[Ian_D]

Its deffo 100% the rev limiter!

It sounds like this:

1st..Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum...raaaah...raaaah...raaah....2nd..bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumm

(however you spell the sounds!!!  )

lol!  

[Andy B]

What's your ATF fluid level like? A previous auto I had used to consume ATF  and as the level became too low I lost drive for a short time, particularly around corners. :-/

[Ian_D]

What's your ATF fluid level like? A previous auto I had used to consume ATF  and as the level became too low I lost drive for a short time, particularly around corners. :-/

No idea Andy... Maybe its a job for the meet at Guy's?  

I have wondered about that, as its on 114k... Maybe on original fluid.

[feeutfo]

Its deffo 100% the rev limiter!

It sounds like this:

1st..Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum...raaaah...raaaah...raaah....2nd..bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumm

(however you spell the sounds!!!  )

lol!  

  hate to be pedantic but the correct spelling is
BaaaaaAAAAAAAABABABABABA change up
BaaaaaAAAAAAAABABABABABA change up and so on
If anybody want to experience for themselves, leave it out of gear and just stand on the gas pedal.
This can also be experienced at any cruise or meeting of young people with cars... Not really a good idea, but should not do any real harm.

[Ian_D]

Its deffo 100% the rev limiter!

It sounds like this:

1st..Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum...raaaah...raaaah...raaah....2nd..bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumm

(however you spell the sounds!!!  )

lol!  

  hate to be pedantic but the correct spelling is
BaaaaaAAAAAAAABABABABABA change up
BaaaaaAAAAAAAABABABABABA change up and so on
If anybody want to experience for themselves, leave it out of gear and just stand on the gas pedal.
This can also be experienced at any cruise or meeting of young people with cars... Not really a good idea, but should not do any real harm.

LOL! What you trying to  say about young people???  

[Kevin Wood]

Sounds like the autobox could do with a fluid and filter change, then see if it's Ok after that. It's probably just a little slow to respond to the ECU request to change up.

If you're not going to get around to it for a while, top up the fluid level (up to the level plug when hot, on the level and with the engine running).

Kevin

[Ian_D]

Sounds like the autobox could do with a fluid and filter change, then see if it's Ok after that. It's probably just a little slow to respond to the ECU request to change up.

If you're not going to get around to it for a while, top up the fluid level (up to the level plug when hot, on the level and with the engine running).

Kevin

Aye, could well be! Will get some fluid asap, and check the level  

[tmx]

myn isnt happy unless its bouncing off the limiter! be warned some powerchips Disable the limiter or increase it btw!

only hit the limiter in 2nd and 3rd dont attempt it in 4th/5th to fast!

[ngrainqey]

So basically itsnot changing gears till 6k+ on the rev counter???

Just a thought but is the sports mode button sticking...known possible fault...if you put sports mode on...what kind of revs does the car change at??

If traffic about 2k,  and normal driving about 3k.

Def something not right for an auto, no idea what tho. Id be getting it on a tech2 for a diagnostic.  
When cracking on the car will rev to the limits of the rev range and i wonder if it just goes that little bit further the limiter will cut in. Maybe a setting is a fraction off(a guess) or something more serious maybe.Or a reluctance to change up in a particular gear. Dont know of a tech2 near York, maybe a trek to The Boy or Mr dtm would be in order?

Its not every time, its only every now and then...

When should auto change gear if your foot it flat to the floor including pressing the kick down switch? Normally it changed just before the limiter.

Hard to say about gear changes, but on the way to work just now, I was following an old granny, and it changed from 1st-2nd at about 2.4k, then again into 3rd at about 2.3k.

Is a video needed?  

i have to say it sounds more like the BABABA sound rather than RAH RAH RAH! lol...
it should change with your foot flat down/kickdown pressed just on the edge of the red line asin take it just so it touches... unless your spinning a wheel and then it'll hit rev limiter!

[Ian_D]

myn isnt happy unless its bouncing off the limiter! be warned some powerchips Disable the limiter or increase it btw!

only hit the limiter in 2nd and 3rd dont attempt it in 4th/5th to fast!

Hmm just thinking now, I fitted a chip and lost the cat's a few months back, which I think has helped free it up a very little bit (top end), maybe the gearbox cant always keep up because of this?  

[Ian_D]

So basically itsnot changing gears till 6k+ on the rev counter???

Just a thought but is the sports mode button sticking...known possible fault...if you put sports mode on...what kind of revs does the car change at??

If traffic about 2k,  and normal driving about 3k.

Def something not right for an auto, no idea what tho. Id be getting it on a tech2 for a diagnostic.  
When cracking on the car will rev to the limits of the rev range and i wonder if it just goes that little bit further the limiter will cut in. Maybe a setting is a fraction off(a guess) or something more serious maybe.Or a reluctance to change up in a particular gear. Dont know of a tech2 near York, maybe a trek to The Boy or Mr dtm would be in order?

Its not every time, its only every now and then...

When should auto change gear if your foot it flat to the floor including pressing the kick down switch? Normally it changed just before the limiter.

Hard to say about gear changes, but on the way to work just now, I was following an old granny, and it changed from 1st-2nd at about 2.4k, then again into 3rd at about 2.3k.

Is a video needed?  

i have to say it sounds more like the BABABA sound rather than RAH RAH RAH! lol...
it should change with your foot flat down/kickdown pressed just on the edge of the red line asin take it just so it touches... unless your spinning a wheel and then it'll hit rev limiter!

Ok, Ok... BABABA then! Happy now?  

In my defence, I was half asleep when I typed it out!  

[puffa]

Could this have also been caused by the lead foot on the throttle pedal, as surely if you floor it you end up sitting in the kick down part of the throttle and thus hitting the rev limiter before changing gear,,

not too sure you need to floor it anyway pretty fast off the line without the need to floor it surely its a 3.0lt is it much different to the 3.2lt

[TheBoy]

change the atf as a first...

[VX1]

So basically itsnot changing gears till 6k+ on the rev counter???

Just a thought but is the sports mode button sticking...known possible fault...if you put sports mode on...what kind of revs does the car change at??

If traffic about 2k,  and normal driving about 3k.

Def something not right for an auto, no idea what tho. Id be getting it on a tech2 for a diagnostic.  
When cracking on the car will rev to the limits of the rev range and i wonder if it just goes that little bit further the limiter will cut in. Maybe a setting is a fraction off(a guess) or something more serious maybe.Or a reluctance to change up in a particular gear. Dont know of a tech2 near York, maybe a trek to The Boy or Mr dtm would be in order?

Its not every time, its only every now and then...

When should auto change gear if your foot it flat to the floor including pressing the kick down switch? Normally it changed just before the limiter.

Hard to say about gear changes, but on the way to work just now, I was following an old granny, and it changed from 1st-2nd at about 2.4k, then again into 3rd at about 2.3k.

Is a video needed?  

i have to say it sounds more like the BABABA sound rather than RAH RAH RAH! lol...
it should change with your foot flat down/kickdown pressed just on the edge of the red line asin take it just so it touches... unless your spinning a wheel and then it'll hit rev limiter!

Ok, Ok... BABABA then! Happy now?  

In my defence, I was half asleep when I typed it out!  

Shouldn't it go something like this Must be sung in a famous nursery ryhme:

BABA oil slick trailing down the road,
Yes sir, Yes sir 3 bottles full.
1 for the refill, 1 on standby and 1 for the filter change that JamesV6cdx would like to do!!.