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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #15 on: 14 July 2022, 00:15:30 »

I used one when I lived in Vietnam a few years ago as websites like Facebook and some western news media sites were banned by the Vietnamese government.  :)
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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #16 on: 14 July 2022, 06:46:10 »

One wonders why anyone, apart from the scammers, would use VPN’s.  Is there a legit reason why they should? :(

I use one when abroad. It allows me to watch BBC iPlayer, which is blocked if you try and access it from a foreign IP. And yes, I do have a TV license.
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The options are download Netflix etc to go, or use a VPN.  ::)
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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #17 on: 14 July 2022, 07:28:28 »

I would have thought so. Anyway, I emailed the info about VPN etc. and got this reply. " Cleared cache, disconnected VPN and still get the same message. And login button not working. "
So he's moved from vpn provider cdn77 to vpn provider m247.  Who are also banned.  To be honest, you will be hard pressed not to find a vpn provider who isn't banned, as the automated tools that the spammers use get regular updates with new vpn providers...

Ah yes, as I understand it VPN’s are being used by scammers to show they are living in say the USA, whilst actually being based in somewhere like Nigeria. In the case of dating web sites, they pretend to be someone like a senior USA military man, pursue a poor woman to “lend” them money in the thousands of pounds, but really are a call centre barstard in Nigeria working in a scamming syndicate.

One wonders why anyone, apart from the scammers, would use VPN’s.  Is there a legit reason why they should? :(
Originally, VPN - Virtual Private Network - allows you to create a "private" network over a larger public network.  So, for example, a company with 2 branches could use a VPN to link their 2 offices' internal networks via the Internet without paying for an expensive leased line.  Also, it allowed remote employees to connect to distant remote networks, something many of us have only just started doing since the pandemic.

However, a later development was an Internet to Internet VPN, designed to hide your real IP and mask it with something else. These should be used with care, and you have to implicitly trust the VPN company, not only ethically, but also technically.  For example, a popular one, NordVPN, famously hit the headlines a few years back as they lacked the competence to run servers and left all their baseboard management controllers Internet accessible with default credentials (which means anyone could see and do anything running through those servers).  There are far better and far more secure ways of trying to achieve this kind of IP masking, such as Onion Routing (aka, Dark Web).  Generally, this type of VPN isn't needed, and is a case of marketing by scaring people into it.

There are use cases, such as that described above, where you need to "change" your IP for geolocation purposes, and VPNs fit the bill for that, better than Onion Routing because the later can have an indeterministic endpoint.

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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #18 on: 14 July 2022, 11:34:36 »

I would have thought so. Anyway, I emailed the info about VPN etc. and got this reply. " Cleared cache, disconnected VPN and still get the same message. And login button not working. "
So he's moved from vpn provider cdn77 to vpn provider m247.  Who are also banned.  To be honest, you will be hard pressed not to find a vpn provider who isn't banned, as the automated tools that the spammers use get regular updates with new vpn providers...

Ah yes, as I understand it VPN’s are being used by scammers to show they are living in say the USA, whilst actually being based in somewhere like Nigeria. In the case of dating web sites, they pretend to be someone like a senior USA military man, pursue a poor woman to “lend” them money in the thousands of pounds, but really are a call centre barstard in Nigeria working in a scamming syndicate.

One wonders why anyone, apart from the scammers, would use VPN’s.  Is there a legit reason why they should? :(
Originally, VPN - Virtual Private Network - allows you to create a "private" network over a larger public network.  So, for example, a company with 2 branches could use a VPN to link their 2 offices' internal networks via the Internet without paying for an expensive leased line.  Also, it allowed remote employees to connect to distant remote networks, something many of us have only just started doing since the pandemic.

However, a later development was an Internet to Internet VPN, designed to hide your real IP and mask it with something else. These should be used with care, and you have to implicitly trust the VPN company, not only ethically, but also technically.  For example, a popular one, NordVPN, famously hit the headlines a few years back as they lacked the competence to run servers and left all their baseboard management controllers Internet accessible with default credentials (which means anyone could see and do anything running through those servers).  There are far better and far more secure ways of trying to achieve this kind of IP masking, such as Onion Routing (aka, Dark Web).  Generally, this type of VPN isn't needed, and is a case of marketing by scaring people into it.

There are use cases, such as that described above, where you need to "change" your IP for geolocation purposes, and VPNs fit the bill for that, better than Onion Routing because the later can have an indeterministic endpoint.

Thanks TB, LC0112G, DG and Sir Tigger, your explanations have helped me understand why people use VPN :y :y
Just a pity that such a useful IT tool is being used by corrupt indviduals. >:(
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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #19 on: 14 July 2022, 12:18:23 »

I can log on with my VPN 8)
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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #20 on: 14 July 2022, 13:16:01 »

Migalot cant even with the VPN switched off.  :-\
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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #21 on: 14 July 2022, 13:23:08 »

Migalot cant even with the VPN switched off.  :-\
He can send you his posts by email, you can post them and he will still be able to see the replies. Easy, and it will give you something to do  :)
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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #22 on: 14 July 2022, 14:29:09 »

Migalot cant even with the VPN switched off.  :-\
As far as I can see, he is *NOT* switching them off, just trying different ones.  Last attempt seemed to be coming from 188.241.157.187 which is Hydra Communications, and also banned.

Can you ask him to try directly from his home broadband or mobile phone, with no VPNs in place?



We are looking at moving away from our current manual ban system, as its onerous and time consuming, to a more automated one which hopefully means we don't blacklist* such vast swathes of the internet.  Whether or not this will improve things in reality is open to debate...
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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #23 on: 15 July 2022, 12:11:37 »

I will try and pass on the info I got. Switched VPN off and checked isp at whatsmyipaddress,com.
81xxx24xxx BT PLC. xxx is for confidentiality. Still says banned.
Then. Edit thats ipv4 not ipv6. Jaime will understand.

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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #24 on: 15 July 2022, 12:36:28 »

I will try and pass on the info I got. Switched VPN off and checked isp at whatsmyipaddress,com.
81xxx24xxx BT PLC. xxx is for confidentiality. Still says banned.
Then. Edit thats ipv4 not ipv6. Jaime will understand.

Its all witchcraft to me.  :D
I'm not seeing any attempts (recently) from 81.x.x.x from Migalot.  Last request for Migalot I saw was from 37.x.x.x at 12:26 today, this IP belonging to UK Dedicated Servers Ltd.

Was that him, or am I somehow tracking the wrong account?
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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #25 on: 15 July 2022, 12:40:58 »

hmmm, can you ask him to try again and PM me the entire IP *and* the exact time, and I'll go through the server logs...

...I'm wondering if the forum software is telling me porkie pies...
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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #26 on: 15 July 2022, 14:22:49 »

He said he was going to try and view this thread as a guest on his phone today, so will wait to hear from him after that.  :y
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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #27 on: 20 July 2022, 10:49:10 »

I'm back!  :y :y
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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #28 on: 20 July 2022, 11:02:41 »

I'm back!  :y :y
Yay, glad you got it sorted :)
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Re: Migalot banned ?
« Reply #29 on: 20 July 2022, 11:07:29 »

I'm back!  :y :y
Yay, glad you got it sorted :)

Thank YOU, Jaime!  :y :y

Sorry to give you so much grief!

I'm working on getting the PC access sorted. Having done a web search, I found a suggestion that changing browser might work. I normally use Firefox, so I tried on IE and bingo!
I will try to figure that one out, but at least I have proper PC keyboard access now!  :)
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