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[Albatross]

Sorry if this has been asked before; it seems such an obvous one I'd be surprised if it hadn't, but I can't find any sign.

I've just (today) bought an Elite 3.2 (2001 Y plate) which has the amber top-half screen SAT NAV system and all seems to work just fine. The disc is abit out of date and I'll have to work out how to register for new a disc I suppose.

Is it possible to upgrade it from teh amber half screen jobby to the colour SAT NAV system and is this a big job? What needs to be done if this is possible?

I have a TrafficMaster (Tm) button on the right hand side of the dash, if I press it twice it tells me I need to re-register it. Does this inegrate with the SATNAV so that the route is updated around bad traffic jams automatically?

I've never had either SAT NAV or Tm before so I'm sorry if these are really stupid questions.

[VXL V6]

Upgrade to a colour screen is easy enough to do, you just need a screen and someone with a Tech II device to configure it (So don't go to Vauxhall, speak to either 'The Boy' or 'Marks DTM')

The only problem is in locating an 'unpaired' screen. Unless the screen has been unpaired from the head unit it is worthless. This unpairing can only be done while both the original head uniit and screen are in the vehicle. If you want to buy a new screen from a dealers you are looking at more than £1000.

Traffic Master is simply local travel (In the direction of travel once you have passed two blue TM cameras) information. The audio is routed through your head unit, it does not interface with the Sat Nav although there were plans to do this a few years ago.

[Albatross]

Thanks for that.

£1000 ain't going to happen!

I'll spend that on other stuff long before a colour screen. So this unpairing thing is not an easy process I take it?

What is the "head unit"? Is it an unreasonable logic to think "OK I'll look into screen and head unit"? What's involved there or is it easier to try to find an "unpaired" screen?

BTW Who is "The Boy"?

[VXL V6]

Thanks for that.

£1000 ain't going to happen!

I'll spend that on other stuff long before a colour screen. So this unpairing thing is not an easy process I take it?

What is the "head unit"? Is it an unreasonable logic to think "OK I'll look into screen and head unit"? What's involved there or is it easier to try to find an "unpaired" screen?

BTW Who is "The Boy"?

Unpairing the screen from the head unit isn't difficult as long as you have access to a Tech II and someone who knows how to use it (hence why I recommend you don't use a Vauxhall dealer), most people don't understand this when stripping a car or buying a second hand unit and end up with unuseable kit.

Head unit is your radio/cd/sat nav unit (probably a Siemens 2013 in your car).

The Boy and Marks DTM Calibra are admins on this site, both have Tech II units and know how to use them!

[TheBoy]

Thanks for that.

£1000 ain't going to happen!

I'll spend that on other stuff long before a colour screen. So this unpairing thing is not an easy process I take it?

What is the "head unit"? Is it an unreasonable logic to think "OK I'll look into screen and head unit"? What's involved there or is it easier to try to find an "unpaired" screen?

BTW Who is "The Boy"?

Me

The GID needs to be unpaired from your existing head unit.  Your carpass is needed for this.

The CID (in delivery mode!) is then paired to your head unit, again, carpass needed.  RGB cable also needed.

If the CID is not in delivery mode, its as much use as a brick.

[Albatross]

Thanks for that.

£1000 ain't going to happen!

I'll spend that on other stuff long before a colour screen. So this unpairing thing is not an easy process I take it?

What is the "head unit"? Is it an unreasonable logic to think "OK I'll look into screen and head unit"? What's involved there or is it easier to try to find an "unpaired" screen?

BTW Who is "The Boy"?

Me

The GID needs to be unpaired from your existing head unit.  Your carpass is needed for this.

The CID (in delivery mode!) is then paired to your head unit, again, carpass needed.  RGB cable also needed.

If the CID is not in delivery mode, its as much use as a brick.

All sounds good, I think mine's the Siemens head unit with Bose sound system ont eh later Elite 3.2.

So where would I start to look for a CID in delivery mode?

What's the "carpass"?

Where do I get the RGB lead, I suppose you'd get that from teh source of the CID?

What's a typical price?

If I pay someone to help me fit this; i.e. "The Boy" or another willing helper what's the going rate?

If you wanted to PM me on this aspect then please do or write to nathanmoulds(AT)yahoo(DOT)com

Thanks, I really appreciate the advice so far. I'm brand new here and to my Omega so I'm a bit clueless at present. I'm no numpty and will get there quickly if given guidance.  

[VXL V6]

Best place for CID and RGB Cable is from German eBay. www.ebay.de

[TheBoy]

Thanks for that.

£1000 ain't going to happen!

I'll spend that on other stuff long before a colour screen. So this unpairing thing is not an easy process I take it?

What is the "head unit"? Is it an unreasonable logic to think "OK I'll look into screen and head unit"? What's involved there or is it easier to try to find an "unpaired" screen?

BTW Who is "The Boy"?

Me

The GID needs to be unpaired from your existing head unit.  Your carpass is needed for this.

The CID (in delivery mode!) is then paired to your head unit, again, carpass needed.  RGB cable also needed.

If the CID is not in delivery mode, its as much use as a brick.

All sounds good, I think mine's the Siemens head unit with Bose sound system ont eh later Elite 3.2.

So where would I start to look for a CID in delivery mode?

What's the "carpass"?

Where do I get the RGB lead, I suppose you'd get that from teh source of the CID?

What's a typical price?

If I pay someone to help me fit this; i.e. "The Boy" or another willing helper what's the going rate?

If you wanted to PM me on this aspect then please do or write to nathanmoulds(AT)yahoo(DOT)com

Thanks, I really appreciate the advice so far. I'm brand new here and to my Omega so I'm a bit clueless at present. I'm no numpty and will get there quickly if given guidance.  

I will happily depair/remove old display and fit/pair yours.  I'd love to do this for free, but I need to make a charge (http://theboy.omegaowners.com) to partially cover the initial and ongoing costs of the Tech2.  I've done a few of these now.  Marks_DTM_Calib has similar facilities and knows his stuff as well.

Carpass is the bit of card that in your case has the mechanical key number and immobiliser PIN on it (older cars also have radio code and cd codes on). If lost, your dealer can get from VIN for £15 to £45 (shop around!).

Is yours a NCDC2011, NCDC2013 or NDCD2015?

[Albatross]

Thanks for that.

£1000 ain't going to happen!

I'll spend that on other stuff long before a colour screen. So this unpairing thing is not an easy process I take it?

What is the "head unit"? Is it an unreasonable logic to think "OK I'll look into screen and head unit"? What's involved there or is it easier to try to find an "unpaired" screen?

BTW Who is "The Boy"?

Me

The GID needs to be unpaired from your existing head unit.  Your carpass is needed for this.

The CID (in delivery mode!) is then paired to your head unit, again, carpass needed.  RGB cable also needed.

If the CID is not in delivery mode, its as much use as a brick.

All sounds good, I think mine's the Siemens head unit with Bose sound system ont eh later Elite 3.2.

So where would I start to look for a CID in delivery mode?

What's the "carpass"?

Where do I get the RGB lead, I suppose you'd get that from teh source of the CID?

What's a typical price?

If I pay someone to help me fit this; i.e. "The Boy" or another willing helper what's the going rate?

If you wanted to PM me on this aspect then please do or write to nathanmoulds(AT)yahoo(DOT)com

Thanks, I really appreciate the advice so far. I'm brand new here and to my Omega so I'm a bit clueless at present. I'm no numpty and will get there quickly if given guidance.  

I will happily depair/remove old display and fit/pair yours.  I'd love to do this for free, but I need to make a charge (http://theboy.omegaowners.com) to partially cover the initial and ongoing costs of the Tech2.  I've done a few of these now.  Marks_DTM_Calib has similar facilities and knows his stuff as well.

Carpass is the bit of card that in your case has the mechanical key number and immobiliser PIN on it (older cars also have radio code and cd codes on). If lost, your dealer can get from VIN for £15 to £45 (shop around!).

Is yours a NCDC2011, NCDC2013 or NDCD2015?

Sounds like a good deal. I've managed to find EdwardMickey and have dropped him a PM and e-mail, so i'll let you know by PM where we're going on this.

BTW, I called 'Fred' my mechanic on the cambelt discussion we had and he tells me that he bought a cam locking kit for the V6 Omega last year and has done a good 10 or so Omega's with it. He is a good friend so I trust him to get it right because he knows I'll give him a hard time if he doesn't. Seriously though, he always likes to a top job and is proud of every car that he ever gives me back. I still hope to see/meet you in Telford and will make my decision on this after coming there though as you suggested.

[TheBoy]

BTW, I called 'Fred' my mechanic on the cambelt discussion we had and he tells me that he bought a cam locking kit for the V6 Omega last year and has done a good 10 or so Omega's with it. He is a good friend so I trust him to get it right because he knows I'll give him a hard time if he doesn't. Seriously though, he always likes to a top job and is proud of every car that he ever gives me back. I still hope to see/meet you in Telford and will make my decision on this after coming there though as you suggested.

The 3.2 is a little more fiddly than standard V6 due to bottom tensioner being non adjustable, so ask him if has done one of these.  Sounds like he knows what he's doing.

Also, as discussed, consider getting one of our v6 cambelt DVDs (its for a 2.5/3.0, so marginally different when it comes to putting belt on), so you can see what you're up against. PM 'Robin Hood' if you're interested.

[Albatross]

I will happily depair/remove old display and fit/pair yours.  I'd love to do this for free, but I need to make a charge (http://theboy.omegaowners.com) to partially cover the initial and ongoing costs of the Tech2.  I've done a few of these now.

Carpass is the bit of card that in your case has the mechanical key number and immobiliser PIN on it (older cars also have radio code and cd codes on). If lost, your dealer can get from VIN for £15 to £45 (shop around!).

Is yours a NCDC2011, NCDC2013 or NDCD2015?

Sounds like a good deal. I've managed to find EdwardMickey and have dropped him a PM and e-mail, so i'll let you know by PM where we're going on this.

EdwardMickey (Keith) and I have agreed on a price for the CID. Thanks for the lead.

More than happy to pay your going rate. I'll have to get in touch with the seller to make sure he's got, or can get, the carpass.

We are thinking about pestering you to do our respective CID/GID swap outs on the same day at your place as soon after I get the car as possible (I pick it up on the 29th of this month, woo hoo).

Having spoken to Mickey (not being able to see the car right now) we reckon it is a NCDC2013 as it has the single slot for the CD at the top and a 4CD multi-changer below. It has a black front (not silver like a Vectra) and does not have the SIM card holder attachment in the glove box as some of the German Omegas have.

Thanks and look forward to meeting you then or in Telford if I can get there.

If you could peraps you could PM me with a number so I and Keith can get in touch with you to arrange a good time.

[TheBoy]

I will happily depair/remove old display and fit/pair yours.  I'd love to do this for free, but I need to make a charge (http://theboy.omegaowners.com) to partially cover the initial and ongoing costs of the Tech2.  I've done a few of these now.

Carpass is the bit of card that in your case has the mechanical key number and immobiliser PIN on it (older cars also have radio code and cd codes on). If lost, your dealer can get from VIN for £15 to £45 (shop around!).

Is yours a NCDC2011, NCDC2013 or NDCD2015?

Sounds like a good deal. I've managed to find EdwardMickey and have dropped him a PM and e-mail, so i'll let you know by PM where we're going on this.

EdwardMickey (Keith) and I have agreed on a price for the CID. Thanks for the lead.

More than happy to pay your going rate. I'll have to get in touch with the seller to make sure he's got, or can get, the carpass.

We are thinking about pestering you to do our respective CID/GID swap outs on the same day at your place as soon after I get the car as possible (I pick it up on the 29th of this month, woo hoo).

Having spoken to Mickey (not being able to see the car right now) we reckon it is a NCDC2013 as it has the single slot for the CD at the top and a 4CD multi-changer below. It has a black front (not silver like a Vectra) and does not have the SIM card holder attachment in the glove box as some of the German Omegas have.

Thanks and look forward to meeting you then or in Telford if I can get there.

If you could peraps you could PM me with a number so I and Keith can get in touch with you to arrange a good time.

Excellent news

Makes sense to do on same day.

[edwardmickey]

I will happily depair/remove old display and fit/pair yours.  I'd love to do this for free, but I need to make a charge (http://theboy.omegaowners.com) to partially cover the initial and ongoing costs of the Tech2.  I've done a few of these now.

Carpass is the bit of card that in your case has the mechanical key number and immobiliser PIN on it (older cars also have radio code and cd codes on). If lost, your dealer can get from VIN for £15 to £45 (shop around!).

Is yours a NCDC2011, NCDC2013 or NDCD2015?

Sounds like a good deal. I've managed to find EdwardMickey and have dropped him a PM and e-mail, so i'll let you know by PM where we're going on this.

EdwardMickey (Keith) and I have agreed on a price for the CID. Thanks for the lead.

More than happy to pay your going rate. I'll have to get in touch with the seller to make sure he's got, or can get, the carpass.

We are thinking about pestering you to do our respective CID/GID swap outs on the same day at your place as soon after I get the car as possible (I pick it up on the 29th of this month, woo hoo).

Having spoken to Mickey (not being able to see the car right now) we reckon it is a NCDC2013 as it has the single slot for the CD at the top and a 4CD multi-changer below. It has a black front (not silver like a Vectra) and does not have the SIM card holder attachment in the glove box as some of the German Omegas have.

Thanks and look forward to meeting you then or in Telford if I can get there.

If you could peraps you could PM me with a number so I and Keith can get in touch with you to arrange a good time.

Excellent news

Makes sense to do on same day.

Only problem is that I'm keen to get it removed soonest so that I can sell the car soonest!  Mileage is on 98960 and don't want it to creep over the 100k mark (no different to selling a product for 99p as opposed to £1).

I'll pm you jamie with my available dates if that's no too cheeky  

May have some news on a forthcoming auction for a non-white MV6 manual on a 52 plate soon too  

[edwardmickey]

Don't worry Mr Albatros, I'd be there for your installation so that you know it's working (and who to throttle if it don't)  

[Albatross]

Makes sense to do on same day.

Only problem is that I'm keen to get it removed soonest so that I can sell the car soonest!

Sorry i can't provide my car until the 29th at the earliest as that is the day I'm picking it up. i'll have the money for the CID by then too.

[Albatross]

I will happily depair/remove old display and fit/pair yours.  I'd love to do this for free, but I need to make a charge (http://theboy.omegaowners.com) to partially cover the initial and ongoing costs of the Tech2.  I've done a few of these now.

Carpass is the bit of card that in your case has the mechanical key number and immobiliser PIN on it (older cars also have radio code and cd codes on). If lost, your dealer can get from VIN for £15 to £45 (shop around!).

Is yours a NCDC2011, NCDC2013 or NDCD2015?

Sounds like a good deal. I've managed to find EdwardMickey and have dropped him a PM and e-mail, so i'll let you know by PM where we're going on this.

EdwardMickey (Keith) and I have agreed on a price for the CID. Thanks for the lead.

More than happy to pay your going rate. I'll have to get in touch with the seller to make sure he's got, or can get, the carpass.

We are thinking about pestering you to do our respective CID/GID swap outs on the same day at your place as soon after I get the car as possible (I pick it up on the 29th of this month, woo hoo).

Having spoken to Mickey (not being able to see the car right now) we reckon it is a NCDC2013 as it has the single slot for the CD at the top and a 4CD multi-changer below. It has a black front (not silver like a Vectra) and does not have the SIM card holder attachment in the glove box as some of the German Omegas have.

Thanks and look forward to meeting you then or in Telford if I can get there.

If you could peraps you could PM me with a number so I and Keith can get in touch with you to arrange a good time.

Excellent news

Makes sense to do on same day.

Do you reckon we could aim at doing this on the weekend of the 1st or 2nd of March?

I also have read on here that there are a number of other "upgrades" which can be achieved with a Tech II, such as the Auto Gearbox software and stuff. Would it be possible to bring everything software-wise up to date at the same time?

[TheBoy]

Do you reckon we could aim at doing this on the weekend of the 1st or 2nd of March?

I also have read on here that there are a number of other "upgrades" which can be achieved with a Tech II, such as the Auto Gearbox software and stuff. Would it be possible to bring everything software-wise up to date at the same time?

Won't know until a bit nearer the time.

Only worthwhile upgrades are auto gearbox update and climate control update.

[Albatross]

Do you reckon we could aim at doing this on the weekend of the 1st or 2nd of March?

I also have read on here that there are a number of other "upgrades" which can be achieved with a Tech II, such as the Auto Gearbox software and stuff. Would it be possible to bring everything software-wise up to date at the same time?

Won't know until a bit nearer the time.

Only worthwhile upgrades are auto gearbox update and climate control update.

OK thanks, those were the two upgrades I'd read about.

I'll drop you line toward the end of the month then.

[dpanic88]

I'm hoping to get a siemens 2013 and a CID both from different donor cars both in delivery mode - is it possible to link these together ?

is a carpass required if so - my current cars? or the headunits donour car?

sorry - looked about the site, having trouble locating the answer

[edwardmickey]

The donor units need to be 'unpaired' and 'decoded' from the relevant screen or head unit using a Tech 2 WHILE STILL IN THE ORIGINAL CAR.  For each car, you will need its car pass in order to place them into delivery mode.

Once they've been placed into delivery mode (EACH), then the two independent units can be married (paired) up in your car - for which you'll need your car pass.

Any single omission to any one of these things, it won't work!

TheBoy will confirm this shortly.......

[TheBoy]

Pretty much as Edwardmickey says....

[dpanic88]

I would  expect  hope that the unit in 'Delivery mode' sold  - would be ready to be paired

Time will tell - If it get the rest of the bits ( RGB cable ), and I get the correct response from the display.

The local vxhall dealer does not want to know about the tech2

[dpanic88]

many thanks - filled all the gaps

[Andy B]

......
The local vxhall dealer does not want to know about the tech2

More like  .... The local vxhall dealer does not want to know about the tech2

[edwardmickey]

I would  expect  hope that the unit in 'Delivery mode' sold  - would be ready to be paired

Time will tell - If it get the rest of the bits ( RGB cable ), and I get the correct response from the display.

The local vxhall dealer does not want to know about the tech2

You'll be able to tell once fitted even before Tech2 is plugged in.

If display flashes, "Display Safe" then it's in delivery mode.  If it remains on 'display safe' - it's not in delivery mode.

Same goes with the head unit...

[TheBoy]

I would  expect  hope that the unit in 'Delivery mode' sold  - would be ready to be paired

Time will tell - If it get the rest of the bits ( RGB cable ), and I get the correct response from the display.

The local vxhall dealer does not want to know about the tech2

I'm in Brackley, M_DTM is in Nottingham - we can both do it. See http://theboy.omegaowners.com

[dpanic88]

many thanks to all, you know your stuff.

I'll yet you know how it goes.

[NickA]

If it's got a GID from the factory it'll have the RGB cable taped out of the way, at least the 3.2 I stripped that had a GID had it behind the air vent

[NickA]

The disc is abit out of date and I'll have to work out how to register for new a disc I suppose.

Search Ebay.de. You can buy UK 2007/8 CD's quite cheaply. Like this one : http://tinyurl.com/2lbyox

I have a TrafficMaster (Tm) button on the right hand side of the dash, if I press it twice it tells me I need to re-register it. Does this inegrate with the SATNAV so that the route is updated around bad traffic jams automatically?

That's TMC. Doesn't work in the UK due to licencing issues but works perfectly in France if you get a French Navteq CD. Gives you text warnings/messages on the screen and marks holdup, roadwords etc on the map. The Nav system even offers to route you around the jams.

[TheBoy]

The disc is abit out of date and I'll have to work out how to register for new a disc I suppose.

Search Ebay.de. You can buy UK 2007/8 CD's quite cheaply. Like this one : http://tinyurl.com/2lbyox

I have a TrafficMaster (Tm) button on the right hand side of the dash, if I press it twice it tells me I need to re-register it. Does this inegrate with the SATNAV so that the route is updated around bad traffic jams automatically?

That's TMC. Doesn't work in the UK due to licencing issues but works perfectly in France if you get a French Navteq CD. Gives you text warnings/messages on the screen and marks holdup, roadwords etc on the map. The Nav system even offers to route you around the jams.

Not quite. Its Traffic Master Oracle, and completely independent to the satnav functions. And it does work in the UK.

TMC is different, and is transmitted by one of the national independents (Classic FM?)

[NickA]

Sorry not a very clear post what I meant was the bit that interacts with the Satnav is called TMC and it doesn't work in the UK even though the unit detects it's receiving a chanel transmitting TMC info e.g. Classic FM

[BigCat]

Sorry not a very clear post what I meant was the bit that interacts with the Satnav is called TMC and it doesn't work in the UK even though the unit detects it's receiving a chanel transmitting TMC info e.g. Classic FM

Also works in Italy, BTW.

[Albatross]

I will happily depair/remove old display and fit/pair yours.  I'd love to do this for free, but I need to make a charge (http://theboy.omegaowners.com) to partially cover the initial and ongoing costs of the Tech2.  I've done a few of these now.  Marks_DTM_Calib has similar facilities and knows his stuff as well.

Carpass is the bit of card that in your case has the mechanical key number and immobiliser PIN on it (older cars also have radio code and cd codes on). If lost, your dealer can get from VIN for £15 to £45 (shop around!).

Is yours a NCDC2011, NCDC2013 or NDCD2015?

Hi there TB.

All looking good for having the car and CID (in pairing mode from EdwardMickey) by this weekend.

More than happy to re-imburse you.

When works for you?

Thanks

N