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Mixed messages
« on: 16 January 2022, 11:42:10 »

I read, this morning, that various security agencies are getting quite worried about groups of anti vaxxers who are communicating via various encrypted online forums. Apparently they are becoming more radical and are mooting direct action, and the government is worried that they may form militia style groups as those in the US. Piers Corbyn was specifically mentioned as he is advocating burning down the offices of MPs who support vaccination. Also mentioned was the group who targeted a vaccination centre and intimidated the people inside and even stole some equipment. Yet nothing has been done about these people. What kind of message does that send out?
NHS staff are receiving letters telling them that, if they're not fully vaccinated by April, they could lose their jobs. In order to be fully vaccinated by April, they must have their first jab in February.
But it is being said in all of the papers that all restrictions, including tests to be taken before entering the UK, are to be dropped on January 26th. So......it's a killer and you must be jabbed, but all restrictions to be dropped. What kind of message does that send out?




As an addendum; I can see why no action has been taken against Corbyn, the last thing we need is a martyr uniting all of the rag tag groups.
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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #1 on: 16 January 2022, 13:49:08 »

They were begging ex NHS staff & Retired Doctors to come back to work to cope with Covid :y

How are they going to cope when they remove them again from thier jobs? :-X
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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #2 on: 16 January 2022, 14:04:11 »

Not just the NHS, I've been approached to return to HMPS as an assessor for new entrants purely  due to the amount of staff that have quit the job for a safer option, not a chance in hell was my reply not even  £100,000 per annum would tempt me.
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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #3 on: 16 January 2022, 14:09:11 »

Is there such a thing as anti-vaxxers though? :-\

There are certainly people who CHOOSE not to get vaccinated but I've not heard of any group trying to stop people who CHOOSE to get vaccinated from being vaccinated. Why would they?

Have the jab if you want it.....don't if you don't.  :)

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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #4 on: 16 January 2022, 14:25:25 »

They were begging ex NHS staff & Retired Doctors to come back to work to cope with Covid :y

How are they going to cope when they remove them again from thier jobs? :-X

My question would be "If these unvaccinated people are so dangerous why are they being allowed to stay in their job until April...surely they should have already been sacked?

My guess is that the government know the unvaccinated put the general public at no more risk than anyone else......that's why they are all happy to party together at number 10. 8)

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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #5 on: 16 January 2022, 14:40:32 »

Is there such a thing as anti-vaxxers though? :-\

There are certainly people who CHOOSE not to get vaccinated but I've not heard of any group trying to stop people who CHOOSE to get vaccinated from being vaccinated. Why would they?

Have the jab if you want it.....don't if you don't.  :)

Just one news report, there are more
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/29/anti-vaxxers-denounce-covid-testing-centre-in-freedom-march-through-milton-keynes

My missus has them outside school every day, harassing the parents and children and handing in letters which the staff have to accept with a smile.

Don't know how you could have missed this really  ::)
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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #6 on: 16 January 2022, 15:18:01 »

Is there such a thing as anti-vaxxers though? :-\

There are certainly people who CHOOSE not to get vaccinated but I've not heard of any group trying to stop people who CHOOSE to get vaccinated from being vaccinated. Why would they?

Have the jab if you want it.....don't if you don't.  :)

Just one news report, there are more
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/29/anti-vaxxers-denounce-covid-testing-centre-in-freedom-march-through-milton-keynes

My missus has them outside school every day, harassing the parents and children and handing in letters which the staff have to accept with a smile.

Don't know how you could have missed this really  ::)

Piers Corbyn is a combination of 50% arsehole and 50% 'nut job'.....he plays to his own little gallery of flat-earthers and conspiracy theorists. Not to be taken seriously. I imagine he has mental health issues.

If people want to support NHS workers who are unvaccinated then that is fine......if they try to intimidate people who choose to be jabbed they need to be included in TB's cull.

The numbers for the Omicron sniffle seem to be dropping now so hopefully we can soon get back to normal and DTB can come out of hiding. ::) 8) ;)
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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #7 on: 16 January 2022, 15:26:34 »


The numbers for the Omicron sniffle seem to be dropping now so hopefully we can soon get back to normal and DTB can come out of hiding. ::) 8) ;)
"Numbers" are based on confirmed cases after a test
no one can get tests ,so numbers are down 

actual cases of people with covid are increasing  ::)

and I'm staying in my bunker for the foreseeable ,at least until the beer supply runs low  :P

 

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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #8 on: 16 January 2022, 16:02:03 »

Is there such a thing as anti-vaxxers though? :-\

There are certainly people who CHOOSE not to get vaccinated but I've not heard of any group trying to stop people who CHOOSE to get vaccinated from being vaccinated. Why would they?

Have the jab if you want it.....don't if you don't.  :)

Just one news report, there are more
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/29/anti-vaxxers-denounce-covid-testing-centre-in-freedom-march-through-milton-keynes

My missus has them outside school every day, harassing the parents and children and handing in letters which the staff have to accept with a smile.

Don't know how you could have missed this really  ::)

I love the comment in that article by the local MP, who said they were “dickheads” ;D ;D ;D

How right is is! :y
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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #9 on: 16 January 2022, 16:02:54 »


The numbers for the Omicron sniffle seem to be dropping now so hopefully we can soon get back to normal and DTB can come out of hiding. ::) 8) ;)
"Numbers" are based on confirmed cases after a test
no one can get tests ,so numbers are down 

actual cases of people with covid are increasing ::)

and I'm staying in my bunker for the foreseeable ,at least until the beer supply runs low  :P
How do you know if you can't test?
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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #10 on: 16 January 2022, 16:10:29 »

I think all we can do now is whatever works for us personally , it's totally pointless arguing the toss over what should or shouldn't be done we're all adults ( most of us ) so get on with our lives best we can.
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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #11 on: 16 January 2022, 16:21:40 »


The numbers for the Omicron sniffle seem to be dropping now so hopefully we can soon get back to normal and DTB can come out of hiding. ::) 8) ;)
"Numbers" are based on confirmed cases after a test
no one can get tests ,so numbers are down 

actual cases of people with covid are increasing ::)

and I'm staying in my bunker for the foreseeable ,at least until the beer supply runs low  :P
How do you know if you can't test?
guestimates  based on  info from ONS ,ZOE etc
rather than basing levels on tests (which are in short supply) and many people don't bother to register the results anyway  ::)
also people have returned to work and school so i imagine another increase in cases
(despite the "peak" of this wave being reported )
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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #12 on: 16 January 2022, 16:40:12 »


The numbers for the Omicron sniffle seem to be dropping now so hopefully we can soon get back to normal and DTB can come out of hiding. ::) 8) ;)
"Numbers" are based on confirmed cases after a test
no one can get tests ,so numbers are down 

actual cases of people with covid are increasing  ::)

and I'm staying in my bunker for the foreseeable ,at least until the beer supply runs low  :P


If you are not going to see the light of day until 2030 make sure you are locked down with a 20 year old blonde Norwegian girl as well as a limitless supply of beer. :y
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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #13 on: 16 January 2022, 19:26:44 »

Sorry DTB, I know it's not what you want to believe, but...

The show(er of shit) is over.

Which is nice 8) and about bloody time  :-X
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Re: Mixed messages
« Reply #14 on: 16 January 2022, 21:17:28 »

Sorry DTB, I know it's not what you want to believe, but...

The show(er of shit) is over.

Which is nice 8) and about bloody time  :-X
We'll see  :-X

Hope you're right  ;D

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