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[Broomies Mate]

IMO -

Nice size engine in a decent size car = Automatic

Small Sporty Hatch = Manual


I dont see the point in having a Manual Gearbox in a fat arsed Omega which is useless at belting around country lanes but awesome at sitting on nice A Roads and Motorways.  Kind of defeats the object of having a comfortable cruiser.

I reiterate though, that's purely my opinion.

My MV6 is far from useless in the lanes, seriously more fun than Jimbobs auto is!

But still, in standard guise, completely useless compared to a 205GTi or Astra VXR.

Both of which would not be suited to an Automatic Transmission.

[Andy B]

Neither is better than the other!   
One is an auto & the other isn't!   

[LJay]

IMO -

Nice size engine in a decent size car = Automatic

Small Sporty Hatch = Manual


I dont see the point in having a Manual Gearbox in a fat arsed Omega which is useless at belting around country lanes but awesome at sitting on nice A Roads and Motorways.  Kind of defeats the object of having a comfortable cruiser.

I reiterate though, that's purely my opinion.

My MV6 is far from useless in the lanes, seriously more fun than Jimbobs auto is!

But still, in standard guise, completely useless compared to a 205GTi or Astra VXR.

Both of which would not be suited to an Automatic Transmission.

Yes, but its an omega and as such is far from useless!
It can't be compared to astra or 205, wheel drive for starters! :-?

[tunnie]

IMO -

Nice size engine in a decent size car = Automatic

Small Sporty Hatch = Manual


I dont see the point in having a Manual Gearbox in a fat arsed Omega which is useless at belting around country lanes but awesome at sitting on nice A Roads and Motorways.  Kind of defeats the object of having a comfortable cruiser.

I reiterate though, that's purely my opinion.

My MV6 is far from useless in the lanes, seriously more fun than Jimbobs auto is!

But still, in standard guise, completely useless compared to a 205GTi or Astra VXR.

Both of which would not be suited to an Automatic Transmission.

A 205 is about 1/2 the weight of an Omega & size!

0-60, Omega would have trouble, but once rolling and 40/50+ a 3.0 Omega would easily keep up

[pedroMV6]

Both our Omegas are autos - but they are daily drivers.
My Carlton is for fun and is Manual.

I would never have considered an auto until the missis got the Elite. Easy and lazy - great around town!!!

[Broomies Mate]

IMO -

Nice size engine in a decent size car = Automatic

Small Sporty Hatch = Manual


I dont see the point in having a Manual Gearbox in a fat arsed Omega which is useless at belting around country lanes but awesome at sitting on nice A Roads and Motorways.  Kind of defeats the object of having a comfortable cruiser.

I reiterate though, that's purely my opinion.

My MV6 is far from useless in the lanes, seriously more fun than Jimbobs auto is!

But still, in standard guise, completely useless compared to a 205GTi or Astra VXR.

Both of which would not be suited to an Automatic Transmission.

Yes, but its an omega and as such is far from useless!
It can't be compared to astra or 205, wheel drive for starters! :-?

LOL.  So you completely understand my point, yet argue against it anyway?  Kudos.

Simple fact:  The Omega was not built to to be thrashed around twisty B roads.  From that point, it is completely useless at doing it, either in Manual or Automatic.  As owners of Omega's, we understand that and accept that.... if we wanted to do that, we'd step into another vehicle better suited.

I used small hatchback cars as an example to back-up my initial statement of

Nice size engine in a decent size car = Automatic

Small Sporty Hatch = Manual

As said, apart from the fact above, everything else is purely opinion...... but, a well justified opinion I believe.

[tunnie]

IMO -

Nice size engine in a decent size car = Automatic

Small Sporty Hatch = Manual


I dont see the point in having a Manual Gearbox in a fat arsed Omega which is useless at belting around country lanes but awesome at sitting on nice A Roads and Motorways.  Kind of defeats the object of having a comfortable cruiser.

I reiterate though, that's purely my opinion.

My MV6 is far from useless in the lanes, seriously more fun than Jimbobs auto is!

But still, in standard guise, completely useless compared to a 205GTi or Astra VXR.

Both of which would not be suited to an Automatic Transmission.

Yes, but its an omega and as such is far from useless!
It can't be compared to astra or 205, wheel drive for starters! :-?

LOL.  So you completely understand my point, yet argue against it anyway?  Kudos.

Simple fact:  The Omega was not built to to be thrashed around twisty B roads.  From that point, it is completely useless at doing it, either in Manual or Automatic.  As owners of Omega's, we understand that and accept that.... if we wanted to do that, we'd step into another vehicle better suited.

I used small hatchback cars as an example to back-up my initial statement of

Nice size engine in a decent size car = Automatic

Small Sporty Hatch = Manual

As said, apart from the fact above, everything else is purely opinion...... but, a well justified opinion I believe.

With wallo-O-matic Elite suspension, maybe. But with MV6 suspension, no.

[LJay]

IMO -

Nice size engine in a decent size car = Automatic

Small Sporty Hatch = Manual


I dont see the point in having a Manual Gearbox in a fat arsed Omega which is useless at belting around country lanes but awesome at sitting on nice A Roads and Motorways.  Kind of defeats the object of having a comfortable cruiser.

I reiterate though, that's purely my opinion.

My MV6 is far from useless in the lanes, seriously more fun than Jimbobs auto is!

But still, in standard guise, completely useless compared to a 205GTi or Astra VXR.

Both of which would not be suited to an Automatic Transmission.

Yes, but its an omega and as such is far from useless!
It can't be compared to astra or 205, wheel drive for starters! :-?

LOL.  So you completely understand my point, yet argue against it anyway?  Kudos.

Simple fact:  The Omega was not built to to be thrashed around twisty B roads.  From that point, it is completely useless at doing it, either in Manual or Automatic.  As owners of Omega's, we understand that and accept that.... if we wanted to do that, we'd step into another vehicle better suited.

I used small hatchback cars as an example to back-up my initial statement of

Nice size engine in a decent size car = Automatic

Small Sporty Hatch = Manual

As said, apart from the fact above, everything else is purely opinion...... but, a well justified opinion I believe.

FFS You're comparing the incomparable!
Drive a 3 litre, chipped MV6 then come back to me, at the mo you're waffling!

[Andy B]

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LOL.  So you completely understand my point, yet argue against it anyway?  Kudos.
 ........
As said, apart from the fact above, everything else is purely opinion...... but, a well justified opinion I believe.

Save your breathe Broomie. You'll never convince a manual driver who want to 'be in control' etc etc that any car is capable of having 2 pedals ..... as Entwood say ..... one for each foot!     

[Broomies Mate]

Mine has full uprated Bilstein Socks and Springs. 

Trust me, it is still useless. 

Just too heavy.

[tunnie]

Mine has full uprated Bilstein Socks and Springs. 

Trust me, it is still useless. 

Just too heavy.

Ever thought the problem is between the steering wheel and seat? 

[LJay]

.....
LOL.  So you completely understand my point, yet argue against it anyway?  Kudos.
 ........
As said, apart from the fact above, everything else is purely opinion...... but, a well justified opinion I believe.

Save your breathe Broomie. You'll never convince a manual driver who want to 'be in control' etc etc that any car is capable of having 2 pedals ..... as Entwood say ..... one for each foot!     

I drive both and wouldn't walk away from either, what I do disagree with is the useless in lanes statement!

[Broomies Mate]

IMO -

Nice size engine in a decent size car = Automatic

Small Sporty Hatch = Manual


I dont see the point in having a Manual Gearbox in a fat arsed Omega which is useless at belting around country lanes but awesome at sitting on nice A Roads and Motorways.  Kind of defeats the object of having a comfortable cruiser.

I reiterate though, that's purely my opinion.

My MV6 is far from useless in the lanes, seriously more fun than Jimbobs auto is!

But still, in standard guise, completely useless compared to a 205GTi or Astra VXR.

Both of which would not be suited to an Automatic Transmission.

Yes, but its an omega and as such is far from useless!
It can't be compared to astra or 205, wheel drive for starters! :-?

LOL.  So you completely understand my point, yet argue against it anyway?  Kudos.

Simple fact:  The Omega was not built to to be thrashed around twisty B roads.  From that point, it is completely useless at doing it, either in Manual or Automatic.  As owners of Omega's, we understand that and accept that.... if we wanted to do that, we'd step into another vehicle better suited.

I used small hatchback cars as an example to back-up my initial statement of

Nice size engine in a decent size car = Automatic

Small Sporty Hatch = Manual

As said, apart from the fact above, everything else is purely opinion...... but, a well justified opinion I believe.

FFS You're comparing the incomparable!
Drive a 3 litre, chipped MV6 then come back to me, at the mo you're waffling!

Nothing is incomparable.

Plus, as stated, I have uprated Suspension on mine.  Yes, better than std Elite, but still not good.



I just know that my 2.0 8v Cavalier with uprated Suspension (still a really bad car around the really twisty bits) will annihilate a 3.0 V6 Omega, with MV6 suspension or not.  On a big open A road, it stands no chance.

Horses for courses.

This has stepped away from the OP question (one which has been done to death).

I've said my piece.  I wont go any further.

[LJay]

Mine has full uprated Bilstein Socks and Springs. 

Trust me, it is still useless. 

Just too heavy.

Ever thought the problem is between the steering wheel and seat? 

That'll be it! The loose nut behind the steering wheel!!!

[LJay]

IMO -

Nice size engine in a decent size car = Automatic

Small Sporty Hatch = Manual


I dont see the point in having a Manual Gearbox in a fat arsed Omega which is useless at belting around country lanes but awesome at sitting on nice A Roads and Motorways.  Kind of defeats the object of having a comfortable cruiser.

I reiterate though, that's purely my opinion.

My MV6 is far from useless in the lanes, seriously more fun than Jimbobs auto is!

But still, in standard guise, completely useless compared to a 205GTi or Astra VXR.

Both of which would not be suited to an Automatic Transmission.

Yes, but its an omega and as such is far from useless!
It can't be compared to astra or 205, wheel drive for starters! :-?

LOL.  So you completely understand my point, yet argue against it anyway?  Kudos.

Simple fact:  The Omega was not built to to be thrashed around twisty B roads.  From that point, it is completely useless at doing it, either in Manual or Automatic.  As owners of Omega's, we understand that and accept that.... if we wanted to do that, we'd step into another vehicle better suited.

I used small hatchback cars as an example to back-up my initial statement of

Nice size engine in a decent size car = Automatic

Small Sporty Hatch = Manual

As said, apart from the fact above, everything else is purely opinion...... but, a well justified opinion I believe.

FFS You're comparing the incomparable!
Drive a 3 litre, chipped MV6 then come back to me, at the mo you're waffling!

Nothing is incomparable.

Plus, as stated, I have uprated Suspension on mine.  Yes, better than std Elite, but still not good.



I just know that my 2.0 8v Cavalier with uprated Suspension (still a really bad car around the really twisty bits) will annihilate a 3.0 V6 Omega, with MV6 suspension or not.  On a big open A road, it stands no chance.

Horses for courses.

This has stepped away from the OP question (one which has been done to death).

I've said my piece.  I wont go any further.

'dangle berries', excuse my french!!