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Ex plodmobile owners . . . are you mad?
« on: 08 December 2006, 14:34:37 »

Watched Roadwars again the other night. Missus commented on how much abuse the plodmobiles get (and that was just from the coppers!). Watched as a scrote kicked the crap out of the inside of an Omega he'd been locked in the back of, Omegas going up curbs, cross country, speed bumps at 70mph and all with the revs screaming. Not to mention the number of bumps they get from "bandit" vehicles

I'm sure some of you own ex plod Omegas, but the question is why? (unless they give 'em away when they've finished their destructive testing!). Aren't they full of holes from aerials, lights etc?
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Re: Ex plodmobile owners . . . are you mad?
« Reply #1 on: 08 December 2006, 14:52:12 »

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Watched Roadwars again the other night. Missus commented on how much abuse the plodmobiles get (and that was just from the coppers!). Watched as a scrote kicked the crap out of the inside of an Omega he'd been locked in the back of, Omegas going up curbs, cross country, speed bumps at 70mph and all with the revs screaming. Not to mention the number of bumps they get from "bandit" vehicles

I'm sure some of you own ex plod Omegas, but the question is why? (unless they give 'em away when they've finished their destructive testing!). Aren't they full of holes from aerials, lights etc?


...maybe it's because they cost next to nothing compared to a non-plod car that has been driven by corporate drivers or used a a taxi in previous life...? The Omega's can take a beating, and parts from breakers are easy and cheap. Plus remember that pold cars are abused but also regularly serviced - many corporate car are just being run until sold without being serviced once - the company does not care what happens to the engine in 50k time...

I drove two such company cars many years ago, one a Granada 2.9 V6 that was never ever serviced, and when it finally was after several years, it turned out that the rear disk break rusted completely and was just about to separate from the hub (!) - needless to say I refused to drive this car again even after the disk was replaced, the second was a Ford Escort that was also serviced only after many years, but the cambelt still snapped a week later and the engine was scrapped (1.8 diesel).





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Re: Ex plodmobile owners . . . are you mad?
« Reply #2 on: 08 December 2006, 15:18:29 »

You're right about company cars and lack of servicing. Ex hire cars are just as bad. I've had a couple that arrived with less than 100 miles on the clock, and kept them until they had 15000 miles on the clock. Funny thing is, if you go to a dealer that's selling ex hire cars, they always have a full stamped service history even though they missed the first two!.

From what I've seen on Roadwars and other similar comedies [smiley=smiley.gif]. There can't be a plod Omega that hasn't had every panel and wheel replaced at sometime. Are you sure about servicing though? I know that the Police lease a lot of their vehicles these days, surely this has the same effect as company cars when it come to servicing.
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« Reply #3 on: 08 December 2006, 15:32:40 »

See pics and comments in ongoing thread here

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« Reply #4 on: 08 December 2006, 15:36:58 »

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You're right about company cars and lack of servicing. Ex hire cars are just as bad. I've had a couple that arrived with less than 100 miles on the clock, and kept them until they had 15000 miles on the clock. Funny thing is, if you go to a dealer that's selling ex hire cars, they always have a full stamped service history even though they missed the first two!.

From what I've seen on Roadwars and other similar comedies [smiley=smiley.gif]. There can't be a plod Omega that hasn't had every panel and wheel replaced at sometime. Are you sure about servicing though? I know that the Police lease a lot of their vehicles these days, surely this has the same effect as company cars when it come to servicing.

Hotel21 will know the answer to this... but I don't think that Police forces can take a chance on patrol cars breaking down due to lack of maintenance, so the cars will probably be serviced 'to manufacturer's specifications'. Which raises another question - is this good enouigh? because we know that the cars really need more frequent servicing then that...

Incidentally, I purchased my first Omega from a Lease-Hire whathaveyou, it was 10 months old, done 20,000 miles, no stamps at all in the book, and the oil the looked like black ink... I had it serviced as soon as I got it, but it was obvious that whoever racked-up 20,000 miles in 10 months had no intention on waisting time or money on servicing. The only good thing about it was that anyone doing this sort of mileage in such short time is bound to have done it on motorways - so she must have had a pretty relaxed life before I got her. Indeed I sold her 3 years later at 60,000 after the tensioner failed (and the engine survived - which is another miracle story...) and had no trouble with her whatsoever.





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« Reply #5 on: 08 December 2006, 15:37:48 »

Its an interesting one.

My ex-explod unit was pretty good, it had signs of a single front left impact but, the rest was pretty straight.

No obvious signs of aerials etc and a few holes in the dash, easily sorted with parts from breakers.

The big plus point is the servicing, mine had had a full set of shocks, brake pads and brake disc's shortly before I got it (just over 80K miles) and the engine was spotless inside (very regularly serviced)

Also, 400 quid for a 80K mile late 1998 estate 3.0V6 Auto with the legendary LSD (I am beginning to think that they were only fitted to plod cars) is a good price....

Would I have another, no, probably not, there arnt enough gadgets on them, but, it was a good car.
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« Reply #6 on: 08 December 2006, 15:58:36 »

OK.  Posted this before and was thereafter on the receiving end of some pelters afterwards.  Please appreciate that not all cars/drivers/police officers are the same.  No offence intended to anyone nor would I appreciate any back.  Thanks.

Buying an ex plod patrol car?  Personally, I wouldn't unless the price was really right.  
 
In my area, cars have a life cycle similar to this...
 
Bought at a heavily discounted price direct from the manufacturer (below 20K for a new model BMW 530D?).  Vehicles are Police spec, generally with an extra battery, uprated alternator, extra wiring throughout the car and top spec brakes/suspension, sometimes lacking AC and other 'frills'.  We generally opt for alloys locally rather than steels 'cos were vain and prefer the look!  Cars are not chipped, tuned or otherwise played with, generally speaking, although I know that a couple of T5's were chipped in a neighbouring force, completely unbeknown to bosses!!  They are a wee bit lighter due to what are called 'delete options' rather than addins and are driven by drivers who have undergone advanced instruction.
 
Car normally used as a senior officers staff car or traffic driving school car for some months to get miles on them before being marked up and put into general service.  But not always.  It is easily possible to have drive a new (less than 20 miles on the clock) patrol car - all marked up and on its first day as a working car - at well into three figure speeds (talking red line in 5th type speed) with the car being blood lined at every gear due to a doner type run.  By that, I mean organ transplant transfer against the clock, not the local donner meat pizza for dinner!!  That particular car turned out to be a flyer throughout its service, for some reason!!
 
They then can be driven compassionately from cold, or jumped into and blatted hard on a B&2 shout, whatevers needed.  They get driven over kerbs, rough ground, the nads revved off them in all gears, on the limiter, thrown around during 'special escort' type duties, suspension heavily loaded 24/7 with the kit in the boot as well as two big guys and their donuts etc....   And they get driven extremely sedately for the majority of the time, well within speed and performance limits.  
 
Serviced regularly with OE parts and Goodyear tyres. (was £25 per corner, irrespective of size, not sure how much now) .  Can be crashed hard and repaired.    We are insured via the local authority and have a horrendous excess.  Its more cost effective to repair than scrap as the car will not be replaced until its due to be in its life cycle - this could be 18 months later and us be a car short on the fleet till then.
 
One 5 series, recently to auction, had taken 3 very hard hits in 7 months (including a 120 mph plus rear wheel blowout, striking the central reserve etc  :o ).  Repaired each time to OE spec but it was never the same.  Didn't handle worth a bu**er afterwards and it was taken off ops and made back to a staff car.  Another went to auction with 200 000 miles, made £2.5k, and still had its original exhaust!  And several pounds of cataloy in various places!!
 
Our mechanics are local authority employees, not main dealers, and get local authority rates.  The guys are good but have a lot of vehicles to deal with and workloads are high so corners can sometimes can and do get trimmed, as do some plastic guards in the enginebay etc to ease access as MarksDTM will attest to.  
 
After an excess of 150K miles in a couple of years, they are decommissioned and auctioned off.  Sometimes after the quickest of resprays to make them the one colour again, sometimes not.

Caveat Emptor??   Yup...  ;)
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Re: Ex plodmobile owners . . . are you mad?
« Reply #7 on: 08 December 2006, 16:58:44 »

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Its an interesting one.

My ex-explod unit was pretty good, it had signs of a single front left impact but, the rest was pretty straight.

No obvious signs of aerials etc and a few holes in the dash, easily sorted with parts from breakers.

The big plus point is the servicing, mine had had a full set of shocks, brake pads and brake disc's shortly before I got it (just over 80K miles) and the engine was spotless inside (very regularly serviced)

Also, 400 quid for a 80K mile late 1998 estate 3.0V6 Auto with the legendary LSD (I am beginning to think that they were only fitted to plod cars) is a good price....

Would I have another, no, probably not, there arnt enough gadgets on them, but, it was a good car.

£400  :o :o

Seriously thinking of a ex-plod for my euro trip!
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« Reply #8 on: 08 December 2006, 18:35:50 »

I'm looking for one now if anyone knows of any for sale?

Im after a facelift mv6, the worse condition the better, no MOT, cambelt due, holes in roof, etc

I don't wanna pay much you see!

If anyone knows of any for sale anywhere or forthcoming at auctions, i'd be grateful if you could give me a shout:

andrewpape@hotmail.com

Cheers,
Andy
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« Reply #9 on: 08 December 2006, 19:03:18 »

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You're right about company cars and lack of servicing. Ex hire cars are just as bad. I've had a couple that arrived with less than 100 miles on the clock, and kept them until they had 15000 miles on the clock. Funny thing is, if you go to a dealer that's selling ex hire cars, they always have a full stamped service history even though they missed the first two!.

I like ex lease cars

Both my Vectra were lease cars....altho high mileage for the age when i bought them....both had full service history....ok vx schedule.....but better than nothing....plus they both came with (and this is usual for lease cars) a full breakdown on what had been changed/done to the cars...that even includes details like bulbs that were replaced etc

For example.....my veccyC had listed its water pump had been changed at 65k miles...so i called the dealer that had done the work and asked if anything had been done at the same time....vx dealer called it up on the screen and said its showing cambelt kit fitted as well....so as i believe the dealer in this instance.....cambelt doesnt have to be done again until 105k  :y

My Omega was company owned....and the service book had been stamped every 10k......ok i doubt if it was serviced every 10k.....possibly an oil/filter change every 10k and serviced at 20k intervals

The vx dealer stamps in all the books were not the supplying dealer.....so suggest they are geniune  :y
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« Reply #10 on: 09 December 2006, 18:59:23 »

Personally i would have another 1 quick cars, maybe low trim but what do you expect for pittance?
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